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  • @ 4;49... ALL I CAN SAY AS FAR AS "GOD" BUT TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE A mushroom AM I CORRECT?

  • @xxx777aaa LOL! Yes, it does a bit. But it's a quartz crystal.

  • hi- at 4;49 the item obviously represents the god......why!!??

  • @xxx777aaa - The "why" is obvious, as I pointed out. What does the stone look like?

  • East - Earth - Pentacle - Body. OK that I get. Air in the West, though? That's unusual. True, I'm no Lycian; I trained in a different trad. We would put water in the west and fire in the east and rotate those two depending upon what time of day it was when we did our rites. For example, if we did a rite between midnight and noon, fire (or the sun) was in the east and water in the west. But from noon to midnight, fire went in the west and water in the east. But of late, North=Air & East=Earth

  • And I have specific reasons for associating Air with the North and winter and the dormant time of year, and Earth with spring and flowers and the blooming period, etc.

  • @ladylejean215 - What is your reasoning for your placements?

  • @WiccanTexan It is difficult to explain adequately here on YT comments, but in brief: since I live in the Northern Hemisphere, in the winter in the North the earth is bare and the winds are sharp and high, whereas in the Spring the earth itself is coming alive with color and flowers, etc. That, and much of my own practice is rooted in Northern European tradition anyway.

  • And I have specific reasons for associating Air with the North and winter and the dormant time of year, and Earth with spring and flowers and the blooming period, etc.

  • @ladylejean215 - In the Lycian Tradition, we use the zodical signs as associations. Air is in the West because that is the place where the Sun (aka, the physical life) dies; the breath leaves the body.

  • ahhh, it all makes sense ur crowleyites so ur a trapped in ignorance.

  • @Afroxec - Crowley's involvement in the evolution of Wicca has been greatly exaggerated. I recommend reading "Triumph of the Moon" by Ronald Hutton for more info.

  • @linuxuk44 - There is no "pagan religion." Pagan is a blanket term that basically means anything non-Abrahamic.

  • Oh I'm also half Mexican! That's cool that u celebrate Dia de Los Muertos!

  • @IWannaBeANart83 - My husband is full Mexican, which is why part of our celebration involves this wonderful holiday.

  • Lycian! Very cool! I'm also a Texan pagan here married to a Turk. I've been to Lycia aka Antalya/Mugla Turkey. Very beautiful magical place! I like your videos! Its interesting u use a dagger in your work. I too also use a dagger. But it's a Caucasian dagger and my craft evolves around Kafkaz culture. Blessings :)

  • @IWannaBeANart83 - Just a note, "Lycian" in our Tradition does not imply a link to the Lycia region. "Lycian" is "the wolfish way" linguistically. As for the dagger, it's the most important tool in Wicca; I can't imagine a Wiccan being without one! So, where in Texas are you?

  • I'm in Dallas :)

  • @WiccanTexan Wiccans use daggers? I am not wicca so I don't know all the tools they use... Unless the Anthame which I'm asuming wiccans call it... is a dagger which I thought was more like ritual knife....

  • @IWannaBeANart83 - Yes, the dagger, or athame as we call it, is the most important personal tool we use. Some traditions teach it should be dull-bladed and ritual use only, others use many other types of functional blades and cut various items.

  • @WiccanTexan Ah thanks for clairifying:)

  • @IWannaBeANart83 - No problem. Here's an excellent site to check out: wicca.cnbeyer.com/

  • is your god stone quartz? thats pretty neat. (:

  • @wakeeeupmaggie - yes, it's quartz.

  • is your god stone quartz? thats pretty neat. (:

  • I don't knock Wicca, but generally speaking, it's a little too hetero for me... I do however embrace phallic worship with an emphasis on Aphrodite's son Priapus. Google him and check out his big yummy phallus! I'll bet his "tool" wouldn't even fit on your altar! ;)

  • @EquaIity4all - That all depends on your perspective. Homosexual and transgender easily fit into the modern Wiccan practices.

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  • Any magical practice MUST be with real burning candles and incense not substitute like fake electricity candles . smh

  • @iKenleyTv - Well, it's up to you whether to put such inflexible restrictions on your magick. Electricity has certainly never hindered my getting results. Magick, by its very nature, MUST be fluid and adaptable. The tools are merely that; tools, to put oneself into a particular mindset. If you're fighting an asthma attack, it's really hard to focus. Modern technology, while it may not be as "natural" looking, tends to keep one from dying, which is very important.

  • NO..." F- " . in natural magick or real magick, you suppose to use real flame , real candles not electric candles, cause its not real and the energy of it isn't real also. so do it right next time .

  • @iKenleyTv - hate to break it to you, but electricity is quite real and natural. The conductor doesn't matter. Also, this particular altar is not used for magickal work; it's for Sabbat and Esbat rituals.

  • @iKenleyTv - addendum: Wiccans adapt as needed; the objects are merely tools to create a certain mindset. Due to health issues in our last coven, candle smoke was not an option.

  • Thanks for sharing. Very informative.

  • im a wiccan and i see some sililarities in our belives but at the same time i see some diffrances, such as i use the 'dagger' or 'athmai' for fire and the 'wand' for air. also i see that you didnt have any representation of the fifth element of spirit, i kinda like your altar better than mine though. gr8 video.

  • @cardudesson - We don't have a physical representation for Spirit because that is personal to each individual.

  • Water in the north, eh? Huh, never seen anyone outside traditional Chinese religious practices place water in the north. I like the idea.

  • @jefferyinhouston - at the time of the filming, a shelf of skulls was in our then-coven meeting room. My husband is an artist who makes Day of the Dead calaveras, and the shelf was a convenient place to store them. They are not part of the altar setup itself; we just happened to keep the table on that wall because that's where the wall plug is located for the electric candles.

  • arent the lycians very occupied with the tarot and do they not put the east west south and north symbols also with tarot?

  • @witchcerridwen We use the Tarot to teach our Wheel of the Year, so in that sense we are very occupied with it. :) And yes, we correspond our directions with specific Tarot cards.

  • wow great alter ``

  • Thanks for sharing your informative video for us to see, blessings and so nice to see a well representation of a local friend I am proud to know and look up to!

  • OMG...I tried to take an online study course in your trad a few years ago. Then suddenly you guys seemed to dissappear. I'm glad you're all well. I found so much to be insightful in what Boniface taught.

  • @ncprice777 - sorry, a lot of that online stuff fell by the wayside.

  • Now that's new...putting water in the North.

    Myself personally, I do it like this: air/north, earth/east, fire/south, water/west. Long story behind that and very limited comment form here. Let's just say my reasoning for it is *really* prosaic. LOL!!

  • very interesting tradition. blessed be :D

  • I love it. This certainly spiked my interest in looking into other traditions' altars. The light bulb luminaries remind me of my family's south Asian tradition's altars. I personally prefer wax candles on mine.

  • Due to respiratory health issues in our family, we cannot burn real candles. Health issues of a coven member was the original incentive for this electric alternative.

  • Ah ok.

  • Beautiful altar. I really like the basic representation around the God and Goddess, rather than the usual emotional/strength/etc. It's a great and simple way to look at life in general. Thanks!

  • What is the Lycian Tradition? I have never heard

    of that tradition before?

    Beautiful altar btw!!!

  • The Lycian Tradition was established in 1989 by my husband Boniface.

  • This is a really wonderful video! :)

  • Ummm....what's these all about?

  • They're about the altar tools of my Wiccan Tradition.

  • Skulls creep me out. No offense. :P

  • No offense taken. Skulls are a widely-used cultural symbol for death/rebirth. Why do they creep you out?

  • where did you get the skulls are they real?

  • No, they're not real. We have skulls made of ceramic, plaster, concrete or styrofoam.

  • aww that's great they look real. i wish i have 1

  • crowleys decks are the BEST

    im proud to own the origional book of thoth tarot deck

    love your alter:-)

    Blessed Be :-)

  • Lycian? :O

  • It's my Tradition.

  • this was very well done and you have a good idea here teaching and showing others what they can do for them selves.. I give you big kudos!!

  • For a brief moment, I thought you were going to say you had to turn the air conditioning back on because I'm not ready for Summerland.

    I'm really new on my Pagan learning journey and this was great.

    FFPS!! (five five pointed starts)

  • Well, I'm definitely not ready for the Summerlands yet! ;) Glad you enjoyed the video. I'm getting inspired to rev up the camera and get more up.

  • Truth be told, I thought you were going to say, "its getting hot as hell" but I don't know you that well and I don't think we are supposed to talk that way on the net. :)

    High of 80 today.

    )o(

  • I hope so. I miss your great videos!!!

  • Very educational. Thank you.

  • Are they real skulls?

  • No. Some are concrete, some plaster, some paper mache.

  • What is Lycian Wicca?

  • It is my Tradition. If you Google it, the official site should come right up.

  • Thats pretty good... but I can't remember something... I know the 4 outer candles each represented something, and I know that the bottom left was left unlit to signify the darkness... but what were the other three?

  • Wow nice altar I just have an old antique sowing box for an altar it has nice side flaps to store things though. I need electric lights for mine because my six year old tries to blow out my candles when I do rituals.

  • Very nice, As always with your videos :-)

    I was wondering what the hand represents in your tradition?

  • Most of the symbolism is oathbound to one of our Degrees, but I'll check to see if there's a general explanation I can give publicly.

  • Oh I'm sorry. :-)

  • Nothing to be sorry for. It was a good question directed at something you saw on the altar.

  • I was just going to ask the same thing, but then I thought it may be already in the comments.. so no hand explanation it seem :)

    I hope you will make more videos soon! :)

  • This was very educational and very informative and such a beautiful set up. Thank you for sharing it with us Tubies.

  • You're welcome! I'll be doing another video at some point that outlines my personal altar.

  • That's wonderful new. I have learned about the Lycian tradition through your video, I didn't even know it existed, so this was great to see. I look forward to other videos about the tradition. Thank you so much.

  • Well, then, I guess I have to get off my lazy butt and make another one. ;)

  • I'm so glad I watched this video. I have become uncomfortable with the idea of having cultural gender roles represented on my altar as representation of the Goddess and God. I have been thinking about what would be a better way to represent them, without cultural gender roles getting into the mix. I don't know anything about the Lycian tradition, but I love the idea of red for blood of the Goddess and white for semen of the God. Interesting video, thank you so much for sharing.

  • I'm glad it makes sense to you. The Tradition tends to be a practical one.

  • Using red and white candles, the reasons behind them, very creative. Fights alot of the stereotypes/static forms we tend to see Dieties in. Its just the truth of the situation, it doesn't imply anything more than that, atleast thats how it hit me. I really like that idea.

    Thanks for sharing!! i really like your videos

  • Hey,could you explain to me what lycian wicca is all about?Ive never heard of it.Blessed be )O(

  • Thanks so much for showing the alter and explaining. :)

  • Thanks for sharing your altar with us.

    As you may have noticed by now, I am Pagan but, not Wiccan. Personally, I am a solo ceremonial magician using magical ritual for spiritual transcendence.

    Even so, my altar/shrine and yours are similar in many ways. And, of course, the mental mechanizations are just about the same.

    Peace.

  • How are our altars similar?

  • generally i really like it. but i am NOT digging the fake candles.

  • We have coven members with respiratory issues, so real candles that put out smoke and/or any sort of scent cannot be used.

  • Truth be told, I've loved the Lycian altar setup since I encountered it in my brief studies of the tradition. The only problem that I've encountered with it is that I resonate better with the Golden Dawn orientation rather than the Alchemical orientation.

  • It's all about what makes sense to you!

  • Great video! I love your altar. I am always interested in how different traditions set up the altar. I look forward to more of your videos. Have a wonderful day!

  • With Wicca, we don't worship objects either. Go figure. ;)

  • I really loved this. I like the representation of the God and Goddess candles the most. It personally made so much more sense to me, than the way I was doing it before. Very cool! I'm looking forward to more videos. :)

  • I'm glad it made sense to you. Our Tradition tends to have a very practical approach.

  • May I ask you..do you work with more than two deities? Do you ever incorporate deities into ritual that do not fit the "male" + "female" ratio? For instance say a classic example of Hestia and Dionysus. After all you have the God of Lust and Wine and then you have a Vowed Virgin House Deity...but somehow they work together...what would you do then? Just food for thought. ;-)

  • Our patron God is the Lamed God, our matron Goddess the Dark Mother. We don't call Deities from any particular culture as a general rule, but if we ever did, they would correspond with our particular archetypes. We don't believe in mixing pantheons.

  • That's a nice alter! :) It was interesting to hear the different quarters in your tradition.

  • Thank you! That tends to get the most comments, as it's not what is usually found in books (aka, the ceremonial magic setup).

  • Thank you! I'm very happy to see another viideo from you. Very good. Learned allot. :) More YouTubers should be as smart as you.

  • Boy, have I got YOU snowed. ;) Thanks for the compliment. I just share what I know; glad it comes across well.

  • Very beautiful, very interesting on your views :) Love the Thoth deck. Great video :)

  • My husband says he's owned that deck for about 30 years now. He has about 40 different tarot decks total.

  • Thank you for sharing your altar Seshen!

  • Very interesting. The elements and directions are different from what I've encountered anywhere else. Color me intrigued. :)

  • *grin* Better than "color me confused."

  • Very nice Seshen, well done, love it!!! Aprel

  • Thanx Seshen!

    Very informative! Glad you shared with us on the setup of the alter and why.

    Blessings,

    Dorin :D

  • Beautiful!

  • Well, I've received more formal instruction than most, and I've always gotten used to Invoking Air from the east with the wand, Fire from the south with the Athame, Water from the west with the chalice/cauldron, and Earth from the north with the stone/Pentacle. Is there any particular reason that the directions and associated tools are different in your tradition?

  • Yes, but it's rather complex (multiple reasons). We do go with the classic alchemical setup rather than the Golden Dawn that more people are used to. I'll be going into more detail in future videos.

  • What sort of formal instruction have you received, BTW? Is it in a particular Tradition?

  • Yes, Gardenerian, though I have yet to complete my year and a day.  I've been training with my High Priestess towards first degree.

  • That would explain the differences. We also have formal training, initiatory Degrees, but are not of Gard lineage. So ours isn't going to be the same setup. The most important thing is that it makes sense to you. It's nice to see someone getting structured training these days.

  • Really? Wonderful! May I ask who is training you at this point? Perhaps I know her. ;-)

  • Sorry, I don't talk about other members of my circle. Their story isn't mine to tell. Thanks for the interest tho.

  • Very cool! Thank you for sharing!

  • Wow, I didn't expect a comment so soon! Just got this one uploaded. Glad you liked it.

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