Actually I think that Gould 's playing of this song is not very traditional ,this video contain a very beautiful pure playing, it even melt my heart:) thx 4 posting
An accomplished performance. A bit trite. A bit smug!!! Glenn Gould is the Master of this piece as far as I am concerned; anticipatory and a little bit exciting, which is quite a difficult accomplishment with the innate staidness of this piece. My favourite piece of music. Bach is amazing. Continuosly inspiring.
Awful tinny piano - trying to sound like a harpsichord? - and the echo is distracting. I am a great admirer of Barenboim, but Bach is not his forte. The first notes of Gould's early recording of these Variations are sublimely subtle, reflecting exquisite touch. But, the purists do not want Bach played with 'touch'. I am clearly no purist, then. The harpsichord does not do it for me. I agree with Rossini that the harpsichord sounds like two skeletons fornicating on a tin roof!
Yes Oh Yes !,This creates for me an entirely different, yet eminently acceptable rendition...Calm Peaceful-truly felt, not just played ..& even though not on Instrument intended a wonderful ARTISTE honouring a Genius.(You may also like Chiara's interpretation on Harpsichord.) To me, all truly Gifted & Virtuoso Artist musicians are VALID !!-& simply give us variety. Why blame a Rose because she is not a Lily, or an Oak because it's not an Ash....Just enjoy it all.
Personally i've always prefered Barenboim to Gould, his humming always ruined it for me, however divine is piano mastery was. Although i again prefer Wilhelm Kempff for Beethoven. However i think when one listens to the genius of any of these great maestros then it will only be a matter of personal preference as to whom you think is better.
He plays it unmusically - he always strikes me as a sham pianist. His ornaments are ridiculous and the phrases keep bumping and lumping. Shame on him.
@vandral1234 this is no way an arguementative response but please post a video of yourself doing a better job and i will take your comments about his playing seriously
@parkyjjb I neither need you to take my comments about him seriously, nor, indeed, prove that I can do better. My comments were an opinion on the posted clip - something I believe these spaces are for - so, therefore, my words still stand, That they happen not to be in line with your view does not invalidate them. That you feel 'defensive', is another matter, beyond the scope of discussion here.
Every morning I put a CD in the 'music machine' and hear the Dutch pianoplayer Tjako van Schie starting with the 'Aria' of the complete 'Goldberg Variations'.
It makes the start of my day as a far from lazy pensioner... Tjako van Schie has a well-made website. If you have some time left, look for it in 'Google' and see the greatness of the art of playing these Variations in his almost caressing all keys...
Another idea that needs debunkig is that "all opinions about music are equal - it's just a matter of individual preference." Many of us who post have had a lifetime of intense involvement with music that began in childhood. The knowledge of repertoire
and performance practices this kind of background imparts cannot be duplicated by
some nitwit who thinks classical music is "cool" any more than a janitor who mops
floors in a hospital can pass himself off as a neurosurgeon.
@MISHA1119 your views are completely biased and apparently ignorant of the fact that many people do not live in marble towers, and have not been fed classical music since day 1. music IS about individual preference - i adore classical music and come from a working class background; as such, i was not "involved" with classical music in my childhood, and yet i completley adore classical music of my own accord - i dont pretend to be an expert on the subject, music is there to be loved by everyone
@toolofevil91 Frankly I take great joy in classical music's universal appeal. What I said is that not all opinions are equal. The idea that they are is a very dangerous notion, and symptomatic of the disastrous nonsense that has been going on some time now in the schools and other institutions under the runious reign of political correctness, which out of spite seeks to destroyevery impulse toward excellence, without which great art cannot exist.
@aor92333 LMFAO!.. That's SO to the point! They're ignorants to be honest! :D Music today really is dictated by the masses who generally have little knowledge about music, and even less knowledge about the musical inheritance of the European masters.
@conexant51 You and aor are so right - how could sixty people legitimately dislike this? Youtube has become a hangout for imbeciles devoid of any sensitivity or musical knowledge, hellbent on proving their ignorance to a global audience. It's depressing to read the wild rubbish these idiots post. Barenboim shows a disciplined but wonderfully nuanced freedom here. His radiant tone, exquisite phrasing and vast dynamic range unlock the music's profundity to perfection. 60 dislikes = 60 morons.
When I hear these pieces, I always think of the reason they were originally written and think of this melancholy (sp?) music playing over and over again to help the insomniac mark out the lonely hours of the night until dawn or, hopefully, sleep at last provided some relief.
I am enjoying Baremboim's interpretation of this. He brings out a delicate and tranquil feeling that seems to be missing from other performers of this aria.
What I absolutely love about Barenboim's playing of this is the way he milks everything out of every sublime note. He plays it like a beautiful dance between two lovers. I think he understands the great emotional importance of the dotted notes and the grace notes in this piece, perhaps, as no other musician. In my opinion, the tempo at which he plays this helps bring all that out in a wonderful fullness and expressiveness that I have not heard in Gould's or Schiff's playing of this aria.
Usted no toca el piano con las manos, lo toca con el corazón. Esta aria suena simplemente sublime. ¿Que ha pasado con las variaciones? Is there anyone who has them perhaps?
A damper/sustain device actually was being used in Gottfried Silberman pianos at the time but that is not the point. More to the point (and why Barenboim does use it) is the issue of whether or not to to perform Bach's music .......more or less expressively. I think that Bach would have said , YES!"
Why does the fucking iTunes tag underneath the description say Murray Perahia - Goldberg Variations? It's FUCKING BARENBOIM for Christ's sake, what is wrong with Youtube?
3:00-3:22: Absolutely sublime! Notice the dampers (sustain pedal) on the piano being played in a fluttering manner by the Maestro in order to keep the sound from getting too muddy and lose the sense of the Baroque manner he so perfectly instilled in this masterpiece. This may be the best performance of this work ever recorded (I love Gould, of course, but I think he can be a little too dry with the sustain pedal, though).
Fair fucks to Barenboim, i think this rendition is perfectly controlled and very expressive a lot of the time. The piece is sacred and Gould rocked it but thumbs up to Dan the man too.
@troppofiato I think that Bach is meant to be played without 'emotional' interpretation. That is how it carries its very own integrity for the listener..
Barenboim is great pianists but here... damn, I don't know. Everything seems to be good, but still... there is something I don't like in his way of playing Aria.
Well, stilll... totally agree, it's one of the greatest pieces ever :)
@ThePVGS1 Gosh I'm sorry to criticize. I forget we live in an age of boosterism. Having judgment based on comparison, what will happen next? Independent thinking? I only erred by not suggesting alternatives. That is my fault. Of course, calling one a liar isn't impolite (emoticon deleted). I do hope your reply was in jest. It is either funny or incredibly hypocritical.
@Pre114 It does matter who plays it, but it will always be one of the greatest pieces of music ever composed [no only the aria, but also the whole variations].
@Pre114 I agree completely. Here's how Shostakovich put it: "A great piece of music is beautiful regardless of how it is performed. Any prelude or fugue of Bach can be played at any tempo, with or without rhythmic nuances, and it will still be great music. That's how music should be written, so that no-one, no matter how philistine, can ruin it."
How can Bach be played too "baroquey"? How ignorant is that? Bach is baroque. Ornaments were often not even written in, they were left to the talent of the keyboard player. Many things were not written in, it was assumed that a good performer would extemporise and add ornaments. Barenboim is impeccable.
@brassmonkeyjew dude, are you on youtube bashing barenboim? how idiotic and ignorant is this... (Bach himself would´ve listen to this performance by Daniel and get of his ass and applaud for a good 25 min) so shut up, will you..
@angietihi "Barenboim is impeccable", but somehow I love him better when plays Beethoven..and Bach is reserved for Gould..sorry, not trying to impose sth, just some kind of my personal "profiling" of great(est) pianists..
@MrHicks091 You remind me of the fake Dr who also likes, 80's music, healing crystals, global warming, Bach, and pretending he has a PhD, so he can call himself "Dr" like Dr Who. "He" is also friends with the racist nazi psych randomlaughingman who also loves Bill Hicks like you do. This cannot be a coincidence
Yet just because Bach is from the Baroque period, it does not mean that he shares the common aspects of a "baroque" composer. All the ornaments are written in his manuscript and he criticized performers who improvised in his music. Stop spreading assumptions please.
Barenboim's performance lacked sensitivity in several areas. He needs more discipline; he is consumed by the moving phrases. A mediocre experience, though some may passionately try to prove me wrong.
@NimbleTurtle13 Most Bach scholars disagree with your conclusions, actually, and I would like to see sourcing of the claim that Bach criticized those who improvised ornaments in his music.
@contratromba858 You can research on the internet or discover through your own intuition that these ornaments are inappropriate. As for how "most Bach scholars disagree" with my "conclusions", I would need evidence for that. One musicologist and renowned pianist, Charles Rosen for example, would agree with me.
@angietihi You can also argue over who has the right version of what piece? There were no copy machines back then, everything was hand copied and how do we know they didn't add their interpretation to the copy?
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
It's played far too "Baroquey" for Bach. And far too fast. But that's just my opinion. And i noticed he repeated some sections. The score doesn't say to do this, so this is unnecessary. I wish musicians now a days would show composers respect by playing it correctly (as intended by the composer!)
@brassmonkeyjew Are you serious? This is a little faster than I play it and I SUCK. But I think this performance is stellar. As far as correctly, I think one can play it exactly as it is written and still not feel it. He feels it. And that is what truly matters.
Not sure which score you are playing from but every copy of the Goldberg Variations that I have ever seen has the repeats very clearly marked. (Hint - that's what the 2 dots before the double bar line in bars 16 and 32 means ...)
Barenboim shows considerable respect for and understanding of both the music and the composer.and although I normally prefer to hear this on the harpsichord I think that this is a truly great performance by a great musician.
That may be true, however, it is a complete myth that Gould was ever a great Bach interpreter. Barenboim is guilty of emulating another performer. Gould was guilty of emulating a true performer. Gould's Bach interps. are cleverly contrived phrases that are ostensibly emotional, but they are, in truth, just as contrived as this performance. Moreso, Gould is even guiltier than Barenboim because he is more intelligent and SHOULD know better than to feign true unadulterated talent.
@hyperseauton totally agree.. it's perfect but i feel the lack of something... i sure respect him, i knee down in front of Master Barenboim, i should never look even him in the eyes, but i just feel the lack of something. Forgive me Master.
@hyperseauton What do you mean with "every note is exactly where it should be"? If you mean that he types the notes with a metronome, you are not right, given the obvious rubati. And if you agree that he uses rubati: there are no objective criteria to apply those
@hyperseauton: do you really think it lacks emotion? i perceive it totaly opposite. look at his face....even if not expressing emotions it is full of them......
Well song as used doesn't necessarily imply words ... your advance music diploma should have explained this reality to you! Even the most musically uneducated person understands this fundamental point.
Yes, a Mahler symphony is simply a big song, or song in general usage. So a Mahler 3rd Symphony song is not as good as Beethovens 2nd symphony song. How hard is that to understand?
Very hard to understand actually! Are you really stupid or just pretending? The use of the word song is superfluous, just stop after symphony in your example. That would be clearer. In fact the composer himself is the authority and they did not call their symphonies "symphony song".
I am in a good mood today so I will give you another example. I ride a bicycle which is different from a car, but by your logic you would drive a car-bicycle as you like to mix up two words with different meanings into one. So clear isn't it?!
I was just talking to a friend about which Mahler song he liked best ... and he said the first movement of Mahlers 2nd symphony! We understood each other perfectly ... as does the rest of the country/world.
I'm sorry that you refuse to acknowledge this plain as day fact and continue to call me asshole, dumbfuck, bitch, etc.
You are being very disingenuous! If you really know Mahler then you know he wrote Das Lied von der Erde (the Song of the Earth) between his 8th and 9th symphonies because he had a superstition about the number 9. Now that is the proper use of the of word song as in song cycle but not used for his remaining instrumental symphonies. You only speak for yourself not the rest of the world. I did not use swear words to insult you, but if the suit fits...
Your friend is as confused as you. He could have said Songs of a Wayfarer or the Ruckert Lieder. These are SONGS not SYMPHONIES. The Mahler 2nd Symphony (Resurrection ) has a song called Urlicht as the last movement. The whole symphony is NOT a song as it contains 5 instrumental movements and one song movement. Did you pass first grade?
It's amazing you cannot admit your clear error despite your PhD in music ...
Everyone I know, and I know almost the entire city of Phoenix, says songs when referring to classical music ... so clearly you are very wrong.
I love the music of Mahler very much ... although I think his music was perfected in Schoenberg. There are many Schoenberg songs that I love too like the Phantasy for violin and piano ... great song.
The Gurrelieder is a great SONG cycle, Phantasy for violin and piano an equally great PIECE. Don't you get it by now?
Your tastes are great but you are very pedantic about the use of this one word word to cover all genres. Please dont include the great city of Phoenix in your view, you speak for yourself only.
did you check the dictionary or THINK about my earlier posts at all. PS I do not have a PHD do you?
CroBabe: Thank you so much. It almost sounds easy enough to learn on the piano, but I bet it isn't...nothing that comes from pure genius like this is ever simple.
Beautiful, but Gould does it better. Barenboim plays this like it was written in 1840 instead of 1740.
colourfulwithaU 19 hours ago
Is YouTube just putting commercials in front of everyone's videos now whether you want them to or not? If so, that is LAME!
jjp009 1 month ago
@jjp009 You need AdBlock Plus Chrome extension.
Roman3335 1 week ago
DIVINE!!!
Justme32076 2 months ago
Actually I think that Gould 's playing of this song is not very traditional ,this video contain a very beautiful pure playing, it even melt my heart:) thx 4 posting
sean861024 2 months ago
Actua
sean861024 2 months ago
I love the way he sits at the piano. He owns that thing and he is clearly a master in total control of that keyboard.
jjp009 2 months ago
An accomplished performance. A bit trite. A bit smug!!! Glenn Gould is the Master of this piece as far as I am concerned; anticipatory and a little bit exciting, which is quite a difficult accomplishment with the innate staidness of this piece. My favourite piece of music. Bach is amazing. Continuosly inspiring.
eilee11 3 months ago
yeah gouldberg has a very unique play, he manages to use all the piano capabilities without sacrificing the original design of the piece.
cuagmirag 3 months ago
@ZIotz No, I just prefer Gould.
CaramelMarshmallow 3 months ago
Glenn Gould's version is way better.
whatzhot1 3 months ago
2:50 on, illiterates, which me belong - we c an still listen
fmckramden 3 months ago
The Beauty... at least mine.
leoncapt 4 months ago
I do not like his interpretation.
boomvriend 5 months ago
why is the artist Murray Perahia
OmriIdanJazz 5 months ago
Awful tinny piano - trying to sound like a harpsichord? - and the echo is distracting. I am a great admirer of Barenboim, but Bach is not his forte. The first notes of Gould's early recording of these Variations are sublimely subtle, reflecting exquisite touch. But, the purists do not want Bach played with 'touch'. I am clearly no purist, then. The harpsichord does not do it for me. I agree with Rossini that the harpsichord sounds like two skeletons fornicating on a tin roof!
sharpfg 5 months ago 2
mmmm... too fast
Neofito89 5 months ago
Beautiful! Barenboim is even better at Variation 26, quite delicate. I am sure he is one the best pianists of this time,
I myself also uploaded this Aria at camomile988. Please check.
camomile988 6 months ago
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camomile988 6 months ago
Un chef-d'oeuvre peut être interprété de toutes sortes de manières, il demeure sublime....
StephaneMartineau 6 months ago
As expected of Barenboim, an excellent interpretation. But I prefer him when he's playing Beethoven. :-)
For Goldberg Variations, I still prefer Arrau and Gould, though. Both different, but brilliant in their own right.
MrElicottero 6 months ago
WHY is Justin Timberlake the top video???
haastaboozia 6 months ago
What an amazing piece. Timeless.
jeanclaudevandamme 7 months ago
These pieces really require passion, which is something Barenboim lacks. He almost puts me to sleep. I'm going to stick with Gould.
CaramelMarshmallow 7 months ago
@CaramelMarshmallow Well said
heyaidkwhut 6 months ago
Yes Oh Yes !,This creates for me an entirely different, yet eminently acceptable rendition...Calm Peaceful-truly felt, not just played ..& even though not on Instrument intended a wonderful ARTISTE honouring a Genius.(You may also like Chiara's interpretation on Harpsichord.) To me, all truly Gifted & Virtuoso Artist musicians are VALID !!-& simply give us variety. Why blame a Rose because she is not a Lily, or an Oak because it's not an Ash....Just enjoy it all.
Atmosfferic 7 months ago
@ZIotz because Dr Lecter ate them ; )
atheelogos 7 months ago 3
Ready when you are, Sergeant Pembry...
HerrWarja 7 months ago 2
You can listen to Gould playing Bach and Barenboim playing Beethoven but the converse is not true.
jdbrown371 7 months ago
@ZIotz ,some fanboys or hysterics girls listening HSM or Justin Bieber
EP110692 7 months ago
@ZIotz 126 ears have no people, poor ears.
AristidesLuis 8 months ago 22
hermoso!!
jorgecabrales 8 months ago
Sublime !!! que interpretacion maestro Baremboim !!!
marielagisbert 8 months ago
,,good evening gentleman,,
GambinoKN 8 months ago 2
Personally i've always prefered Barenboim to Gould, his humming always ruined it for me, however divine is piano mastery was. Although i again prefer Wilhelm Kempff for Beethoven. However i think when one listens to the genius of any of these great maestros then it will only be a matter of personal preference as to whom you think is better.
TLSUk 9 months ago
Ready when you are Sergeant Pembry....
mysterypolice 9 months ago 7
I love the sound of this. Js Bach goZ!
Sneaktyp 10 months ago
Baremboim is one of my favorites!!
morresi2011 10 months ago
YES.... but he is not Glenn Gould.
i like it OF COURSE, but Gould has something...
SOUL!
durazzzz 10 months ago
@durazzzz No Barenboim can be compared to Gould in Bach. Mabye, we may speak about it in Beethoven but that's another story.
str3123 10 months ago
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vandral1234 11 months ago
He plays it unmusically - he always strikes me as a sham pianist. His ornaments are ridiculous and the phrases keep bumping and lumping. Shame on him.
vandral1234 11 months ago
@vandral1234 this is no way an arguementative response but please post a video of yourself doing a better job and i will take your comments about his playing seriously
parkyjjb 11 months ago
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@parkyjjb I neither need you to take my comments about him seriously, nor, indeed, prove that I can do better. My comments were an opinion on the posted clip - something I believe these spaces are for - so, therefore, my words still stand, That they happen not to be in line with your view does not invalidate them. That you feel 'defensive', is another matter, beyond the scope of discussion here.
vandral1234 11 months ago
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vandral1234 11 months ago
How can anyone play Bach with such a lack of humanity? Lumps everywhere and no sense of true line. Such a sham as a pianist
vandral1234 11 months ago
We are listening to Bach's prayers to his creator.
hughaanderson 11 months ago
It's so lovely to hear the Aria played at a tempo that one could naturally SING, instead of that ghastly slow, measure-by-the-yardstick Gould.
nohpiano 11 months ago
If music is the 'flower' of feeling, then I have to confess this one felt ... a bit rushed to me... like I had to keep up.
baldassare01 1 year ago
Every morning I put a CD in the 'music machine' and hear the Dutch pianoplayer Tjako van Schie starting with the 'Aria' of the complete 'Goldberg Variations'.
It makes the start of my day as a far from lazy pensioner... Tjako van Schie has a well-made website. If you have some time left, look for it in 'Google' and see the greatness of the art of playing these Variations in his almost caressing all keys...
janosj 1 year ago
Another idea that needs debunkig is that "all opinions about music are equal - it's just a matter of individual preference." Many of us who post have had a lifetime of intense involvement with music that began in childhood. The knowledge of repertoire
and performance practices this kind of background imparts cannot be duplicated by
some nitwit who thinks classical music is "cool" any more than a janitor who mops
floors in a hospital can pass himself off as a neurosurgeon.
MISHA1119 1 year ago
@MISHA1119 your views are completely biased and apparently ignorant of the fact that many people do not live in marble towers, and have not been fed classical music since day 1. music IS about individual preference - i adore classical music and come from a working class background; as such, i was not "involved" with classical music in my childhood, and yet i completley adore classical music of my own accord - i dont pretend to be an expert on the subject, music is there to be loved by everyone
toolofevil91 11 months ago
@toolofevil91 Frankly I take great joy in classical music's universal appeal. What I said is that not all opinions are equal. The idea that they are is a very dangerous notion, and symptomatic of the disastrous nonsense that has been going on some time now in the schools and other institutions under the runious reign of political correctness, which out of spite seeks to destroyevery impulse toward excellence, without which great art cannot exist.
mvolkov11 11 months ago
Magnifique, merci.
luzsorial 1 year ago
ouffffff ça fait oublier de respirer, c'est la beauté en état pur !!!
fillette71200 1 year ago
60 people here are justin bieber fans.
aor92333 1 year ago 3
@aor92333 LMFAO!.. That's SO to the point! They're ignorants to be honest! :D Music today really is dictated by the masses who generally have little knowledge about music, and even less knowledge about the musical inheritance of the European masters.
conexant51 1 year ago
@conexant51 You and aor are so right - how could sixty people legitimately dislike this? Youtube has become a hangout for imbeciles devoid of any sensitivity or musical knowledge, hellbent on proving their ignorance to a global audience. It's depressing to read the wild rubbish these idiots post. Barenboim shows a disciplined but wonderfully nuanced freedom here. His radiant tone, exquisite phrasing and vast dynamic range unlock the music's profundity to perfection. 60 dislikes = 60 morons.
MISHA1119 1 year ago
una belleza escuchar a Bach interpretado por este genio que es Barenboim, que tuve el inmenso placer de escuchar en vivo
elarrancacorazonesar 1 year ago
60 people were depressed with life and sought to share it with others :P
kalarr1389 1 year ago
When I hear these pieces, I always think of the reason they were originally written and think of this melancholy (sp?) music playing over and over again to help the insomniac mark out the lonely hours of the night until dawn or, hopefully, sleep at last provided some relief.
rdemeyere 1 year ago
I am enjoying Baremboim's interpretation of this. He brings out a delicate and tranquil feeling that seems to be missing from other performers of this aria.
ScottHillman1 1 year ago
a dream
musikinstrumente 1 year ago
I like it so much...
venusitaje 1 year ago
loverly!
slizzler1 1 year ago
This is surely one of the most deceptively simple-sounding pieces of music ever written.
WAYSMEANS 1 year ago
I Think the aria is fabulous, This music do to feel a lot of sensations, like love, piace, etc. Elegance, Relax, Do that you go to other age.
I love this Aria, Is my impulsor.
diva0071 1 year ago
What I absolutely love about Barenboim's playing of this is the way he milks everything out of every sublime note. He plays it like a beautiful dance between two lovers. I think he understands the great emotional importance of the dotted notes and the grace notes in this piece, perhaps, as no other musician. In my opinion, the tempo at which he plays this helps bring all that out in a wonderful fullness and expressiveness that I have not heard in Gould's or Schiff's playing of this aria.
LaHautevoix 1 year ago
Miremifasofaso~
bigsotouba 1 year ago
0:19 that step down in the bass sounds like beethoven :D
tarquin161234 1 year ago
How in the world does he play sitting up so straight, so far away from the keys? --ha, just kidding.
pdf1056 1 year ago
Quenta
bigsotouba 1 year ago
Bach is MUSIC. That's it :)
grzymol 1 year ago 3
Querido maestro Baremboim:
Usted no toca el piano con las manos, lo toca con el corazón. Esta aria suena simplemente sublime. ¿Que ha pasado con las variaciones? Is there anyone who has them perhaps?
misterherrdon 1 year ago
Thank you Bach
I'm still trusting in Humanity
hobbes186 1 year ago
Well it is certainly one of the funniest recordings
NonSubmersibleUnits 1 year ago
i dont like slow execution...
jsbach1000 1 year ago
@jsbach1000 Hemlock is slow as well, they reckon.... a well-aimed bullet's pretty fast though...
Blackgeoff3 1 year ago
found: bwv 988 - watch?v=22S6tdMVTns
nitturo 1 year ago
which bwv is this?
nitturo 1 year ago
beautiful! Thanks for posting.
but can someone tell me why it is OK to play Bach with the pedal? This was composed before the piano pedal was invented.
But if Barenboim does it there must be a reason.
nevertheless123 1 year ago
@nevertheless123
Bach sounds much better on the modern instrument, and the pedal makes it sound even better. Not as authentic, but really who cares.
thunder1909 1 year ago 3
@nevertheless123
A damper/sustain device actually was being used in Gottfried Silberman pianos at the time but that is not the point. More to the point (and why Barenboim does use it) is the issue of whether or not to to perform Bach's music .......more or less expressively. I think that Bach would have said , YES!"
Baggs4299 1 year ago
one of the worst interpretations of the Goldberg Variations ... so low in regards of Glenn Gould .. and too many others
Berdjum 1 year ago
A great Man
anisometropie 1 year ago
@alwaysright10000 ew.
ThePVGS1 1 year ago
Why does the fucking iTunes tag underneath the description say Murray Perahia - Goldberg Variations? It's FUCKING BARENBOIM for Christ's sake, what is wrong with Youtube?
JacobRudduck 1 year ago
@JacobRudduck It takes a sample of the music and searches for a match on iTunes.
Absolutely ridiculous!
ataboodream 1 year ago
3:00-3:22: Absolutely sublime! Notice the dampers (sustain pedal) on the piano being played in a fluttering manner by the Maestro in order to keep the sound from getting too muddy and lose the sense of the Baroque manner he so perfectly instilled in this masterpiece. This may be the best performance of this work ever recorded (I love Gould, of course, but I think he can be a little too dry with the sustain pedal, though).
jjp009 1 year ago
Fair fucks to Barenboim, i think this rendition is perfectly controlled and very expressive a lot of the time. The piece is sacred and Gould rocked it but thumbs up to Dan the man too.
xxxxcensoredxxx 1 year ago 3
another good version
xbox2xbox 1 year ago
Thank you.
valeriealmamarie 1 year ago
it's quite beautiful playing - nuanced, balanced, perfectly controlled sound - but it doesn't move me because it feels emotionally detached.
troppofiato 1 year ago
@troppofiato thats the beauty of it.. it dosent really bring you to a specific feeling or emotion.. it makes the mind wander..
Xirus5 1 year ago
@troppofiato I think that Bach is meant to be played without 'emotional' interpretation. That is how it carries its very own integrity for the listener..
MrSimonapdavid 1 year ago
Let's leave this one, to Glenn...
thestringdreams 1 year ago
Barenboim is great pianists but here... damn, I don't know. Everything seems to be good, but still... there is something I don't like in his way of playing Aria.
Well, stilll... totally agree, it's one of the greatest pieces ever :)
ClassicalMusicPL 1 year ago
Bravo!
Kammerz10 1 year ago
Que saudades do Génio Glenn Gould... Volta Glenn...!!!
rogerioabel 1 year ago
he looks rather youthful in this video, and more importantly he is clearly passionate about the music
beethovenbuddy 1 year ago
I know, how can someone dog on Barenboim like that? I'd like to see them play like he does. He plays with elegance and flawlessness.
Durgrmist 1 year ago
@Durgrmist you bet!
trastulo 1 year ago
gran música
leoncioviolin 1 year ago
This is a lie. Barenboim is one of the best.. You can't say such a impolite thing like that :(
ThePVGS1 1 year ago
@ThePVGS1 Gosh I'm sorry to criticize. I forget we live in an age of boosterism. Having judgment based on comparison, what will happen next? Independent thinking? I only erred by not suggesting alternatives. That is my fault. Of course, calling one a liar isn't impolite (emoticon deleted). I do hope your reply was in jest. It is either funny or incredibly hypocritical.
2ndviolinist 1 year ago
@ThePVGS1 you sound retarded
jojopooo 1 year ago
HHHHHHEEEEEEEEYYYYY!!
ThePVGS1 1 year ago
i have a cd with goldberg playing this and its sounds so much the same its crazy!
QCxns 1 year ago
There goes Barenboim, killin' everything that moves
SepiaLatimanus 1 year ago
@SepiaLatimanus Donno the guy but this is funny.
ReaIly 1 year ago
Beautiful! :)
AdamSzeberenyi 1 year ago 2
"Ready when you are Sergent Pembry"
hans1538 1 year ago
No matter who plays it, Aria from the Goldberg Variations will always be one of the greatest pieces of music ever composed!
Pre114 1 year ago 51
@Pre114 It does matter who plays it, but it will always be one of the greatest pieces of music ever composed [no only the aria, but also the whole variations].
pila406 1 year ago
@Pre114 I agree completely. Here's how Shostakovich put it: "A great piece of music is beautiful regardless of how it is performed. Any prelude or fugue of Bach can be played at any tempo, with or without rhythmic nuances, and it will still be great music. That's how music should be written, so that no-one, no matter how philistine, can ruin it."
aabaker22 1 year ago 3
@Pre114 I agree
stantofanto 1 year ago
@Pre114 The Goldberg Variations will always be one of the greatest pieces ever composed.
xiangyik 1 year ago
@Pre114 for once i am at liberty to say "wait till you hear MY performance"
thepweencess 1 year ago
@Pre114 Aaaaaaamén
rmgj 1 year ago
@Pre114 have you heard me play it?
utubuser10 1 year ago
@Pre114 Even UBL?
DangerousLenity 8 months ago
No matter who plays it, Aria from Goldberg Variations id one of the greatest pieces music ever composed
Pre114 1 year ago 2
How can Bach be played too "baroquey"? How ignorant is that? Bach is baroque. Ornaments were often not even written in, they were left to the talent of the keyboard player. Many things were not written in, it was assumed that a good performer would extemporise and add ornaments. Barenboim is impeccable.
angietihi 1 year ago 57
And you would know this because you were alive back in the day and happened to be best friends with good old Johann himself... lol
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@brassmonkeyjew dude, are you on youtube bashing barenboim? how idiotic and ignorant is this... (Bach himself would´ve listen to this performance by Daniel and get of his ass and applaud for a good 25 min) so shut up, will you..
bytilmo 1 year ago
@angietihi "Barenboim is impeccable", but somehow I love him better when plays Beethoven..and Bach is reserved for Gould..sorry, not trying to impose sth, just some kind of my personal "profiling" of great(est) pianists..
gitaclick 1 year ago 18
@gitaclick , hello you have to play zimmerman its also a pianist, i am a pianist to, he has a more great performance and he plays with his soul.
eutenhodoisfilhos 8 months ago
@gitaclick Bach is reserved for Schiff at the present time.
jdbrown371 7 months ago
@angietihi Reminds me of some clown that was complaining about a Chopin nocturne making him "sleepy".
bsd300d 1 year ago
@angietihi This is very true. As an oboist, I come across a number of Bach works that require the player to come up with their own ornamentation
MrHicks091 1 year ago
@MrHicks091 You remind me of the fake Dr who also likes, 80's music, healing crystals, global warming, Bach, and pretending he has a PhD, so he can call himself "Dr" like Dr Who. "He" is also friends with the racist nazi psych randomlaughingman who also loves Bill Hicks like you do. This cannot be a coincidence
Dayversion 1 year ago
@angietihi
You are right, absolutely.
Egill2011 1 year ago
@angietihi
Yet just because Bach is from the Baroque period, it does not mean that he shares the common aspects of a "baroque" composer. All the ornaments are written in his manuscript and he criticized performers who improvised in his music. Stop spreading assumptions please.
Barenboim's performance lacked sensitivity in several areas. He needs more discipline; he is consumed by the moving phrases. A mediocre experience, though some may passionately try to prove me wrong.
NimbleTurtle13 1 year ago
@NimbleTurtle13 Let us know when you have a point...
tropicalpimp 11 months ago
@NimbleTurtle13 Most Bach scholars disagree with your conclusions, actually, and I would like to see sourcing of the claim that Bach criticized those who improvised ornaments in his music.
contratromba858 10 months ago
@contratromba858 You can research on the internet or discover through your own intuition that these ornaments are inappropriate. As for how "most Bach scholars disagree" with my "conclusions", I would need evidence for that. One musicologist and renowned pianist, Charles Rosen for example, would agree with me.
NimbleTurtle13 10 months ago
@angietihi You can also argue over who has the right version of what piece? There were no copy machines back then, everything was hand copied and how do we know they didn't add their interpretation to the copy?
philateliceun 11 months ago
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It's played far too "Baroquey" for Bach. And far too fast. But that's just my opinion. And i noticed he repeated some sections. The score doesn't say to do this, so this is unnecessary. I wish musicians now a days would show composers respect by playing it correctly (as intended by the composer!)
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@brassmonkeyjew Are you serious? This is a little faster than I play it and I SUCK. But I think this performance is stellar. As far as correctly, I think one can play it exactly as it is written and still not feel it. He feels it. And that is what truly matters.
msxxfast 1 year ago 2
@brassmonkeyjew man youre an ass. to baroquey? bach is what? contemporary?-.-
InbictaProductionzZ 1 year ago
Not sure which score you are playing from but every copy of the Goldberg Variations that I have ever seen has the repeats very clearly marked. (Hint - that's what the 2 dots before the double bar line in bars 16 and 32 means ...)
Barenboim shows considerable respect for and understanding of both the music and the composer.and although I normally prefer to hear this on the harpsichord I think that this is a truly great performance by a great musician.
md95065 1 year ago
Nice, but sounds much better when played on harpsichord ..
violinoamore 1 year ago
Para los cinéfilos, esta es la música favorita de psicópata Annibal Lecter en "El Silencio de los corderos" :-)
prblancoes 1 year ago
best version on youtube
brendonireland 1 year ago
he looks like a dodgy version of Big from sex and the city! plays beautifully tho.xx
jgh69 1 year ago
I still felt he embellished far too much, and the final was as wooden as had my old aunt played it.
mergblue 2 years ago
It's as if he is repeating Gould's interpretative way, like a mimic.
freeqwerqwer 2 years ago
That may be true, however, it is a complete myth that Gould was ever a great Bach interpreter. Barenboim is guilty of emulating another performer. Gould was guilty of emulating a true performer. Gould's Bach interps. are cleverly contrived phrases that are ostensibly emotional, but they are, in truth, just as contrived as this performance. Moreso, Gould is even guiltier than Barenboim because he is more intelligent and SHOULD know better than to feign true unadulterated talent.
hopefullysoon1 2 years ago
Why is the arpeggio played in a descending manner in the first part of the aria and then ascendingly the next time he played it?
herakles120 2 years ago
why not?
tomgoldswain2 2 years ago 2
Because it's his style.
ThePVGS1 1 year ago
excellent!! Pure Extasy!
groslucas 2 years ago
Beautifel!!!
Данил
5*
Danilmalinov 2 years ago 2
beautifel ...
letthemetalplay 2 years ago
Very nice, though I prefer Gould's.
INTJewel 2 years ago 3
gracias por emocionarme ^^
Clarite07 2 years ago
Barenboim is without any reasonable doubt the world's greatest...typist!
every note is exactly where it should be, intonated as from the book.
Unfortunately Barenboim's interpretation lacks something utterly human: emotion.
peace everybody.
hyperseauton 2 years ago
@hyperseauton totally agree.. it's perfect but i feel the lack of something... i sure respect him, i knee down in front of Master Barenboim, i should never look even him in the eyes, but i just feel the lack of something. Forgive me Master.
filopaa1990 2 years ago
@hyperseauton What do you mean with "every note is exactly where it should be"? If you mean that he types the notes with a metronome, you are not right, given the obvious rubati. And if you agree that he uses rubati: there are no objective criteria to apply those
J0HNW0UDT 2 years ago
@hyperseauton: do you really think it lacks emotion? i perceive it totaly opposite. look at his face....even if not expressing emotions it is full of them......
CroBabe76 2 years ago 3
No.
LucerneWorker 1 year ago
Well song as used doesn't necessarily imply words ... your advance music diploma should have explained this reality to you! Even the most musically uneducated person understands this fundamental point.
Yes, a Mahler symphony is simply a big song, or song in general usage. So a Mahler 3rd Symphony song is not as good as Beethovens 2nd symphony song. How hard is that to understand?
Perhaps you should study music more!
Cheers.
EMPERORMIKI 2 years ago
Very hard to understand actually! Are you really stupid or just pretending? The use of the word song is superfluous, just stop after symphony in your example. That would be clearer. In fact the composer himself is the authority and they did not call their symphonies "symphony song".
The studying is required on your part I'm afraid.
sansumida 2 years ago
I am in a good mood today so I will give you another example. I ride a bicycle which is different from a car, but by your logic you would drive a car-bicycle as you like to mix up two words with different meanings into one. So clear isn't it?!
sansumida 2 years ago
Who says car-bicycle ... LOL.
I was just talking to a friend about which Mahler song he liked best ... and he said the first movement of Mahlers 2nd symphony! We understood each other perfectly ... as does the rest of the country/world.
I'm sorry that you refuse to acknowledge this plain as day fact and continue to call me asshole, dumbfuck, bitch, etc.
It is truly sad.
EMPERORMIKI 2 years ago
You are being very disingenuous! If you really know Mahler then you know he wrote Das Lied von der Erde (the Song of the Earth) between his 8th and 9th symphonies because he had a superstition about the number 9. Now that is the proper use of the of word song as in song cycle but not used for his remaining instrumental symphonies. You only speak for yourself not the rest of the world. I did not use swear words to insult you, but if the suit fits...
sansumida 2 years ago
Your friend is as confused as you. He could have said Songs of a Wayfarer or the Ruckert Lieder. These are SONGS not SYMPHONIES. The Mahler 2nd Symphony (Resurrection ) has a song called Urlicht as the last movement. The whole symphony is NOT a song as it contains 5 instrumental movements and one song movement. Did you pass first grade?
sansumida 2 years ago
It's amazing you cannot admit your clear error despite your PhD in music ...
Everyone I know, and I know almost the entire city of Phoenix, says songs when referring to classical music ... so clearly you are very wrong.
I love the music of Mahler very much ... although I think his music was perfected in Schoenberg. There are many Schoenberg songs that I love too like the Phantasy for violin and piano ... great song.
EMPERORMIKI 2 years ago
You are obviously a wind-up merchant!! As they say ignorance is bliss so stay happy.
sansumida 2 years ago
The Gurrelieder is a great SONG cycle, Phantasy for violin and piano an equally great PIECE. Don't you get it by now?
Your tastes are great but you are very pedantic about the use of this one word word to cover all genres. Please dont include the great city of Phoenix in your view, you speak for yourself only.
did you check the dictionary or THINK about my earlier posts at all. PS I do not have a PHD do you?
sansumida 2 years ago
Okay you win.
I was kidding by the way.
EMPERORMIKI 2 years ago
4:04 it just does not get better than that. Sit back and close your eyes and take in the melody. It must be from Heaven!
BeatleUniversity 2 years ago
Beatle: That's the bar that gives me the chills, too. Not sure why.
jjp009 2 years ago
I think because it's perfect and from Heaven.
BeatleUniversity 2 years ago
@emperprmiki: let´s hope that day never comes....
lmao!
CroBabe76 2 years ago
Is this the variation from the movie "Hannibal"? There are so many of them and I'm not familiar with them yet, so I'm mixed up.
jjp009 2 years ago
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CroBabe76 2 years ago
CroBabe: Thank you so much. It almost sounds easy enough to learn on the piano, but I bet it isn't...nothing that comes from pure genius like this is ever simple.
jjp009 2 years ago