Trapping does not work. Especcially trapping for that one hit everytime. Then i would go for simple jabs to the head and body and when the oppertunity is there i enter with combinations to head and body to clinch or grappling. But doing these drills and believing in them will get you knocked out.
Trapping is one of the best things to do in a street fight. A simple pak sao combined with a straightblust is a very powerful combination. Definitely usable on the street because i've tried it. Thanks to coach Robert for teaching us this tehniques.
Some of it does.. some of it doesn't.. the trapping that requires close range usually doesn't (by then the other person backs off usually). Most of your MMA folks play it safe and only use the same tactics against each other---Cung Li is the only one who really uses other techniques.
Styles don't happen on their own; you have to make them happen. And apparently, MMA(the sport) folks don't have that kind of skill. Striking isn't easy to train compared to grappling and fighters undertrain. By that, I mean don't train enough and or don't train correctly.
the fact that no trapping has ever been applied in thousands of mma and vale tudo matches in the last 15 years is a fair amount of evidence that it doesnt work under those rules.Why dont the so called skilled ones show that it works by entering a show.Any jkd or wing chun guy that entered mma ended up looking like a bad kickboxer,it always happens.I guess were still waiting for the great trapper to enter the competition.
UFC is not the proof of what works on the street by any means.
To say that someone should come out and use trapping in a UFC like fight is about the most ignorant thing I have heard in a long time.
Besides I have seen fighters trap hands while on the ground. They trap the hands and punch. It works if you use it when you should and not when you shouldn't.
As Wonderstoned himself points out, trapping only works in situations where the distance between the combatants can be maintained: on the ground and in a phonebooth. It works less well where there is space for either combatant to retreat. This is why in UFC and MMA, trapping doesn't work and is unnecessary.
Trapping in UFC/streetfight is potentially dangerous to the trapper 'cos it requires maintaing an upright posture which exposes the neck & chin. Also, it requires the trapper to throw their arms out in front. If the trap fails, the trapper's now very exposed to counter-attacks, especially from hooks & uppercuts. Another danger comes from what happens when you try to trap and suddenly your opponent closes in: your arms are collapse onto your body and now you are trapped yourself.
Even in situations where trapping can be useful: on the ground or in a phonebooth, the amount of trapping techniques required is very small. It's unnecessary to go through the amount of training required by JKD and Wing Chun to train this aspect of fighting. I find clinchfighting to be more useful as more often than not, you'll find yourself getting into a clinch. In a stand-up fight, no one evers stays in punching/trapping range for more than 4 seconds anyway, as its the most dangerous range
I should add also that in addition to an upright posture, trapping requires one to lower their shoulders exposing the chin and neck. In the training of trapping through chi sao or hubud etc., the practitioner is told to be relaxed/focused etc etc. In a real fight, the last thing you are going to be is relaxed and focused. I found the Crazy Monkey Boxing hunchback stance to be more protective of the body as well as allow more power into punches as the shoulder muscles are bunched up.
i agree with you but understand that mma guys dont train for it and or to do it. Your not allowed to do a lot of things alos in mma nut i dont believe it works also
Trapping does not work. Especcially trapping for that one hit everytime. Then i would go for simple jabs to the head and body and when the oppertunity is there i enter with combinations to head and body to clinch or grappling. But doing these drills and believing in them will get you knocked out.
minasz 11 months ago
Trapping is one of the best things to do in a street fight. A simple pak sao combined with a straightblust is a very powerful combination. Definitely usable on the street because i've tried it. Thanks to coach Robert for teaching us this tehniques.
vladeNL 1 year ago
replying to ledrox comment, stop reading books mate you can tell you have no idea about street fighing or trapping
jkdslav 1 year ago
question ,why does trapping like this not exist in mma,might it be because it doesnt work.
billysue2 3 years ago
Some of it does.. some of it doesn't.. the trapping that requires close range usually doesn't (by then the other person backs off usually). Most of your MMA folks play it safe and only use the same tactics against each other---Cung Li is the only one who really uses other techniques.
yoshiofdeath 3 years ago
Styles don't happen on their own; you have to make them happen. And apparently, MMA(the sport) folks don't have that kind of skill. Striking isn't easy to train compared to grappling and fighters undertrain. By that, I mean don't train enough and or don't train correctly.
TheSenseofTouch 2 years ago
the fact that no trapping has ever been applied in thousands of mma and vale tudo matches in the last 15 years is a fair amount of evidence that it doesnt work under those rules.Why dont the so called skilled ones show that it works by entering a show.Any jkd or wing chun guy that entered mma ended up looking like a bad kickboxer,it always happens.I guess were still waiting for the great trapper to enter the competition.
billysue2 2 years ago
Because trapping is not for this type of contest.
What are you thinking?
UFC is not the proof of what works on the street by any means.
To say that someone should come out and use trapping in a UFC like fight is about the most ignorant thing I have heard in a long time.
Besides I have seen fighters trap hands while on the ground. They trap the hands and punch. It works if you use it when you should and not when you shouldn't.
You are a moron making statements like this one.
WonderStoned 2 years ago
As Wonderstoned himself points out, trapping only works in situations where the distance between the combatants can be maintained: on the ground and in a phonebooth. It works less well where there is space for either combatant to retreat. This is why in UFC and MMA, trapping doesn't work and is unnecessary.
ledrox 2 years ago
Trapping in UFC/streetfight is potentially dangerous to the trapper 'cos it requires maintaing an upright posture which exposes the neck & chin. Also, it requires the trapper to throw their arms out in front. If the trap fails, the trapper's now very exposed to counter-attacks, especially from hooks & uppercuts. Another danger comes from what happens when you try to trap and suddenly your opponent closes in: your arms are collapse onto your body and now you are trapped yourself.
ledrox 2 years ago
Even in situations where trapping can be useful: on the ground or in a phonebooth, the amount of trapping techniques required is very small. It's unnecessary to go through the amount of training required by JKD and Wing Chun to train this aspect of fighting. I find clinchfighting to be more useful as more often than not, you'll find yourself getting into a clinch. In a stand-up fight, no one evers stays in punching/trapping range for more than 4 seconds anyway, as its the most dangerous range
ledrox 2 years ago
I should add also that in addition to an upright posture, trapping requires one to lower their shoulders exposing the chin and neck. In the training of trapping through chi sao or hubud etc., the practitioner is told to be relaxed/focused etc etc. In a real fight, the last thing you are going to be is relaxed and focused. I found the Crazy Monkey Boxing hunchback stance to be more protective of the body as well as allow more power into punches as the shoulder muscles are bunched up.
ledrox 2 years ago
i agree with you but understand that mma guys dont train for it and or to do it. Your not allowed to do a lot of things alos in mma nut i dont believe it works also
gnicevids 2 years ago
Put me in a phone booth with you and I will make it work great.
It is for lose quarter fighting and it is a means to an end. Trapping leads to grappling and major tools like elbows and headbutts and knees.
It works great in the correct situation.
WonderStoned 2 years ago
It is not used in the UFC because it is not the correct techniques for the venue.
If you judge what works by what they use in the UFC then you are sadly mistaking real fighting for a contest.
That is like saying that good footwork is useless because I have never seen it used in a phone booth.
Get a clue man.
WonderStoned 2 years ago
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WonderStoned 2 years ago
very very nice
nevarnejoh 3 years ago
Go on Macedonian!
zocipro 4 years ago