THE PEOPLE IN FYROM BELONG TO SLAVS AND ALSO FYROMIAN LANGUAGE BASED ON SLAVIC ALPHABET LIKE RUSSIAN ETC. SLAVS CAME IN EUROPE IN MIDDLE AGES AND BECAME CHRISTIANS. GREECE HAS ANCIENT CULTURE IN THE AREA OF MEDDITERANEAN SEA. FYROM IS NEWLY ESTABLISHED STATE. WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SCOPJA AND ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIA?
obama is lying as he lied about born in the us. so don't believe anything he says. they are using you against serbia. stupid slavomacedonians. once stupid, always stupid.
SO,Fyromians say that Alexander the Great was a Slav, was speaking your poor language and that you are Macedonians..You poor people,feeling very sorry for your brains.How is possible that these people these historical gods being the same with you?You have no achievements,no culture,a country appeared in the map the last years and NOW saying you are Macedonians.You wankers will be the biggest joke of the history...this is an achievement at least!Well done! :) hahaha
Във всички документи и различните артефакти от епохата няма нито един, който да гласи, че Самуил е друго освен български владетел. Като македонец обаче е определен Василий II, който произхожда от византийската тема Македония, разположена в днешната област Тракия. Василий II (от династията на Македонци
Kiro Gligorov:'We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century (AD) we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians.We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia.A man who had several assassination attempts made against him to keep him silent by Skopian extremists, died at age94, a sad day for a man that knew the truth, sadly the Fyromians keep getting fed propoganda by Gruevski..from scandinavia!
You should not be strict with Fyromians. In Greece there are thousands of ancient monuments that cry out about Greece's incomparable history. On the other hand, the oldest thing in Scopje is the tree beside that one-year-old golden Alexander statue. It is also widely known that Fyrom is one of the ugliest countries. The most beautiful spot of the country is the road sign "To Greece" near the borders. Don't you feel pity for Fyromians?
@asfaehey We are not stupid like you not to embrace the help , butt when you said No to them about us in EU they fucked you up and now you country is in bankrot , we are muchmore smarter then you and we now how to play that game , dont worry if we were stupid they would not recognize us as country by her name macedonia
@macedonmk Are you sure they recognise you as macedonia???European countrys still name you as fyrom in all councils...You are just american puppets...and guess what...Your contrys economy is based on greece's financial interest...So if we fall you are next ;) ;) ;)
@asfaehey USA DOES recognize us as THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA,moron.As well as another 140 countries in the world out of almost 200.Which means already 2 thirds of the world refers to us by our constitutional name,whether you Gayreeks like it or not.Time works for us,soon enough bankrupt Greece will stand alone in it's vain cries and will eventually have to accept reality and make peace with it.As GNR say:all we need is just a little patience...
@dacki11 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA So peace is giving Macedonia to you????HAHAHAHAHAHAHA not even in your dreams...Oh let me see about what you said that 140 countrys recognise you is a big lie...1st in european councils you are still reffered as FYROM.2nd I have asked many other people from diff nations what they know about Macedonia...And all say that they know it as a greek region...Greece will soon be out of crysis so better stast crying bavk to your filthy nation Dickhead.MACDONALDS IS FYROM
@asfaehey The temporary reference is only used in INTERNATIONAL organisations like EU,NATO,UN,Partnership for peace etc.On a BILATERAL level there are around 140 countries in the world that refer to us as "The Republic of Macedonia" in the communication between the two countries,check it out yourself.Among them are USA,Canada,Argentina,Ireland,Mexico,Japan,China,Russia...In UN they refer to us as "FYR Macedonia" but in communication between us and them they use "Republic of Macedonia".Understand
@dacki11 my good man. your only history is that you have been slaves. and you gave the world the word slave (=slav). enjoy your stupid history you stupid sclavomacedonians.
@lokapos Hahaha,it means a lot coming from someone that's so egocentric that doesn't admit his ethnic "imputiry".Greece throughout history had fallen under Pesian,Roman(nearly 12 centuries),Ottoman (4 centuries) rule and has been raided by barbarians (Germanic tribes,Goths,Celts etc.),settled upon (Slavs,Roma etc.) and colonized many times and yet you still believe you're an "ethnically pure" Gayreek?Hahaha,your nation is a mixture of all of the above,malaka!Stop living in dreams...
@dacki11 well you must be really clowns. very funny. all talking and nothing to prove. this is all you do in sclavomacedonia. since you don't have anything else. no meaning to life. it is hilarious. I am enjoying this. to see you people with nothing to prove and still can't keep your mouth closed. how do you live like this over there? you must be really nothing. are you suicidal? I still laugh. BUHAHAHAHA!
@lokapos laugh as much as you like malaka,glad to amuse you.BTW everything is supported by FACTS,it's not hear-say and it's a result of events that took place in your gyps-land.See the migration of peoples throughout centuries through your country.Even when you gained your independence,a quarter of your population were Albanians,as confirmed by many sources(Johann Georg von Hahn,Alfred Philipsson etc).What else to say?And the Slavic names of toponyms in Pelloponese before Greek independence?
Fyromonkeydonians or MyASSandDONIANS now are claiming Moon from the Aliens.The third cousin of their prime minister mr GRUEVSKI , was cleaning the toilets of mr GAGARIN.
It is not the primary objective to argue whether the ancient Macedonians were a Greek tribe or not. Any serious historian will validate their Hellenic origin with scores of references as well as Greek inscriptions on countless ancient artifacts unearthed from all over the region
Okay I can see that this comment section is basically an all-out war between...well I don't know how Britain got involved by ByzantineRuler but nonetheless I will speak about Macedonia and Greece. First of all, no one is denying that Macedonia was a Greek tribe, history has proven that. However you do not have the right to forbid us access to NATO or force us to change our name. Macedonia will remain Macedonia because even if we lose everything else, we will remain proud of our country.
@TASSOS502 We may not be as strong in power and in comparison to other countries we may appear as a joke, and even though our politicians and organization is terrible to say the least, we do deserve a chance. You know what Greece would have been if not given chances or loans or whatever they needed? As messed up and unwilling as Macedonia. If nothing more at least we deserve a chance and then if we screw it up, you can openly mock us.
and to end shut your omnipotent foul mouths, read this :
Oh, and if you're Makedonians,you would know what Alexander himself said:
Alexander said to them:“Men of Athens,I give you this message that you must reveal only to Pausanias,or else you'll be responsible for my death.I would not tell you if I did not care so much for all Greece; I myself am by ancient descent a Greek,and I would not see Greece change her freedom for slavery. [...]
And lastly,for the love of fucking god,BEFORE trying to argue with the greeks saying your non existant arguments-lies, PLEASE find evidence from books OTHER than ur school one's in Fyrom. Cambridge for a fucking example?
And alexander means Alex= something that protects you and andras=man. Fyrom can't even READ ancient greek,nor will they ever be,since they are not greeks. They don't have the greek traditions either. So wtf? Persistance is bullshit when you're moving with no arguments.
I'm not saying that Fyrom people suck. I am friends with many of them nonetheless. However,they CANNOT comprehend that macedoniars were a freaking greek tribe. They SEE that this is a fucking propaganda which started from the fyrom government. It is a freaking BRAINWASH,exactly like how Hitler brainwashed german children into believing they were the "master race" or how the Japanese taught how US ppl were human-eating monsters,so they'd not betray them.
You know you have it completely backwards? Typical Greek. The idea of a united Macedonian clearly very obviously did not started by Fyrom! I can understand where you got this ridiculous idea, of course, as there was no significant assertion to Macedonian independance until it was given to Macedonia by the Serbians. It is till very faint. If there is any display persistant ignorance, it's the Greeks. Please get your evidence from reality, and not Greek propoganda.
@hoodle101 The IDEA and the whole concept of this propaganda started from Josip Broz Tito,unless you don't know. His motive was "oh well,what will we call these dudes down there who have no identity since they are late into the place? OH let's call em macedonians,who gives a fuck about history!"
And by the way,everything else you write in your comment is VAUGE and out of place. What are you talking about in the first place? Face reality of WHAT?Greek propaganda?What r u smokin' bro?
@hoodle101 I get my facts from ancient tablets,from ancient books from all over the world and documentaries in which historians place their opinions and judgements,not politicians. I'm not a muppet toy like you to eat anything they give off. Sorry man,but,I don't like controlled people :-) Typical Greek? I'd do the fucking SAME even if I was chinese or african or whatever,I HATE unfairness and politicians stealing anything from people,if that's history,money or anything else.
You hate unfairness? That's such garbage! I don't know anything about political propoganda except that espoused by the Greeks. I know the Greeks ploy - repeat and deny, then make half-thought out arguements, then continue to deny.
I'm guessing these ancient tablets are those +2300 year old tablets that said Macedonians were related to the Greeks. It was debatable even back then. 2000 years later, things have changed, but you want to throw all those years out the window!
@hoodle101 Like it or not,I hate unfairness,and there's nothing else to comment here. I'm talking about the Rosseta stone,smartass who knows nothing of history. And wtf? It wasn't debatable 2k years ago,IT WAS A FACT. You don't say " Um,it's debatable if the ancient greeks were greeks,some said they were chinese!" Scumbag. And what has changed? They were macedonians,being greeks,as alexander has said himself in his OWN letter. Please,if you want something,gief arguments.
Dude, don't put so many words in my mouth. I'd rather have a logical arguement rather than both of us sticking inside our own heads, capeesh?
First of all, saying I know nothing of history is a really bad arguement. I do know at least a little bit about history. But I'm do not know how the Rosseta Stone has anything to do with it. Please educate me on this.
I'm saying it was debatable because there are historical records of some Greeks saying the Macedonians were Greek, and
some said the opposite. You saying it was "fact" doesn't mean anything by itself. And if you don't want to make some silly chinese arguement, that's perfectly acceptable. But if suggest Greeks are somehow pure-blooded, that's a fantasy. The idea of genetic purity for any nation is simply delusion.
@hoodle101 Because somebody said otherwise doesn't mean that's true. Hitler said everyone sux except the perfect race,is that true? NO. In what wa y does you're argument stand anywhere? You cannot convieve the fact that macedonians were greeks because you are mind fucked from your capitalistic school books and television,blinded to do a research outside of what your government states.
I think the ancient Macedonians were very closely related to ancient Greeks. Records by Greeks from that era indicate some Greeks felt Macedonia was Greek, and some didn't. That is a historical fact, isn't it? That is what commentators of that time felt and thought. That is what I'm saying, it isn't an arguement.
And yes, I'm well aware just saying something doesn't make it true. Where did I imply otherwise? You're jumping to conclusions.
@hoodle101 Respect? You better shut your mouth since you don't know what you're talking about. ^_^ Why should i show RESPECT to somebody who is trying to steal my history out loud? It's the same if egyptians said they were macedonians. Alexander conquered them,but they were EGYPTIANS not macedonians. Plus,your race did not even exist in europe at the time.
Please don't fucking make me angry anymore and it's new years. Nothing will be solved from youtube since you're brainwashed. gd.
@naevan1 Which one, the ancient one??? The one that not Greece nor R.Macedonia has anything to do with??? And about the financial status of a country, ask @tuff253, since he is d one bragging with NATO............
After the Balkan wars (191213) the area of Macedonia under Greek rule was called ... the 'New territory' while the Ministry in Salonika was called the Ministry of Northern Greece. Whence such zeal to pre-empt the names 'Macedonia' and 'Macedonian' today when so recently they avoided them as the devil avoids church?"
@Manchevo I told about ancient historian,geographer and philosopher from BC and you telling me about someone 17 years later?Who is Panche?Sure Skopjan...The Slavic nations like yours Slavobulgarian nation,came to the Balkans in the 6 century AD.
@Manchevo Macedonia's former president Kiro Gligorov in the Toronto Star on March 15, 1992 said: "We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD)."
@Manchevo You do not have anything to do with the ancient Macedonians, the ancient Macedonians talking and writing Greek.Search it if don't believe me!
@ByzantineRuler Excuse me! Be careful of how you chat here. It's not just you and your chums who read your foul mouthed uncouth comments. It is a bit rich for you to claim that you own this that and other when you and your country has been exposed as being totally irresponsible with its finances. As far as I'm concerned, the majority of you are parasites. You own nothing!
and, the most parasitic people in world history are the Brits, who did not contribute anything to the world civilization but crimes, crimes and once again crimes against Africans of all kinds, Asians of all kinds and Americans
You british morons think you live still in the time of Queen Victoria
FREEDOM TO IRLAND AND SCOTLAN and especially WALES NOW!
@sonicstep The word WE means that greece indead is the 2nd investor in fyrom...your economy is based in greek economy wiht huge amount of invested money..if you dont believe go check..so this term is logical because greece gave lots of jobs overthere!fyromians show maps with thessaloniki being"yours"...who is threating "who"???complexic idiot too
@ByzantineRuler What is this ''WE'' thing??? Do you own those companies??? Do you really think that they care about you??? 2000 compa.. left greece..cause they wanned to feed somebody or cause of making money...hmmm..tricky.. : / And d other one..are you threatening in the name of NATO???
@LTJ588 The word WE means that greece indead is the 2nd investor in fyrom...your economy is based in greek economy wiht huge amount of invested money..if you dont believe go check..so this term is logical because greece gave lots of jobs overthere!fyromians show maps with thessaloniki being"yours"...who is threating "who"???complexic idiot
@socrates6068 Aaaand how is that conected with you..greece being investor in macedonia?? Who are you??? Nobody?? Go ahead, take them back...I just think they don give shit about you ;) So cut the crap with we gave you this, we,we,we..and if everything belongs to greece, then you should ask all the EU countries to change their name into greece. I believe once upon a time solun-thessaloniki did belong to macedonia. AND do not call me idiot you idiot and when I say idiot I mean idiot you idiot ;)
@socrates6068 Here somethin for you dumme svin ;) Erik Siesby,head of the Danish Helsinki Committee:We interviewed dozens of people in Florina,Meliti, Kelli,Lofi,Akritas and Aridea,including mayors,village presidents,the bishop and several priests,human rights activists and ordinary citizens.The climate of fear was striking;a large number of people asked not to use their names,for fear of losing their civil jobs- this is how great you greeks are ;)
@LTJ588 once upon a time thessaloniki indeed belonged to macedonia...not to you.you have the 20% of macedonia teritorry and greeks have 43% and you want call yourself macedonian??????you understand i think why you are idiot...little slavifski
@LTJ588 who am i?is not your business.i m talking about country of greece and i told some facts.indeed is the 2nd investor and indeed WE gave you lots of jobs.when i say WE i mean my country but you re a little bit idiot-ski.no we wont change any name and you will not do whatever you want with other s property.macedonia refers to greece thats why greece ordered you to put geographical term in name.because you have no right to call yourself chinese because you re not chinese,so with the same way
@LTJ588 you dont have right to call yourself macedonian because macedonian are greeks,,or spartan etc..you are slav totally so you should add this to your countryname for avoid missunderstandings...also "solun" its totally greek so the maps your idiot fyromians like you fix its a threat..and i dont think that a so small wannabe nation which being fed from greece for years has the right to threat...because first you cannot and furthermore you must be thankfull to greeks IDIOT.you are an idiot ;)
@ByzantineRuler This is a quote from Wolfgang Gerke, banking professor and president of the Bavarian Financial Centre - ""It just goes to show once again what a huge mistake it was not to throw Greece out of the euro zone at the start," after your silly country asked for a referendum on the latest aid package.
You will leave the EU, you will leave the Euro, and you will go back into the dark ages. Be ready :)
@pEtArCh0 Well learn history and then talk! Skopjans speak Bulgarian,Alexander the Great spoke Greek,how can the Skopjans believe that they are descendants of Alexander the Great?Alexander the Great said:''Men of Athens ... .. I would not say those words, if you do not care too much for Greece in general, because I am Greek from old and can not bear my soul to see Greece enslaved rather than free "... (Herodotus History, book IX, 45).
@pEtArCh0 I love to make people happy hehe.I do not care too much,when I know that everyone worldwide use Greek words with latin letter such as:music,history,erotic,theater,mathematics,crisis,philosophy,architecture,meter,kilos,organ,disc,fotos,fantasy,gigantic,ocean,exorcize,exotic,galaxy,dynamite,economic,academy,cosmos,ecstasy,euphoria,crystal,horizon,hysteria,idea,electric,plasma,harmony,hygiene,diabolic,icon,mania,micro,macro,acrobat,mechanic,melodic,orgy,myth,oxide and millions of others.
@LTJ588 You can find the etymologies(etymology of word etymology:from ἔτυμον(étumon),meaning "true sense",and -λογία (-logía),meaning "study"; from λόγος (lógos), meaning "speech, account, reason")of words also to Wikipedia. ;)
@panosunde :)))) Greece – from the Latin Gr�cus (Greek Γραικοί, claimed by Aristotle to refer to the name of the original people of Epirus, and Hellas “land of light” (a dubious claim, given that this resembles no Greek words for “land” or “light”).
@LTJ588 In Greece we don't use the names Greece and Greek,we use the names Hellada,Hellas and Hellenes.In ancient Greek mythology,Graikos was a hero, son of Zeus and Pandora.According to Aristotle "Greeks" were characterized initially by the Dorians in Epirus and in particular of Dodona. It is also possible to associate the name "Greeks" with the names "Graia" Boeotia and Euboea, and the "Agras" which was the name of Aiolos conqueror of Lesbos, according to Strabo (M 582) .
@LTJ588 Γραία,Graia(=old woman) called the goddess Demeter had that name as long sought Persephone having taken the form of old woman.Greeks may have migrated to Boeotia, where she moved and founded a colony in southern Italy in the 8th century BC (the other version is that the inhabitants of Boeotia Graia founded the colony of Cyme in Italy,native of Italy generalization called Greeks (Latin: Graeci) and is then spread in all the languagesof Western Europe.
@ByzantineRuler Number 1 foreign investor is Netherlands, Hungary, Slovenia, and then Greece..and what do you own? Banks. What a paradox. The world's least financially solvent and stable country owns banks haha. Listen buddy, I think you should worry about the dwindling state of ur country. You will be kicked out of the Euro within the next 2 years and your GDP will contract 40%!!! First 2 quarters ur GDP contracted -7.1% while macedonia grew +5.1%!! Talk all u want, statistics don't lie :)
@ByzantineRuler Maybe when you learn to speak and write in English we can communicate. As of now you are a disgrace to your people when you can't even articulate an answer. You think that by throwing out a plethora of swears and curses you'll be able to insult me or prove your point. However, it only further exemplifies your stupidity and the reason why Greece is in the state it is today. You are nothing but gypsies who without the EU would be the poorest nation in the Balkans.
Grow Up! You need USA to tell you who you are? Don't you see what NATO and USA have done to Balkans all these years? The wise thing to do is some genographic tests and see who is who. And the more wise thing is for the peoples of Balkans to stay United! Stop picking on each other listening to political lies of any kind, from any side...
@BasementPrince why dont you stick to your basement, ha? we dont need nobody to tell us who or what we are....we were Macedonians since ever, that is what we are, we know it and that is what we will always be!
@dimitardanailov I don't want to pick a fight dude. So please behave. I cannot convince you 'cause you were grown up with lies. I can't change that but I respect that. It's your right to believe that you are from Mars too. What you believe cannot change who you trully are. But first deal with the 30% (or more) Albanians that you have inside FYROM. And for the record... USA "love" Albanians more than you or us... We are not the enemies pal... We are on the same side...
@BasementPrince I`m not any dude to you, for sure...If you spoke for your self that you were raised with lies than you are 100% right! I`m truly what I am and what I believe I am, it is the same thing....Macedonian.
I didnt know that you are that good in statistics, since you know more than anybody in Macedonia that Albanians are more than 17%...but still this means you love them and encourage them to do harm or Christians! We can never be on the same side...until you recognize us who we are.
@BasementPrince Why do you think that you didnt grow up with lies 2? How may albanians are in Greece? How many arabs now? You must love Albania more the Republic of Macedonia since you help them to join NATO?
@LTJ588 It's not the same but you said it yourself one way or another. We have similar problems. In Greece the issue of legal/illegal immigrants is set up & serves some minorities to create national problems.Like Turkish minorities in Thrace.Or Arabs or Africans in Athens that decrease the standards of living. Historical issues & differences must NOT be a part of Nationalism or even violence. We helped you and Albanians financially we helped Turkey to be a part of the E.U. & this is what we get
@BasementPrince What do you mean you helped financially? I didnt know that Turkey is part of EU..since when? As for Albania, didnt Greece helped Albania to get in NATO in return not to recognise albanian minority in Greece? What do you call that? Greece does not have similar problems, but same problems..
@dimitardanailov nice point haha do you tell that to explain why you are macedonians!?!?!?learn to support what you say without flamming. I hope you somehow one day find your inner peace.
I`m Macedonian, because that is who I am, I was born Macedonian, my father is Macedonian, my grandfather was Macedonian and so on...simply that is who we are and you can not change that, no matter how much you try!
@ByzantineRuler (yawn)..natural gas huh? yet protesting in the streets like some barbarians. And don't throw the word ni**er around, cuz I'm sure if i took you to the bronx and you said that, you'd have a different appreciation for the word. Not strong enough to be a state but protected by your enemy..USA and Turkey. Macedonia has to do nothing but watch you destroy yourselves and Germans get so disgusted with you that they kick you out of the EU..then you'll go back to being the gypsies u r
@ByzantineRuler coming from a citizen of the most despised country in Europe. I'm sure the germans and the french are looking for an excuse to wipe ur sorry asses off the map
Genetics are not a balancing act, my friend. Get your percentages straight. The majority of Greece is mixed as well, and probably only has retained 35% of Ancient Greek genetics in 45% of the population.
Macedonia is on Greece idiot....Alexander was born in Pella and his father Fillipos died in vergina....Go in hell slavs....Go study history.....Macedonia is one and it is Greek....weather you like or not....if skopje wants to be told macedonia they do just for tourism....they want to sell condoms,cups,t shirts etc etc etc with alexander just to be something in the world but they will never be Macedonians!!! NEVER!
@ByzantineRuler TO MAKE YOU HAPPY, JUST REMING YOU THAT YOUR SHITTY SCUMHOLE COUNTRY IS BROOKKKKEKEEEEEEE BRROOKKKEE!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAhAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHA AND ONE MORE THING, THE PEOPLE WHO CLEAN MY HOUSE ARE GREEK HAHA CAUSE GREEKS HERE HAVE NO FURTHER EDUCATION THAN CLEANING SHIT OFF A TOILET!!!! HAHAHAHHA maaate, your so funny, you make stupid assumptions, cause im not a fucking import or refugee. unfortunately you are, you Ethiopian FUCK HEAD, go get raped up the fucking ass, just like your women deserve to be treated!!!!! OH AND BY THE WAY YOU CAN ALSO RESEARCH HOW HIGH THE PERCENTAGE IS OF GREEK PROSTITUTES THERE ARE IN AUSTRALIA. HAHAH
haha buddy thats where your a totally wrong, you dumb ass motherfucking piece of shit. my mum doesnt work for you, and get your fucking facts right, because half the population is not albanian you dumb ass cow. If your going to state facts get it right asshole, dont even try and act smart LMAO. im not imported, and i dont need to explain myself as to why i live in australia, mate greeks over heres look up to my family, none of them have a proper fucking education, if anything they work for me :)
@ByzantineRuler also, if anything you are the dogs, the SLAVES, your fucking country is broke what more can you say???? your poeple still work like fucking dogs AND YOUR STILL BROKEE!!! hahaha your women will prostitute themselves for some money, oh wait i mean, men...cause you cant tell what the fuck is a women in grecce, the men are either gay, or transvestites! hahahahahahah MOTHERFUCKERRRRRRR
stupid slaves
lokapos 4 days ago
patethic greek scum...U FALSED UR ENTRY TO EU AND NATO,u fucking turkish whores!!!SUFFER IT NOW.BURN GREECE BURN SLAVES
KillahTrax 4 days ago
Fuck you negrito...American bastard.Lokk at the dislikes of the video.
koskinas97 6 days ago
NATO? No thanks. Macedonia is better off without that crap. Besides, why would we want to be in a club with homo-reece?
TheGoose31 1 week ago
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THE PEOPLE IN FYROM BELONG TO SLAVS AND ALSO FYROMIAN LANGUAGE BASED ON SLAVIC ALPHABET LIKE RUSSIAN ETC. SLAVS CAME IN EUROPE IN MIDDLE AGES AND BECAME CHRISTIANS. GREECE HAS ANCIENT CULTURE IN THE AREA OF MEDDITERANEAN SEA. FYROM IS NEWLY ESTABLISHED STATE. WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SCOPJA AND ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIA?
marios936 1 week ago
obama is lying as he lied about born in the us. so don't believe anything he says. they are using you against serbia. stupid slavomacedonians. once stupid, always stupid.
lokapos 1 week ago
Fuck Obama! Fuck America! Fuck Vardarska!
Chris22697 1 week ago
@Chris22697 F*** Macedonia?
tozzila 6 days ago
The greeks are that retarded, so they spent all money on paying employees for them job "washing hands"! :)
HeartForMacedonia 1 week ago 4
Barakche Obamovski.........
HellenicMarine 1 week ago
SO,Fyromians say that Alexander the Great was a Slav, was speaking your poor language and that you are Macedonians..You poor people,feeling very sorry for your brains.How is possible that these people these historical gods being the same with you?You have no achievements,no culture,a country appeared in the map the last years and NOW saying you are Macedonians.You wankers will be the biggest joke of the history...this is an achievement at least!Well done! :) hahaha
tsitsijoker 1 week ago
FYROM forever!
biggordana69 2 weeks ago
WHATEVER THEY SAY. THE TITLE IS "FORMER YUGOSLAVIAN REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA"
ZIVE CRNE GORE
alemrad 2 weeks ago
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Μιλαει για την Μακεδονια και η USA... η χωρα των Mc Donalds, της πορνειας, της εγκληματικοτητας και των πολεμων...
chrispa0k1 2 weeks ago
Listen and cry babyyy-gayy from gayreece! :P
HeartForMacedonia 2 weeks ago
@HeartForMacedonia Νο need to cry...the world knows the truth about macedonia...even america but they are using you so that to control balkans moron
asfaehey 2 weeks ago
@asfaehey :P GUGUUU GAGAAA!!
HeartForMacedonia 2 weeks ago
@HeartForMacedonia Moron moron moron
asfaehey 2 weeks ago
Obama's pronunciation of Macedonia is completely different from Bush's
interesting...
ladomiroff 2 weeks ago
FUCK usa BASTARD SHIT I WISH RUSSIA WILL NUKE YOU!!!
MACEDONIA IS GREECE FUCK OBAMA!!!!
GreekArmy57 2 weeks ago
Macedonia=Greece, timeless
artemis20001000 2 weeks ago
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Във всички документи и различните артефакти от епохата няма нито един, който да гласи, че Самуил е друго освен български владетел. Като македонец обаче е определен Василий II, който произхожда от византийската тема Македония, разположена в днешната област Тракия. Василий II (от династията на Македонци
emilkol7 2 weeks ago
mak<3
internacenal 3 weeks ago
last word was - Fyromian prostitution.
Rome4SpartaGlory 3 weeks ago
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Kiro Gligorov:'We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century (AD) we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians.We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia.A man who had several assassination attempts made against him to keep him silent by Skopian extremists, died at age94, a sad day for a man that knew the truth, sadly the Fyromians keep getting fed propoganda by Gruevski..from scandinavia!
europetravel22 1 month ago
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You should not be strict with Fyromians. In Greece there are thousands of ancient monuments that cry out about Greece's incomparable history. On the other hand, the oldest thing in Scopje is the tree beside that one-year-old golden Alexander statue. It is also widely known that Fyrom is one of the ugliest countries. The most beautiful spot of the country is the road sign "To Greece" near the borders. Don't you feel pity for Fyromians?
thouvou13 1 month ago
that's why vardarskans leak obama's ass
zxzx191 1 month ago
we don't want NATO!we only want bulgaria!to be united again. united bulgaria!FYROM FOREVER!
biggordana69 1 month ago
@biggordana69 This what also greeks Say FYROM FOREVER and not macedonia
asfaehey 1 month ago
HAHAHAAHAHAHA AMERICANS ARE USING YOU BUT YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND WHY
asfaehey 1 month ago 16
@asfaehey are you talking about macedonias?lol
The95212 1 month ago
@The95212 I am talking about fyromians
asfaehey 1 month ago
@asfaehey We are not stupid like you not to embrace the help , butt when you said No to them about us in EU they fucked you up and now you country is in bankrot , we are muchmore smarter then you and we now how to play that game , dont worry if we were stupid they would not recognize us as country by her name macedonia
macedonmk 1 week ago
@macedonmk Your economy still depends on ours. With a greek embargo, you are destroyed!
Chris22697 1 week ago
@macedonmk it is our right to do everything we want with our economy! You should not speak because you arent better economically!
Chris22697 1 week ago
@macedonmk Are you sure they recognise you as macedonia???European countrys still name you as fyrom in all councils...You are just american puppets...and guess what...Your contrys economy is based on greece's financial interest...So if we fall you are next ;) ;) ;)
asfaehey 1 week ago
@asfaehey USA DOES recognize us as THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA,moron.As well as another 140 countries in the world out of almost 200.Which means already 2 thirds of the world refers to us by our constitutional name,whether you Gayreeks like it or not.Time works for us,soon enough bankrupt Greece will stand alone in it's vain cries and will eventually have to accept reality and make peace with it.As GNR say:all we need is just a little patience...
dacki11 1 day ago
@dacki11 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA So peace is giving Macedonia to you????HAHAHAHAHAHAHA not even in your dreams...Oh let me see about what you said that 140 countrys recognise you is a big lie...1st in european councils you are still reffered as FYROM.2nd I have asked many other people from diff nations what they know about Macedonia...And all say that they know it as a greek region...Greece will soon be out of crysis so better stast crying bavk to your filthy nation Dickhead.MACDONALDS IS FYROM
asfaehey 1 day ago
@asfaehey The temporary reference is only used in INTERNATIONAL organisations like EU,NATO,UN,Partnership for peace etc.On a BILATERAL level there are around 140 countries in the world that refer to us as "The Republic of Macedonia" in the communication between the two countries,check it out yourself.Among them are USA,Canada,Argentina,Ireland,Mexico,Japan,China,Russia...In UN they refer to us as "FYR Macedonia" but in communication between us and them they use "Republic of Macedonia".Understand
dacki11 21 hours ago
@dacki11 my good man. your only history is that you have been slaves. and you gave the world the word slave (=slav). enjoy your stupid history you stupid sclavomacedonians.
lokapos 1 day ago
@lokapos Hahaha,it means a lot coming from someone that's so egocentric that doesn't admit his ethnic "imputiry".Greece throughout history had fallen under Pesian,Roman(nearly 12 centuries),Ottoman (4 centuries) rule and has been raided by barbarians (Germanic tribes,Goths,Celts etc.),settled upon (Slavs,Roma etc.) and colonized many times and yet you still believe you're an "ethnically pure" Gayreek?Hahaha,your nation is a mixture of all of the above,malaka!Stop living in dreams...
dacki11 20 hours ago
@dacki11 well you must be really clowns. very funny. all talking and nothing to prove. this is all you do in sclavomacedonia. since you don't have anything else. no meaning to life. it is hilarious. I am enjoying this. to see you people with nothing to prove and still can't keep your mouth closed. how do you live like this over there? you must be really nothing. are you suicidal? I still laugh. BUHAHAHAHA!
lokapos 16 hours ago
@lokapos laugh as much as you like malaka,glad to amuse you.BTW everything is supported by FACTS,it's not hear-say and it's a result of events that took place in your gyps-land.See the migration of peoples throughout centuries through your country.Even when you gained your independence,a quarter of your population were Albanians,as confirmed by many sources(Johann Georg von Hahn,Alfred Philipsson etc).What else to say?And the Slavic names of toponyms in Pelloponese before Greek independence?
dacki11 18 minutes ago
Macedonia? Greece is already in the NATO. What is he talking about?
BigNick157 1 month ago 3
Really? :S
LTJ588 1 month ago
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Fyromonkeydonians or MyASSandDONIANS now are claiming Moon from the Aliens.The third cousin of their prime minister mr GRUEVSKI , was cleaning the toilets of mr GAGARIN.
gampcptn 1 month ago
WOW ! HAS USA OPINION? HAHAHA ! USA WAS DISCOVERED IN 1492 !
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
noobarxis 1 month ago
HE IS NOT OBAMA.HE IS A NEFELIM.
mechaproject1 1 month ago
WOW WHAT AN ALLIANCE YOU HAVE !!!! CLOSET NAZIS AND ARES LICKERS THE WORLD IS NOW A MUCH BETTER PLACE !!!!
RedBeretXXX 1 month ago
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It is not the primary objective to argue whether the ancient Macedonians were a Greek tribe or not. Any serious historian will validate their Hellenic origin with scores of references as well as Greek inscriptions on countless ancient artifacts unearthed from all over the region
FYROMSKI 2 months ago
How much money the greek lobby and emigrants spent to Obama's campaign ??
But I have to say that his pronunciation of Macedonia is terrible, but who care about that.
aaMACEDONIAaa 2 months ago
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If you want to know more look-up :
Diodorus,Plutarch,Pausanias,Livy,Herodotus,
Justin,Isocrates,Ptolemy,Demosthenes,
Arrian,Curtius Rufus and Stabo
Macedonia1ful 2 months ago
I didn't know they had computers in the Balkans. They sure don't have an educational system, that's for sure.
xxVampirePenguinxx 2 months ago
Okay I can see that this comment section is basically an all-out war between...well I don't know how Britain got involved by ByzantineRuler but nonetheless I will speak about Macedonia and Greece. First of all, no one is denying that Macedonia was a Greek tribe, history has proven that. However you do not have the right to forbid us access to NATO or force us to change our name. Macedonia will remain Macedonia because even if we lose everything else, we will remain proud of our country.
YugiohPro01 2 months ago
@YugiohPro01 why? it's not even a real country.......
TASSOS502 2 months ago
@TASSOS502 We may not be as strong in power and in comparison to other countries we may appear as a joke, and even though our politicians and organization is terrible to say the least, we do deserve a chance. You know what Greece would have been if not given chances or loans or whatever they needed? As messed up and unwilling as Macedonia. If nothing more at least we deserve a chance and then if we screw it up, you can openly mock us.
YugiohPro01 2 months ago 3
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and to end shut your omnipotent foul mouths, read this :
Oh, and if you're Makedonians,you would know what Alexander himself said:
Alexander said to them:“Men of Athens,I give you this message that you must reveal only to Pausanias,or else you'll be responsible for my death.I would not tell you if I did not care so much for all Greece; I myself am by ancient descent a Greek,and I would not see Greece change her freedom for slavery. [...]
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naevan1 2 months ago
And lastly,for the love of fucking god,BEFORE trying to argue with the greeks saying your non existant arguments-lies, PLEASE find evidence from books OTHER than ur school one's in Fyrom. Cambridge for a fucking example?
And alexander means Alex= something that protects you and andras=man. Fyrom can't even READ ancient greek,nor will they ever be,since they are not greeks. They don't have the greek traditions either. So wtf? Persistance is bullshit when you're moving with no arguments.
naevan1 2 months ago 22
Just this : watch?v=5SMJPPXsGEI
I'm not saying that Fyrom people suck. I am friends with many of them nonetheless. However,they CANNOT comprehend that macedoniars were a freaking greek tribe. They SEE that this is a fucking propaganda which started from the fyrom government. It is a freaking BRAINWASH,exactly like how Hitler brainwashed german children into believing they were the "master race" or how the Japanese taught how US ppl were human-eating monsters,so they'd not betray them.
naevan1 2 months ago
@naevan1
You know you have it completely backwards? Typical Greek. The idea of a united Macedonian clearly very obviously did not started by Fyrom! I can understand where you got this ridiculous idea, of course, as there was no significant assertion to Macedonian independance until it was given to Macedonia by the Serbians. It is till very faint. If there is any display persistant ignorance, it's the Greeks. Please get your evidence from reality, and not Greek propoganda.
hoodle101 1 month ago
@hoodle101 The IDEA and the whole concept of this propaganda started from Josip Broz Tito,unless you don't know. His motive was "oh well,what will we call these dudes down there who have no identity since they are late into the place? OH let's call em macedonians,who gives a fuck about history!"
And by the way,everything else you write in your comment is VAUGE and out of place. What are you talking about in the first place? Face reality of WHAT?Greek propaganda?What r u smokin' bro?
naevan1 1 month ago
@hoodle101 I get my facts from ancient tablets,from ancient books from all over the world and documentaries in which historians place their opinions and judgements,not politicians. I'm not a muppet toy like you to eat anything they give off. Sorry man,but,I don't like controlled people :-) Typical Greek? I'd do the fucking SAME even if I was chinese or african or whatever,I HATE unfairness and politicians stealing anything from people,if that's history,money or anything else.
naevan1 1 month ago
@naevan1
You hate unfairness? That's such garbage! I don't know anything about political propoganda except that espoused by the Greeks. I know the Greeks ploy - repeat and deny, then make half-thought out arguements, then continue to deny.
I'm guessing these ancient tablets are those +2300 year old tablets that said Macedonians were related to the Greeks. It was debatable even back then. 2000 years later, things have changed, but you want to throw all those years out the window!
hoodle101 1 month ago
@hoodle101 Like it or not,I hate unfairness,and there's nothing else to comment here. I'm talking about the Rosseta stone,smartass who knows nothing of history. And wtf? It wasn't debatable 2k years ago,IT WAS A FACT. You don't say " Um,it's debatable if the ancient greeks were greeks,some said they were chinese!" Scumbag. And what has changed? They were macedonians,being greeks,as alexander has said himself in his OWN letter. Please,if you want something,gief arguments.
naevan1 1 month ago
@naevan1
Dude, don't put so many words in my mouth. I'd rather have a logical arguement rather than both of us sticking inside our own heads, capeesh?
First of all, saying I know nothing of history is a really bad arguement. I do know at least a little bit about history. But I'm do not know how the Rosseta Stone has anything to do with it. Please educate me on this.
I'm saying it was debatable because there are historical records of some Greeks saying the Macedonians were Greek, and
hoodle101 1 month ago
@naevan1
some said the opposite. You saying it was "fact" doesn't mean anything by itself. And if you don't want to make some silly chinese arguement, that's perfectly acceptable. But if suggest Greeks are somehow pure-blooded, that's a fantasy. The idea of genetic purity for any nation is simply delusion.
Now how is that for fairness?
hoodle101 1 month ago
@hoodle101 Because somebody said otherwise doesn't mean that's true. Hitler said everyone sux except the perfect race,is that true? NO. In what wa y does you're argument stand anywhere? You cannot convieve the fact that macedonians were greeks because you are mind fucked from your capitalistic school books and television,blinded to do a research outside of what your government states.
naevan1 1 month ago
@naevan1
I think the ancient Macedonians were very closely related to ancient Greeks. Records by Greeks from that era indicate some Greeks felt Macedonia was Greek, and some didn't. That is a historical fact, isn't it? That is what commentators of that time felt and thought. That is what I'm saying, it isn't an arguement.
And yes, I'm well aware just saying something doesn't make it true. Where did I imply otherwise? You're jumping to conclusions.
Show respect, you're not a child.
hoodle101 1 month ago
@hoodle101 Respect? You better shut your mouth since you don't know what you're talking about. ^_^ Why should i show RESPECT to somebody who is trying to steal my history out loud? It's the same if egyptians said they were macedonians. Alexander conquered them,but they were EGYPTIANS not macedonians. Plus,your race did not even exist in europe at the time.
Please don't fucking make me angry anymore and it's new years. Nothing will be solved from youtube since you're brainwashed. gd.
naevan1 1 month ago
@naevan1
Faggot.
hoodle101 1 month ago
@hoodle101 Good job,now go back to ur tv and your teachers to brainwash you some more ^_^
naevan1 1 month ago
what the fuck does obama know about greece or macedonia , dick head obama can shove nato up his coloured ass
kaffir00 2 months ago
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watch?v=rdivqAf8zJo&feature=channel_video_title
CAKIMacedonian 2 months ago
stupid negro
Jindohin 2 months ago
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MONKEYDONIAAAAA
Y O U A R E S L A V S
STOP USE THE NAME OF MACEDONIA THIS NAME BELONG TO GREECE
aenaosdorieas 3 months ago
And you still knocking on EU/NATO's door. Dumb cunts.
tuff253 3 months ago
@tuff253 How long you think will that last?? If you dont pay (wich greece does not for some time) for being in NATO, isn't normal to be kicked out???
LTJ588 3 months ago
@LTJ588 What does the financial status of a country have to do anything with it's history being ripped off stolen ? :o
naevan1 1 month ago
@naevan1 Which one, the ancient one??? The one that not Greece nor R.Macedonia has anything to do with??? And about the financial status of a country, ask @tuff253, since he is d one bragging with NATO............
LTJ588 1 month ago
@LTJ588 I don't understand what your saying,when did i say something about ancient? :S
naevan1 1 month ago
Macedonia forever, thank you Obama
naivnna 3 months ago
@naivnna Yeah, cheers, another american ruler that does not matter. Morons.
ZX9Powa 3 months ago
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FYROM name your little country!
MACEDONIA is GREEK! a.s.s. ho.le.s!
YOU WILL NEVER BE GREEK!
ba.sta.rds!
djakis3 3 months ago
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After the Balkan wars (191213) the area of Macedonia under Greek rule was called ... the 'New territory' while the Ministry in Salonika was called the Ministry of Northern Greece. Whence such zeal to pre-empt the names 'Macedonia' and 'Macedonian' today when so recently they avoided them as the devil avoids church?"
dukikobra 3 months ago
dude you have messed up enough.
please stay away from Macedonia.
Even if Macedonia should join....
simplewesomeness 3 months ago
''Macedonia is also Greece''Strabo - philosopher, geographer and historian (68 BC - 20 AD)
panosunde 3 months ago
@panosunde "Macedonia is not Greece" Panche - philosopher, geographer and historian (1994 AD
Manchevo 3 months ago
@Manchevo I told about ancient historian,geographer and philosopher from BC and you telling me about someone 17 years later?Who is Panche?Sure Skopjan...The Slavic nations like yours Slavobulgarian nation,came to the Balkans in the 6 century AD.
panosunde 3 months ago
@Manchevo Macedonia's former president Kiro Gligorov in the Toronto Star on March 15, 1992 said: "We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD)."
panosunde 3 months ago
@Manchevo You do not have anything to do with the ancient Macedonians, the ancient Macedonians talking and writing Greek.Search it if don't believe me!
panosunde 3 months ago
watch?v=mIRe5tnqRKM
uoitofsogroj 3 months ago
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Very good video. Salute Obama! The sooner Makedonija joins NATO and civilizes the Greeks the better!
sonicstep 3 months ago
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sonicstep 3 months ago
@ByzantineRuler Excuse me! Be careful of how you chat here. It's not just you and your chums who read your foul mouthed uncouth comments. It is a bit rich for you to claim that you own this that and other when you and your country has been exposed as being totally irresponsible with its finances. As far as I'm concerned, the majority of you are parasites. You own nothing!
sonicstep 3 months ago 5
@sonicstep
watch?v=mIRe5tnqRKM
This is from british museum, let us known your kind comments
uoitofsogroj 3 months ago
@uoitofsogroj Didnt he write the script for the Alexander movie and he is in it???
LTJ588 3 months ago
Why dont you ask the British Museum?
uoitofsogroj 3 months ago
@uoitofsogroj I did...he did, he is in the movie and he made a lot of money..
LTJ588 3 months ago
and, the most parasitic people in world history are the Brits, who did not contribute anything to the world civilization but crimes, crimes and once again crimes against Africans of all kinds, Asians of all kinds and Americans
You british morons think you live still in the time of Queen Victoria
FREEDOM TO IRLAND AND SCOTLAN and especially WALES NOW!
uoitofsogroj 3 months ago
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@sonicstep The word WE means that greece indead is the 2nd investor in fyrom...your economy is based in greek economy wiht huge amount of invested money..if you dont believe go check..so this term is logical because greece gave lots of jobs overthere!fyromians show maps with thessaloniki being"yours"...who is threating "who"???complexic idiot too
socrates6068 3 months ago
@sonicstep we are not responsible of our financial. our politicians are responsible for that because they are masons and jews.
Chris22697 2 months ago
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@sonicstep we are not responsible of our financial. our politicians are responsible for that because they are masons and jews.
Chris22697 2 months ago
@sonicstep What is your nation mother fucker ?
gampcptn 2 months ago
@gampcptn Certainly NOT your mother's (('))
sonicstep 2 months ago
@sonicstep Whatever it is , stick it in your ugly ass,foxy lady.Speak like a man a not like a pussy.
gampcptn 2 months ago
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Viva la MAKEDONIA 4 all Makedonians but never 4 Greeks.
Devoj4E 3 months ago
@ByzantineRuler What is this ''WE'' thing??? Do you own those companies??? Do you really think that they care about you??? 2000 compa.. left greece..cause they wanned to feed somebody or cause of making money...hmmm..tricky.. : / And d other one..are you threatening in the name of NATO???
LTJ588 3 months ago 21
@LTJ588 SCREW ... YOU... DIRTY ....
yenary17 3 months ago
@yenary17 You should wash your mouth with soap sport ;)
LTJ588 3 months ago
@LTJ588 AND YOU SHOULD WASH YOUR ASS WITH TURPS SICK FUCK !!!!!!
yenary17 3 months ago
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@yenary17 :))))) Very bad linguage for 17 year old girl?? what you say Ramirez?
LTJ588 2 months ago
@LTJ588 The word WE means that greece indead is the 2nd investor in fyrom...your economy is based in greek economy wiht huge amount of invested money..if you dont believe go check..so this term is logical because greece gave lots of jobs overthere!fyromians show maps with thessaloniki being"yours"...who is threating "who"???complexic idiot
socrates6068 3 months ago
@socrates6068 Aaaand how is that conected with you..greece being investor in macedonia?? Who are you??? Nobody?? Go ahead, take them back...I just think they don give shit about you ;) So cut the crap with we gave you this, we,we,we..and if everything belongs to greece, then you should ask all the EU countries to change their name into greece. I believe once upon a time solun-thessaloniki did belong to macedonia. AND do not call me idiot you idiot and when I say idiot I mean idiot you idiot ;)
LTJ588 3 months ago
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socrates6068 3 months ago
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@socrates6068 Here somethin for you dumme svin ;) Erik Siesby,head of the Danish Helsinki Committee:We interviewed dozens of people in Florina,Meliti, Kelli,Lofi,Akritas and Aridea,including mayors,village presidents,the bishop and several priests,human rights activists and ordinary citizens.The climate of fear was striking;a large number of people asked not to use their names,for fear of losing their civil jobs- this is how great you greeks are ;)
LTJ588 3 months ago
@LTJ588 once upon a time thessaloniki indeed belonged to macedonia...not to you.you have the 20% of macedonia teritorry and greeks have 43% and you want call yourself macedonian??????you understand i think why you are idiot...little slavifski
socrates6068 3 months ago
@LTJ588 who am i?is not your business.i m talking about country of greece and i told some facts.indeed is the 2nd investor and indeed WE gave you lots of jobs.when i say WE i mean my country but you re a little bit idiot-ski.no we wont change any name and you will not do whatever you want with other s property.macedonia refers to greece thats why greece ordered you to put geographical term in name.because you have no right to call yourself chinese because you re not chinese,so with the same way
socrates6068 3 months ago
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@socrates6068 On the basis of the evidence obtained during the fact-finding mission,
Human Rights Watch/Helsinki has concluded that: * an ethnic Macedonian minority with its own language and
culture exists in northern Greece;
LTJ588 3 months ago
@LTJ588 you dont have right to call yourself macedonian because macedonian are greeks,,or spartan etc..you are slav totally so you should add this to your countryname for avoid missunderstandings...also "solun" its totally greek so the maps your idiot fyromians like you fix its a threat..and i dont think that a so small wannabe nation which being fed from greece for years has the right to threat...because first you cannot and furthermore you must be thankfull to greeks IDIOT.you are an idiot ;)
socrates6068 3 months ago
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@socrates6068 the Greek government has denied the ethnic identity of the
ethnic Macedonian minority in violation of international human rights
laws and agreements. This is evidenced by open statements by Greek
officials; by the government's denial of the existence of a Macedonian
language; by the government's refusal to permit a "Center of Macedonian
Culture;" and by the government's refusal in the recent past to permit the
performance of Macedonian songs and dances;
LTJ588 3 months ago
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@socrates6068 ethnic Macedonian political refugees who fled northern Greece
after the Greek Civil War, as well as their descendants who define
themselves as "Macedonians," are denied permission to regain their
citizenship, to resettle, or to visit northern Greece; in contrast, political
refugees who define themselves as Greeks are permitted to do so;
LTJ588 3 months ago
Oh.....RØVHUL!!!! ;)
LTJ588 3 months ago
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socrates6068 3 months ago
@LTJ588 :-0
socrates6068 3 months ago
@ByzantineRuler This is a quote from Wolfgang Gerke, banking professor and president of the Bavarian Financial Centre - ""It just goes to show once again what a huge mistake it was not to throw Greece out of the euro zone at the start," after your silly country asked for a referendum on the latest aid package.
You will leave the EU, you will leave the Euro, and you will go back into the dark ages. Be ready :)
nikolastip01 3 months ago
Greeks, you're in no position to despute the existence of any nation because your own nation is fake.
pEtArCh0 3 months ago
@pEtArCh0 Well learn history and then talk! Skopjans speak Bulgarian,Alexander the Great spoke Greek,how can the Skopjans believe that they are descendants of Alexander the Great?Alexander the Great said:''Men of Athens ... .. I would not say those words, if you do not care too much for Greece in general, because I am Greek from old and can not bear my soul to see Greece enslaved rather than free "... (Herodotus History, book IX, 45).
panosunde 3 months ago
@panosunde yes yes, whatever you say ;) noone takes you seriously
pEtArCh0 3 months ago
@pEtArCh0 I love to make people happy hehe.I do not care too much,when I know that everyone worldwide use Greek words with latin letter such as:music,history,erotic,theater,mathematics,crisis,philosophy,architecture,meter,kilos,organ,disc,fotos,fantasy,gigantic,ocean,exorcize,exotic,galaxy,dynamite,economic,academy,cosmos,ecstasy,euphoria,crystal,horizon,hysteria,idea,electric,plasma,harmony,hygiene,diabolic,icon,mania,micro,macro,acrobat,mechanic,melodic,orgy,myth,oxide and millions of others.
panosunde 3 months ago
@panosunde okay ;) i don't care
pEtArCh0 3 months ago
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@pEtArCh0 Do not answer then ;)
panosunde 3 months ago
@panosunde Well then we are all greeks, woohoo!!!!
LTJ588 3 months ago
@LTJ588 You can find the etymologies(etymology of word etymology:from ἔτυμον(étumon),meaning "true sense",and -λογία (-logía),meaning "study"; from λόγος (lógos), meaning "speech, account, reason")of words also to Wikipedia. ;)
panosunde 3 months ago
@panosunde :)))) Greece – from the Latin Gr�cus (Greek Γραικοί, claimed by Aristotle to refer to the name of the original people of Epirus, and Hellas “land of light” (a dubious claim, given that this resembles no Greek words for “land” or “light”).
LTJ588 3 months ago
@LTJ588 In Greece we don't use the names Greece and Greek,we use the names Hellada,Hellas and Hellenes.In ancient Greek mythology,Graikos was a hero, son of Zeus and Pandora.According to Aristotle "Greeks" were characterized initially by the Dorians in Epirus and in particular of Dodona. It is also possible to associate the name "Greeks" with the names "Graia" Boeotia and Euboea, and the "Agras" which was the name of Aiolos conqueror of Lesbos, according to Strabo (M 582) .
panosunde 3 months ago
@LTJ588 Γραία,Graia(=old woman) called the goddess Demeter had that name as long sought Persephone having taken the form of old woman.Greeks may have migrated to Boeotia, where she moved and founded a colony in southern Italy in the 8th century BC (the other version is that the inhabitants of Boeotia Graia founded the colony of Cyme in Italy,native of Italy generalization called Greeks (Latin: Graeci) and is then spread in all the languagesof Western Europe.
panosunde 3 months ago
@LTJ588 Hellas/Ellas is related to the word Helios/Ilios which is the word for the sun in greek. the sun gives off light, hence the connection.
JonathanGiann 2 months ago
@ByzantineRuler Number 1 foreign investor is Netherlands, Hungary, Slovenia, and then Greece..and what do you own? Banks. What a paradox. The world's least financially solvent and stable country owns banks haha. Listen buddy, I think you should worry about the dwindling state of ur country. You will be kicked out of the Euro within the next 2 years and your GDP will contract 40%!!! First 2 quarters ur GDP contracted -7.1% while macedonia grew +5.1%!! Talk all u want, statistics don't lie :)
nikolastip01 4 months ago
@nikolastip01
Here! Here! :))
Actually there is an interesting Channel 4 production here at YouTube titled: "Go Greek For A Week"
It demonstrates quite clearly how the Greeks unashamedly squandard the money that ECB gave them.
sonicstep 3 months ago
@ByzantineRuler Maybe when you learn to speak and write in English we can communicate. As of now you are a disgrace to your people when you can't even articulate an answer. You think that by throwing out a plethora of swears and curses you'll be able to insult me or prove your point. However, it only further exemplifies your stupidity and the reason why Greece is in the state it is today. You are nothing but gypsies who without the EU would be the poorest nation in the Balkans.
nikolastip01 4 months ago
Grow Up! You need USA to tell you who you are? Don't you see what NATO and USA have done to Balkans all these years? The wise thing to do is some genographic tests and see who is who. And the more wise thing is for the peoples of Balkans to stay United! Stop picking on each other listening to political lies of any kind, from any side...
BasementPrince 4 months ago
@BasementPrince why dont you stick to your basement, ha? we dont need nobody to tell us who or what we are....we were Macedonians since ever, that is what we are, we know it and that is what we will always be!
dimitardanailov 4 months ago
@dimitardanailov I don't want to pick a fight dude. So please behave. I cannot convince you 'cause you were grown up with lies. I can't change that but I respect that. It's your right to believe that you are from Mars too. What you believe cannot change who you trully are. But first deal with the 30% (or more) Albanians that you have inside FYROM. And for the record... USA "love" Albanians more than you or us... We are not the enemies pal... We are on the same side...
BasementPrince 4 months ago
@BasementPrince I`m not any dude to you, for sure...If you spoke for your self that you were raised with lies than you are 100% right! I`m truly what I am and what I believe I am, it is the same thing....Macedonian.
I didnt know that you are that good in statistics, since you know more than anybody in Macedonia that Albanians are more than 17%...but still this means you love them and encourage them to do harm or Christians! We can never be on the same side...until you recognize us who we are.
dimitardanailov 4 months ago
@BasementPrince Why do you think that you didnt grow up with lies 2? How may albanians are in Greece? How many arabs now? You must love Albania more the Republic of Macedonia since you help them to join NATO?
LTJ588 3 months ago
@LTJ588 It's not the same but you said it yourself one way or another. We have similar problems. In Greece the issue of legal/illegal immigrants is set up & serves some minorities to create national problems.Like Turkish minorities in Thrace.Or Arabs or Africans in Athens that decrease the standards of living. Historical issues & differences must NOT be a part of Nationalism or even violence. We helped you and Albanians financially we helped Turkey to be a part of the E.U. & this is what we get
BasementPrince 3 months ago
@BasementPrince What do you mean you helped financially? I didnt know that Turkey is part of EU..since when? As for Albania, didnt Greece helped Albania to get in NATO in return not to recognise albanian minority in Greece? What do you call that? Greece does not have similar problems, but same problems..
LTJ588 3 months ago
@dimitardanailov then why did you make this pointless video!?
grarosting 3 months ago
@grarosting i made it so you greeks can fuck yourself!
dimitardanailov 3 months ago
@dimitardanailov nice point haha do you tell that to explain why you are macedonians!?!?!?learn to support what you say without flamming. I hope you somehow one day find your inner peace.
grarosting 3 months ago
@grarosting no, you asked about the video...
I`m Macedonian, because that is who I am, I was born Macedonian, my father is Macedonian, my grandfather was Macedonian and so on...simply that is who we are and you can not change that, no matter how much you try!
dimitardanailov 3 months ago
@dimitardanailov no...it is what they told you you are.
grarosting 3 months ago
@ByzantineRuler (yawn)..natural gas huh? yet protesting in the streets like some barbarians. And don't throw the word ni**er around, cuz I'm sure if i took you to the bronx and you said that, you'd have a different appreciation for the word. Not strong enough to be a state but protected by your enemy..USA and Turkey. Macedonia has to do nothing but watch you destroy yourselves and Germans get so disgusted with you that they kick you out of the EU..then you'll go back to being the gypsies u r
nikolastip01 4 months ago
@ByzantineRuler coming from a citizen of the most despised country in Europe. I'm sure the germans and the french are looking for an excuse to wipe ur sorry asses off the map
nikolastip01 4 months ago
@nikolastip01 like!
dimitardanailov 4 months ago
@ByzantineRuler
Genetics are not a balancing act, my friend. Get your percentages straight. The majority of Greece is mixed as well, and probably only has retained 35% of Ancient Greek genetics in 45% of the population.
ImagoCanis 4 months ago
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Macedonia is on Greece idiot....Alexander was born in Pella and his father Fillipos died in vergina....Go in hell slavs....Go study history.....Macedonia is one and it is Greek....weather you like or not....if skopje wants to be told macedonia they do just for tourism....they want to sell condoms,cups,t shirts etc etc etc with alexander just to be something in the world but they will never be Macedonians!!! NEVER!
politexnitis4 4 months ago
@ByzantineRuler
ΠΕΣ ΤΑ ΣΤΙΣ ΠΟΥΤΑΝΕΣ ΓΙΑΤΙ ΠΟΛΛΗ ΦΟΡΑ ΠΗΡΑΝ
IF YOU THINK THAT MACEDONIA IS NOT GREEK THEN ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ HER MΑΛΑΚΕΣ
LanRous 4 months ago
Respond to this video... GREECE IS BROKE MOTHERFUCKER
ke91100 4 months ago
Respond to this video... BROOOOOOOOKKKKEEE
ke91100 4 months ago
@ByzantineRuler TO MAKE YOU HAPPY, JUST REMING YOU THAT YOUR SHITTY SCUMHOLE COUNTRY IS BROOKKKKEKEEEEEEE BRROOKKKEE!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAhAHAHAHAHAHA
ke91100 4 months ago
HAHA AND ONE MORE THING, THE PEOPLE WHO CLEAN MY HOUSE ARE GREEK HAHA CAUSE GREEKS HERE HAVE NO FURTHER EDUCATION THAN CLEANING SHIT OFF A TOILET!!!! HAHAHAHHA maaate, your so funny, you make stupid assumptions, cause im not a fucking import or refugee. unfortunately you are, you Ethiopian FUCK HEAD, go get raped up the fucking ass, just like your women deserve to be treated!!!!! OH AND BY THE WAY YOU CAN ALSO RESEARCH HOW HIGH THE PERCENTAGE IS OF GREEK PROSTITUTES THERE ARE IN AUSTRALIA. HAHAH
ke91100 4 months ago
haha buddy thats where your a totally wrong, you dumb ass motherfucking piece of shit. my mum doesnt work for you, and get your fucking facts right, because half the population is not albanian you dumb ass cow. If your going to state facts get it right asshole, dont even try and act smart LMAO. im not imported, and i dont need to explain myself as to why i live in australia, mate greeks over heres look up to my family, none of them have a proper fucking education, if anything they work for me :)
ke91100 4 months ago
@ByzantineRuler also, if anything you are the dogs, the SLAVES, your fucking country is broke what more can you say???? your poeple still work like fucking dogs AND YOUR STILL BROKEE!!! hahaha your women will prostitute themselves for some money, oh wait i mean, men...cause you cant tell what the fuck is a women in grecce, the men are either gay, or transvestites! hahahahahahah MOTHERFUCKERRRRRRR