Why I am a Christian? Why I am a Muslim? ( 2 of 4 )

[HeresSeem]

Shabir is a good candidate of Islam.

[jazzmaster1972]

this is for market share. you dont want jesus stealing your demographic.

study the tomb of seti the first in abydos. and u will see where religion was stolen from.

[oombuddah]

I think the last 2 seconds of this part says it all for the Christian side.

[oakking1]

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Christianity is older than Islam and Islam borrowed ideas from Christianity and Judaism.

[Eye0fTheStorm]

As stupid as saying Christianity stole ideas from Judaism.

Or as stupid as saying Judaism stole ideas from Abraham.

Every prophet in the history of the world got his information from God. In the Quran God says to the muslims he narrates the stories of prophets "known to them" because of exactly that. Those were the prophets they knew legends of.

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[Eye0fTheStorm]

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And to clear up the bad name people gave to Gods prophets. Like the biblical prophet Lot which the bible describes as drunkard and a molester of his own daughter.

God choosing a prophet who is an alcoholic & rapes his own daughter?

In the Quran all of these blasphemies against these noble prophets are cleared up

Thats why theyre in the Quran. Allah says he does not narrate these stories for "mere play". They are not entertainment. They are to learn lessons

[oakking1]

blah blah blah. Merry Christmas..Christ being Jesus and Mas coming from the word Mass. Your beliefs would have more respect if it was not filled with terrorists fundamentalists killing all of the time.  I respect Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judaism. I think all should worship as they please as long as they do not harm anyone. Why Jihad? Let God be the judge. If Christianity is wrong (which I doubt) let God sort it out. You guys are nut jobs. Using religion to mask psycopathic tendencies.

[Deism4life]

@oakking1, christianity IS WRONG. and do not doubt that

christianity says that the earth is flat, it says that the sun revolves around, it says that jews are better than everyone else (Deutronomy 7 6), ok? either ALL of that is right, or all of that is wrong

a dead man cant ressurect becase according to science, 2 hours after death the body decomposes into JELLO, the brain EVAPORATES

ressurrection is FICTION. the body was stolen and sold.

ressurection was one of jesus's friend's dream.

[oakking1]

blah blah blah blah. more mulsim myths and legends. you take facts and twist them to your advantage. Christianity is false that is why people get healed when they invoke the name of Jesus. sure whatever. I go by my experience.

[Deism4life]

NO ONE gets healed by believing in christianity

muslim mythes?

wtf, i'm not a muslim, i'm not an arab, i am NOTHING! i was never a muslim, i was never nothing, i oppose all religions

and u have no experience. believing in jesus is just like believing that the earth is flat. and no one gets healed

a religious man is just like a DRUNK man. do u really think that a man is happier when he's drunk?

[oakking1]

you have a right to your opinion, but i personally know people who have been healed due to prayer. scientific studies have even been done. i am not drunk in religion. i take a philosophical approach toward religion and even have some skepticism and doubts about certain things. i don' take it as all or nothing. i look at it study it and apply what makes sense to me. what makes sense is that the universe could not have come from nothing.

[Deism4life]

again, if there was ever such thing as "nothing", then there would STILL be just "nothing"

the bible is a man made fiction, its written by the PEOPLE, and you follow those people like a parrot!

there is no hell, there is no heaven, there is no / never was ressurrection or creation, and the bible is wrong about everything that it says starting from creation all the way down to ressurrection

and so what? the day when i started burning bibles my mom was cured from cancer, how's THAT for healing?

[oakking1]

i dont follow like a parrot. i make informed diecisions and choices. sounds like you have your own issues to work out. good luck with all that...

[Deism4life]

no, when u say "believing in jesus will heal you" it means that u have been told that IN CHURCH, which means u are ignorant enough not to read some secular history books, which is why u believe in resurrection in the first place

saying that he resurrected is just a way to get people to follow his teachings, and saying that hell exists at all is just a scare tactic to ALSO get people to follow his teacings.

[oakking1]

you have issues.

[babiinene]

This is false. I have read secular and christian history books and information.

Do you know why the french revolution started? or even the french inquisition? the secular books will not tell you the real reason why the french rejected the papacy and declared war on the roman catholic institution.

Why is there a King James bible? Because King James actually had received one of the true bibles that were being burned by the catholic church and created his very own translation. now why were they

[babiinene]

Trying to burn the bibles?

If you look up the history of the roman empire and the catholic church it will show you they were martyring apostolic people, people preaching the word of god, or anyone with a bible. Why would they do that?

Because the word of God is true and Jesus really did die and was resurrected on the third day. The catholic church is pagan and satanic based therefore it was their sole job to diminish anything that has to do with the true word of God

[babiinene]

Science Can not explain everything lol.

Science is majority based on theories. The theory of evolution.. a Theory. the Jews were God's chosen people, and not necessarily that thy are better than everyone else. EVERYONE is created equal.

as for science, sorry. I refuse to believe that I came from an ape or organisms, and there was a big bang that created the earth. yes Jesus died over 2000 years ago but has not returned because NOT ALL THE PROPHECY OF HIS RETURN HAS BEEN FULFILLED.

[Tchado1000]

@oakking1

This comment has got to be one of the most superficial idiotic comments i've ever read on youtube !

Borrows ideas.....LOL !

Of course christianity existed before Islam , if falsehood didn't exist , God would've never sent messengers !

[Deism4life]

@oakking1 yeah and just dont forget that the bible (just like the torah and the quran) are nothing but absurd science, fictional, mythological, man made lying doctorines, which are again, nothing but lies

if u believe in jesus, then that is your faith.

u cannot go out and say that that is the truth just because u believe in that

his body was stolen out of the tomb, and sold later, not ressurrected. your religion if based on fear, lies, religious propaganda, and fundamentalism.

[oakking1]

no i believe in me. i believe in my sprit that is eternal that God gave me. I believe Jesus brought people closer to God. In Islam, I see destruction and random violence that makes no sense. The only peaceful religion is Buddhism. I like Jesus but not his followers. Nor am I impressed with the sons of Mohammed.

[Deism4life]

look, i do NOT know why u think that i am muslim

i am ANTI-ISLAM. i have read about muhammad, i have found out that he is a criminal

the only reason u believe in jesus is because that's what ur head has been drilled with when u were little. then u grew up believing he's really prophet.

well guess what? people have waited for 2000 years and NOTHING happened and he never came back! and he never will, because he died, and the body was stolen from the tumb, regardless of whether u believe or not.

[haytam112211]

hi, i have read about the life of the prophet Muhammad and have began reading the Quran. i guess people see things differently because i cant seem to find anything in the Quran or in the Prophet that is criminally inclined. you might have more knowledge than me though.

thanks for your time.

[Deism4life]

no, i doubt u really have

secular history says that muhammad was a criminal; he raped jewish and christian women UP THE ASS, he has murdered all of their husbands, he has enslaved their children, he has raped 6 year old children, he was a drunk, masagianistic, stone aged DRUNK, who exiled jews from Mecca, who forced islam and arabic against people's wills.

he was nothing but a liar, a criminal, and a thieve, and that explain's today's muslims' actions.

[haytam112211]

oh sorry i thought you read about him in authentic sources, sure ive read wat u mentioned several times but these claims are groundless, i cant just beleive what anyone says without evidence.anyone can say that Kennedy raped children, educated people would just laugh at these claims. educated person would not just repeat what he/she has heard but instead, do his own research.

thers no historical record of him drinking,raping,killing innocents, and surely no forcing faith.

thanks for your time

[Deism4life]

i think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying

i HAVE done research, and its called LIBRARY. not internet. library, and actual books, written by an arab M.J. Akhbar. it proves that he was a violent man, who forced religion on meccans, who murdered entire jewish tribes, who enslaved jewish and christin women along with their children.

[haytam112211]

hi,i understand ur efforts but reading a book is not research.A book may say that Muhammad killed some Jews,which is true,but it might not tell you that the reason was because they helped in killing innocent Muslims.ofcourse you can prove anyone to be violent man.if given part of the story,you can prove a judge to be a criminal,by not mentioning what the offender committed.a great example of half the stories are Robert Spencer's books,i think we should not be gullible even if we grew up that way

[haytam112211]

if we really want to learn about Islam we should read the source, (the Quran) which clearly states "There is no compulsion in religion" 2:256.

ie. one cannot be forced into belief. if someone does not believe in his heart then he is not a Muslim.

Islam literately means: willingly submitting to the will of God.

watch?v=MXn2_4SyP3Q&feature=ch­annel

this should shed light into the treatment of Muhammad to the meccans

[babiinene]

This is actually correct. I was reading a time line of the church and it showed how they murdered christian and jewish women and children

[villaessaouira]

islam is about to be RATIONAL!!! christianity is all about EMOTION!!!!!

[oakking1]

islam is not about emoiton? getting people psyched up to kill. insighting emotion to go out and kill. at least roman catholicism is based on philosophy and theology. i was studying to be a priest and studied aristotle, and plato. do muslims study other books? i doubt it. it seems like they only memorize the koran like fundamentalist christians remember the bible. my faith is in Jesus Christ, and his Church and am proud to profess it.

[villaessaouira]

hi! MITHRA worshiper

all your fucking Pagan priest are PEDOPHILE!!!

[oakking1]

and your religion is filled with terrorists, suicide bombers who kill women and children. your men abuse women. the pedophiles are arrested, put in jail, and kicked, and expelled from the church. so fuck you. maybe the desert sun got to your head. islam copied parts of christianity and judaism. christianity is older than islam by several hundred years. I believe on one God, the Father Almighty, and in Jesus Christ Our Lord. Amen Come Lord Jesus...

[oakking1]

fuck you. go play in a sand storm. for christmas i will send you a ham to eat.

[KaOssis]

LOOOOOL! the True identity of the 'Son of God is in the Book of Revelation 22: "And the Spirit and the Bride saith...", mean's the 'Son of God' is a 'Tomboy', a physically female gendered body of a women with the Spirt of the Dead, NOT a physically male gendered man with a penis between his leg's, prove's YOU can't read the Bible, and not one of your man made religion's have any Hope!

[jaed123]

As Late sheikh Ahmed Deedat said "Bible has sons by tons"

[jaed123]

Correction....As Late sheikh Ahmed Deedat said "In the Bible God has sons by tons"..sorry for the spam

[amooballer]

Christian guy MAKES NO SENSE.

[BornInBosnia]

Alaahu'Akbar :)

[haniffali]

mashaALLAH, sk. shabir ally has very very good arguments. in other words, he schooled the other guy.

[saidpls]

"Such was our argument,with which we supported Abraham against his people.We exalt whomever we will to higher ranks.Your Lord is Most Wise, Omniscient. And we granted him Isaac and Jacob,and we guided both of them.Similarly,we guided Noah before that, and from his descendants David, Solomon,Job,Joseph,Moses,and Aaron.We thus reward the righteous.Also,Zachariah,John, Jesus,and Elias;all were righteous.And Ismail,Elisha,Jonah,and Lot;each of these we distinguished over all the people"Quran(6:83-86

[villaessaouira]

crhristianity MAKE NO SENCE!!!!!!

is pagan doctrine !!!! WAKE UP !!!

[1MoreMuslim]

Check the bibliography of Bill Musk, he didn't write a single book dedicated to christianity. True face of Islam, Holy War...

[ArabianLover81]

yeah I have noticed that too..interesting