It`s heavy but freeze it with water or use white sand or wax seal each end that pipe will bend any direction you want I use to form exaust pipes and had to use lead shafts then melt it out no kinks can form same as sand or wax .
Good Idea here I like it might have to try it. just my 2 cents you could insulate it on the outside. might not look nice but might keep all the more heat in. lookin good though.
I hope that unit will be used in a well ventilated place. I've learned through experience that galvanized pipe gives off some nasty toxic fumes when it is used for a flue. I think it is possible to burn all the zinc and stuff off of there but you'd need to get it really hot to do that completely. At normal operating temperatures a galvanized flue will slowly gas off and saturate your body with toxins over time. Maybe that's one reason they don't make 'em anymore.
Best Way to get rid of the "kinks" is to use a Monkeywrench!
Place the opening at a area with even diameter and skrew the wrench tight. Then ease your way to the kink and then twist the wrench carefully in both directions. Do this back an forth, til the kink is gone.
Sometimes when the kink is to flattened open the wrench a little and then twist it. When its a little rounded out, start closing the wrench a little and twist and just continue to close it till all rounded out.
Be very careful that your water temperature does not get too high. I assume you are heating a tank and providing both hot water radiators and domestic water. Over a period of low water use temperatures will rise rapidly and build pressures. Longer pipe heats quickly but temperature may not be controlable.
Either way, it has the chance of leaking if I do it! I must say though, I do pretty well at brazing. Electrical soldering too. Sweat soldering for some reason seems to escape me. I sweat solderd this, but I'll definitely be testing it before installation!
Good job. I was thinking that for the area around the pipe join, it might be better to push the pipe over from the other side, rather than pulling it over. Like a few other people in the comments here, I'd like to see the completed project, too. Interesting stuff.
Thanks for the reminder, gotta get a coal fire laid up for tonight.Great idea, can't believe I never thought to try that.I heard about copper being the opposite of steel, in that if you heat copper and let it air cool, it gets hard, but if you water quench it, it gets soft.Never tried it but that might be why it kinked right at your joint.
A good way to unkink copper tubing is to take a crescent wrench adjusted to about the outside diameter of the tubing and start in a round area near the kink. Working the crescent wrench in a motion like you are tightening then loosening a nut on the tubing will work the tubing back into an almost proper shape. It is better than your PVC method, I promise. Try it and let me know! I do it all the time when working with tubing other people have kinked. I get to make it all better. lol
@ElderlyIron - That will work too! I have shown a lot of fellow workers that trick. - - I forgot to mention that on thick kinks be sure to open the crescent wrench and work it a little at a time to avoid knicking the copper. Basicly remolding the shape round a little at a time.
You may already know this but be careful that the flue gas temperature does not cool off too much inside the pipe or the moisture in the exhaust will condense on the exhaust pipe walls and on the exhaust pipe vent cap. That will cause severe corrosion. If that condensed moisture drips onto a metal roof or other roof, it can damage the roof material.
I would agree if I were 1) putting the coil inside the pipe, or 2)Running a coolant in direct contact with the pipe. As it is, the coil only make contact here and there. Otherwise, it's only getting the radiant heat and little if any conductive heat.
@ElderlyIron - Thanks. I was just pointing it out. I don't know how much it cools down the pipe and wanted to inform you IF you did not know but apparently you do. Good luck.
Jeff, I'm curious now. Are ya hooking the copper pipe to a tank or just running it straight to a tap? It sounds like a better way to save money on the ol heating bill but ya just kinda left us hang out to dry on this one. I understand the end result is hot water by using heat that is escaping out the pipe. But, we still have no idea how ya hook this ingenious idea up. (Jim)
The plan is two-fold. I have a heat exchanger/radiator that I want to put under the kitchen sink. (Coldest spot in the house come winter) I intend to have a circulator pump cycling to that heat exchanger. That will prevent pressure from building in the system. Once you open a hot water tap, then it's supposed to route the hot water to the house plumbing. Haven't drawn the diagram yet, but I'll get there!
Yup a water heater, uhhhhhhhhhhh huhhh. Looks like a berry nice shinner still coil to me Jeff. Well a great way to throw others off the tract LOL. Well done bud. and I think and hope it will work great. Working on getting my shop woodie burner ready for the colder weather here also. RL (Olddude)
I love the GMC in the background! My dad and I just bought a 56 GMC 150 Long bed. Were going to cut the frame, and convert it into a short bed. Possibly put a mustang front suspension on also because the suspension on it now it to stiff. Will be a fun project, and a awesome cruiser. Can't wait to see more of your videos!
Water heater? Ha!
You ain't makin' hooch there, are ya?
RandallFlaggNY 3 days ago
Hey, I wanted to try that, have you got it set-up yet? How well does it work?
Mallan530 3 weeks ago
It`s heavy but freeze it with water or use white sand or wax seal each end that pipe will bend any direction you want I use to form exaust pipes and had to use lead shafts then melt it out no kinks can form same as sand or wax .
MrMrtiki 1 month ago
dont know how I missed this video.. I was on the road when you put it up.. how much water does the pipe hold?
1963impala2dr 1 month ago
Good Idea here I like it might have to try it. just my 2 cents you could insulate it on the outside. might not look nice but might keep all the more heat in. lookin good though.
MoeDCFCD91 1 month ago
I hope that unit will be used in a well ventilated place. I've learned through experience that galvanized pipe gives off some nasty toxic fumes when it is used for a flue. I think it is possible to burn all the zinc and stuff off of there but you'd need to get it really hot to do that completely. At normal operating temperatures a galvanized flue will slowly gas off and saturate your body with toxins over time. Maybe that's one reason they don't make 'em anymore.
04023088 2 months ago
@04023088
The galvanized is only for making the coil. The coil will go around the pipe currently installed to the stove.
ElderlyIron 2 months ago
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04023088 2 months ago
@ElderlyIron Good to hear! I think you'll get great heat transfer with that setup. When's the next video comin' out?
04023088 2 months ago
Best Way to get rid of the "kinks" is to use a Monkeywrench!
Place the opening at a area with even diameter and skrew the wrench tight. Then ease your way to the kink and then twist the wrench carefully in both directions. Do this back an forth, til the kink is gone.
Sometimes when the kink is to flattened open the wrench a little and then twist it. When its a little rounded out, start closing the wrench a little and twist and just continue to close it till all rounded out.
Good luck :)
danthefrst 2 months ago
where is part 2 can,t wait to see how it works.
werb1961 3 months ago
dear sir
The problem with the copper pipes is that it is difficult to the bend without smashing
by the way
There are stores in plumbers these 2 tools One is the spring
The other is a tool for greater degrees
there and 2 in various dimensions
I hope to help
TheKatr2 4 months ago
Be very careful that your water temperature does not get too high. I assume you are heating a tank and providing both hot water radiators and domestic water. Over a period of low water use temperatures will rise rapidly and build pressures. Longer pipe heats quickly but temperature may not be controlable.
msweetums7 4 months ago
thats a great idea jeff I need to do that to my wood stove
DanTheFordFixer 4 months ago
nice video
in the market there's a special spring is very handy (for the next time)
TheKatr2 4 months ago
@TheKatr2
Available in 3/4 inch?
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
did you soft solder or braze your joints? brazing is best.
januaryman169 4 months ago
@januaryman169
Either way, it has the chance of leaking if I do it! I must say though, I do pretty well at brazing. Electrical soldering too. Sweat soldering for some reason seems to escape me. I sweat solderd this, but I'll definitely be testing it before installation!
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
You could have annealed the pipe to make it easier to work with.
browncarp 4 months ago
@browncarp
I tried to buy Schedule K, but it was no longer available. L was the next best thing.
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
Good job. I was thinking that for the area around the pipe join, it might be better to push the pipe over from the other side, rather than pulling it over. Like a few other people in the comments here, I'd like to see the completed project, too. Interesting stuff.
HD41117 4 months ago
Crescent wrench method sounds the best, or you might have just cut off the straight stub at the curve.
planefloat 4 months ago
The blue one
blackmetalofnorway1 4 months ago
The gmc in the backround looks awsome. What year and modelname?
blackmetalofnorway1 4 months ago
@blackmetalofnorway1
1956 GMC 250. 1.5 ton factory V-8, automatic, tach, clock and 4 wheel drive. Been dead for 20 years...
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
Fill the pipe full of sand. That will stop the kinking problem
bubbarules1978 4 months ago
@bubbarules1978
It's heavy NOW!
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
you said learning curve, hehe
mustie1 4 months ago
@mustie1
Rats. Missed my own pun...
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
Good idea, for your stickers can you please send me your pay-pal info, as a PM.
redneckbryon 4 months ago
Thanks for the reminder, gotta get a coal fire laid up for tonight.Great idea, can't believe I never thought to try that.I heard about copper being the opposite of steel, in that if you heat copper and let it air cool, it gets hard, but if you water quench it, it gets soft.Never tried it but that might be why it kinked right at your joint.
heliarche 4 months ago
A good way to unkink copper tubing is to take a crescent wrench adjusted to about the outside diameter of the tubing and start in a round area near the kink. Working the crescent wrench in a motion like you are tightening then loosening a nut on the tubing will work the tubing back into an almost proper shape. It is better than your PVC method, I promise. Try it and let me know! I do it all the time when working with tubing other people have kinked. I get to make it all better. lol
specialks1953 4 months ago
@specialks1953
I'll try that for the next video. I hate that kink... I think I'll use 2 and work them both toward each other.
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
@ElderlyIron - That will work too! I have shown a lot of fellow workers that trick. - - I forgot to mention that on thick kinks be sure to open the crescent wrench and work it a little at a time to avoid knicking the copper. Basicly remolding the shape round a little at a time.
specialks1953 4 months ago
You may already know this but be careful that the flue gas temperature does not cool off too much inside the pipe or the moisture in the exhaust will condense on the exhaust pipe walls and on the exhaust pipe vent cap. That will cause severe corrosion. If that condensed moisture drips onto a metal roof or other roof, it can damage the roof material.
specialks1953 4 months ago
@specialks1953
I would agree if I were 1) putting the coil inside the pipe, or 2)Running a coolant in direct contact with the pipe. As it is, the coil only make contact here and there. Otherwise, it's only getting the radiant heat and little if any conductive heat.
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
@ElderlyIron - Thanks. I was just pointing it out. I don't know how much it cools down the pipe and wanted to inform you IF you did not know but apparently you do. Good luck.
specialks1953 4 months ago
could you post a vid of the finished project?
austinaubinoe 4 months ago
@austinaubinoe
Looks like I'm gonna HAFTA now!
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
Jeff, I'm curious now. Are ya hooking the copper pipe to a tank or just running it straight to a tap? It sounds like a better way to save money on the ol heating bill but ya just kinda left us hang out to dry on this one. I understand the end result is hot water by using heat that is escaping out the pipe. But, we still have no idea how ya hook this ingenious idea up. (Jim)
wyattearp1969 4 months ago
@wyattearp1969
The plan is two-fold. I have a heat exchanger/radiator that I want to put under the kitchen sink. (Coldest spot in the house come winter) I intend to have a circulator pump cycling to that heat exchanger. That will prevent pressure from building in the system. Once you open a hot water tap, then it's supposed to route the hot water to the house plumbing. Haven't drawn the diagram yet, but I'll get there!
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
That's alot of copper ! I bet that was a bit of cash ! I hope to see the 56 4x4 1ton in one of the up coming videos keepe'm coming Jeff !
ruwithlee1970 4 months ago
just a thought but send the cold water in through the top, other wise youl end up heatin the water up and coolin it again
chopywatersofmantuki 4 months ago
@chopywatersofmantuki
Already in the plan. The closer to the stove, the higher the temp.
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
Nice to see ya!!
severine999 4 months ago
Yup a water heater, uhhhhhhhhhhh huhhh. Looks like a berry nice shinner still coil to me Jeff. Well a great way to throw others off the tract LOL. Well done bud. and I think and hope it will work great. Working on getting my shop woodie burner ready for the colder weather here also. RL (Olddude)
Thisoldcar 4 months ago 2
@Thisoldcar
Hey RL! Any progress on that Impala?
You're probably yhe only one on YouTube old enough to remember the Prohibition, eh??
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
I love the GMC in the background! My dad and I just bought a 56 GMC 150 Long bed. Were going to cut the frame, and convert it into a short bed. Possibly put a mustang front suspension on also because the suspension on it now it to stiff. Will be a fun project, and a awesome cruiser. Can't wait to see more of your videos!
TheHondadirtbiker 4 months ago
@TheHondadirtbiker
Where's the video? Video man, VIDEO!!
ElderlyIron 4 months ago
My daughters cat does, she just wistles LOL just like a dog LOL... and awesome idea with the stove pipe!!
stressfactor03 4 months ago
nice man i like it your vids are awsome
leemspoor 4 months ago