Thanks mark ive struggled for a year now trying to draw the ball and with this drill ive seen significant difference in my draw thank you so much and keep up the great work :)
Most instructors are saying you do your normal swing but aim your body and swing right of the target line and the club face stays on the target line. What is wrong with this conventional way?
i managed to stop the flight of the second ball you hit and it was directly over the bucket. When I hit a draw I just aim the clubface square to the target but swing more inside out which in effect closes the clubface. I suppose it's all the same principle though. I love you videos Mark best on here, how about shanking from the inside, any info? thanks
This isn't actually correct. The ball starts off on the clubface angle (80% ish depending on club and impact angle), the path to face angle difference dictates spin. The reason this works is because you intuitively know what you're doing as a good player and actually your clubface is slightly open relative to target line when you impact-if it was closed you would snap hook it
Hi Mark, seems like a good drill, surprised you didn't mention ball position. For me to get a reliable draw I move the ball somewhat back in my stance, and I turn my both my feet so they point somewhat more to the target, thereby encouraging the club face to square a little earlier. Net effect of both of these is a draw hit with a somewhat lower flight than normal.
sorry guys this isnt really about a draw/fade but if any of you have hit the CLEVELAND MASHIE HYBRID or the ADAMS IDEA TECH V3 HYBRID or better yet both which is more consistant in distance and ball flight and just overall easier to hit??? i have had bad hybrid purcushes before and i cant afford to have a couple more so please help!!!
Not a big fan of changing the club path. The best way for me to work the ball is to modify either my grip slightly on big turns, or modify my release using my hands to control the club face. Should do a teach your hands video.
@cockywatchman1976 There are a lot of feel golfers out there that can tighten there grip and face their top hand just right of the starting target line to produce a high fade. Conversely, the same players can begin to roll their hands with a looser grip to produce a slight draw. Try practicing this on the range with 3/4 swings. I think you'll surprise yourself.
@theMANxGOLFER I ke your point but I'd say two things to that. First you need an open face at impact for a draw (only slightly-it must be closed relative to the path though, just closed to the original ball target line). Second, with your proposed technique why rely on timing of rolling the wrists-death under pressure and not repeatable. Just close the clubface at address if that's what you want-swing as normal with a closed clubface-you will hook it though, unless the face is opened
@theMANxGOLFER Basically trackman tells us that using your technique you'd have to get it wrong to get the result you wish. Theres a huge difference between feel and do. You see tips all the time (like Tom watson's secret of the golf swing) which are essentially bad advice and /or wrong, but for some that FEEL prduces what they want
hey, i watched your vid on divots etc... when i strike the ball i top it every now and then or get in the ground to much, like i cant control my center of gravity... do you have any exercises i could do to fix this? thanks :)
hey, i watched your vid on divots etc... when i strike the ball i top it every now and then or get in the ground to much, like i cant control my center of gravity... do you have and exercises i could do to fix this? thanks :)
i think what mark did is what u said @pixedOff. pointing the clubface left while his swing path is more towards the right. its not possible to pull/hook if your club path is going inside out.
thanks for the great comments guys, you are both right. Modern club face club path rules state the ball starts where the club face is pointing. at 1:26 I say get your club face to contradict the club path, and the club face needs to point left of where the cub path is traveling. at 2:30 i say, " the club face needs to point left of the club path line. I do not refer to club to target line I always try to refer to club to club path line. Like you are both correctly saying. Great comment guys.
@pixedoff is right and that clearly shows in your video mark that when you hit the ball it' just went left and more left(hook) it wasnt right then a slight turn in left
the initial direction of the ball is dictated by the angle of the clubface. So basically a ball start right when the clubface at impact is pointing right (to the target).
The relation between clubpath and clubface gives sidespin, curvature to the ball.
So your clubface needs to be CLOSED to the clubpath to curve the ball from right to left.
Trying to close the clubface like you said will cause probably a pull-hook than a draw.
@pixedOff hanks for the great comments guys, you are both right. Modern club face club path rules state the ball starts where the club face is pointing. at 1:26 I say get your club face to contradict the club path, and the club face needs to point left of where the cub path is traveling. at 2:30 i say, " the club face needs to point left of the club path line. I do not refer to club to target line I always try to refer to club to club path line. Like you are both correctly saying.
@4golfonline I raised my objection based on what you say at 1:11 " start the ball to the right by swinging inside out" but i agree with you at 1:26 and 2:30. i thing the topic "How to hit a draw/fade" should be approached from two side: what "mechanically" creates a draw (clubface open to the target, closed to the swingpath) and what's the "feeling" about (swing to the right and close the clubface with hands). But this is just my opinion. Thanks Mark or sharing all these information with us!
@4golfonline Well, you should refer to target line as well, since golfers are trying to hit that target .. you should also be more precise in how much on face angel and path one will need for the required shot I think ... just closing the face to the path will make it go left, hitting it from the inside will NOT start it right (enough) !!!
@4golfonline Also rotating hands/wrists through impact isn't good-its so inconsistent. Why not just start with a closed clubface if thats what you want at impact-take the timing out of it?
Thanks mark ive struggled for a year now trying to draw the ball and with this drill ive seen significant difference in my draw thank you so much and keep up the great work :)
96keslerfan 1 week ago
Most instructors are saying you do your normal swing but aim your body and swing right of the target line and the club face stays on the target line. What is wrong with this conventional way?
2xtrbo 2 weeks ago
i managed to stop the flight of the second ball you hit and it was directly over the bucket. When I hit a draw I just aim the clubface square to the target but swing more inside out which in effect closes the clubface. I suppose it's all the same principle though. I love you videos Mark best on here, how about shanking from the inside, any info? thanks
jhaley12 2 months ago
please make a video to hit a fade
onkai 6 months ago
Hi Mark,
This isn't actually correct. The ball starts off on the clubface angle (80% ish depending on club and impact angle), the path to face angle difference dictates spin. The reason this works is because you intuitively know what you're doing as a good player and actually your clubface is slightly open relative to target line when you impact-if it was closed you would snap hook it
cockywatchman1976 6 months ago
Great video Mark! Can you do one on Fade as well?
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stingray11x 6 months ago
Hi Mark, seems like a good drill, surprised you didn't mention ball position. For me to get a reliable draw I move the ball somewhat back in my stance, and I turn my both my feet so they point somewhat more to the target, thereby encouraging the club face to square a little earlier. Net effect of both of these is a draw hit with a somewhat lower flight than normal.
samwinstanley73 7 months ago
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THERANDOMGAMEOVER 7 months ago
Will this drill work with your driver?
xKRISP3YxKRUNCH 7 months ago
sorry guys this isnt really about a draw/fade but if any of you have hit the CLEVELAND MASHIE HYBRID or the ADAMS IDEA TECH V3 HYBRID or better yet both which is more consistant in distance and ball flight and just overall easier to hit??? i have had bad hybrid purcushes before and i cant afford to have a couple more so please help!!!
zacitti 7 months ago
Not a big fan of changing the club path. The best way for me to work the ball is to modify either my grip slightly on big turns, or modify my release using my hands to control the club face. Should do a teach your hands video.
theMANxGOLFER 7 months ago
@theMANxGOLFER you cant hit a draw without changing path-if you just close face you hit a snap hook. Your technique cannot work, it's impossible
cockywatchman1976 6 months ago
@cockywatchman1976 There are a lot of feel golfers out there that can tighten there grip and face their top hand just right of the starting target line to produce a high fade. Conversely, the same players can begin to roll their hands with a looser grip to produce a slight draw. Try practicing this on the range with 3/4 swings. I think you'll surprise yourself.
theMANxGOLFER 6 months ago
@theMANxGOLFER I ke your point but I'd say two things to that. First you need an open face at impact for a draw (only slightly-it must be closed relative to the path though, just closed to the original ball target line). Second, with your proposed technique why rely on timing of rolling the wrists-death under pressure and not repeatable. Just close the clubface at address if that's what you want-swing as normal with a closed clubface-you will hook it though, unless the face is opened
cockywatchman1976 6 months ago
@theMANxGOLFER Basically trackman tells us that using your technique you'd have to get it wrong to get the result you wish. Theres a huge difference between feel and do. You see tips all the time (like Tom watson's secret of the golf swing) which are essentially bad advice and /or wrong, but for some that FEEL prduces what they want
cockywatchman1976 6 months ago
Hey Mark, I am having a problem. I have probably the worst slice ever and I can't seem to fix it. Can you make a video on how too?
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rocketp13 7 months ago
he is a golf professional. i think he knows what hes talking about
colew001 7 months ago
hey, i watched your vid on divots etc... when i strike the ball i top it every now and then or get in the ground to much, like i cant control my center of gravity... do you have any exercises i could do to fix this? thanks :)
MrSpydor 7 months ago 2
hey, i watched your vid on divots etc... when i strike the ball i top it every now and then or get in the ground to much, like i cant control my center of gravity... do you have and exercises i could do to fix this? thanks :)
MrSpydor 7 months ago 2
i think what mark did is what u said @pixedOff. pointing the clubface left while his swing path is more towards the right. its not possible to pull/hook if your club path is going inside out.
liquidzz7 7 months ago
thanks for the great comments guys, you are both right. Modern club face club path rules state the ball starts where the club face is pointing. at 1:26 I say get your club face to contradict the club path, and the club face needs to point left of where the cub path is traveling. at 2:30 i say, " the club face needs to point left of the club path line. I do not refer to club to target line I always try to refer to club to club path line. Like you are both correctly saying. Great comment guys.
4golfonline 7 months ago
@pixedoff is right and that clearly shows in your video mark that when you hit the ball it' just went left and more left(hook) it wasnt right then a slight turn in left
Taylormadegolffan 7 months ago
Sorry Mark but i think this is not correct:
the initial direction of the ball is dictated by the angle of the clubface. So basically a ball start right when the clubface at impact is pointing right (to the target).
The relation between clubpath and clubface gives sidespin, curvature to the ball.
So your clubface needs to be CLOSED to the clubpath to curve the ball from right to left.
Trying to close the clubface like you said will cause probably a pull-hook than a draw.
pixedOff 7 months ago
@pixedOff hanks for the great comments guys, you are both right. Modern club face club path rules state the ball starts where the club face is pointing. at 1:26 I say get your club face to contradict the club path, and the club face needs to point left of where the cub path is traveling. at 2:30 i say, " the club face needs to point left of the club path line. I do not refer to club to target line I always try to refer to club to club path line. Like you are both correctly saying.
4golfonline 7 months ago
@4golfonline I raised my objection based on what you say at 1:11 " start the ball to the right by swinging inside out" but i agree with you at 1:26 and 2:30. i thing the topic "How to hit a draw/fade" should be approached from two side: what "mechanically" creates a draw (clubface open to the target, closed to the swingpath) and what's the "feeling" about (swing to the right and close the clubface with hands). But this is just my opinion. Thanks Mark or sharing all these information with us!
pixedOff 7 months ago
@4golfonline Well, you should refer to target line as well, since golfers are trying to hit that target .. you should also be more precise in how much on face angel and path one will need for the required shot I think ... just closing the face to the path will make it go left, hitting it from the inside will NOT start it right (enough) !!!
BKLGolf 4 months ago
can you do putting for your next video
Ltheboss21 7 months ago
For your next video can you talk about putting. I'm having trouble with it, any tips?
minquack21 7 months ago
Thanks Mark been trying on the range with little success, will give this drill a try.
motty147 7 months ago
@motty147 great let me know how you get on
4golfonline 7 months ago
@4golfonline Also rotating hands/wrists through impact isn't good-its so inconsistent. Why not just start with a closed clubface if thats what you want at impact-take the timing out of it?
cockywatchman1976 6 months ago