Bayless is so stupid, he's funny. BTW, when was the last time Brady made a comeback with less than 2minutes in a meaningful game? That's what I thought, YEARS!!
@jamatune22 come talk to me when Aaron Rodgers can say that he has 3 SB rings, 2 SB MVP's, and 2 NFL MVP's.... Maybe if Rodgers would've spent more time practicing with his team rather than making stupid ass commercials he would've been that much closer to being the best, but, he didn't. Rodgers has a long way to go before he can catch up to Tom Brady....
@bigD2387 thats wat i meant dumbass and brady didnt win those superbowls the cheating pats did and both rodgers and brady are overated. manning is where it at bitchass dumbfuck
@jamatune22 did you hear me once say Brady or Rodgers WASN'T overrated???? no. i never said they weren't, because I know they are. All I'm saying, is that Rodgers is NOT on Brady's level right now, and he's got a long way to go before he is. Never said anything about them not being overrated, and never said anything about Manning either....
@bigD2387 The Packers were 1 penalty call away from being tied for the most penalties in the NFL and you say the refs helped us to a 15-1 season. LMAO!! Try again, dumbass. I love making you idiot Patriots fans look stupid. You make it so easy.
@bigD2387 The 1st ring and 1st SB MVP should never have happened because the Patriots should have lost to the Raiders in the first round. The refs helped them win that game and give them the chance to get to the Super Bowl. How the hell does having 145 passing yards and 1 TD earn you SB MVP too? That's bullshit. We all know about Spygate too. Was there any controversy about Rodgers's Super Bowl run? No. He plays for an organization that doesn't need to cheat to win.
@GreenDay1981 If you can't even except the fact that the Pack kissed the refs ass to a 15 win season you are obviously nothing but a packer fanboy.Every time they fucked up they'd suck the refs dick for a flag.The refs even tried to help you win the playoff game against the Giants.Saying that fumble on that punt wasn't a fumble when it clearly was. Or saying that when Rodgers threw that incomplete that it was a late hit,when it wasn't. Go jack off to your Clay Matthews fathead you fuckin queer
@bigD2387 You said the refs helped the Packers to a 15-win season but all you talked about was the playoff game. How did they help them in the regular season? Answer that, dumbfuck. Again, a Patriots douche has no room to talk about the refs helping anyone else in the playoffs. Maybe if Brady spent more time focusing on the game instead of trying to fight his own offensive coordinator, he wouldn't have been shitty in the playoffs. Fuck Brady and fuck you Patriot bandwagon douchebags.
@GreenDay1981 all season dumbass. ALL SEASON they kissed the refs ass. Not just that Giants playoff game. How did they help them in the regular season??? the first Giants game. The last game of the season against the Lions, it was so blatantly obvious who the refs were favoring. The game against San Diego. Every close game they had. If it wasn't for the refs they would've lost at least 3 games. It doesn't surprise me that the only one who questions how the refs helped them is a packtard... lol
@bigD2387 I love how you bring up random games but sight no examples of so-called "favoring" by the refs. Again, the Packers were one of the most penalized teams in the NFL, dumbfuck. Do you have memory loss? I brought up that bullshit call against the Raiders in 01 and Spygate. This year, there was questionable actions by the scoreboard operator in the Ravens game. Those are facts for your stupid ass.
@GreenDay1981 there are people on the ravens who get paid plenty of fucking money to keep track of what down it as and how much time is left on the clock. even the ravens coach said it had no effect on the outcome.
it's amusing how you only believe the stuff you find convenient to believe, like believing that the pats are heartless assholes and the packers are god's gift to football. instead of doing actual research and forming an objective opinion on your own.
@GreenDay1981 yeah reason based arguments with supporting evidence is real convenient isn't it? not that you'd know, trolls don't know how to do those things
@binarystar300 Are you really this clueless? Hating the Patriots has become as popular as hating the Yankees. You don't have to be a Red Sox fan to hate the Yankees. If they can win a Super Bowl honestly like the Ravens, Buccaneers, Colts, and Packers, maybe they wouldn't be so hated. Take your welfare check and buy a clue.
@GreenDay1981 people don't hate those teams BECAUSE they don't win championships often. and just because a lot of teams hate the pats doesn't mean they have good reasons to. the pats have very little in common with the yanks, they don't buy championships they earn them.
if the pack ever won 3 championships in 4 years during your life i guarantee they'll be universally hated. get off your high horse you egotistical prick
@binarystar300 The Patriots had ZERO championships before 2001 so I wouldn't say THEY win them often. The Patriots earn championships? So earning means help from the refs and illegally videotaping the opposing defense? If that's considered earning a championship, I would rather we not "earn" ours.
@GreenDay1981 it must be fun living in a world where only the pats break the rules and every other team, especially the packers, earn their championships. bill cowher and jimmy johnson have both been quoted on radio saying they stole signals and felt no remorse in doing so. hell dom capers was on the pats staff in 08, he stole signals with us and i guarantee he does it as your defensive coordinator. yet i don't consider the pack or the pats cheaters and neither should you
@binarystar300 If Capers was stealing signals, it obviously didn't help considering we had the worst defense in the NFL. I love how you try to justify your coach's actions by bringing up 2 coaches admitting to it AFTER THEY HAVE RETIRED. That's like saying Saddam Hussein shouldn't be hated for his crimes because other dictators were just as ruthless or even more so than he was.
@GreenDay1981 worst defense in total yards maybe, but you guys were 1st in defensive turnovers and nearly top ten in points allowed. you guys won the superbowl with a similar defense last year. you just can't bear to call yourself a hypocrite by admitting capers probably stole
your other argument makes no sense. a coach wouldn't face anymore scrutiny to admitting to stealing signals whether he's retired or active. idk why the fuck you compared them to saddam either that was weird.
@binarystar300 Nearly top 10? Being ranked 19th in points allowed is nearly top 10? Idiot. The Patriots gave up fewer points per game than the Packers. The defense this year was nothing like it was the year before. It was ranked 2nd in the NFL in 2010. Big difference. Who was fined for Spygate? Was it Capers or Belicheat? Yeah, fuck off. If you can't see why I made that comparison, you're too stupid for words. You also need to learn what the term hypocrite means.
@GreenDay1981 19th still isn't dead last like you implied. you need to relax i just used what was at the top of my head. i don't think the player turnover (what i meant) on defense was much different, just their performance. comparing a nfl coach to an iraqi dictator is both weird and random no matter the context.
not everyone who was on roids in baseball was caught or suspended. does that mean the others are innocent? same with filming. don't get your panties in a bunch troll
@binarystar300 It's not nearly in the top 10 either like you claimed. I knew the comparison would go right over your empty head. I implied that just because other people did it doesn't make it right. Get it now?
@GreenDay1981 your nitpicking is irritating, i already explained the overall point i was trying to make about the packers defense being better statistically than you claimed and how it related to capers and his knowledge of signal stealing. what this means to you, however, is that you have no right to criticize signal stealing when the pack and other teams do it as well. unless you want to call yourself a cheater, which i'm guessing you don't. get it now?
@binarystar300 You didn't explain shit. How would it make any sense for a defensive coordinator to videotape the opposing DEFENSE? So now the Packers do it? Do you have proof of this? No of course not. You're just going on the fact that our defensive coordinator was on the cheating Patriots before. Yeah real brilliant evidence there, Cochran. I guess since Jim Tressel is on the Colts's staff now, it must mean Colts players are selling merchandise for tattoos.
@GreenDay1981 you still haven't proved to me or anyone that videotaping was the determining factor for why the pats won their superbowls. cowher and johnson said they did it. why is it that no former coaches have stated that the pats cheated to win their superbowls? did they lie? if so, what was their incentive to doing so? and goodel's sanctions do not prove that cheating occured. it was a pr stunt for all you know.
@GreenDay1981 i have met some stubborn people in my day, but you take the cake. i actually looked at your argument and considered their validity in the beginning. that article about videotaping being legal from end zone to end zone was something you showed me and i learned something from it. i know this is the internet, but it would be courteous to acknowledge some arguments from your opponent. i just don't know why you're so angry/stubborn :(
@bigD2387 i like how when people criticize the packers nfl fans in general try to crucify you, but criticizing the pats is socially acceptable. i also notice the patriots hate really started to pick up as soon as the pats made the superbowl this year. and greenday1981 is a little insecure so try not to hurt his feelings too much
@GreenDay1981 you just don't know when to stop talking do you? talk to me in five years when you've grown up and maybe we can have a big boy conversation
@GreenDay1981 you're short-term memory must be weak because i addressed that issue. i had presented an argument with evidence, you presented a counter-argument with evidence, and neither of us changed our opinions. why waste my time saying the same thing to you again?
if all packer fans are annoying insecure trolls like you then i've lost a lot of respect for your fanbase
@GreenDay1981 the last thing i'll say about cameragate is that goodel destroyed the tapes instead of releasing them to the media. that was the only hard evidence you could have used to make a justifiable case about the patriots breaching the integrity of the game. personally i wish the tapes weren't destroyed so i could prove with certainty that this was the most overblown sports scandel in the last 10 years or so.
now stop wasting my time, the packers lost this year handle it
@binarystar300 They were videotaped signals. Why the hell would he release them to the media? So every NFL team can see what the signals are? Common sense, dude. You should try it.
@GreenDay1981 well troll teams change their signals from game-to-game. why? because it is still legal to write them down on paper or videotape them from end zone to end zone. if teams didn't change them, other teams would be aware of the signals and have a big advantage (especially division opponents). goodel releasing the tapes would shed light onto the "scandel" while yielding no advantage to anyone. btw goodel's memo to the league about taping didn't happen until 2006
@bigD2387 how soon you forget that Brady the Crybaby and the Cheatriots CHEATED to win those 3 SBs, and are exactly 0-2 in the SB since the league decided they can't film anymore, so it means nothing! Playoff stats: Rodgers, 4-2 in the playoffs, 105.5 all time playoff passer rating, 1-0 in SB Brady the Crybaby: 4-4 record in the playoffs (with those wins against .500 teams and because of the refs, respectively), 86.5 passer rating, 0-2 in the SB since Spygate *when it counts.
why does he talk shit about rodgers for not having alot of comebacks??shouldnt he be praising him for never being behind in a game haha. hes hating on him because he blows out teams in the 1st 3 quarters and the packers bring in flynn for garbage time haha skip bayless is a whiny little cunt. rodgers=best qb in the league
@godsboss24 Agreed. He bags on Rodgers not having a lot of comebacks when he hasn't even been in the position to NEED a comeback very often, yet he brown-noses Tim Tebow, a guy that plays like shit for the first 3 quarters but then suddenly figures out how to play football in the 4th quarter. I would rather have a QB that plays well all 4 quarters than one that only does well in the 4th. Wonder how many times the Broncos defense will bail Tebow out next season.
Hey Shit Bayless, Rodgers has won his first career MVP. Can't wait to hear you bitch about it on Monday's First Take. That is, after you get done brown-nosing whoever wins the Ego Bowl.
where was brady against the ravens? 2 picks and no touchdowns, yeah he really steps up under pressure, a missed field goal and dropped touchdown got them into the super bowl, it was Baltimores game. so eat a fat 1 skip your bum buddy brady is gonna get sacked galore against the giants, pierre paul gonna munch his ass up! fuck the patriots
@Pgaither84 all my points were true, anyone with half a brain knows lebron and adrian petersen are 2 of the best athletes in sport, yet skip bags on them cause there good, he says things for shock value, so yes i am right moron
The Giants buried the Packers along with the "cheating" referees 37-20! Now their fans got hurt so badly they've been trying to make even by taking aim at the Patriots to ease the pain. What a bunch of losers!
@SolidOptic And the "cheating" referees let you get past the Raiders in 01 when your bitch asses should have lost. Shut the fuck up, bandwagoner. Your bitches live in denial about the fact that you can't win a Super Bowl the honest way. Always gotta be some cheating involved.
At least Rodgers's Super Bowl run didn't feature any controversy like Brady's has. Tuck rule, Spygate, now the suspicious scoreboard operator in the Ravens game? They were just talking about it on First Take and when it gets to Skip, guess what he does: blames it on Harbaugh. What a shock. He's such a Brady kiss-ass. The Patriots organization are a bunch of cheaters.
@edgehead62888 He choked? Did you watch the game? None of his receivers were getting open at all, and when they did, they dropped it. 8 DROPS IN ONE GAME! Yeah, Rodgers choked alright.
ummmm actually, if Desean Jackson hadn't made that return, Green Bay still would have made the playoffs as the sixth seed... That would have just meant that the Giants won the East and the Eagles didn't make the playoffs, the Packers would have still been fine at 10-6
@ltz400bdh Dude, take off your cheeshead and green-yellow glasses:
Right now, Tom Brady is better. He's lead dynasties, played in a big market (Green Bay wouldn't be known at all if it weren't for the Packers, Boston has the Red Sox, Bruins and Celtics) and he won 3 rings. Stats in one year don't tell you anything.
For now, Brady is better. In a few years, who knows who will be better.
And no, I'm no Boston fan, I am a Yankee and Giant fan. I'm just telling you the truth.
@bvestationfan Tom Brady is a more successful QB than Rodgers right now ( which has nothing to do with playing in a "big market" but yes the fact he has 3 rings.) However, If you are comparing Brady's individual ability and talent to Aaron Rogers' own, Aaron Rodgers is a superior athlete, has the arm strength, quarterback mechanics, feet work, quick release, precision passer, etc. Of course Brady stacks up in all of these categories quite well, and is ice under pressure, but Rodgers is 1 IMO.
@d0zeyREIGNS Playing in Wisconsin is a lot different from playing in a big market. New York and Boston are pressure cookers. The fans go nuts if you do something wrong (see: Dodge, Matt. Rodriguez, Alex) and you are always under constant media scrutiny. If you are one of those who are unaffected by the press, then good. Athletes who are affected by the press tend to really suffer in large markets.
Out in Green Bay, people don't really see what most large market players go through.
@bvestationfan [#1]Big market franchises. This is something that has no existence in the NFL. The salary cap for each team is equal in the NFL, thus eliminating big market franchises (NY Yankees) from being able to buy championships. While the New England Patriots are definitely home to big market MLB and NBA teams, the New England Patriots themselves are not technically a big market franchise.
@bvestationfan [#2]Nonetheless, New England themselves has a tremendous fan base like their other home teams. However, Green Bay has just as big of a fan base, if not bigger. Not to mention New England really didn't have a fan base until Bill Belichick brought his gifted mind to help guide them to what is now one of the greatest football dynasties. Green Bays' fan base has been tremendous since the Super Bowl started, and Lombardi took the Packers to win the first Super Bowl.
@GreenDay1981 Knicks vs. Celtics, Jets vs. Pats, Giants beat PAts in SBXLII and of course theres always the Yanks and Sox
and I mentioned this because if I say Brady is better, people will jump on my case that I'm biased because I am supposedly a Pats fan. I added the NY part so that people can't say I'm just a Pat fan. If you ever went to English class and learned how to write a essay, then you would know why you have to show you aren't biased.
@packers128590 it must be nice to live in a world where you can imagine that the patriots "cheated" to win three super bowls. in the real world, however, they're all legitimate. why you ask? because there is no solid proof, only guessing and speculation, that what they did determined the outcome of ANY game. good luck convincing me otherwise
@binarystar300 You are a clueless idiot. No solid proof? Only a blind Patriots douche like you would say that call was correct. It was a fumble whether you like it or not. Brady was handed that first Super Bowl. Nothing you say will change that. He should have been one and done that year. The Patriots cocky bandwagon fans don't deserve to see another Super Bowl. The Packers win Super Bowls honestly and without any help from the refs or secretly videotaping the other team's defense.
@GreenDay1981 ah the troll reveals his true colors. you sound like a whiny 14 year old lol. you know i answered your question about tuck rule, but what's this no proof about "cameragate"? i'm guessing you choose to believe the pats "cheated" to justify your hatred of them, and to help deal with the fact that the pack choked and you're still crying about it. i'm gonna send you a link to a video you should watch about "cameragate" and what i load of horseshit the whole thing was
@binarystar300 It was actually called Spygate. Are you saying it didn't really happen? The NFL fined Belicheat half a million for it. Only reason he wasn't fined more is because half a million is the maximum fine for a head coach. Don't try acting like you know more about it than the NFL does. Jerry Rice couldn't believe the ref overturned that fumble call. The Raiders players were pissed about it because it was a fumble. Just admit it. The refs helped you get to the SB that year.
@GreenDay1981 watch the video "A conversation about Spygate". it explains the situation probably as well as i ever could. until you actually watch it and tell me what you think of that video, i have nothing to say to a whiny 14 year old troll still crying about his team failing
@binarystar300 Wow. Only you would rather take the word of some cartoon video some random person made. Did you even read some of the stuff the owner of the video wrote in the comments section? He said "no one is saying the Patriots didn't cheat" and even called Belichick an incredibly arrogant person. Whatever your delusional way of thinking is, the NFL didn't agree with it. Keep on living in denial.
@GreenDay1981 and i'm not debating that what they did was illegal, but the jets got caught taping signals in 2006 and got NONE of the penalties the pats later got. the pats lost a goddamn 1st round pick cause goodell didn't want to deal with all the conspiracy theories from fans and media. if great coaches like jimmy johnson and bill cowher say it had no impact on superbowl victories and admitting to doing it, i think that counts for something.
@binarystar300 You are a misinformed moron. For one thing, the Jets videotaped the game itself, not the Patriots defensive signals. Another thing, they had asked for and received permission from the Patriots to videotape the game. That's the difference, little bandwagoner. They probably changed their minds afterwards because they lost to the Jets. Typical whiny babies that they are. It was nothing like Spygate. That's why the Jets weren't punished. Nice try.
@GreenDay1981 i want evidence and proof of those statements. i gave you a video that explained my argument, show me something (article or video) that you base those opinions on
@binarystar300 Yeah, you told me to watch a cartoon made by someone with no affiliation to the NFL whatsoever. Some evidence. You want proof? Type in "Jets got OK to videotape Pats last season" in whatever search engine you use. It'll be on NBCsports's website.
@GreenDay1981 interesting article. i realize this is an opinion, but filming from an end zone rather than a sideline seems like a trivial difference. is one more advantageous? maybe. did the pats do something illegal? yes. did the coaching staff's actions determine the outcome of any games and allow trolls to use cheesy nicknames like belicheat and such? not enough evidence, especially if it didn't give the pats an advantage since other teams were doing it. you've got nothing kid
@binarystar300 So you're saying cheating is okay as long as there is no clear evidence that it gave the team an advantage? That's a pretty fucked up way of thinking. Steroids in baseball is illegal but not all players show clear advantages to taking them. Still doesn't make it right and they still get punished for it.
@GreenDay1981 do you consider game penalties like holding to be "cheating"? i don't. filming is more comparable to those than performance enhancerswhat i don't understand is why the patriots are the only ones scrutinized if they're not the only ones admitting to filming. i hate steroids not for the fact that they're "cheating" but for the physical and mental health issues they cause for users and their families.
@GreenDay1981 i didn't want to be sucked into another cameragate argument (i've at least a dozen over the last few years), but i guess its good to brush up on my arguments. you may not be very civil with troll comments like belicheat (like most youtube users) but at least you have some supporting evidence
@binarystar300 And why would I be bitter and angry? I'm proud that my team can win a Super Bowl the honest way without cheating or being handed a game by the refs.
All u brady fuckers are idiots lol he played tim tebow who da fk is that guy? Didnt the giants beat new enngland this year so aaron rodgers is still the best qb in the league hes got the ring and his recievers drop 9 passes and the ol line was getting smash and the running backs were fumbling even on a off night rodgers play well he still is the best qb brady hasnt done played any competion so rodgers is the best
@MrSubfoqus smh you comment me 3 times just for that lol brady had a great defense in the past and spygate and the tuck rule got him rings unlike aaron rodgers are you on some shit? rodgers is young in his prime hes gonna win more super bowls than brady he can run out the pocket hes the total pakage lol ravens will dominate brady like they always do so fk your dad
PREACH SKIP!!! CHURCH!!! So happy that cocky bastard Rodgers got his ass WHOOPED by the Giants! I'm not even a giants fan either. Rodgers arrogance was UNBEARABLE this season, Rodgers should thank Jesus (and Lesean) for even making the playoffs last year. He's a SYSTEM QB with a crazy talented WR core. Guarentee he won't make the SuperBowl for the rest of his career!!!
@oopopp He's incredibly accurate, has good ground speed, and arm strength. His stats are there for proof. And how is he cocky? just because he does the belt celebration doesn't mean he's cocky. Aaron Rodgers won that super bowl. 21 pts @PHI. 48 pts @ATL. 21 pts @CHI. 31 pts vPIT. Rodgers is without a doubt the best QB in the league. Fine if you hate him, but that doesn't give you the right to depreciate his talent.
@MrSubfoqus yea he is his stats are better and just becuz he lost to the giants dosent mean anything brady hasnt won a playoff game in 5 years till the broncos? fk outta here
@justdopeful Yeah i fucking doubt kid..If you think Rodgers is better than Brady you are fucking dumb. Look at what Brady has accomplished unlike Aaron. You are also spelling words wrong...I'M DONE!
@justdopeful Lmao look at Brady's yards and Rodger's yards...Shut the fuck up, you obviously know nothing if you think he is better than him. 3 rings bitch, soon to be 4 bitch.
Again Again And Again I just wanna see Aaron Rodger be another Tom Brady. Yeah we need another complaining bitch in the league. Too many people rely on stats when Aaron Rodgers hasnt been starting that long and where Tom Brady Been doing it for years.
sad to say but Skip was right in a way about Aaron Rodgers. Really good QB but he doesn't have the comeback clutch gene. Not yet at least and the game on sunday proved it.
Umm how can he be clutch when his receivers let him down and his running backs turn the football over? Defense cant make the necessary stops. I love how people throw Rodgers under the bus though. Its always the QB's fault. Its like poker you can only play the cards dealt. He did everything he could do. The rest of the team let him down. Rodgers is still ELITE and at the Top. IT takes a TEAM effort not just 1!!! Eli is lucky to have a good defense.
@GeenDay1981 favre only won 1 superbowl in a 15 year career w/ the pack and arod already won one and hes only been playin for like 4 yrs as a starter favre won in 96 that was it.
@jalmose4 if anything the refs almost cheated the giants (ruling against an obvious fumble in green bay's favor). this is coming from a pats fan who hates anything new york
@binarystar300 The refs cheated the Raiders when your Patriots faced them in the playoffs. They said Brady's arm was moving forward when clearly it was a pump fake and should have been ruled a fumble. They ended up kicking the game winning field goal on that drive so don't tell us about bad officiating. And this was only Rodgers's 4th starting season. If he still has 1 ring after his 15th season, then start comparing him to Favre. Favre was the ultimate choke artist.
@GreenDay1981 if i had a nickel for every troll that brings up "tuck rule" or "spygate" or "belicheat" or "18-1" i'd be bill fucking gates. i'm glad this "rodgers is the greatest qb of all-time" nonsense will stop (same with tebowmania). he and his boys did a "discount double choke" yesterday, so just handle it like a man and move on.
@binarystar300 Fool? Who are you? Mr. T? Nothing to say about that "tuck rule" thing, huh? Not surprised. Who said Rodgers is the greatest QB of all-time? Sounds like something you are hoping someone says so you can kiss Brady's ass some more. I hope the Ravens kick your asses.
@GreenDay1981 the ravens kicking our asses? i guess its possible, but i doubt their cocky prison-gang defense can handle the likes of gronk, hernando, and welkah. and yeah you're totally right the patriots didn't deserve to win based on a rule that's completely legal according to the rule books:P
@binarystar300 And didn't Branch get away with offensive pass interference on his touchdown catch? Looked like an obvious push off that wasn't called.
Rogers is a beast, the fact that people are even arguing if he is better than Brady or not shows that he is elite. Oh and lets not forget about Brees, he should be thrown into the "best qb" conversation.
@koonteriskool yea its funny how the guy with the nfl season record for passing doesn't seem to make it into the discussion, I would take drew brees any day over tom brady.
@rocpet3 You must be crazy...flashy numbers and big records mean nothing. At the end of the day Brady leads his team and has been the most proven QB of the past decade
@cryps1 Brady hides behind probably the best offense in the NFL he has outstanding protection and when you have a dozen pro bowlers or pro bowl level players its not hard to be good. Drew Brees is able to make due with the resources he has, you saw what happened to reggie bush when he left the saints. Drew Brees did better than Tom Brady this year with a lot less talent on his team.
@rocpet3 the saints have two pro bowl guards so don't even try to rationalize that bs. it seems like every fan with a decent qb tries to argue that "my does so much with so little". the only decent qb with a shit o-line is cutler
@rocpet3 You're perspective is wrong dude. The reason Branch, Welker, Gronkowski, and Hernandez look like pro bowl players is because of BRADY. If Brady had receivers all over the field like Brees I'm sure he would have surpassed Marino's record by over 800 yards!!
@cryps1 never said brady was a bad quarterback he is certainly one of the best but I would point out that if you look at stats brees has higher completion percentage and more yards per attempt than brady does the real issue comes in if you had to replace one of those two quarterbacks which team would be better off and im looking at the saints and I dont see them having a winning record without drew brees. pats can win games even without tom Brady as we saw in 2008.
@cryps1 I love how all you Patriots fans think Brady makes his receivers look good but when it comes to guys like Rodgers, his receivers make HIM look good. You just can't stand stand seeing another QB put up better numbers than your boy Brady. Name a great QB that didn't have a great receiver. Montana and Young had Jerry Rice. Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison. Don't bother with the would have, could haves. We could say Rodgers would have the passing yards record if he threw 657 times too.
@GreenDay1981 I'm not even a patriots fan lol I'm just a eagles fan (I know they sucked) who understands the consistent brilliance of Tom Brady through every single season...
where are alll the green bay fudge packers who were ripping me when i said they were gonna lose to San Fran or ATL in the playoffs? your invincible team didn't even get a chance to get shut down by san fran and you got owned by the team that beat atlanta. Aaron Rodgers is like tiger woods and can't come from behind. He can only win games when he has a huge lead going into sunday(the 4th quarter)
I'm going to take a guess and say Skip will 100% blame Aaron Rodgers for the loss (even though the Giants are the best team left in the playoffs). But he will as many people blame the team for Tebow's loss b/c he claims A-rod is held to a higher standard. Please man sometimes I think Skip falls too much in love with these guys (i.e. him hating the fact Brett Favre didn't find another job. Get over yourself Please Mr. Gayless.....
Skip Bayless is the man , never a prisoner of the moment and speaks the TRUTH wheter you like it or not. He was right all along Lebron was a punk , Tebow a winner and Rodgers doesnt have the #ClutchGene
@GreenDay1981 Oh wait Tebow won one more playoff game than Aaron Rodgers this year lmaooo i hope ya boy makes some more commercial so i can see em on Fox next week while i watch my Giants play for the NFC title #DiscountDoubleChoke
@Knickmet2 Oh wait, Rodgers has something Teblow will never have: a SB ring and MVP. Rodgers doesn't have the clutch gene, huh? I guess the fact that he won 3 road playoff games and the Super Bowl despite having no real running game and having 3 key players get hurt early in the SB isn't clutch. Was Teblow clutch against the Chiefs even though they only scored 7 points the whole game? Was Teblow clutch against the Patriots? He can beat the #1 defense but can't do shit against one of the worst?
@GreenDay1981 just like Rodgers had to work to get there , Tebow has to do the same and i didnt say anything about Tebow being clutch in my comment tho
Rodgers proved Bayless wrong.
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bigD2387 1 week ago
here's what you all don't understand, skip bayless is simply the sports world's greatest troll, and i love watching every waking moment of it.
FrodoOriginal 1 week ago
I'm a big Bronco fan and I really hate the Packers, but this guy's way too bass-ackwards to be working at ESPN
coloradokid1992 1 week ago
Bayless is so stupid, he's funny. BTW, when was the last time Brady made a comeback with less than 2minutes in a meaningful game? That's what I thought, YEARS!!
CarlHH777 2 weeks ago
not YET??? Shit he aint no Tom Brady and he never will be....
bigD2387 2 weeks ago
@bigD2387 no hes already better than shit brady
jamatune22 2 weeks ago
@jamatune22 come talk to me when Aaron Rodgers can say that he has 3 SB rings, 2 SB MVP's, and 2 NFL MVP's.... Maybe if Rodgers would've spent more time practicing with his team rather than making stupid ass commercials he would've been that much closer to being the best, but, he didn't. Rodgers has a long way to go before he can catch up to Tom Brady....
bigD2387 1 week ago
@bigD2387 lol the fact that you make rings a stat proves u know nothing about football. manning is better than both.
jamatune22 1 week ago
@jamatune22 It's obvious that I was refering to the amount of SB wins each has had you dumbass.
bigD2387 1 week ago
@bigD2387 thats wat i meant dumbass and brady didnt win those superbowls the cheating pats did and both rodgers and brady are overated. manning is where it at bitchass dumbfuck
jamatune22 1 week ago
@jamatune22 did you hear me once say Brady or Rodgers WASN'T overrated???? no. i never said they weren't, because I know they are. All I'm saying, is that Rodgers is NOT on Brady's level right now, and he's got a long way to go before he is. Never said anything about them not being overrated, and never said anything about Manning either....
bigD2387 1 week ago
@bigD2387 The Packers were 1 penalty call away from being tied for the most penalties in the NFL and you say the refs helped us to a 15-1 season. LMAO!! Try again, dumbass. I love making you idiot Patriots fans look stupid. You make it so easy.
GreenDay1981 1 week ago
@bigD2387 The 1st ring and 1st SB MVP should never have happened because the Patriots should have lost to the Raiders in the first round. The refs helped them win that game and give them the chance to get to the Super Bowl. How the hell does having 145 passing yards and 1 TD earn you SB MVP too? That's bullshit. We all know about Spygate too. Was there any controversy about Rodgers's Super Bowl run? No. He plays for an organization that doesn't need to cheat to win.
GreenDay1981 1 week ago
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@GreenDay1981 If you can't even except the fact that the Pack kissed the refs ass to a 15 win season you are obviously nothing but a packer fanboy.Every time they fucked up they'd suck the refs dick for a flag.The refs even tried to help you win the playoff game against the Giants.Saying that fumble on that punt wasn't a fumble when it clearly was. Or saying that when Rodgers threw that incomplete that it was a late hit,when it wasn't. Go jack off to your Clay Matthews fathead you fuckin queer
bigD2387 1 week ago
@bigD2387 You said the refs helped the Packers to a 15-win season but all you talked about was the playoff game. How did they help them in the regular season? Answer that, dumbfuck. Again, a Patriots douche has no room to talk about the refs helping anyone else in the playoffs. Maybe if Brady spent more time focusing on the game instead of trying to fight his own offensive coordinator, he wouldn't have been shitty in the playoffs. Fuck Brady and fuck you Patriot bandwagon douchebags.
GreenDay1981 1 week ago
@GreenDay1981 all season dumbass. ALL SEASON they kissed the refs ass. Not just that Giants playoff game. How did they help them in the regular season??? the first Giants game. The last game of the season against the Lions, it was so blatantly obvious who the refs were favoring. The game against San Diego. Every close game they had. If it wasn't for the refs they would've lost at least 3 games. It doesn't surprise me that the only one who questions how the refs helped them is a packtard... lol
bigD2387 2 days ago
@bigD2387 I love how you bring up random games but sight no examples of so-called "favoring" by the refs. Again, the Packers were one of the most penalized teams in the NFL, dumbfuck. Do you have memory loss? I brought up that bullshit call against the Raiders in 01 and Spygate. This year, there was questionable actions by the scoreboard operator in the Ravens game. Those are facts for your stupid ass.
GreenDay1981 2 days ago
@GreenDay1981 there are people on the ravens who get paid plenty of fucking money to keep track of what down it as and how much time is left on the clock. even the ravens coach said it had no effect on the outcome.
it's amusing how you only believe the stuff you find convenient to believe, like believing that the pats are heartless assholes and the packers are god's gift to football. instead of doing actual research and forming an objective opinion on your own.
binarystar300 2 days ago
@binarystar300 You mean like how you conveniently believe that the Patriots win honestly?
GreenDay1981 1 day ago
@GreenDay1981 yeah reason based arguments with supporting evidence is real convenient isn't it? not that you'd know, trolls don't know how to do those things
binarystar300 1 day ago
@binarystar300 I do research. It's not my fault you are in denial.
GreenDay1981 1 day ago
@GreenDay1981 why would a packers fan even hate the pats anyway? if it's because of cameragate did you hate them before 2007?
binarystar300 1 day ago
@binarystar300 Are you really this clueless? Hating the Patriots has become as popular as hating the Yankees. You don't have to be a Red Sox fan to hate the Yankees. If they can win a Super Bowl honestly like the Ravens, Buccaneers, Colts, and Packers, maybe they wouldn't be so hated. Take your welfare check and buy a clue.
GreenDay1981 1 day ago
@GreenDay1981 people don't hate those teams BECAUSE they don't win championships often. and just because a lot of teams hate the pats doesn't mean they have good reasons to. the pats have very little in common with the yanks, they don't buy championships they earn them.
if the pack ever won 3 championships in 4 years during your life i guarantee they'll be universally hated. get off your high horse you egotistical prick
binarystar300 1 day ago
@binarystar300 The Patriots had ZERO championships before 2001 so I wouldn't say THEY win them often. The Patriots earn championships? So earning means help from the refs and illegally videotaping the opposing defense? If that's considered earning a championship, I would rather we not "earn" ours.
GreenDay1981 1 day ago
@GreenDay1981 it must be fun living in a world where only the pats break the rules and every other team, especially the packers, earn their championships. bill cowher and jimmy johnson have both been quoted on radio saying they stole signals and felt no remorse in doing so. hell dom capers was on the pats staff in 08, he stole signals with us and i guarantee he does it as your defensive coordinator. yet i don't consider the pack or the pats cheaters and neither should you
binarystar300 1 day ago
@binarystar300 If Capers was stealing signals, it obviously didn't help considering we had the worst defense in the NFL. I love how you try to justify your coach's actions by bringing up 2 coaches admitting to it AFTER THEY HAVE RETIRED. That's like saying Saddam Hussein shouldn't be hated for his crimes because other dictators were just as ruthless or even more so than he was.
GreenDay1981 1 day ago
@GreenDay1981 worst defense in total yards maybe, but you guys were 1st in defensive turnovers and nearly top ten in points allowed. you guys won the superbowl with a similar defense last year. you just can't bear to call yourself a hypocrite by admitting capers probably stole
your other argument makes no sense. a coach wouldn't face anymore scrutiny to admitting to stealing signals whether he's retired or active. idk why the fuck you compared them to saddam either that was weird.
binarystar300 1 day ago
@binarystar300 Nearly top 10? Being ranked 19th in points allowed is nearly top 10? Idiot. The Patriots gave up fewer points per game than the Packers. The defense this year was nothing like it was the year before. It was ranked 2nd in the NFL in 2010. Big difference. Who was fined for Spygate? Was it Capers or Belicheat? Yeah, fuck off. If you can't see why I made that comparison, you're too stupid for words. You also need to learn what the term hypocrite means.
GreenDay1981 10 hours ago
@GreenDay1981 19th still isn't dead last like you implied. you need to relax i just used what was at the top of my head. i don't think the player turnover (what i meant) on defense was much different, just their performance. comparing a nfl coach to an iraqi dictator is both weird and random no matter the context.
not everyone who was on roids in baseball was caught or suspended. does that mean the others are innocent? same with filming. don't get your panties in a bunch troll
binarystar300 9 hours ago
@binarystar300 It's not nearly in the top 10 either like you claimed. I knew the comparison would go right over your empty head. I implied that just because other people did it doesn't make it right. Get it now?
GreenDay1981 9 hours ago
@GreenDay1981 your nitpicking is irritating, i already explained the overall point i was trying to make about the packers defense being better statistically than you claimed and how it related to capers and his knowledge of signal stealing. what this means to you, however, is that you have no right to criticize signal stealing when the pack and other teams do it as well. unless you want to call yourself a cheater, which i'm guessing you don't. get it now?
binarystar300 6 hours ago
@binarystar300 You didn't explain shit. How would it make any sense for a defensive coordinator to videotape the opposing DEFENSE? So now the Packers do it? Do you have proof of this? No of course not. You're just going on the fact that our defensive coordinator was on the cheating Patriots before. Yeah real brilliant evidence there, Cochran. I guess since Jim Tressel is on the Colts's staff now, it must mean Colts players are selling merchandise for tattoos.
GreenDay1981 5 hours ago
@GreenDay1981 you still haven't proved to me or anyone that videotaping was the determining factor for why the pats won their superbowls. cowher and johnson said they did it. why is it that no former coaches have stated that the pats cheated to win their superbowls? did they lie? if so, what was their incentive to doing so? and goodel's sanctions do not prove that cheating occured. it was a pr stunt for all you know.
binarystar300 4 hours ago
@GreenDay1981 i have met some stubborn people in my day, but you take the cake. i actually looked at your argument and considered their validity in the beginning. that article about videotaping being legal from end zone to end zone was something you showed me and i learned something from it. i know this is the internet, but it would be courteous to acknowledge some arguments from your opponent. i just don't know why you're so angry/stubborn :(
binarystar300 4 hours ago
@bigD2387 i like how when people criticize the packers nfl fans in general try to crucify you, but criticizing the pats is socially acceptable. i also notice the patriots hate really started to pick up as soon as the pats made the superbowl this year. and greenday1981 is a little insecure so try not to hurt his feelings too much
binarystar300 1 week ago
@binarystar300 oh ok rodgers is shit and a big ass baby but i thought u sed brady was best ever
jamatune22 1 week ago
@binarystar300 It's acceptable because the Patriots cheat their way to Super Bowl titles. You're insecure about that.
GreenDay1981 3 days ago
@GreenDay1981 you just don't know when to stop talking do you? talk to me in five years when you've grown up and maybe we can have a big boy conversation
binarystar300 3 days ago
@binarystar300 Speak for yourself. What, nothing to say about the Patriots cheating? I knew you were insecure.
GreenDay1981 2 days ago
@GreenDay1981 you're short-term memory must be weak because i addressed that issue. i had presented an argument with evidence, you presented a counter-argument with evidence, and neither of us changed our opinions. why waste my time saying the same thing to you again?
if all packer fans are annoying insecure trolls like you then i've lost a lot of respect for your fanbase
binarystar300 2 days ago
@binarystar300 Yeah I seem to recall your "evidence" being a youtube cartoon made by some random person with no affiliation to the NFL but whatever.
GreenDay1981 2 days ago
@GreenDay1981 the last thing i'll say about cameragate is that goodel destroyed the tapes instead of releasing them to the media. that was the only hard evidence you could have used to make a justifiable case about the patriots breaching the integrity of the game. personally i wish the tapes weren't destroyed so i could prove with certainty that this was the most overblown sports scandel in the last 10 years or so.
now stop wasting my time, the packers lost this year handle it
binarystar300 2 days ago
@binarystar300 They were videotaped signals. Why the hell would he release them to the media? So every NFL team can see what the signals are? Common sense, dude. You should try it.
GreenDay1981 2 days ago
@GreenDay1981 well troll teams change their signals from game-to-game. why? because it is still legal to write them down on paper or videotape them from end zone to end zone. if teams didn't change them, other teams would be aware of the signals and have a big advantage (especially division opponents). goodel releasing the tapes would shed light onto the "scandel" while yielding no advantage to anyone. btw goodel's memo to the league about taping didn't happen until 2006
binarystar300 2 days ago
@binarystar300 Use whatever excuses you want. Doesn't change the fact that the Patriots cheated and deserve no respect from any fanbases in the NFL.
GreenDay1981 2 days ago
@GreenDay1981 and hey i haven't seen you prove one fact that the Pats "cheated" to get to a SB.... lol
bigD2387 2 days ago
@bigD2387 how soon you forget that Brady the Crybaby and the Cheatriots CHEATED to win those 3 SBs, and are exactly 0-2 in the SB since the league decided they can't film anymore, so it means nothing! Playoff stats: Rodgers, 4-2 in the playoffs, 105.5 all time playoff passer rating, 1-0 in SB Brady the Crybaby: 4-4 record in the playoffs (with those wins against .500 teams and because of the refs, respectively), 86.5 passer rating, 0-2 in the SB since Spygate *when it counts.
Headhunter004 22 hours ago
*2 of those wins, I'm sorry, needed to correct myself there.
Headhunter004 22 hours ago
@Headhunter004 at least they've been to the superbowls twice after..jeez give some credit where it's due ..
xxNELLABOYZxx 20 hours ago
GUESS WHO GOT MVP OF 2011-2012.... AARON RODGER MAI NIGGA>!>!>!>>!
spikyblu 2 weeks ago
why does he talk shit about rodgers for not having alot of comebacks??shouldnt he be praising him for never being behind in a game haha. hes hating on him because he blows out teams in the 1st 3 quarters and the packers bring in flynn for garbage time haha skip bayless is a whiny little cunt. rodgers=best qb in the league
godsboss24 2 weeks ago
@godsboss24 Agreed. He bags on Rodgers not having a lot of comebacks when he hasn't even been in the position to NEED a comeback very often, yet he brown-noses Tim Tebow, a guy that plays like shit for the first 3 quarters but then suddenly figures out how to play football in the 4th quarter. I would rather have a QB that plays well all 4 quarters than one that only does well in the 4th. Wonder how many times the Broncos defense will bail Tebow out next season.
GreenDay1981 2 weeks ago
Hey Shit Bayless, Rodgers has won his first career MVP. Can't wait to hear you bitch about it on Monday's First Take. That is, after you get done brown-nosing whoever wins the Ego Bowl.
GreenDay1981 2 weeks ago
Rodgers is the new best QB, Rodgers is the new Champion, Rodgers is the new Brady. Enough Said
Kevinitm 3 weeks ago
@Kevinitm I am Brady fan, and I agree. Aaron is our next great QB now that Manning and Tommy Football are getting old.
Pgaither84 2 weeks ago
where was brady against the ravens? 2 picks and no touchdowns, yeah he really steps up under pressure, a missed field goal and dropped touchdown got them into the super bowl, it was Baltimores game. so eat a fat 1 skip your bum buddy brady is gonna get sacked galore against the giants, pierre paul gonna munch his ass up! fuck the patriots
feargardz 3 weeks ago
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feargardz 3 weeks ago
@feargardz You're a moron. Also, cursing and yelling doesn't make you right. If you were on 1st and 10, you'd make a fool of yourself.
Pgaither84 2 weeks ago
@Pgaither84 all my points were true, anyone with half a brain knows lebron and adrian petersen are 2 of the best athletes in sport, yet skip bags on them cause there good, he says things for shock value, so yes i am right moron
feargardz 2 weeks ago
The Giants buried the Packers along with the "cheating" referees 37-20! Now their fans got hurt so badly they've been trying to make even by taking aim at the Patriots to ease the pain. What a bunch of losers!
SolidOptic 4 weeks ago
@SolidOptic And the "cheating" referees let you get past the Raiders in 01 when your bitch asses should have lost. Shut the fuck up, bandwagoner. Your bitches live in denial about the fact that you can't win a Super Bowl the honest way. Always gotta be some cheating involved.
GreenDay1981 3 weeks ago
@GreenDay1981 Hurt isn't that! Go Giants!
SolidOptic 3 weeks ago
@SolidOptic So which bandwagon are you on? The Patriots or Giants? Make up your mind.
GreenDay1981 3 weeks ago
@SolidOptic dont feed the packer trolls
binarystar300 3 weeks ago
@binarystar300 You are a Patriots troll that condones cheating.
GreenDay1981 2 weeks ago
@GreenDay1981 looks like you and me can agree on one thing, brady ant the spygates patriots are overated without their sony cameras
jamatune22 1 week ago
At least Rodgers's Super Bowl run didn't feature any controversy like Brady's has. Tuck rule, Spygate, now the suspicious scoreboard operator in the Ravens game? They were just talking about it on First Take and when it gets to Skip, guess what he does: blames it on Harbaugh. What a shock. He's such a Brady kiss-ass. The Patriots organization are a bunch of cheaters.
GreenDay1981 4 weeks ago
He has a point. The only time he's really been down, he choked.
edgehead62888 1 month ago
@edgehead62888 He choked? Did you watch the game? None of his receivers were getting open at all, and when they did, they dropped it. 8 DROPS IN ONE GAME! Yeah, Rodgers choked alright.
bigkahunaburgers12 4 weeks ago
ummmm actually, if Desean Jackson hadn't made that return, Green Bay still would have made the playoffs as the sixth seed... That would have just meant that the Giants won the East and the Eagles didn't make the playoffs, the Packers would have still been fine at 10-6
sheegan8 1 month ago
hello who has the best qb rating ? RODGERS. not fuck brady, brady likes dick in his pretty boy hair so suck it
ltz400bdh 1 month ago
@ltz400bdh Dude, take off your cheeshead and green-yellow glasses:
Right now, Tom Brady is better. He's lead dynasties, played in a big market (Green Bay wouldn't be known at all if it weren't for the Packers, Boston has the Red Sox, Bruins and Celtics) and he won 3 rings. Stats in one year don't tell you anything.
For now, Brady is better. In a few years, who knows who will be better.
And no, I'm no Boston fan, I am a Yankee and Giant fan. I'm just telling you the truth.
bvestationfan 1 month ago
@bvestationfan Tom Brady is a more successful QB than Rodgers right now ( which has nothing to do with playing in a "big market" but yes the fact he has 3 rings.) However, If you are comparing Brady's individual ability and talent to Aaron Rogers' own, Aaron Rodgers is a superior athlete, has the arm strength, quarterback mechanics, feet work, quick release, precision passer, etc. Of course Brady stacks up in all of these categories quite well, and is ice under pressure, but Rodgers is 1 IMO.
d0zeyREIGNS 1 month ago
@d0zeyREIGNS Playing in Wisconsin is a lot different from playing in a big market. New York and Boston are pressure cookers. The fans go nuts if you do something wrong (see: Dodge, Matt. Rodriguez, Alex) and you are always under constant media scrutiny. If you are one of those who are unaffected by the press, then good. Athletes who are affected by the press tend to really suffer in large markets.
Out in Green Bay, people don't really see what most large market players go through.
bvestationfan 1 month ago
@bvestationfan [#1]Big market franchises. This is something that has no existence in the NFL. The salary cap for each team is equal in the NFL, thus eliminating big market franchises (NY Yankees) from being able to buy championships. While the New England Patriots are definitely home to big market MLB and NBA teams, the New England Patriots themselves are not technically a big market franchise.
d0zeyREIGNS 1 month ago
@bvestationfan [#2]Nonetheless, New England themselves has a tremendous fan base like their other home teams. However, Green Bay has just as big of a fan base, if not bigger. Not to mention New England really didn't have a fan base until Bill Belichick brought his gifted mind to help guide them to what is now one of the greatest football dynasties. Green Bays' fan base has been tremendous since the Super Bowl started, and Lombardi took the Packers to win the first Super Bowl.
d0zeyREIGNS 1 month ago
@bvestationfan What do other sports have to do with anything?
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Because there is a huge rivalry between Boston and New York teams, идиот
Most New York fans hate Boston teams and vice versa
bvestationfan 1 month ago
@bvestationfan In baseball, yes. In other sports, not really. Again, what does it have to do with anything?
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Knicks vs. Celtics, Jets vs. Pats, Giants beat PAts in SBXLII and of course theres always the Yanks and Sox
and I mentioned this because if I say Brady is better, people will jump on my case that I'm biased because I am supposedly a Pats fan. I added the NY part so that people can't say I'm just a Pat fan. If you ever went to English class and learned how to write a essay, then you would know why you have to show you aren't biased.
smfh.
bvestationfan 1 month ago
Brady was on a cheating team for his 3 rings...remember?!?!
packers128590 1 month ago
@packers128590 Someones mad...Kiss his rings bitch!
MrSubfoqus 1 month ago
@packers128590 it must be nice to live in a world where you can imagine that the patriots "cheated" to win three super bowls. in the real world, however, they're all legitimate. why you ask? because there is no solid proof, only guessing and speculation, that what they did determined the outcome of ANY game. good luck convincing me otherwise
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 You are a clueless idiot. No solid proof? Only a blind Patriots douche like you would say that call was correct. It was a fumble whether you like it or not. Brady was handed that first Super Bowl. Nothing you say will change that. He should have been one and done that year. The Patriots cocky bandwagon fans don't deserve to see another Super Bowl. The Packers win Super Bowls honestly and without any help from the refs or secretly videotaping the other team's defense.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 ah the troll reveals his true colors. you sound like a whiny 14 year old lol. you know i answered your question about tuck rule, but what's this no proof about "cameragate"? i'm guessing you choose to believe the pats "cheated" to justify your hatred of them, and to help deal with the fact that the pack choked and you're still crying about it. i'm gonna send you a link to a video you should watch about "cameragate" and what i load of horseshit the whole thing was
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 It was actually called Spygate. Are you saying it didn't really happen? The NFL fined Belicheat half a million for it. Only reason he wasn't fined more is because half a million is the maximum fine for a head coach. Don't try acting like you know more about it than the NFL does. Jerry Rice couldn't believe the ref overturned that fumble call. The Raiders players were pissed about it because it was a fumble. Just admit it. The refs helped you get to the SB that year.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 watch the video "A conversation about Spygate". it explains the situation probably as well as i ever could. until you actually watch it and tell me what you think of that video, i have nothing to say to a whiny 14 year old troll still crying about his team failing
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 Wow. Only you would rather take the word of some cartoon video some random person made. Did you even read some of the stuff the owner of the video wrote in the comments section? He said "no one is saying the Patriots didn't cheat" and even called Belichick an incredibly arrogant person. Whatever your delusional way of thinking is, the NFL didn't agree with it. Keep on living in denial.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 and i'm not debating that what they did was illegal, but the jets got caught taping signals in 2006 and got NONE of the penalties the pats later got. the pats lost a goddamn 1st round pick cause goodell didn't want to deal with all the conspiracy theories from fans and media. if great coaches like jimmy johnson and bill cowher say it had no impact on superbowl victories and admitting to doing it, i think that counts for something.
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 You are a misinformed moron. For one thing, the Jets videotaped the game itself, not the Patriots defensive signals. Another thing, they had asked for and received permission from the Patriots to videotape the game. That's the difference, little bandwagoner. They probably changed their minds afterwards because they lost to the Jets. Typical whiny babies that they are. It was nothing like Spygate. That's why the Jets weren't punished. Nice try.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 i want evidence and proof of those statements. i gave you a video that explained my argument, show me something (article or video) that you base those opinions on
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 Yeah, you told me to watch a cartoon made by someone with no affiliation to the NFL whatsoever. Some evidence. You want proof? Type in "Jets got OK to videotape Pats last season" in whatever search engine you use. It'll be on NBCsports's website.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 interesting article. i realize this is an opinion, but filming from an end zone rather than a sideline seems like a trivial difference. is one more advantageous? maybe. did the pats do something illegal? yes. did the coaching staff's actions determine the outcome of any games and allow trolls to use cheesy nicknames like belicheat and such? not enough evidence, especially if it didn't give the pats an advantage since other teams were doing it. you've got nothing kid
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 So you're saying cheating is okay as long as there is no clear evidence that it gave the team an advantage? That's a pretty fucked up way of thinking. Steroids in baseball is illegal but not all players show clear advantages to taking them. Still doesn't make it right and they still get punished for it.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 do you consider game penalties like holding to be "cheating"? i don't. filming is more comparable to those than performance enhancerswhat i don't understand is why the patriots are the only ones scrutinized if they're not the only ones admitting to filming. i hate steroids not for the fact that they're "cheating" but for the physical and mental health issues they cause for users and their families.
binarystar300 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 i didn't want to be sucked into another cameragate argument (i've at least a dozen over the last few years), but i guess its good to brush up on my arguments. you may not be very civil with troll comments like belicheat (like most youtube users) but at least you have some supporting evidence
binarystar300 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 I agree with you, can't stand Pats fans at all
TheBallingSuperstar 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 and keep on being bitter and angry while i keep on rooting for the pats in the superbowl
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 And why would I be bitter and angry? I'm proud that my team can win a Super Bowl the honest way without cheating or being handed a game by the refs.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
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binarystar300 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 haha both are teams can say the same thing. good luck to the pack next year
binarystar300 1 month ago
@packers128590 And he cant win another one without haha aaaron shits on him all day
justdopeful 2 weeks ago
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17Baseballking 1 month ago
Rodgers is right - it's just that Bayless is a troll for a living.
KataclysmKat 1 month ago
STATS ARE FOR LOSERS!!
*Not my words*
SolidOptic 1 month ago
All u brady fuckers are idiots lol he played tim tebow who da fk is that guy? Didnt the giants beat new enngland this year so aaron rodgers is still the best qb in the league hes got the ring and his recievers drop 9 passes and the ol line was getting smash and the running backs were fumbling even on a off night rodgers play well he still is the best qb brady hasnt done played any competion so rodgers is the best
justdopeful 1 month ago
@justdopeful 3 rings..soon to be 4 lil bitch. Brady is defiantly in the top 10 for QB's unlike Aaron sorry....Fuck outta here
MrSubfoqus 1 month ago
@MrSubfoqus smh you comment me 3 times just for that lol brady had a great defense in the past and spygate and the tuck rule got him rings unlike aaron rodgers are you on some shit? rodgers is young in his prime hes gonna win more super bowls than brady he can run out the pocket hes the total pakage lol ravens will dominate brady like they always do so fk your dad
justdopeful 1 month ago
@MrSubfoqus what do you mean "defiantly"?...english is hard.
packers128590 1 month ago
@packers128590 *definitely
MrSubfoqus 1 month ago
@packers128590 lol and he told me to spell when i was using typo
justdopeful 1 month ago
PREACH SKIP!!! CHURCH!!! So happy that cocky bastard Rodgers got his ass WHOOPED by the Giants! I'm not even a giants fan either. Rodgers arrogance was UNBEARABLE this season, Rodgers should thank Jesus (and Lesean) for even making the playoffs last year. He's a SYSTEM QB with a crazy talented WR core. Guarentee he won't make the SuperBowl for the rest of his career!!!
oopopp 1 month ago
@oopopp He's incredibly accurate, has good ground speed, and arm strength. His stats are there for proof. And how is he cocky? just because he does the belt celebration doesn't mean he's cocky. Aaron Rodgers won that super bowl. 21 pts @PHI. 48 pts @ATL. 21 pts @CHI. 31 pts vPIT. Rodgers is without a doubt the best QB in the league. Fine if you hate him, but that doesn't give you the right to depreciate his talent.
jaf1856 1 month ago
@jaf1856 He is defiantly not better than Tom Brady, sorry.
MrSubfoqus 1 month ago
@MrSubfoqus yea he is his stats are better and just becuz he lost to the giants dosent mean anything brady hasnt won a playoff game in 5 years till the broncos? fk outta here
justdopeful 1 month ago
@justdopeful Yeah i fucking doubt kid..If you think Rodgers is better than Brady you are fucking dumb. Look at what Brady has accomplished unlike Aaron. You are also spelling words wrong...I'M DONE!
MrSubfoqus 1 month ago
@MrSubfoqus Hahaha with your retard ass lol brady cant win another without spygate rodgers will come back on top soon to be 4 stfu
justdopeful 2 weeks ago
@justdopeful Lmao look at Brady's yards and Rodger's yards...Shut the fuck up, you obviously know nothing if you think he is better than him. 3 rings bitch, soon to be 4 bitch.
MrSubfoqus 1 month ago
@MrSubfoqus id rather have tds over yards
Terry41172 1 month ago
@Terry41172 exactly tds show up on the scoreboard not yards
justdopeful 1 month ago
Rodgers fluked into his super bowl.
He hasn't won a playoff game outside of that year.
JamesOwnzsam 1 month ago
@JamesOwnzsam Fluked? You must be a bitter Stealers douche. Screw off, you prick. Rodgers earned that Super Bowl.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
Again Again And Again I just wanna see Aaron Rodger be another Tom Brady. Yeah we need another complaining bitch in the league. Too many people rely on stats when Aaron Rodgers hasnt been starting that long and where Tom Brady Been doing it for years.
Mauser6124 1 month ago
Ok look stop hating on Skip because he is a fan of Tebow we are all fans of something and I respect him for not being a Fair-weather fan.
virginiatechfanx 1 month ago
sad to say but Skip was right in a way about Aaron Rodgers. Really good QB but he doesn't have the comeback clutch gene. Not yet at least and the game on sunday proved it.
julien5000 1 month ago
@julien5000
Umm how can he be clutch when his receivers let him down and his running backs turn the football over? Defense cant make the necessary stops. I love how people throw Rodgers under the bus though. Its always the QB's fault. Its like poker you can only play the cards dealt. He did everything he could do. The rest of the team let him down. Rodgers is still ELITE and at the Top. IT takes a TEAM effort not just 1!!! Eli is lucky to have a good defense.
ttrain5450 1 month ago
@ttrain5450 couldn't have said it better
jaf1856 1 month ago
SUCK COCK GREEN BAY
BigTheNoodlez 1 month ago
Ah ha!,. somebody is hurt by the Giants' and take a walk on the Pats to ease the pain, LOL
SolidOptic 1 month ago
@GeenDay1981 favre only won 1 superbowl in a 15 year career w/ the pack and arod already won one and hes only been playin for like 4 yrs as a starter favre won in 96 that was it.
Catfish5166 1 month ago
The Refs cheated the Packers should have won that game!! #PACKERSFAN
jalmose4 1 month ago
@jalmose4 if anything the refs almost cheated the giants (ruling against an obvious fumble in green bay's favor). this is coming from a pats fan who hates anything new york
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 The refs cheated the Raiders when your Patriots faced them in the playoffs. They said Brady's arm was moving forward when clearly it was a pump fake and should have been ruled a fumble. They ended up kicking the game winning field goal on that drive so don't tell us about bad officiating. And this was only Rodgers's 4th starting season. If he still has 1 ring after his 15th season, then start comparing him to Favre. Favre was the ultimate choke artist.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 if i had a nickel for every troll that brings up "tuck rule" or "spygate" or "belicheat" or "18-1" i'd be bill fucking gates. i'm glad this "rodgers is the greatest qb of all-time" nonsense will stop (same with tebowmania). he and his boys did a "discount double choke" yesterday, so just handle it like a man and move on.
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 Fool? Who are you? Mr. T? Nothing to say about that "tuck rule" thing, huh? Not surprised. Who said Rodgers is the greatest QB of all-time? Sounds like something you are hoping someone says so you can kiss Brady's ass some more. I hope the Ravens kick your asses.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 the ravens kicking our asses? i guess its possible, but i doubt their cocky prison-gang defense can handle the likes of gronk, hernando, and welkah. and yeah you're totally right the patriots didn't deserve to win based on a rule that's completely legal according to the rule books:P
binarystar300 1 month ago
@binarystar300 And didn't Branch get away with offensive pass interference on his touchdown catch? Looked like an obvious push off that wasn't called.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 take that td away and the pats still win by 28 fool. next
binarystar300 1 month ago
didnt he do that when they first played the giants?
musclehamster909 1 month ago
packers r so overrated n it shoulded sunday
Naruto4289 1 month ago
Discount DoubleChoke
binarystar300 1 month ago
itws kinda true
BizcitDude16202 1 month ago
Skip is exactly right.. Rodgers sucked today.
JamesOwnzsam 1 month ago
Rogers is a beast, the fact that people are even arguing if he is better than Brady or not shows that he is elite. Oh and lets not forget about Brees, he should be thrown into the "best qb" conversation.
koonteriskool 1 month ago
@koonteriskool yea its funny how the guy with the nfl season record for passing doesn't seem to make it into the discussion, I would take drew brees any day over tom brady.
rocpet3 1 month ago
@rocpet3 You must be crazy...flashy numbers and big records mean nothing. At the end of the day Brady leads his team and has been the most proven QB of the past decade
cryps1 1 month ago
@cryps1 Brady hides behind probably the best offense in the NFL he has outstanding protection and when you have a dozen pro bowlers or pro bowl level players its not hard to be good. Drew Brees is able to make due with the resources he has, you saw what happened to reggie bush when he left the saints. Drew Brees did better than Tom Brady this year with a lot less talent on his team.
rocpet3 1 month ago
@rocpet3 the saints have two pro bowl guards so don't even try to rationalize that bs. it seems like every fan with a decent qb tries to argue that "my does so much with so little". the only decent qb with a shit o-line is cutler
binarystar300 1 month ago
@rocpet3 You're perspective is wrong dude. The reason Branch, Welker, Gronkowski, and Hernandez look like pro bowl players is because of BRADY. If Brady had receivers all over the field like Brees I'm sure he would have surpassed Marino's record by over 800 yards!!
cryps1 1 month ago
@cryps1 never said brady was a bad quarterback he is certainly one of the best but I would point out that if you look at stats brees has higher completion percentage and more yards per attempt than brady does the real issue comes in if you had to replace one of those two quarterbacks which team would be better off and im looking at the saints and I dont see them having a winning record without drew brees. pats can win games even without tom Brady as we saw in 2008.
rocpet3 1 month ago
@cryps1 I love how all you Patriots fans think Brady makes his receivers look good but when it comes to guys like Rodgers, his receivers make HIM look good. You just can't stand stand seeing another QB put up better numbers than your boy Brady. Name a great QB that didn't have a great receiver. Montana and Young had Jerry Rice. Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison. Don't bother with the would have, could haves. We could say Rodgers would have the passing yards record if he threw 657 times too.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 I'm not even a patriots fan lol I'm just a eagles fan (I know they sucked) who understands the consistent brilliance of Tom Brady through every single season...
cryps1 1 month ago
@cryps1 Look at Rodgers's numbers in his 4 starting seasons. Don't you think they look consistently brilliant?
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
where are alll the green bay fudge packers who were ripping me when i said they were gonna lose to San Fran or ATL in the playoffs? your invincible team didn't even get a chance to get shut down by san fran and you got owned by the team that beat atlanta. Aaron Rodgers is like tiger woods and can't come from behind. He can only win games when he has a huge lead going into sunday(the 4th quarter)
biga071488 1 month ago
I'm going to take a guess and say Skip will 100% blame Aaron Rodgers for the loss (even though the Giants are the best team left in the playoffs). But he will as many people blame the team for Tebow's loss b/c he claims A-rod is held to a higher standard. Please man sometimes I think Skip falls too much in love with these guys (i.e. him hating the fact Brett Favre didn't find another job. Get over yourself Please Mr. Gayless.....
reile567 1 month ago
Skip Bayless is the man , never a prisoner of the moment and speaks the TRUTH wheter you like it or not. He was right all along Lebron was a punk , Tebow a winner and Rodgers doesnt have the #ClutchGene
Knickmet2 1 month ago
@Knickmet2 Teblow is a winner? Oh, that must mean the Broncos beat the Patriots last night. Oh wait...
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Oh wait Tebow won one more playoff game than Aaron Rodgers this year lmaooo i hope ya boy makes some more commercial so i can see em on Fox next week while i watch my Giants play for the NFC title #DiscountDoubleChoke
Knickmet2 1 month ago
@Knickmet2 Oh wait, Rodgers has something Teblow will never have: a SB ring and MVP. Rodgers doesn't have the clutch gene, huh? I guess the fact that he won 3 road playoff games and the Super Bowl despite having no real running game and having 3 key players get hurt early in the SB isn't clutch. Was Teblow clutch against the Chiefs even though they only scored 7 points the whole game? Was Teblow clutch against the Patriots? He can beat the #1 defense but can't do shit against one of the worst?
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 just like Rodgers had to work to get there , Tebow has to do the same and i didnt say anything about Tebow being clutch in my comment tho
Knickmet2 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 ohhh and before you say im not smart it wasnt 10 dropped passes it was 6... i guess wiki isnt working that well for you right now
Ugodanny 1 month ago
WOW. Skip Bayless predicted Tim Tebow would have success and said Aaron Rodgers is not clutch. Skip Bayless is on a role. 2012 is his year
8000055 1 month ago
@8000055 Hard to be clutch when your receivers can't catch the ball.
Andothul 1 month ago