Isn't it amazing that ALL the Videos of CAIRTV do not allow for commenting? They are so willing to support freedom of speech that they can't allow for anyone to proclaim anything different from them.. Taqayya at it's worst!!!!
This is going to end badly. In America. Liberty will not be undone by fools with hideous opinions and a vote. The last vote in America will not be to undo our liberties. (And fuc! you, you nasty little anti-semites. We stand with Israel.)
@CARDUELIS999 The reason why Muslims hate the US is because you stand with Israel. Which , by the way, conducts massive amounts of torture, has illegal chemical weapons, has over 200 nuclear weapons and doesn't sign any international treaties and has a lobby in the states (AIPAC) that pushed for war in Iraq and sanctions on ME countries. Do Muslims have holidays that celebrate the killing of non Muslims, just as the Jews do? I Muslims hated freedom and democracy, why don't they attack Iceland?
@MrJapaneseboy1111 fucking ignorant.......watch ur mouth u piece of shytt...maybe u need to go back to japan and die there in one of them earthquake or tsunamis lol
@MrJapaneseboy1111 u see the more u talk the more u make an ass of urself.......u mothafucka not all of us are arafat supporters.....so guess what fuck u and fuck arafat........
Faggggg....and u keep saying go back go back.....bitchass maybe u should go back to japan to the most fucked up and pooriest country there....at least in palestine we aint got hoes that u can fuck in the street for a 1$.....annd prob. ur mother and sister are one of hustlers in da street
U guys buy this Islamofascism WEEK ? That's LAME man ...
Its kindda sad man ... I mean , for Independence .. we only get 1 DAY, AIDS Awareness; thats 1 DAY, n yeah.. Mother n Father's .. thats 1 DAY , Childrens's DAY =1, WTF ... even Christmas 25th Dec... ONLY 1 DAY... man .. to LOVE.. we're given ONLY 1 DAY !
But hey.... to HATE ... Islamofascism .... it takes a FREAKING WEEK !
That's alot of HATE there ... I mean are we eligible for such off days if we work in a jewish organisation ?
So you send me a PM to an article, which I have already read previously, and was written by someone other than Mr. Horowitz.
I will not attack you, because it's your right to contest someone on the basis of truth. I will contest the argument you're making though. If you had any previous knowledge of his work, you would be aware that you are falling into the same paradigm most of his detractor's fall into. Looking for evidence that support's you position rather than basing your position on fact.
Notice he doesn't cite a single professor's name, that he references a doctrine, but no actual words from it, and claims they are genocidal, but make no mention of any words they used.
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The ironic thing is that Horowitz just changed from the Communist party to the Fascist party, but Americans are too retarded to know what a Fascist actually is. They think it's just people who want to kill Jews. Fascism is corporatism combined with a government that runs the media or a media that runs it.
@Joe11Blue Economic fascism is when the government supports certain favored corporations.
Social fascism is when you fabricate history to support an agenda.
Things like the Palestinians never existed, that they moved into the area after Jewish people made it bloom, that they have no distinct culture, that Israel has always pursed peace and are "serious about it", etc.
If Israel wanted peace, they would have put up the separation wall on the 1967 boarders and declared 2 states. Simple
@fuzzywzhe Child I know what Fascism is. You however claim that he's a fascist. Which is completely untrue. It's even more interesting that you did it right after you called for him to cite sources, without citing any yourself.
Just a reminder, Fascist's were left-winger's as well.
@Joe11Blue "You however claim that he's a fascist. Which is completely untrue."
David Horowitz fabricates an propagates myths about Israel in order to support Israel, constantly. He's a fascist. He lies about history, in other words, he engages in clear propaganda in order to support Israel.
Just like Hitler made up a bullshit story about the fictional aryan race of Germans, just as the Japanese did.
Media lies all the time to support Israel now. It's CLEARLY fascism.
@Joe11Blue Fine, If I go through the trouble of looking up and citing ALL OF HIS lies, will you then admit what actually is?
Or will this just be a waste of my time?
Horowitz is a gross liar, but you won't see him lying when he's debating Finkelstein, because Finkelstein will call him right out - that's why Horowitz gets all fuzzy about facts when ht talks to Finkelstein and appeals to emotion.
He knows he lying.
So, is it worth the effort for me to spend a few hours, and drum the lies out?
@Joe11Blue "f the proof is real how can anyone deny it?"
Like you will.
Google this, "In another instance, Horowitz stated that a Pennsylvania State University biology professor showed his students the film Fahrenheit 9/11 just before the 2004 election in an attempt to influence their votes."
That's a trivial example to find. I have to do some work today, so I'll let you refute that, and I will spoonfeed you as many examples as I have to, and watch you deny them all.
@fuzzywzhe Once again real proof. No backpedaling after your claim's now.
See you defeated yourself by assuming I would deny anything you state, without even being aware of my stand on the subject.
Just a side note, if you make a claim, this goes for any subject field, the responsibility of proof is on the claimant. Any properly educated person would be aware of this.
I'll give you a hint of my stand. I want to see proof of any claim's whether they be Mr Horowitz's, or your's.
@Joe11Blue "Once again real proof. No backpedaling after your claim's now."
Why would I have to back peddle?
"See you defeated yourself by assuming I would deny anything you state,"
I am making, perhaps the incorrect assumption, that you know SOMETHING about David Horowitz when you deny he's a fascist. Do you know NOTHING about him? It's pretty easy to find out what he's lied about.
I'm not hear to educate you either. It's probably a waste of my time. I ask you again - is it?
You made the claim's, the burden of proof is on you. I'm still waiting. If it's so easy to find this proof then it would have been quicker for you to post it here than to drag out this argument. I'm beginning to doubt the legitimacy of your claim's though. In fact you are starting to sound like some of the same people that Mr. Horowitz speak's about in his Indoctrination series.
I gave a clear example of him telling a falsification for purely political purposes. Do you need more examples? It does take time to look them up, figure out how to allow you to search for them, and then verify them.
@fuzzywzhe Just to add, spoonfeeding is what you do when someone is seeking information and is unwilling to look for it. In this case, you are making a claim, and discounting my demand of proof for "YOUR" claim, rather than me asking you out of context for information. It would not be spoonfeeding, it would be substantiating your claim's, or leaving them baseless.
Just to note, his comment on the Fahrenheit 9/11 is honest, as that was purely a political attack on the incumbent.
yes many would you like to help with some ? for instance can you explain why it is ok in the koran to lie ? or why one of Allahs 99 names would be the deciever ? or why muslims that i have met are so quick to talk about the crusades ? you see three hundred year before the christian crusades the muslims were crusading in europe ? but thats ok ,,,,
#2-Cause This is the only word we found in English...English is a language with NO ENOUGH words to translate our OLD AMAZING language. :)If u wanna know wut it means..read the explanation of it :)
#3 three hundred? maybe..but u 4got that Christianity existed b4 Islam??and if u want modern issue..ABUGREB JAILS?IRAQ?AFGHANISTAN?SUPPORT OF ISRAEL?wut else u want? :)
no your lieng that not the only translation its the correct translation ,,, and please answer why its ok for muhamed to marry a 6 year old girl ? then rape her at 9 ? oh and i have lots of questions ,,, some that make the highest educated muslims walk away ,,, and some actually leave islam after they find the truth ,,,, you think i dont know the koran ,,,,LOL you are wrong and its my burden to show you .
"The Muslim Student Association was created by Hammas and is funded by Saudi Arabia...they support our enemies"
How does a guy like this get on tv?
The MSA and the Arab Student Organization on Duke's campus is funded by DUKE not SAUDI ARABIA. This is slander and I refuse to hear it! This "man" knows nothing about the Arabic/Muslim culture. He should stick to "WASPs for Dummies" and leave the real talk to intelligent people.
that's it. Box your ears and refuse to know the truth. Good luck to you in life- you'll need it, especially when you confront someone you disagree with.
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Well I am a Muslim, who is well versed in the religion, and also well versed in common sense and logic, unlike Fattboy. If Muhammad's marriage to Aishah was morally incorrect, then why did none of his followers have a problem with it? Why did none of his enemies have a problem with it? Is it not true that Aisha was engaged to another much older man BEFORE she got engaged to the prophet?
It's my understanding any critic of your prophet was put to death. I do know a would be assassin was sparred death. Never the less this would explain no criticism. Now culturally it is an aberration in any society for this type of union. I am not judging him or the union but it is not a typical thing. But one thing is for certain he was a ladies man. I find nothing wrong with this.
Im fairly sure this was not an aberration. In semetic cultures and every culture inbetween women were wedded after their first menses. Jim West, PhD, a Baptist minister, observes the following tradition of the Israelites: The wife was to be taken from within the larger family circle (usually at the outset of puberty or around the age of 13) in order to maintain the purity of the family line.4
Is it not true that according to the Catholic Encyclopedia the Virgin Mary was betrothed to Joseph when he was senile and she was between twelver and fourteen? So if you're going to ACT like a religous expert, at least GET OFF YOUR ASS and do the proper well rounded research.
Another convert that did not do much research I have met many before. You joined islam because you have a chip on your shoulder the size of a mosque. You have not really studied it much as I can see by your posts. If you are going to CONVERT to another relgion GET OFF YOUR ASS and do some research.
one site i've been to said that israel is prepared to use nuclear terror to become the dominant force in the region and to get the arabs to accept hegemony
Africans dont kill for fun? Hmmm Rawanda comes to mind where they made a sport of it. Uganda where Adi Amin Muslim had fun killing people many people. Somaila, Sierrie Leone, Ethopia, Congo Shit nearly all of Africa. Look you need to pull your head out of your ass.
Your right!! I kill all the time for the fun. Beats boredom. How old are you? This conversation is denegrating please have some sensible comment. And I think you live in the USA? If you do you should think about leaving if this is you opinion. I cannot stand muslims who hate the west but live in the west.
furthermore i laugh at the idea of western philosophy being a triumph or victory. fascism socialism communism materialism nationalism. all killed over 250+ million people. welcome to the real dark ages
What they have to offer the world. Tyranical religous fools. Illiteracy, stonings, beheadings, oppression of women and minorities. Yes you right you have so much we want. I can see that in how many muslims immigrate to the West compared to Westerners immigrating to Islamic nations.
lol. islam discovered that the worth was round 700 years in baghdad before the west. timbuktu also discovered that the world was round. actually the west didn't discover it because it took some retard that didn't know where he was going to sail blindly and disocer that the world wasn't flat
Really was that Islam? Hmmm Isalm thought the sun set in a murkey pond. And that the world was like a bed flat? And other scientific mavels like Sperm comes from the backbone. NOW THAT IS ISLAM. And you can have it.
Horowitz is a traitor and should be tried and punished as such. If he were alive in 1930s Germany, he would bend over for Hitler the same way he is now bending over for the Fascists who are quickly conquering this great nation of ours from the inside. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
Oh he is a traitor that would bend over for Hitler? Have you ever asked a muslim what he thinks of the Jewish people and then Hitler. No I think Horowitz is like Churchill before the war warning of the dark clouds to come.
David Horowitz is a jew who is looking to win favour with christians , but christians are to stupid to see it.
David Horowitz is a jewish version of a wahabi , he is a zionist extreamist.
Wake up people, Wake up !
I am a christian conservative and i do'nt fall for this zionist who he and hi brothers support multiculturalism and liberalism , he is a poser . Do your research christian brothers.
Personal attack is all most of you have against Horowitz. I dont see many of you have a logical arguement to oppose him. Israel is a appartied? hmmmm so minorities in nations such as saudi arabia can they practice there beliefs and customs. Islam is one of the most appartied beliefs systems around if you not muslim you can pay a tax, convert or warfare under islamic law.
Reeeeally. Can you explain what part I dont understand. I dont understand the political correct, sugar coated, watered down version of islam that cultural apologists like to use.
I tottaly agree with radical Islam, The Koran says, defend your home, defend your famili, defend your land. Were getting fucking attacked every day, in Palæstine, Iraq, afghanistan, shit all were doing is defending ourselves!.. When Muslims controlled the middle east, there was peace, cuz Islam respects all religions, but when the jews got help from America they startet the muslim oppression..! You reaaally don't understand people or Islam!
Well I am happy that you can admit that you like radical islam. So your history of defence like when islam attack Egypt, Syria, Persia, The Holy Land, Turkey, North Africa, Spain, Greece, the Balkans and Southern France were all peaceful. Sorry my friend I judge islam based on it overall history not since 2003. Ps Ask the Kurds how there peaceful fellow Muslims treat them.
Yeahh and im proud.. you Look at Islam not the people, kurds got gassed by people who dont really beleive in Islam! Get your fat narrowminded head realeased from the Zionistic brain washing, that you apparently got infected with!
Oh your proud of your religion attacking and subduing others but when others do it to you that is the part you dont like? The Kurds were gassed by people who dont really believe in islam? So not only the Sunni Iraqis were attacking them also Turkey and Iran (majority Shiah). So now when confronted you attack the messenger and not the arguement typical islamic tactic. Islam is the most intolerate around. Converts like yourself have a chip on your shoulder the size of a mosque.
So that is it huh? When confronted by a person who is not swayed by political correctness or a cultural apologist you run after your rant on being a zionist. Do yourself a favour and educate yourself and take that chip off your shoulder.
Look at the fucking titel! Mussolini once said, that fascism should rather be called corporatism, as its the merger of corparate and government, is that Islam? Or is that America? Educate your self! And yes i want Israel destroyed, it has n right to exist, when its an occupation and oppression of a people, yeah, when a palestinien gets kidnapped by israel nobodycares when its a jew the world explodes. Zionist fuck
Really well Fascist nations are not democratic even if corporations are merged. You want Israel destroyed? Did you care when Jordan killed 75 000 Palastinians when they expelled them? I bet you did not know that but hey if a muslim kills a muslim no problems when a Jew or Christian does DAMM. them. Next time when you listening to your rat bag imam use you brains and stop feeling sorry for yourself.
I dont know where you get youre zionist news from, but you really aint got a grip on reality. And by the way, no turkey did not attack civilian kurds nor did Iran, Iran only defended itself from saddam, who was not a muslim!
Turkey did not attack Kurds oh right so when they use F 16s against them that is not attacking when they mobilise their army on the border with them that is saying hi we love you? Iran and Turkey continually attack the kurds only now in post saddams iraq they are safe. Get you head out of your ass.
Like the civilians killed in Palestine? Like the civilians killed in Afghanistan? Like the civilians killed ind Iraq? Its clear you only think about civilians when there at use for your cheap political points! There is no reason for US involvment in Islamic countries, oops sorry, forgot that you wanted to steal our oil! Stay the fuck out of our countries and 9/11 would never have happend!
For a muslim convert you knowledge of islam is limited like you. Islam for 1400 years has been attacking others and now that majority Islamic nations are weak you are now playing victim. Muslims kill more Muslims than the West has. But this you dont care about you only care about a Muslim death when it gives you some ammunition to hate the West.
Oh yes there is a big Zoinist Alien Fat Albert conspiracy. And we are all picking on poor peaceful islam. The religion of peace that has never hurt a fly. And I bet you have the proof. A couple of websites. And you hatred for anything not islamic. You and your imam must spend many days talking about this zionist conspiracy.
Shit yeah.. Why you think we support Israel as if we America was jewish? Cus were nice and we want to help, just for the sake of helping? Shit no, and this aint got nothing to do with Islam, its about fascism and America becming a fascist state, no argue! Bush changed laws, so he can in an emergency inforce marshall law! Bush cant stop truth and the American will, which is not corporations, Will win!
Truth hmmmm. If you want to talk about facism lets talk about islamofacism. The most intolerate facism there is. Lets stop the somkescreen Israel is about less that 1% of the middle east. They have turned the desert in a rich area that could fed the middle east where as the muslims preside over cesspools. Israel is an affront to muslims because they are everything muslims are not successful. Your former dimmnis are better than muslims and muslims cannot stand this.
Really if i remember right Iran is threatening to wipe Israel off the map. If Israel wanted to wipe an Arab nation off the map it could no threats needed. How come other middle eastern nations are struggling so much. Wonder why could it be islam?
gee wizz fatboy. let's look at the quote archive shall we. "arabs may have the oil but we have the matches". under israel foreign policy is a plan called the samson option. in wich if israel's security is seriously threatened it will decide to hit every state it deems "enemy" and neutralize them along with israel. it's called the samson option because of the biblical story of samson when he brought down the temple to kill the caananites and himself.
hmm islam eh? that sure would explain why SECULAR states like turkey and egypt are broke poor and hungry. hey here's a thought. go to google and type in cordoba. haha could it be islam. lol. islam was the leading civilization until the west discovered gunpowder. lol
Billion? Hmmm what part of you ass did you pull that figure from? As I said if YOU dont want Israel to attack DONT ATTACK THEM. It so easy. Israel has a nuclear capablilty which it has not used. I wonder if Iran had weapons would it show restraint? I doubt it.
there's no excuse for this sort of global nuclear terrorism. justifying it makes you a terror supporter. israel shouldn't USE nuclear weapons ever. noone should use nukes. and no matter how demonized iran is i know that a nuke in there hands is much safer than israel's.
Ok ok misunderstanding I thought you meant Arab nations or any other that posed a immediate threat. And if a nation existence is in threat well what do u expect. Now for nuclear weapons being in Iran is safer than Isreal that is like give a Nuclear bomb to the Nazis in ww2. No Israel is a much safer bet than a dictatorship.
israelis are nazis! there aggressive they terrorize civilian populatios for 2 kidnapped soldiers. they've ethnically cleansed palestine the golan heights and the sinai. iran hasn't attacked anybody in centuries! even though i aggree with you on them being a dictatorship. iran has it's head screwed on much tighter than israel.
Iraelis are nazis? What a stupid comment that is. Coming from muslims which admire the nazis which call the holocost a hoax. Which refer to Jews as vermin and pigs. Which ask for the destruciton of Isreal. Even in the koran is calls for the killing of Jews. And you call them Nazi. No your the Nazis.
israelis are nationalist. there supremacist they dream of nuking the world and they committ ethnic cleansing. the soviet union was terrified of israel all throughout the cold war.
where does it say kill yahud?
they are pigs and monkeys. the jews who behave like that pigs and monkeys. but on the same accord the taliban are pigs and monkeys
Oh really where did you hear that? Not a propaganda islamic site? They are always truthful lol. Well as I said its simple do not ATTACK!!! It is that SIMPLE. Do not ATTACK. See if I had a gun and you attacked me with a knife I would still shoot you even if my weapon is more deadlier.
no i got this from history. india then north africa then indonesia/maylasia then persia pakistan and afghanistan. then mesopotamia and finally turkey itself. an amazing fact is that saudi arabia is one of the 4 countries that weren't colonized. those are japan n and s korea and of course saudi arabia
Most of the nations you mention were invaded by the muslims. Persia one of the most sophistacated nations in ancient times is a 3rd world cesspool controlled by mullahs. Sad. Egypt another nation with potential now a joke needing foriegn aid. Well done islam.
muslims didn't pervert destroy and exploit these civilizations as your image of the arab hooded rider holding a sword in one hand and quran in the other continues to be exposed. Those fire worshippers weren't contributing anything to humanity. neither were those pissy byzantines. they were oppressors. they heavily taxed the people established oppressive rules and conditions were cruel hygiene below tolerable. religiously intolerant...
Sorry see you need to read the Koran. To see how infidels are to be treated under islamic law Shariah. In fact you calling the Taliban pigs show that you are either a hypocrite or do nto know islam that well.
the rule of mullahs as you so claim began with the safavids a shiite extremist group that forced rafidhism on the population and force converted jews and christians. Iran under Sunni rule was a very intellectual philosophical and developing society. shias are very very regressive. and primitive. there not really about progressing or about knowledge. they've also been described throughout history as very unclean
wait. what does nuking russia have to do with do not attack? you know russia's going to nuke america if that happens right? israel doesn't have the right to act like a wild angry dog. lol
why are you justifying the use of nuclear weapons?
ha. i didn't get this from an islamic website. seymour hersh wrote a whole book on this called the samson option. maybe you should buy it and see what these nazis have in store for the world.
i guess when you see the word israel you see a happy smiling rabbi or some we want peace protestors. everyone else sees a big picture of laughing greedy right wing extremists like olmert netanyahu and sharon
No I only have to read Mein Kamph to understand what the Nazis had in store. And I only have to read the Koran to understand what the Muslims have in store. Both are horrible. And when I see Israel I see a nation wanting to be left alone and ready to fight if not.
yeah. i don't know if even hitler planned to nuke the world. well maybe. since he did think germany was the master race he could've saw logic in taking the world down with germany if germany was bound to lose.
really? is that why israel plans to reroute iraqi oil to haifa? go to wikipedia and type in jinsa. israelis are nice people. the people in power aren't. they actually have special zionist schools to keep the zionist monopoly going
are you justifying israel's plans to nuke the world? even if israel decides not to nuke russia. russia will probably hit us for allowing israel to do this
Depression is universal, Sucide well at least most do it to themselves and not blow up a bus, train or cafe. Serial killing 2 years ago in Iran there was a man killing children who was executed.
Drugs you have a drug problem to look at Pakistan and Iran. Lung cancer? was this a joke or what? Greed again universal, Promiscuity you do have a problem with sex dont you? Stealing? shit your right! I think we are the only culture that has it lol. Prosititutiion has been around since the start to time even in Iran and other islamic nation just hidden in fact in Iran you can marry a woman for an hour wonder why you would do that? Must be her personality. Fetishs You do have sex on the brain?
greed isn't universal. materialism isn't universal. serial killing isn't universal. serial killing isn't universal. serial killing isn't universal. what other culture kills people for fun? not even the africans do that. very sick indeed.
because shiites believe that temporary marriage is permissable
Stupidty must be universal you seem to suffer from it. GREED is universal everywhere people can be greedy does not matter the race culture or belief. Serial killing have been around yes some cultures have it more than others. Materialism is part of greed and is universal what hole do you hide you head in?
you mean like the state greed that the west suffers from? it's like greed is the state religion or something. it's the american dream to get rich isn't it?
Look I dont live in the USA but have visited it a few times most Americans just get by sure there are greedy people but they are everywhere not exclusively in the USA. Please grow up.
Oh really I can see that in the disparity between the rich and poor in islamic nations.
I am amazed there is no proverty in islamic nations because people are giving so much LOL. Damm and here I am living in a poor Western nation. What are you doing in the poor USA?
By all means have that way of life and look how it is working in islamic nations. Everyone wants to immigrate to islamic lands to live the good life. ISLAM gives the Kaffirs 3 choices 1 CONVERT 2 Submit and pay a tax 3 Or die. My friend to implement that I think there would be bullets invovled.
what about reading theodore hertzl's book? i heard it's similar to mein kempf. it contains the recently thrown away notion of a greater israel stretched from the nile to the euphrates including syria jordan lebanon the sinai and even medinah(can you believe it!?). while moderate extremists like olmert have thrown away the notion of israeli expansion. netanyahu and many others might still have the notion on there mind.
If you want to read about similar to Mein Kamph read the Koran. Israel wants to expand? Does islam? I hear mullahs and other nutcases saying how islam will rule the world and you only have to read the koran to see where they recieve their inspiration. Islam want to dominate by either peaceful or non peaceful ways.
islam is a religion way of life and ideaology. it has as much as a right to expand globally as capitalism. it's a war of ideas. there's no need to get bullets involved.
Your right islam is a way of life Mohammed way of life. If you want to copy a man that had sex with child of 9 Aisha, assassinated female poetess a mother of 5 for writing poetry critizing him. Having 11 wives at one time when he said no more than 4. Committing genocide by killing all the males of a Jewish tribe, taking his adopted son wife.
Her age is mentioned in numerous hadiths as being 9 in fact it was clear on her age when she was molested not only by Tabari but also Bukhari. She must have been 18? Where is your evidence?
Can you show me where I wrote that I am going to harm any muslims?
Your knowledge in islam is poor. Are you a convert? If so you have not researched your religion very well.
back to what i was saying. al andulas was a very philosophical society. in cordoba 90,000 books were wrote a year coming from a population of 500,000 while modern spain with a population of 20 million only produced some 60,000 books. the city was filled with gardens flowers great architecture tremendous wealth. Cordoba was actually basically the capital of europe until the ignorant spanish "retook" it.
The golden age of islam? Was in areas that were conquered by muslims where there was still a large proportion of disbelievers and muslims taxed them and used their services. Islam intellectually is a failure. It has not really contributed to science or technology. I know you will post things muslims claimed to have invented which they did not. And by the way the muslims had gunpowder to so your point there is lame. The Jews have won over 167 noble prizes lets compare that to Islams 7.
no you don't know anything about history. you claim that non muslims were the main contributers to intillectuallism in islamic societies. if you went to wikipedia and typed in islamic philosophy you'd see that's not the case. Islam is the only religion where it'
s PART OF IT'S CREED. to learn and think and ponder and teach. islamic cities like cordoba baghdad timbuktu and damascus were practically built on knowledge seeking knowledge learning and philosophy
Oh right? Oh yes I can see that for the last 500 years islam has been a real powerhouse in science arts technology. They have invented many things hmmm none come to mind. Ok lets go to one of islams few shining lights Cordoba to show it not a failure. That is like saying well even though I failed school I passed a test.
Hmmm such a smart intelligent society conquered by us simple westerners. How did that happen? Must have fluked it? Islam is like a parasite it lived on other cultures glories and work and took them as its own. Now when the populance and majority muslim and they now have really nothing to show for it except a chip on thier shoulders.
i think i'll pull up a quote from samuel huntington on this
"the west didn't conquer the world by it's ideas but by it's ability to use organized force. the west has forgotten this the rest of the world haven't"
Well like you Samuel Huntington was entitled to his opinion. That does not mean that he is right. How did we become so organised??? Did we find a magic tree and wish really hard? How did we become industralised and modernised? How? Did we steal a magic wand from islam now we are smarter and you?
i don't know. when you live in a city filled with rats and stench the only thing that comes to your mind is...killing and warfare. industrialization and modernization are AMERICAN LIBERAL IDEAS. this didn't come from england or poland or france. in fact most modern inventions from tv to the telephone to industry to electricity came from...america. you'd be surprised how much people think once catholic popes stop giving fatwas calling for the death of science and thought
AS i said I like history not the revised bullshit version of it. France England GERMANY were at the forefront of industralisation. So I suggest read more history and less koran. Yes Catholics did comdemn people to death Islam still does. See we became smarter. Now look at all westernised nation compared to islamic ones.
Yes lets look at it if two consenting adults want sex in private that is their business not your mullahs. Porn so what as long as it does not involve minors how does that concern you? In fact the downloads of porn is very high in islamic nations.
these cities were not "golden ages" because of dhimmi taxes that were collected. the islamic golden age was largely because of a change in arab thought in the field of economics agriculture and industry. due to islam. islam actually created the first market economy. and islamic cities were clean and hygenic while western countries were filthy and unclean.
Yes I have to agree Europe went through a dark age where relgion ruled with an iron fist and knowledge was dormant. Now just because you overran Persia, Egypt, the Byzantium Empire and Greece and had the sense to use their knowledge does not mean that you invented anything do you UNDERSTAND? That is like me buying a car and telling people I invented it.
i didn't say islam invented philosophy. it did reinvent it and spreaded it around the world. do you see the same scenario playing out if pagan arabs created the same empire?
This guy is really stupid, first he said Muslim Student Association(MSA) is supported by Wahabies, which is false, No One outside of America supports a Muslim Organization on Campuses, second he said Wahabis like Hamas, Hamas are wahabies, they follow the Muslim brotherhood which was invented by Saed Qutb and are in no way "Wahabies"
He's definitely not stupid; such comments do not lend strength to your position. Although he may have some details wrong, his general perspective has validity. Islam, a great religion, has a minority within it which is a cancer to the whole. If it spreads, it will destroy its host, and, ultimately, itself. Where ARE the peace lovers of Islam?
Yeah he's definetly not stupid. He knows exactly what he's doing, even though he sounds like a moron. That's why he used to be a radical left wing marxist half of his adult life and now suddenly hes an extreme right wing muslim hater. His purpose is to spread hate towards arabs and muslims to give the false impression that the US and Israel have a "common enemy".
There IS, within Islam, a common enemy of the U.S. and Israel. You can here it expressed and see it manifested in the words and actions of what has appropriately come to known as radical Islam. Words which rationalize such actions can be found, clearly expressed, in the Koran. When you support the actions of radicals, you are growing the seeds of destruction, self destruction.
He is really stupid. Check out the Max Blumenthal video of him doing "Islamic-Fascism" scare mongering. Unless he has a right wing hack "journalist" giving him cues, he can't organize his thoughts in a coherent manner at all. I was shocked at how he slipped by the Wahabis and the Muslim Brotherhood. It takes Fox News to allow that kind of ignorance.
Maybe Horowitz should expose all of the jewish schools in America that are funded by Israel and teach that Jews are superior to non-jews. Or how about the military training camp run by the IDF where American jewish kids can go to Israel and learn military training
I'm not a jew, but statistical comparisons of IQ show that Ashkenazi jews(a small minority) test the highest. If you are familiar with the history of the jews, you will understand why they always prepare for war.
i hate it when fox news is right..
Freethinker12341 7 months ago
Isn't it amazing that ALL the Videos of CAIRTV do not allow for commenting? They are so willing to support freedom of speech that they can't allow for anyone to proclaim anything different from them.. Taqayya at it's worst!!!!
ChiefOren 7 months ago
David Horowitz is an American hero, standing up in the face of leftist adversity, which now control all our public universities.
tigerhop 9 months ago 8
This fucking kyke should know about fascists if anyone does!!!! Rabbi fucking Himmler
ilkinond 1 year ago
This is going to end badly. In America. Liberty will not be undone by fools with hideous opinions and a vote. The last vote in America will not be to undo our liberties. (And fuc! you, you nasty little anti-semites. We stand with Israel.)
CARDUELIS999 1 year ago 4
@CARDUELIS999 The reason why Muslims hate the US is because you stand with Israel. Which , by the way, conducts massive amounts of torture, has illegal chemical weapons, has over 200 nuclear weapons and doesn't sign any international treaties and has a lobby in the states (AIPAC) that pushed for war in Iraq and sanctions on ME countries. Do Muslims have holidays that celebrate the killing of non Muslims, just as the Jews do? I Muslims hated freedom and democracy, why don't they attack Iceland?
Chickenwing1313 6 months ago
fuck David, fuck fox and fuck israel!
first2blast 1 year ago
@first2blast fuck u arab !
go back to your 3 world shit holl and mary your 6 year old sister
drink some camel urin like muhamad told u to and relax !
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 year ago
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@MrJapaneseboy1111 u brain-dead cunt! fuck you too!
first2blast 11 months ago
@MrJapaneseboy1111 fucking ignorant.......watch ur mouth u piece of shytt...maybe u need to go back to japan and die there in one of them earthquake or tsunamis lol
fucking idiot.....bug eater, shit facee.....
sami0pal0love 11 months ago
@sami0pal0love world most famos fakestinian ARAFAT=born in egypt ! LOL
his tribe "AL QUDWA" = is from syria !
go back to saudi arabia stupid arab sheep !
MrJapaneseboy1111 11 months ago
@MrJapaneseboy1111 u see the more u talk the more u make an ass of urself.......u mothafucka not all of us are arafat supporters.....so guess what fuck u and fuck arafat........
Faggggg....and u keep saying go back go back.....bitchass maybe u should go back to japan to the most fucked up and pooriest country there....at least in palestine we aint got hoes that u can fuck in the street for a 1$.....annd prob. ur mother and sister are one of hustlers in da street
sami0pal0love 11 months ago
@MrJapaneseboy1111
me so horny.....me love u long time....
that was your mom last night...i keep slapping her cause i thought she was falling assleep....fucking slanty eyed mother fucker...
nnjada 11 months ago
Let the guy speak, for gods sake, he is telling the truth!
swissmaid 1 year ago 2
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U guys buy this Islamofascism WEEK ? That's LAME man ...
Its kindda sad man ... I mean , for Independence .. we only get 1 DAY, AIDS Awareness; thats 1 DAY, n yeah.. Mother n Father's .. thats 1 DAY , Childrens's DAY =1, WTF ... even Christmas 25th Dec... ONLY 1 DAY... man .. to LOVE.. we're given ONLY 1 DAY !
But hey.... to HATE ... Islamofascism .... it takes a FREAKING WEEK !
That's alot of HATE there ... I mean are we eligible for such off days if we work in a jewish organisation ?
lieberat 1 year ago
So you send me a PM to an article, which I have already read previously, and was written by someone other than Mr. Horowitz.
I will not attack you, because it's your right to contest someone on the basis of truth. I will contest the argument you're making though. If you had any previous knowledge of his work, you would be aware that you are falling into the same paradigm most of his detractor's fall into. Looking for evidence that support's you position rather than basing your position on fact.
Joe11Blue 1 year ago
@Joe11Blue gj, owned him
Lejendary2 1 year ago
Horowitz is bold enough to say things as it is.
Ramshobraja 1 year ago
hmm genocidal huh.. last time i checked Hamas didn't invade Israel murdering innocent people running over them with tanks..
blubberman911 1 year ago
@blubberman911
What exactly did Israel invade?
Hamas charter is to wipe out Israel.
sandp500analysis 1 year ago
Notice he doesn't cite a single professor's name, that he references a doctrine, but no actual words from it, and claims they are genocidal, but make no mention of any words they used.
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The ironic thing is that Horowitz just changed from the Communist party to the Fascist party, but Americans are too retarded to know what a Fascist actually is. They think it's just people who want to kill Jews. Fascism is corporatism combined with a government that runs the media or a media that runs it.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe Fascism? Where?
Joe11Blue 1 year ago
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fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@Joe11Blue Economic fascism is when the government supports certain favored corporations.
Social fascism is when you fabricate history to support an agenda.
Things like the Palestinians never existed, that they moved into the area after Jewish people made it bloom, that they have no distinct culture, that Israel has always pursed peace and are "serious about it", etc.
If Israel wanted peace, they would have put up the separation wall on the 1967 boarders and declared 2 states. Simple
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe Child I know what Fascism is. You however claim that he's a fascist. Which is completely untrue. It's even more interesting that you did it right after you called for him to cite sources, without citing any yourself.
Just a reminder, Fascist's were left-winger's as well.
Joe11Blue 1 year ago
@Joe11Blue "You however claim that he's a fascist. Which is completely untrue."
David Horowitz fabricates an propagates myths about Israel in order to support Israel, constantly. He's a fascist. He lies about history, in other words, he engages in clear propaganda in order to support Israel.
Just like Hitler made up a bullshit story about the fictional aryan race of Germans, just as the Japanese did.
Media lies all the time to support Israel now. It's CLEARLY fascism.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe You are still making all of these claim's without proving it.
Joe11Blue 1 year ago
@Joe11Blue Fine, If I go through the trouble of looking up and citing ALL OF HIS lies, will you then admit what actually is?
Or will this just be a waste of my time?
Horowitz is a gross liar, but you won't see him lying when he's debating Finkelstein, because Finkelstein will call him right out - that's why Horowitz gets all fuzzy about facts when ht talks to Finkelstein and appeals to emotion.
He knows he lying.
So, is it worth the effort for me to spend a few hours, and drum the lies out?
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe If the proof is real how can anyone deny it? Of course it need's to be conclusive and cited by multiple sources.
Joe11Blue 1 year ago
@Joe11Blue "f the proof is real how can anyone deny it?"
Like you will.
Google this, "In another instance, Horowitz stated that a Pennsylvania State University biology professor showed his students the film Fahrenheit 9/11 just before the 2004 election in an attempt to influence their votes."
That's a trivial example to find. I have to do some work today, so I'll let you refute that, and I will spoonfeed you as many examples as I have to, and watch you deny them all.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe Once again real proof. No backpedaling after your claim's now.
See you defeated yourself by assuming I would deny anything you state, without even being aware of my stand on the subject.
Just a side note, if you make a claim, this goes for any subject field, the responsibility of proof is on the claimant. Any properly educated person would be aware of this.
I'll give you a hint of my stand. I want to see proof of any claim's whether they be Mr Horowitz's, or your's.
Joe11Blue 1 year ago
@Joe11Blue "Once again real proof. No backpedaling after your claim's now."
Why would I have to back peddle?
"See you defeated yourself by assuming I would deny anything you state,"
I am making, perhaps the incorrect assumption, that you know SOMETHING about David Horowitz when you deny he's a fascist. Do you know NOTHING about him? It's pretty easy to find out what he's lied about.
I'm not hear to educate you either. It's probably a waste of my time. I ask you again - is it?
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe You are still backpedaling.
You made the claim's, the burden of proof is on you. I'm still waiting. If it's so easy to find this proof then it would have been quicker for you to post it here than to drag out this argument. I'm beginning to doubt the legitimacy of your claim's though. In fact you are starting to sound like some of the same people that Mr. Horowitz speak's about in his Indoctrination series.
Joe11Blue 1 year ago
@Joe11Blue "You are still backpedaling."
From what?
"If it's so easy to find this proof"
I gave a clear example of him telling a falsification for purely political purposes. Do you need more examples? It does take time to look them up, figure out how to allow you to search for them, and then verify them.
How many examples do you want?
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@fuzzywzhe Just to add, spoonfeeding is what you do when someone is seeking information and is unwilling to look for it. In this case, you are making a claim, and discounting my demand of proof for "YOUR" claim, rather than me asking you out of context for information. It would not be spoonfeeding, it would be substantiating your claim's, or leaving them baseless.
Just to note, his comment on the Fahrenheit 9/11 is honest, as that was purely a political attack on the incumbent.
Joe11Blue 1 year ago
FOX NEWS = BIG FAT LIAR
aliet07 2 years ago
Death to the "Religion of Peace.
Flush them out of the U.S.
lakeeriejew 2 years ago
This guy is a liar. I believe you are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
newtype64 3 years ago
PROUD MUSLIM WOMEN :)
aliet07 3 years ago
Oxymoron of oxymorons.
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
got a problem ? :)
aliet07 2 years ago
yes many would you like to help with some ? for instance can you explain why it is ok in the koran to lie ? or why one of Allahs 99 names would be the deciever ? or why muslims that i have met are so quick to talk about the crusades ? you see three hundred year before the christian crusades the muslims were crusading in europe ? but thats ok ,,,,
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
:)
#1 - Show me the verse in the Holy Quraan.
#2-Cause This is the only word we found in English...English is a language with NO ENOUGH words to translate our OLD AMAZING language. :)If u wanna know wut it means..read the explanation of it :)
#3 three hundred? maybe..but u 4got that Christianity existed b4 Islam??and if u want modern issue..ABUGREB JAILS?IRAQ?AFGHANISTAN?SUPPORT OF ISRAEL?wut else u want? :)
aliet07 2 years ago
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Quran Surah 30: The Romans
Allah will tear Christians apart for ascribing partners to him. 13-14
Disbelievers will be brought to doom. 16
It's OK to own slaves. 28
Allah does not love disbelievers. 45
Allah seals the heart of disbelievers. (And then he burns them in the Fire.) 59
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
It's OK to own slaves. 50
Allah says it is lawful for Muhammad to marry any women he wants. 50-51
It's OK to own slaves. 55
Those who malign Allah, Muhammad, and Muslims will be cursed by Allah in this life and with doom in the Hereafter. 57
Those who oppose Islam will be slain with a fierce slaughter. 60-61
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
no your lieng that not the only translation its the correct translation ,,, and please answer why its ok for muhamed to marry a 6 year old girl ? then rape her at 9 ? oh and i have lots of questions ,,, some that make the highest educated muslims walk away ,,, and some actually leave islam after they find the truth ,,,, you think i dont know the koran ,,,,LOL you are wrong and its my burden to show you .
lesterclaypool1 2 years ago
"The Muslim Student Association was created by Hammas and is funded by Saudi Arabia...they support our enemies"
How does a guy like this get on tv?
The MSA and the Arab Student Organization on Duke's campus is funded by DUKE not SAUDI ARABIA. This is slander and I refuse to hear it! This "man" knows nothing about the Arabic/Muslim culture. He should stick to "WASPs for Dummies" and leave the real talk to intelligent people.
happyiraqi89 3 years ago
that's it. Box your ears and refuse to know the truth. Good luck to you in life- you'll need it, especially when you confront someone you disagree with.
Northgrant 3 years ago 2
i feel sorry for you
mouhajir1 3 years ago
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Well I am a Muslim, who is well versed in the religion, and also well versed in common sense and logic, unlike Fattboy. If Muhammad's marriage to Aishah was morally incorrect, then why did none of his followers have a problem with it? Why did none of his enemies have a problem with it? Is it not true that Aisha was engaged to another much older man BEFORE she got engaged to the prophet?
adamE628 4 years ago
It's my understanding any critic of your prophet was put to death. I do know a would be assassin was sparred death. Never the less this would explain no criticism. Now culturally it is an aberration in any society for this type of union. I am not judging him or the union but it is not a typical thing. But one thing is for certain he was a ladies man. I find nothing wrong with this.
chewbaca1989 4 years ago 2
Im fairly sure this was not an aberration. In semetic cultures and every culture inbetween women were wedded after their first menses. Jim West, PhD, a Baptist minister, observes the following tradition of the Israelites: The wife was to be taken from within the larger family circle (usually at the outset of puberty or around the age of 13) in order to maintain the purity of the family line.4
adamE628 4 years ago
Is it not true that according to the Catholic Encyclopedia the Virgin Mary was betrothed to Joseph when he was senile and she was between twelver and fourteen? So if you're going to ACT like a religous expert, at least GET OFF YOUR ASS and do the proper well rounded research.
adamE628 4 years ago 2
jasenovac. nothing in the world compares to the filth sado-machoism and barbarity of jasenovac
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
What?
Look are you a convert?
Fattboy26 4 years ago
yes
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Another convert that did not do much research I have met many before. You joined islam because you have a chip on your shoulder the size of a mosque. You have not really studied it much as I can see by your posts. If you are going to CONVERT to another relgion GET OFF YOUR ASS and do some research.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
one site i've been to said that israel is prepared to use nuclear terror to become the dominant force in the region and to get the arabs to accept hegemony
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Africans dont kill for fun? Hmmm Rawanda comes to mind where they made a sport of it. Uganda where Adi Amin Muslim had fun killing people many people. Somaila, Sierrie Leone, Ethopia, Congo Shit nearly all of Africa. Look you need to pull your head out of your ass.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
they were not doing that for fun. in non western cultures killing is a job. while in the west killing is a pleasure. an afrodesiac.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Your right!! I kill all the time for the fun. Beats boredom. How old are you? This conversation is denegrating please have some sensible comment. And I think you live in the USA? If you do you should think about leaving if this is you opinion. I cannot stand muslims who hate the west but live in the west.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
let's get back to the nuclear hegemony of israel shall we?
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Right ok you went to a site that said that. Ok thats enough proof for me. I need nothing else but an internet site that you visited.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
furthermore i laugh at the idea of western philosophy being a triumph or victory. fascism socialism communism materialism nationalism. all killed over 250+ million people. welcome to the real dark ages
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Oh and look at the light of islamic nations.
What they have to offer the world. Tyranical religous fools. Illiteracy, stonings, beheadings, oppression of women and minorities. Yes you right you have so much we want. I can see that in how many muslims immigrate to the West compared to Westerners immigrating to Islamic nations.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
lol. islam discovered that the worth was round 700 years in baghdad before the west. timbuktu also discovered that the world was round. actually the west didn't discover it because it took some retard that didn't know where he was going to sail blindly and disocer that the world wasn't flat
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Really was that Islam? Hmmm Isalm thought the sun set in a murkey pond. And that the world was like a bed flat? And other scientific mavels like Sperm comes from the backbone. NOW THAT IS ISLAM. And you can have it.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
al khidr said that he saw the sun set in a murkey pool. islam doesn't say that
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
HADITHS.
Still can you tell me how sperm comes from the spine I always thought it came from the Testes. Oh well.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
Horowitz is a traitor and should be tried and punished as such. If he were alive in 1930s Germany, he would bend over for Hitler the same way he is now bending over for the Fascists who are quickly conquering this great nation of ours from the inside. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
bbruhwiler8 4 years ago
Oh he is a traitor that would bend over for Hitler? Have you ever asked a muslim what he thinks of the Jewish people and then Hitler. No I think Horowitz is like Churchill before the war warning of the dark clouds to come.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
David Horowitz is a jew who is looking to win favour with christians , but christians are to stupid to see it.
David Horowitz is a jewish version of a wahabi , he is a zionist extreamist.
Wake up people, Wake up !
I am a christian conservative and i do'nt fall for this zionist who he and hi brothers support multiculturalism and liberalism , he is a poser . Do your research christian brothers.
kasdri 4 years ago
Personal attack is all most of you have against Horowitz. I dont see many of you have a logical arguement to oppose him. Israel is a appartied? hmmmm so minorities in nations such as saudi arabia can they practice there beliefs and customs. Islam is one of the most appartied beliefs systems around if you not muslim you can pay a tax, convert or warfare under islamic law.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
you reeeeally dont understand Islam..!!
MopacMurtaza 4 years ago
Reeeeally. Can you explain what part I dont understand. I dont understand the political correct, sugar coated, watered down version of islam that cultural apologists like to use.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
I tottaly agree with radical Islam, The Koran says, defend your home, defend your famili, defend your land. Were getting fucking attacked every day, in Palæstine, Iraq, afghanistan, shit all were doing is defending ourselves!.. When Muslims controlled the middle east, there was peace, cuz Islam respects all religions, but when the jews got help from America they startet the muslim oppression..! You reaaally don't understand people or Islam!
MopacMurtaza 4 years ago
Well I am happy that you can admit that you like radical islam. So your history of defence like when islam attack Egypt, Syria, Persia, The Holy Land, Turkey, North Africa, Spain, Greece, the Balkans and Southern France were all peaceful. Sorry my friend I judge islam based on it overall history not since 2003. Ps Ask the Kurds how there peaceful fellow Muslims treat them.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
Yeahh and im proud.. you Look at Islam not the people, kurds got gassed by people who dont really beleive in Islam! Get your fat narrowminded head realeased from the Zionistic brain washing, that you apparently got infected with!
MopacMurtaza 4 years ago
Oh your proud of your religion attacking and subduing others but when others do it to you that is the part you dont like? The Kurds were gassed by people who dont really believe in islam? So not only the Sunni Iraqis were attacking them also Turkey and Iran (majority Shiah). So now when confronted you attack the messenger and not the arguement typical islamic tactic. Islam is the most intolerate around. Converts like yourself have a chip on your shoulder the size of a mosque.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
So that is it huh? When confronted by a person who is not swayed by political correctness or a cultural apologist you run after your rant on being a zionist. Do yourself a favour and educate yourself and take that chip off your shoulder.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
Look at the fucking titel! Mussolini once said, that fascism should rather be called corporatism, as its the merger of corparate and government, is that Islam? Or is that America? Educate your self! And yes i want Israel destroyed, it has n right to exist, when its an occupation and oppression of a people, yeah, when a palestinien gets kidnapped by israel nobodycares when its a jew the world explodes. Zionist fuck
MopacMurtaza 4 years ago
Really well Fascist nations are not democratic even if corporations are merged. You want Israel destroyed? Did you care when Jordan killed 75 000 Palastinians when they expelled them? I bet you did not know that but hey if a muslim kills a muslim no problems when a Jew or Christian does DAMM. them. Next time when you listening to your rat bag imam use you brains and stop feeling sorry for yourself.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
I dont know where you get youre zionist news from, but you really aint got a grip on reality. And by the way, no turkey did not attack civilian kurds nor did Iran, Iran only defended itself from saddam, who was not a muslim!
MopacMurtaza 4 years ago
Where did you get your news from you imam?
Turkey did not attack Kurds oh right so when they use F 16s against them that is not attacking when they mobilise their army on the border with them that is saying hi we love you? Iran and Turkey continually attack the kurds only now in post saddams iraq they are safe. Get you head out of your ass.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
I said they dont attack civilian kurds as you implied when you said, they attack kurds!
MopacMurtaza 4 years ago
Civilians are killed to. Turkey was about to attack Northern Iraq. I think civilians would have been killed. Many armies have committed atrocities.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
Like the civilians killed in Palestine? Like the civilians killed in Afghanistan? Like the civilians killed ind Iraq? Its clear you only think about civilians when there at use for your cheap political points! There is no reason for US involvment in Islamic countries, oops sorry, forgot that you wanted to steal our oil! Stay the fuck out of our countries and 9/11 would never have happend!
MopacMurtaza 4 years ago
For a muslim convert you knowledge of islam is limited like you. Islam for 1400 years has been attacking others and now that majority Islamic nations are weak you are now playing victim. Muslims kill more Muslims than the West has. But this you dont care about you only care about a Muslim death when it gives you some ammunition to hate the West.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
Ok you dont believe that corporations control the Government, Jewish lobbyist controls the kongress? Your knowledge of the west is pretty bad!
MopacMurtaza 4 years ago
Oh yes there is a big Zoinist Alien Fat Albert conspiracy. And we are all picking on poor peaceful islam. The religion of peace that has never hurt a fly. And I bet you have the proof. A couple of websites. And you hatred for anything not islamic. You and your imam must spend many days talking about this zionist conspiracy.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
Shit yeah.. Why you think we support Israel as if we America was jewish? Cus were nice and we want to help, just for the sake of helping? Shit no, and this aint got nothing to do with Islam, its about fascism and America becming a fascist state, no argue! Bush changed laws, so he can in an emergency inforce marshall law! Bush cant stop truth and the American will, which is not corporations, Will win!
MopacMurtaza 4 years ago
Truth hmmmm. If you want to talk about facism lets talk about islamofacism. The most intolerate facism there is. Lets stop the somkescreen Israel is about less that 1% of the middle east. They have turned the desert in a rich area that could fed the middle east where as the muslims preside over cesspools. Israel is an affront to muslims because they are everything muslims are not successful. Your former dimmnis are better than muslims and muslims cannot stand this.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
they have STOLEN LAND THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO THEM. ON THE BONES OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. and are threatening to wipe arab countries off the map.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Really if i remember right Iran is threatening to wipe Israel off the map. If Israel wanted to wipe an Arab nation off the map it could no threats needed. How come other middle eastern nations are struggling so much. Wonder why could it be islam?
Fattboy26 4 years ago
gee wizz fatboy. let's look at the quote archive shall we. "arabs may have the oil but we have the matches". under israel foreign policy is a plan called the samson option. in wich if israel's security is seriously threatened it will decide to hit every state it deems "enemy" and neutralize them along with israel. it's called the samson option because of the biblical story of samson when he brought down the temple to kill the caananites and himself.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
hmm islam eh? that sure would explain why SECULAR states like turkey and egypt are broke poor and hungry. hey here's a thought. go to google and type in cordoba. haha could it be islam. lol. islam was the leading civilization until the west discovered gunpowder. lol
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
So the Samson option is only used if Israels exsistence is in threat. Then how this for an idea DONT ATTACK THEM! To hard?
Fattboy26 4 years ago
yep. israel has all the right to neutralize 1 billion people and set off nuclear winters for it's existence being in threat
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Billion? Hmmm what part of you ass did you pull that figure from? As I said if YOU dont want Israel to attack DONT ATTACK THEM. It so easy. Israel has a nuclear capablilty which it has not used. I wonder if Iran had weapons would it show restraint? I doubt it.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
there are 1 billion muslims fattboy.
geesh
there's no excuse for this sort of global nuclear terrorism. justifying it makes you a terror supporter. israel shouldn't USE nuclear weapons ever. noone should use nukes. and no matter how demonized iran is i know that a nuke in there hands is much safer than israel's.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Ok ok misunderstanding I thought you meant Arab nations or any other that posed a immediate threat. And if a nation existence is in threat well what do u expect. Now for nuclear weapons being in Iran is safer than Isreal that is like give a Nuclear bomb to the Nazis in ww2. No Israel is a much safer bet than a dictatorship.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
israelis are nazis! there aggressive they terrorize civilian populatios for 2 kidnapped soldiers. they've ethnically cleansed palestine the golan heights and the sinai. iran hasn't attacked anybody in centuries! even though i aggree with you on them being a dictatorship. iran has it's head screwed on much tighter than israel.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Iraelis are nazis? What a stupid comment that is. Coming from muslims which admire the nazis which call the holocost a hoax. Which refer to Jews as vermin and pigs. Which ask for the destruciton of Isreal. Even in the koran is calls for the killing of Jews. And you call them Nazi. No your the Nazis.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
israelis are nationalist. there supremacist they dream of nuking the world and they committ ethnic cleansing. the soviet union was terrified of israel all throughout the cold war.
where does it say kill yahud?
they are pigs and monkeys. the jews who behave like that pigs and monkeys. but on the same accord the taliban are pigs and monkeys
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
you call threats to nuke every muslim city if it's existence is at stake restraint?
oh yeah and russia. they also plan to nuke russia. wich will nuke america in retaliation.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Oh really where did you hear that? Not a propaganda islamic site? They are always truthful lol. Well as I said its simple do not ATTACK!!! It is that SIMPLE. Do not ATTACK. See if I had a gun and you attacked me with a knife I would still shoot you even if my weapon is more deadlier.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
no i got this from history. india then north africa then indonesia/maylasia then persia pakistan and afghanistan. then mesopotamia and finally turkey itself. an amazing fact is that saudi arabia is one of the 4 countries that weren't colonized. those are japan n and s korea and of course saudi arabia
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Most of the nations you mention were invaded by the muslims. Persia one of the most sophistacated nations in ancient times is a 3rd world cesspool controlled by mullahs. Sad. Egypt another nation with potential now a joke needing foriegn aid. Well done islam.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
muslims didn't pervert destroy and exploit these civilizations as your image of the arab hooded rider holding a sword in one hand and quran in the other continues to be exposed. Those fire worshippers weren't contributing anything to humanity. neither were those pissy byzantines. they were oppressors. they heavily taxed the people established oppressive rules and conditions were cruel hygiene below tolerable. religiously intolerant...
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Sorry see you need to read the Koran. To see how infidels are to be treated under islamic law Shariah. In fact you calling the Taliban pigs show that you are either a hypocrite or do nto know islam that well.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
the rule of mullahs as you so claim began with the safavids a shiite extremist group that forced rafidhism on the population and force converted jews and christians. Iran under Sunni rule was a very intellectual philosophical and developing society. shias are very very regressive. and primitive. there not really about progressing or about knowledge. they've also been described throughout history as very unclean
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
wait. what does nuking russia have to do with do not attack? you know russia's going to nuke america if that happens right? israel doesn't have the right to act like a wild angry dog. lol
why are you justifying the use of nuclear weapons?
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
And where did you see where Israel said we will attack Russia? From what islamic website?
Fattboy26 4 years ago
ha. i didn't get this from an islamic website. seymour hersh wrote a whole book on this called the samson option. maybe you should buy it and see what these nazis have in store for the world.
i guess when you see the word israel you see a happy smiling rabbi or some we want peace protestors. everyone else sees a big picture of laughing greedy right wing extremists like olmert netanyahu and sharon
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
No I only have to read Mein Kamph to understand what the Nazis had in store. And I only have to read the Koran to understand what the Muslims have in store. Both are horrible. And when I see Israel I see a nation wanting to be left alone and ready to fight if not.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
yeah. i don't know if even hitler planned to nuke the world. well maybe. since he did think germany was the master race he could've saw logic in taking the world down with germany if germany was bound to lose.
really? is that why israel plans to reroute iraqi oil to haifa? go to wikipedia and type in jinsa. israelis are nice people. the people in power aren't. they actually have special zionist schools to keep the zionist monopoly going
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
are you justifying israel's plans to nuke the world? even if israel decides not to nuke russia. russia will probably hit us for allowing israel to do this
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Depression is universal, Sucide well at least most do it to themselves and not blow up a bus, train or cafe. Serial killing 2 years ago in Iran there was a man killing children who was executed.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
Drugs you have a drug problem to look at Pakistan and Iran. Lung cancer? was this a joke or what? Greed again universal, Promiscuity you do have a problem with sex dont you? Stealing? shit your right! I think we are the only culture that has it lol. Prosititutiion has been around since the start to time even in Iran and other islamic nation just hidden in fact in Iran you can marry a woman for an hour wonder why you would do that? Must be her personality. Fetishs You do have sex on the brain?
Fattboy26 4 years ago
greed isn't universal. materialism isn't universal. serial killing isn't universal. serial killing isn't universal. serial killing isn't universal. what other culture kills people for fun? not even the africans do that. very sick indeed.
because shiites believe that temporary marriage is permissable
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Stupidty must be universal you seem to suffer from it. GREED is universal everywhere people can be greedy does not matter the race culture or belief. Serial killing have been around yes some cultures have it more than others. Materialism is part of greed and is universal what hole do you hide you head in?
Fattboy26 4 years ago
you mean like the state greed that the west suffers from? it's like greed is the state religion or something. it's the american dream to get rich isn't it?
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Look I dont live in the USA but have visited it a few times most Americans just get by sure there are greedy people but they are everywhere not exclusively in the USA. Please grow up.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
hmm. did you know that there's a popular american philosophy going around called help yourself? it's the latest craze
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Muslims should try it and stoping the old craze there called blaming everyone else.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
we muslims have a craze going around call give as much as you can
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Oh really I can see that in the disparity between the rich and poor in islamic nations.
I am amazed there is no proverty in islamic nations because people are giving so much LOL. Damm and here I am living in a poor Western nation. What are you doing in the poor USA?
Fattboy26 4 years ago
By all means have that way of life and look how it is working in islamic nations. Everyone wants to immigrate to islamic lands to live the good life. ISLAM gives the Kaffirs 3 choices 1 CONVERT 2 Submit and pay a tax 3 Or die. My friend to implement that I think there would be bullets invovled.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
what? you don't get to kill non muslims for not paying jizya
wtf?
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
I am sorry but that comment is lost on me.
Were you on any drugs when you wrote that?
Fattboy26 4 years ago
no were YOU on drugs when YOU wrote that?
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Whatever
Fattboy26 4 years ago
Do more research on your religion before you attempt to debate it.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
what about reading theodore hertzl's book? i heard it's similar to mein kempf. it contains the recently thrown away notion of a greater israel stretched from the nile to the euphrates including syria jordan lebanon the sinai and even medinah(can you believe it!?). while moderate extremists like olmert have thrown away the notion of israeli expansion. netanyahu and many others might still have the notion on there mind.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
If you want to read about similar to Mein Kamph read the Koran. Israel wants to expand? Does islam? I hear mullahs and other nutcases saying how islam will rule the world and you only have to read the koran to see where they recieve their inspiration. Islam want to dominate by either peaceful or non peaceful ways.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
islam is a religion way of life and ideaology. it has as much as a right to expand globally as capitalism. it's a war of ideas. there's no need to get bullets involved.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Your right islam is a way of life Mohammed way of life. If you want to copy a man that had sex with child of 9 Aisha, assassinated female poetess a mother of 5 for writing poetry critizing him. Having 11 wives at one time when he said no more than 4. Committing genocide by killing all the males of a Jewish tribe, taking his adopted son wife.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
lol. there's not any proof that aisha was 9. she must've been at least 18.
"i'm going to kill you and all the muslims"
is not critisizing
he only married so he could get tribal alliances. arabs didn't even have a limit on wives before Mohammad
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Her age is mentioned in numerous hadiths as being 9 in fact it was clear on her age when she was molested not only by Tabari but also Bukhari. She must have been 18? Where is your evidence?
Can you show me where I wrote that I am going to harm any muslims?
Your knowledge in islam is poor. Are you a convert? If so you have not researched your religion very well.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
back to what i was saying. al andulas was a very philosophical society. in cordoba 90,000 books were wrote a year coming from a population of 500,000 while modern spain with a population of 20 million only produced some 60,000 books. the city was filled with gardens flowers great architecture tremendous wealth. Cordoba was actually basically the capital of europe until the ignorant spanish "retook" it.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
/watch?v=Vac11zkwb5g&feature=related
baghdad
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
The golden age of islam? Was in areas that were conquered by muslims where there was still a large proportion of disbelievers and muslims taxed them and used their services. Islam intellectually is a failure. It has not really contributed to science or technology. I know you will post things muslims claimed to have invented which they did not. And by the way the muslims had gunpowder to so your point there is lame. The Jews have won over 167 noble prizes lets compare that to Islams 7.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
really? i guess you never heard of islamic philosophy.
not contributed? it's obvious you aren't an expert on history
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Yes Sir I know alot about history just not revised bullshit history.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
no you don't know anything about history. you claim that non muslims were the main contributers to intillectuallism in islamic societies. if you went to wikipedia and typed in islamic philosophy you'd see that's not the case. Islam is the only religion where it'
s PART OF IT'S CREED. to learn and think and ponder and teach. islamic cities like cordoba baghdad timbuktu and damascus were practically built on knowledge seeking knowledge learning and philosophy
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Oh right? Oh yes I can see that for the last 500 years islam has been a real powerhouse in science arts technology. They have invented many things hmmm none come to mind. Ok lets go to one of islams few shining lights Cordoba to show it not a failure. That is like saying well even though I failed school I passed a test.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
for the last 500 years islamic civilization have been conquered and subdued by the west.
few? what about timbuktu? what about the short lived history of muslim sicily? what about baghdad? damascus? jerusalem? toledo? allepo? isfahan?
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Hmmm such a smart intelligent society conquered by us simple westerners. How did that happen? Must have fluked it? Islam is like a parasite it lived on other cultures glories and work and took them as its own. Now when the populance and majority muslim and they now have really nothing to show for it except a chip on thier shoulders.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
i think i'll pull up a quote from samuel huntington on this
"the west didn't conquer the world by it's ideas but by it's ability to use organized force. the west has forgotten this the rest of the world haven't"
wikipedia. islamic philosophy
wikipedia. islamic science
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Well like you Samuel Huntington was entitled to his opinion. That does not mean that he is right. How did we become so organised??? Did we find a magic tree and wish really hard? How did we become industralised and modernised? How? Did we steal a magic wand from islam now we are smarter and you?
Fattboy26 4 years ago
i don't know. when you live in a city filled with rats and stench the only thing that comes to your mind is...killing and warfare. industrialization and modernization are AMERICAN LIBERAL IDEAS. this didn't come from england or poland or france. in fact most modern inventions from tv to the telephone to industry to electricity came from...america. you'd be surprised how much people think once catholic popes stop giving fatwas calling for the death of science and thought
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
AS i said I like history not the revised bullshit version of it. France England GERMANY were at the forefront of industralisation. So I suggest read more history and less koran. Yes Catholics did comdemn people to death Islam still does. See we became smarter. Now look at all westernised nation compared to islamic ones.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
pftf. the everyday life for french and german people was absolutely disgusting until the 1920's. the same thing in america and britain
yes look at westernized. homosexuality. porn. pedophilia robbery rape alchoholism. depression suicide. serial killing gang banging. drug dealing and using. lung cancer. greed promiscuity gambling stealing prostitution and fetishes.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Yes lets look at it if two consenting adults want sex in private that is their business not your mullahs. Porn so what as long as it does not involve minors how does that concern you? In fact the downloads of porn is very high in islamic nations.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
these cities were not "golden ages" because of dhimmi taxes that were collected. the islamic golden age was largely because of a change in arab thought in the field of economics agriculture and industry. due to islam. islam actually created the first market economy. and islamic cities were clean and hygenic while western countries were filthy and unclean.
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
Yes I have to agree Europe went through a dark age where relgion ruled with an iron fist and knowledge was dormant. Now just because you overran Persia, Egypt, the Byzantium Empire and Greece and had the sense to use their knowledge does not mean that you invented anything do you UNDERSTAND? That is like me buying a car and telling people I invented it.
Fattboy26 4 years ago
i didn't say islam invented philosophy. it did reinvent it and spreaded it around the world. do you see the same scenario playing out if pagan arabs created the same empire?
Crusaderdeluxe 4 years ago
This guy is really stupid, first he said Muslim Student Association(MSA) is supported by Wahabies, which is false, No One outside of America supports a Muslim Organization on Campuses, second he said Wahabis like Hamas, Hamas are wahabies, they follow the Muslim brotherhood which was invented by Saed Qutb and are in no way "Wahabies"
Omaribnalalbani 4 years ago
He's definitely not stupid; such comments do not lend strength to your position. Although he may have some details wrong, his general perspective has validity. Islam, a great religion, has a minority within it which is a cancer to the whole. If it spreads, it will destroy its host, and, ultimately, itself. Where ARE the peace lovers of Islam?
SenecaKing 4 years ago
Yeah he's definetly not stupid. He knows exactly what he's doing, even though he sounds like a moron. That's why he used to be a radical left wing marxist half of his adult life and now suddenly hes an extreme right wing muslim hater. His purpose is to spread hate towards arabs and muslims to give the false impression that the US and Israel have a "common enemy".
gstorms85 4 years ago 4
There IS, within Islam, a common enemy of the U.S. and Israel. You can here it expressed and see it manifested in the words and actions of what has appropriately come to known as radical Islam. Words which rationalize such actions can be found, clearly expressed, in the Koran. When you support the actions of radicals, you are growing the seeds of destruction, self destruction.
SenecaKing 4 years ago
He's not stupid. He doesn't understand Muslims, but he does know how to play right-wing Americans into a fear stupor.
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
He is really stupid. Check out the Max Blumenthal video of him doing "Islamic-Fascism" scare mongering. Unless he has a right wing hack "journalist" giving him cues, he can't organize his thoughts in a coherent manner at all. I was shocked at how he slipped by the Wahabis and the Muslim Brotherhood. It takes Fox News to allow that kind of ignorance.
westphalianprinz 4 years ago
Maybe Horowitz should expose all of the jewish schools in America that are funded by Israel and teach that Jews are superior to non-jews. Or how about the military training camp run by the IDF where American jewish kids can go to Israel and learn military training
gstorms85 4 years ago
I'm not a jew, but statistical comparisons of IQ show that Ashkenazi jews(a small minority) test the highest. If you are familiar with the history of the jews, you will understand why they always prepare for war.
SenecaKing 4 years ago