Interesting how she said a clear long O in "of," very British English but not American English, with our lazy mouths that favor the short u (schwa) sound.
@Christobanistan Say it real quickiy in a real quick sentence and it pops up, which seems pretty minor to an English speaker but to a learner it could confuse the heck out them. Of course, it's more a British thing, and depending on what part I guess too. At least, we Aussies sort of say "ðæh" instead when speaking fast.
Heh, I was dealing with a topic of reforming English spelling, and since one of the schema was to match each vowel to a unique character, this came up. For me, a lot of words pronounced here with ə I pronounce with ʌ (like "a", "the", etc.). Strangely, I think I pronounced the schwa in a couple of places it normally isn't pronounced (e.g. "girl').
I guess if there were to be a phonetic English spelling we'd have to get kinks like that out. :x
Nice vid! You're not weird, some of these people have probably never seen someone with class before. Cake looks good. People seem to have missed that the word "that" is so often pronounced with schwa depending on it's position in the sentence, even for Australians. Of course when you say it alone the schwa isn't there, just like when you say "a" or "of". The internet is desperately short of good British pronunciation vids so please keep it up!
@potentperson I'm glad you like it. I can't take credit as it is a BBC produced video. I uploaded it as I thought it would be useful for my students. It's interesting that the schwa video has received far more attention than any of the other phoneme vids.
Maybe you don't care, but I'm not a native English speaker and I hear both of you (American and British English) use the schwa all the time. And I say this for those who say that the schwa is not common in AmE.
America for me sounds like this "əMERikə"
At least for me, the "ʌ" occurs in the same words than "ə" but in stressed ones. Or when you want to emphasise that specific word.
And I agree that "that" doesn't have a schwa sound.
(Sorry if I made mistakes but I'm still learning English)
I'm an Australian and here we pronounce "that" and "of" without using the schwa sound. I suppose it comes down to dialects, within even British English.
is something wrong with that lady?! the way she's acting i found really strange! guess she's in some way an educator - why don't she behave like one? I cannot even imagine if there is anyone who might consider her as a funny person... maybe a 12 year old dump kid... it's pathetic...
But what is the difference between ə and ʌ. does all shwa sound the same.
for example in the word banana (bə ˈnɑːn ə) does the shwa at "bə" sound the same as the last shwa in "n ə"? For me the last shwa sounds more close to ɑ.
american english is grammatically wrong, if you dont believe me, try and say; "car park" with an american accent. the british accent is the only accent that can properly prenounce every word in its language properly. (also try saying "ditto" and prenounce the t's as "tee", most americans would prenounce it "diddo")
I wasn't making any judgement of American or English pronounciation, I was simply stating a truth, we do not use the schwa as frequently, for example, in American english Comm(i)n vs Commən, Th(a)t vs Thət, butt(u)r vs. Buttə ect. I have a degree in american stenography and my livelyhood depends on knowing when to strike an ə or an a, i, o, ect, since the schwa has no distinct spelling. By the way American english woudn't be grammatically wrong it would be Phoneticaly wrong.
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VoltageEntertainment 10 months ago
Interesting how she said a clear long O in "of," very British English but not American English, with our lazy mouths that favor the short u (schwa) sound.
LovelyLoper 1 year ago
wow, I am freezing over here.
British jokes are just as cold as their reactions.
mosyemessy 1 year ago
thut?? WTF?
Christobanistan 1 year ago
@Christobanistan Say it real quickiy in a real quick sentence and it pops up, which seems pretty minor to an English speaker but to a learner it could confuse the heck out them. Of course, it's more a British thing, and depending on what part I guess too. At least, we Aussies sort of say "ðæh" instead when speaking fast.
chrissomerry 1 year ago
Heh, I was dealing with a topic of reforming English spelling, and since one of the schema was to match each vowel to a unique character, this came up. For me, a lot of words pronounced here with ə I pronounce with ʌ (like "a", "the", etc.). Strangely, I think I pronounced the schwa in a couple of places it normally isn't pronounced (e.g. "girl').
I guess if there were to be a phonetic English spelling we'd have to get kinks like that out. :x
denus0123 1 year ago
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denus0123 1 year ago
Nice vid! You're not weird, some of these people have probably never seen someone with class before. Cake looks good. People seem to have missed that the word "that" is so often pronounced with schwa depending on it's position in the sentence, even for Australians. Of course when you say it alone the schwa isn't there, just like when you say "a" or "of". The internet is desperately short of good British pronunciation vids so please keep it up!
potentperson 1 year ago
@potentperson I'm glad you like it. I can't take credit as it is a BBC produced video. I uploaded it as I thought it would be useful for my students. It's interesting that the schwa video has received far more attention than any of the other phoneme vids.
GGTutor1 1 year ago
Maybe you don't care, but I'm not a native English speaker and I hear both of you (American and British English) use the schwa all the time. And I say this for those who say that the schwa is not common in AmE.
America for me sounds like this "əMERikə"
At least for me, the "ʌ" occurs in the same words than "ə" but in stressed ones. Or when you want to emphasise that specific word.
And I agree that "that" doesn't have a schwa sound.
(Sorry if I made mistakes but I'm still learning English)
arwenfrann 1 year ago
I'm an Australian and here we pronounce "that" and "of" without using the schwa sound. I suppose it comes down to dialects, within even British English.
mbncd 2 years ago
is something wrong with that lady?! the way she's acting i found really strange! guess she's in some way an educator - why don't she behave like one? I cannot even imagine if there is anyone who might consider her as a funny person... maybe a 12 year old dump kid... it's pathetic...
alable1 2 years ago
Nice work
adult626 2 years ago
I'm sorry but I don't agree that "that" should be pronounced with the schwa sound.
thejoymonster 2 years ago
Very good!
But what is the difference between ə and ʌ. does all shwa sound the same.
for example in the word banana (bə ˈnɑːn ə) does the shwa at "bə" sound the same as the last shwa in "n ə"? For me the last shwa sounds more close to ɑ.
biniandbini 2 years ago
I don't think we use Schwa as frequently in american english
Flutenatic 2 years ago
american english is grammatically wrong, if you dont believe me, try and say; "car park" with an american accent. the british accent is the only accent that can properly prenounce every word in its language properly. (also try saying "ditto" and prenounce the t's as "tee", most americans would prenounce it "diddo")
brainac0cult 2 years ago
I wasn't making any judgement of American or English pronounciation, I was simply stating a truth, we do not use the schwa as frequently, for example, in American english Comm(i)n vs Commən, Th(a)t vs Thət, butt(u)r vs. Buttə ect. I have a degree in american stenography and my livelyhood depends on knowing when to strike an ə or an a, i, o, ect, since the schwa has no distinct spelling. By the way American english woudn't be grammatically wrong it would be Phoneticaly wrong.
Flutenatic 2 years ago
very good .
but could you tell me what situation
the vowels will be made a schwa soud??
gongfubaby 3 years ago
The schwa should be produced practically every time a syllable is unstressed, having a weak pronunciation.
xdennisanderson 2 years ago