@FreedomForOrcas I know more about animals than I know about cooking and cooking is what I do for a living. If you were to take a baby tiger out of the wild, take care of it for about 1/2 years, no way you can put it back in the wild after that cause he won't know how to find his own food. This is the same. These animals are taught by their mother, pod and whatnot and Morgan never learned it.
Trainers at Loro Parque do have degrees in marine biology (most of them) and psychology, and they have been working with SeaWorld trainer all the time: Adan is with the other orcas now with no problem, and Suzane Allee doesn't know about animals. She just worked with cameras. Also, if you expect Morgan to go back to the sea and NEVER have a fight with another whale, I don't think you are very realistic. It's natural!
@Corkian - If you read Suzanne's letter, it clearly states that she worked closely with the trainers and orcas. She ALSO spent much of her time with the cameras, which by the way, means she was able to accurately observe the interactions and incidents that took place.
And yes, fighting in the wild is natural. In captivity it is exacerbated. They cannot escape each other, they routinely fight and bully each other. Look at Tekoa's scarring and tell me that's natural. It's not.
@FreedomForOrcas Loro Parque's trainers are profesionals too, and after being caring dolphins for many years they're working with orcas now under the view of experienced SeaWorld Trainers. Suzanne wasn't a trainer and doesn't know about animal behavior. Animals have good and bad days just like you and me. And don't tell me wild orcas do not have great scars of fighting with each others (not only sharks, I mean).
@Corkian - Loro Parque's trainers are hardly professionals. And everyone seems to be missing what I said - Suzanne worked in close contact with the trainers - so everything they observed, they referred to Suzanne. Orcas acting up and fighting? Since Suzanne worked with the trainers, she would know about it.
And actually, orcas in the wild don't rake each other like they do in captivity. In a tank they can't escape each other. Raking is violent and aggressive. Not like the wild at all.
@FreedomForOrcas Suzanne worked in direct connact, right, but, knowing nothing about animal behavior, does it makes sense to believe everything she says, everything she thinks? Can I read a book writen in Chinese and think I know what is it about just by lookinh the cover?
@Corkian - Omg did you actually not read what I said? Suzanne worked with the TRAINERS. They know about animal behaviour, they relayed information TO her. So every aggressive incident, every fight, everything that the trainers saw, Suzanne would know about it.
And you don't need a degree to see two orcas trying to attack each other and know something is wrong. Just like I don't need a degree to look at a book written in Chinese, and know that it is Chinese.
@FreedomForOrcas It changes nothing: trainers could tell her if the orcas where pissing off or if they had fight with each others, and with trainers too: in the wild orcas also get angry with members of the pod because they don't have human contact!
They still young, but they're calming down since Morgan arrived. Everytime something was wrong trainers, SW & LP ones, have been working to try to solucionate it. But they're animals, you don't know what are they going to do next.
@Corkian - No, it changes all of what you were saying. Suzanne has years of work experience there - she knows what she's talking about.
Wild orcas do NOT get angry because they don't have human contact. I hope that's not what you meant to say, because that's a little bit... ridiculous. No offense.
Since Morgan arrived, nothing has changed. She has been raked intensely, her dorsal is covered with scars now. Plus Morgan isn't interested in them, she just floats and vocalises. It's awful.
@FreedomForOrcas Morgan is all the time playing with Kohana and Skyla, I have a regular friend there and pictures of her. The pod is calming down so much too, and Morgan is becoming very active in the new pools.
@Corkian - Erm... well I've been watching videos of an LP regular who shows that Morgan is ignoring the other orcas, and simply floats at the gate most of the time, or follows the trainer begging for food.
Plus, like I said before, there is photographic evidence of her dorsal covered in rakes. This isn't healthy or normal.
@FreedomForOrcas So you expect Morgan to be in the wild and never fight with another orca? Trainers call Morgan's attention because she has been interacting with humans for more than a year, and she is more used to us, but since she met other orcas, she's showing interest in them too.
@Corkian - No, I don't expect her to never encounter fighting. However she should never ever have encountered a small, confined environment with socially unstable animals that continually rake and abuse each other. The latest video of Morgan at Loro Parque shows her being rammed, attacked and bitten by both Kohana and Skyla. They ganged up on her, and bit her to the point that she was bleeding. It was caught on video.
@FreedomForOrcas I saw that video and that wasn't blood, it is written in the description and you can clearly see it is not (I think it's urine). Angry orcas make bubbles with the blow hole when they're angry and attack.
Orcas can attack each other in the wild if they feel like they have to.
@Freedomfororcas how bout you have some respect and realize your :experts are just a bunch of people that will say/do anything for the right about of bills. So sad for you and your anti friends. But I hope morgan goes to seaworld and lives a nice long healthy life and prove all your anti propaganda asses wrong. maybe then youll see the reality of it. besides your orca expert let a whale die and she could have done something for it. Id like to keep morgan alive than in that death dealers hands
We'll know in a few hours if Morgan will be allowed to return to her home waters, but we already know that every step of her rehab and potential release plan is safe and has been vouched for by the world's top orca scientists. With an excellent location now ready for her, complete with eager townspeople, there is no logical excuse for denying Morgan her natural world and family.
Wat Morgan verdiend is de vrijheid in de noordelijke oceaan bij haar naaste familie. Noorse community ontvangt haar met open armen en willen zich inzetten om haar te herenigen met haar familie in de vrijheid van Morgan's natuurlijke thuis.
Go to freemorgan.nl and read that Morgan belongs in the Arctic Ocean. Norwegian community welcoms her with open arms and want to bring her back to her family in the ocean what is her natural home.
So Sad the Orca Coalition is Forcing Morgan to stay in that tank cause they cant accept her being happy in another place, instead of alone in a seapen which is also captivity. But you Anti's dont see that. I HOPE DH wins and Morgan goes to LP Quickly. We already know the judge WILL RULE to send her to LP because he doesnt want her released to INCAPABLE HANDS who dontknow what the hell their doing- No experience at all in animal rehab/release.
@GoAwayPeta - Wow, you are sadly miseducated on this topic. Want to talk about incapable hands? How about we start with Loro Parque, a mis-managed facility with trainers who have no degrees at all. How about the orcas there that suffer due to poor facilities. The artificial 'pod' that continually fights each other, and injures their trainers.
These people working on Morgan's release have been doing this for longer than you've been alive. Show some respect before making incorrect assumptions.
No degrees at all? LOL It doesn't take a 7-8 year degree to make someone credible. Naomi Rose is a flawless example of that. It's experience that counts. Trainers who work full time and directly with animals know them better than anyone else. Naomi claims to be this expert on SeaWorld when the woman has never worked at SW, nevermind spent a day behind-the-scenes. How do we know what goes on in factory farms? WE GO UNDERCOVER. Has she? Nope.
@RingneckDoveFan - Want to talk about 'going undercover'? Suzanne Michele Allee worked at Loro Parque for three and a half years. She saw firsthand how bad LP is. She worked with the trainers, the orcas, and head office. They were unorganised, an unsuitable facility for orcas, and unstable. She wrote a letter explaining her experience and how bad that place is. I've reblogged it on my tumblr, go have a look. It should be at the top.
She worked in the sound booth. She did not directly work with trainers, she just watched and assumed she thought she knew what she saw. She has NO experience on how marine mammal training works. She also left 6 MONTHS before the trainer was killed, so she has no idea what led to Keto's hissy fit. She is not reliable.
@RingneckDoveFan - Yes, she worked with the trainers and saw first hand the orcas and their temperament. She also had access to cameras on site that watched every move those animals made. She has FIRST HAND experience, that is more proof than you'll ever have.
Unless she was a trainer, she has no credibility. Whales being horny could come off as "aggressive." She has no idea what she thinks shes talking about.
@RingneckDoveFan - She knows what she's talking about. Like her letter says, she worked in close contact with the trainers when they were working with the orcas. Quote:
"I was in close contact with the trainers regarding the animals’ daily health and temperament, and spent much of my time down by the pools, on the main stage and backstage island"..... face it. You are wrong.
@RingneckDoveFan - Ohhhhh I see how it is, you hypocrite! So when I say the trainers don't have degrees, you say they don't need degrees, just experience! But when someone points out the flaws at Loro Parque, suddenly they need a degree?
Did you miss the part where she said she worked in close contact with the trainers? I'll translate that for you - She worked with the trainers concerning the orca's health and temperament. Meaning, it was the TRAINERS that gave her the information.
Degrees don't matter. I was clearly mocking you. Experience is everything, as well as common knowledge of marine mammal training, which, this unreliable person does not have.
What was her job position at LP?
"it was the TRAINERS that gave her the information." If I remember correctly, unless you are a trainer, you shouldn't believe what they say, because they lie for the company. Isn't that correct? Now you are the hypocrite.
@RingneckDoveFan - Ahuh, sure. Common knowledge of marine mammal training? Clearly the trainers at Loro Parque lack this, seeing as their orcas are fighting and injuring each other, as well as their trainers.
Dude, read the damn letter I referred to you. If you're going to be a lazy tard and not look up anything for yourself, I'm not going to spoon feed you.
Most to all killer whale trainers have 4 year Biology/Psychology degrees or higher. LP trainers have worked with SW trainers for several years. Their is nothing wrong with them.
Your blaming how animals act on the trainers? That makes zero sense. Knowledge of marine mammal training and orca dominance issues has nothing to do with training.
"Clearly the trainers at Loro Parque lack this, seeing as their orcas are fighting and injuring each other, as well as their trainers."
You did say that.
Your blaming how animals act on the trainers? That makes zero sense. Knowledge of marine mammal training and orca dominance issues has nothing to do with training.
@FreedomForOrcas wow i dont make incorrect assumptions i educate myself about many things based on both wild and captive cetaceans. All animals fight and well shit happens, BUT as we all learned today MORGAN WILL BE GOING TO LORO PARK, because the Judge ruled in her favor to be in a pod even if its a halfway point to seaworld..I rather her be in a pod than live her life alone in a seapen or begging for attention. But either way WE WIN YOU LOOSE and gues what You experts Turns out WERE BRIBED!
@GoAwayPeta - Wow, what an arrogant little turd you are. To me it seems like you're only happy she's going to a hole of a park just so you can rub it in anti-cap faces. People like you are a waste of space on this earth, and you disgust me.
No, the experts weren't bribed, but you want to talk about bribery? Loro Parque is being paid 100,000 euro to take Morgan, and in return they are getting several dolphins.
Corporate greed trumps science and evidence yet again.
@FreedomForOrcas No Im happy she can be moved to a park with other orcas despite their pod status, Your a waste of space trying to defend these so called experts. Id like to see written proof by loro park that their getting 100,000 euros and some dolphins.. But then again Anti's like you make up stories.. so once again YOU FAIL WE WIN!
@GoAwayPeta - No. You are happy she's going into a life of slavery and suffering just so you can rub it in our faces. I'm a waste of space for defending animal rights? What gave YOU the right to take their freedom away? So-called experts? So studying killer whales for over 20 years isn't enough experience for you, eh? I have spoken to these people personally. They know what they're talking about.
@GoAwayPeta - Secondly, the team working on Morgan's release is the world's most experienced team. John Ford has years of experience with orca acoustics, and he was the one who matched Morgan's calls to her family - YES her family has been FOUND. There are also marine biologists and orca scientists who've been studying these animals in the wild for over 20 years. No experience? Do a little research before you fly off the bat with these accusations.
And by the way Dolfinarium, 4 of your OWN 7 experts have gone against your original plan, and are saying she can be released. These are people on your OWN side. Just let her go already. Can't you see the stress and pain you're inflicting on her? She needs her mother in the wild. Loro Parque is NOT her home, and inbred orcas from a different pod are NOT her family.
Absolutely amazing footage of Morgan. However such a shame she is being kept in such a ridiculous tank. She needs to be with her family in the Netherlands OCEAN. The orcas at Loro Parque are NOT her family. If Adan, a relative, is continually rejected and ignored, what hope does an outsider like Morgan have?
Morgan's family wasn't found, she could have problems and die if she is released. She'll have all the love and attention (and friends!) she needs at Tenerife. She is so beautiful!
@Corkian - Her family WAS found. Her calls were matched to P pod in the Netherlands. 77% of her regular calls were matched (the rest were distress calls on Morgan's part, and unable to be matched as P pod was not making distress calls at the time).
@RingneckDoveFan - And secondly, the other 23% was distress calls. However if you want to put it into perspective, that's nearly 8 out of 10 calls matched.
My prayers go out to poor Morgan. I am hoping and praying that this judge will realize that she deserves to be FREE and allows her to be returned to her family in Norway. When the Dolfinarium Harderwijk was given a CITES import license for Morgan when she was off the Dutch coast it was for rescue \ capture, rehabilitation and release. So why is it .... Shame on you Dolfinarium Harderwijk.....
steve. hoe weet je dat nou dat ze dat niet overleeft?
heb je bewijs dan? nou!! vent je weet niet waar je over praat! jij denk ook alleen maar aan geld k.... je weet toch zelf hoe het met keiko ging. nou!!! weet je wat ze verdient een kans op vrijlating. ze houden alles in de gaten met het plan. dus wat lul je nou. je kan het mooi spelen. is acteur niet een mooi baantje voor steve.... freeee morgan
Lief hoor! Zij is me liefelings dier
Nathalie1Hollyday 1 month ago
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@FreedomForOrcas So you rather see Morgan go back to the ocean just so she can die?
TaschaTerrorist 3 months ago
@TaschaTerrorist - Oh yes because you know everything about cetaceans and rehabilitation, don't you?
FreedomForOrcas 2 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas I know more about animals than I know about cooking and cooking is what I do for a living. If you were to take a baby tiger out of the wild, take care of it for about 1/2 years, no way you can put it back in the wild after that cause he won't know how to find his own food. This is the same. These animals are taught by their mother, pod and whatnot and Morgan never learned it.
TaschaTerrorist 2 months ago
Trainers at Loro Parque do have degrees in marine biology (most of them) and psychology, and they have been working with SeaWorld trainer all the time: Adan is with the other orcas now with no problem, and Suzane Allee doesn't know about animals. She just worked with cameras. Also, if you expect Morgan to go back to the sea and NEVER have a fight with another whale, I don't think you are very realistic. It's natural!
Corkian 3 months ago
@Corkian - If you read Suzanne's letter, it clearly states that she worked closely with the trainers and orcas. She ALSO spent much of her time with the cameras, which by the way, means she was able to accurately observe the interactions and incidents that took place.
And yes, fighting in the wild is natural. In captivity it is exacerbated. They cannot escape each other, they routinely fight and bully each other. Look at Tekoa's scarring and tell me that's natural. It's not.
FreedomForOrcas 2 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas Loro Parque's trainers are profesionals too, and after being caring dolphins for many years they're working with orcas now under the view of experienced SeaWorld Trainers. Suzanne wasn't a trainer and doesn't know about animal behavior. Animals have good and bad days just like you and me. And don't tell me wild orcas do not have great scars of fighting with each others (not only sharks, I mean).
Corkian 2 months ago
@Corkian - Loro Parque's trainers are hardly professionals. And everyone seems to be missing what I said - Suzanne worked in close contact with the trainers - so everything they observed, they referred to Suzanne. Orcas acting up and fighting? Since Suzanne worked with the trainers, she would know about it.
And actually, orcas in the wild don't rake each other like they do in captivity. In a tank they can't escape each other. Raking is violent and aggressive. Not like the wild at all.
FreedomForOrcas 2 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas Suzanne worked in direct connact, right, but, knowing nothing about animal behavior, does it makes sense to believe everything she says, everything she thinks? Can I read a book writen in Chinese and think I know what is it about just by lookinh the cover?
Corkian 2 months ago
@Corkian - Omg did you actually not read what I said? Suzanne worked with the TRAINERS. They know about animal behaviour, they relayed information TO her. So every aggressive incident, every fight, everything that the trainers saw, Suzanne would know about it.
And you don't need a degree to see two orcas trying to attack each other and know something is wrong. Just like I don't need a degree to look at a book written in Chinese, and know that it is Chinese.
FreedomForOrcas 2 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas It changes nothing: trainers could tell her if the orcas where pissing off or if they had fight with each others, and with trainers too: in the wild orcas also get angry with members of the pod because they don't have human contact!
They still young, but they're calming down since Morgan arrived. Everytime something was wrong trainers, SW & LP ones, have been working to try to solucionate it. But they're animals, you don't know what are they going to do next.
Corkian 2 months ago
@Corkian - No, it changes all of what you were saying. Suzanne has years of work experience there - she knows what she's talking about.
Wild orcas do NOT get angry because they don't have human contact. I hope that's not what you meant to say, because that's a little bit... ridiculous. No offense.
Since Morgan arrived, nothing has changed. She has been raked intensely, her dorsal is covered with scars now. Plus Morgan isn't interested in them, she just floats and vocalises. It's awful.
FreedomForOrcas 2 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas Morgan is all the time playing with Kohana and Skyla, I have a regular friend there and pictures of her. The pod is calming down so much too, and Morgan is becoming very active in the new pools.
Corkian 2 months ago
@Corkian - Erm... well I've been watching videos of an LP regular who shows that Morgan is ignoring the other orcas, and simply floats at the gate most of the time, or follows the trainer begging for food.
Plus, like I said before, there is photographic evidence of her dorsal covered in rakes. This isn't healthy or normal.
FreedomForOrcas 2 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas So you expect Morgan to be in the wild and never fight with another orca? Trainers call Morgan's attention because she has been interacting with humans for more than a year, and she is more used to us, but since she met other orcas, she's showing interest in them too.
Corkian 2 months ago
@Corkian - No, I don't expect her to never encounter fighting. However she should never ever have encountered a small, confined environment with socially unstable animals that continually rake and abuse each other. The latest video of Morgan at Loro Parque shows her being rammed, attacked and bitten by both Kohana and Skyla. They ganged up on her, and bit her to the point that she was bleeding. It was caught on video.
There is no way that would happen in the wild.
FreedomForOrcas 2 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas I saw that video and that wasn't blood, it is written in the description and you can clearly see it is not (I think it's urine). Angry orcas make bubbles with the blow hole when they're angry and attack.
Orcas can attack each other in the wild if they feel like they have to.
Corkian 2 months ago
This pool is horribly filthy! Disgusting! Take Morgan back to the sea!
DoveDancing 3 months ago
@Freedomfororcas how bout you have some respect and realize your :experts are just a bunch of people that will say/do anything for the right about of bills. So sad for you and your anti friends. But I hope morgan goes to seaworld and lives a nice long healthy life and prove all your anti propaganda asses wrong. maybe then youll see the reality of it. besides your orca expert let a whale die and she could have done something for it. Id like to keep morgan alive than in that death dealers hands
GoAwayPeta 3 months ago
@robhodselmans Alright
orcaholic94 3 months ago
@orcaholic94 can you sed me a mail ans explain what you want to use the footage for? r.hodselmans@planet.nl
robhodselmans 3 months ago
We'll know in a few hours if Morgan will be allowed to return to her home waters, but we already know that every step of her rehab and potential release plan is safe and has been vouched for by the world's top orca scientists. With an excellent location now ready for her, complete with eager townspeople, there is no logical excuse for denying Morgan her natural world and family.
Onchorhynchus 3 months ago 2
Lees de feiten op freemorgan.nl
Wat Morgan verdiend is de vrijheid in de noordelijke oceaan bij haar naaste familie. Noorse community ontvangt haar met open armen en willen zich inzetten om haar te herenigen met haar familie in de vrijheid van Morgan's natuurlijke thuis.
Go to freemorgan.nl and read that Morgan belongs in the Arctic Ocean. Norwegian community welcoms her with open arms and want to bring her back to her family in the ocean what is her natural home.
janvantwillert 3 months ago 2
So Sad the Orca Coalition is Forcing Morgan to stay in that tank cause they cant accept her being happy in another place, instead of alone in a seapen which is also captivity. But you Anti's dont see that. I HOPE DH wins and Morgan goes to LP Quickly. We already know the judge WILL RULE to send her to LP because he doesnt want her released to INCAPABLE HANDS who dontknow what the hell their doing- No experience at all in animal rehab/release.
GoAwayPeta 3 months ago
@GoAwayPeta - Wow, you are sadly miseducated on this topic. Want to talk about incapable hands? How about we start with Loro Parque, a mis-managed facility with trainers who have no degrees at all. How about the orcas there that suffer due to poor facilities. The artificial 'pod' that continually fights each other, and injures their trainers.
These people working on Morgan's release have been doing this for longer than you've been alive. Show some respect before making incorrect assumptions.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
No degrees at all? LOL It doesn't take a 7-8 year degree to make someone credible. Naomi Rose is a flawless example of that. It's experience that counts. Trainers who work full time and directly with animals know them better than anyone else. Naomi claims to be this expert on SeaWorld when the woman has never worked at SW, nevermind spent a day behind-the-scenes. How do we know what goes on in factory farms? WE GO UNDERCOVER. Has she? Nope.
RingneckDoveFan 3 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - Want to talk about 'going undercover'? Suzanne Michele Allee worked at Loro Parque for three and a half years. She saw firsthand how bad LP is. She worked with the trainers, the orcas, and head office. They were unorganised, an unsuitable facility for orcas, and unstable. She wrote a letter explaining her experience and how bad that place is. I've reblogged it on my tumblr, go have a look. It should be at the top.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
She worked in the sound booth. She did not directly work with trainers, she just watched and assumed she thought she knew what she saw. She has NO experience on how marine mammal training works. She also left 6 MONTHS before the trainer was killed, so she has no idea what led to Keto's hissy fit. She is not reliable.
RingneckDoveFan 3 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - Yes, she worked with the trainers and saw first hand the orcas and their temperament. She also had access to cameras on site that watched every move those animals made. She has FIRST HAND experience, that is more proof than you'll ever have.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
Unless she was a trainer, she has no credibility. Whales being horny could come off as "aggressive." She has no idea what she thinks shes talking about.
RingneckDoveFan 3 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - She knows what she's talking about. Like her letter says, she worked in close contact with the trainers when they were working with the orcas. Quote:
"I was in close contact with the trainers regarding the animals’ daily health and temperament, and spent much of my time down by the pools, on the main stage and backstage island"..... face it. You are wrong.
Note the words 'daily health' and 'temperament'.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
Oh really ? What is her degree in?
And where is her credability? Anyone can watch trainers and orcas and THINK they know what they are seeing.
RingneckDoveFan 3 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - Ohhhhh I see how it is, you hypocrite! So when I say the trainers don't have degrees, you say they don't need degrees, just experience! But when someone points out the flaws at Loro Parque, suddenly they need a degree?
Did you miss the part where she said she worked in close contact with the trainers? I'll translate that for you - She worked with the trainers concerning the orca's health and temperament. Meaning, it was the TRAINERS that gave her the information.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
Degrees don't matter. I was clearly mocking you. Experience is everything, as well as common knowledge of marine mammal training, which, this unreliable person does not have.
What was her job position at LP?
"it was the TRAINERS that gave her the information." If I remember correctly, unless you are a trainer, you shouldn't believe what they say, because they lie for the company. Isn't that correct? Now you are the hypocrite.
RingneckDoveFan 3 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - Ahuh, sure. Common knowledge of marine mammal training? Clearly the trainers at Loro Parque lack this, seeing as their orcas are fighting and injuring each other, as well as their trainers.
Dude, read the damn letter I referred to you. If you're going to be a lazy tard and not look up anything for yourself, I'm not going to spoon feed you.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
Most to all killer whale trainers have 4 year Biology/Psychology degrees or higher. LP trainers have worked with SW trainers for several years. Their is nothing wrong with them.
Your blaming how animals act on the trainers? That makes zero sense. Knowledge of marine mammal training and orca dominance issues has nothing to do with training.
RingneckDoveFan 3 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - Did I say that? No. At least SeaWorld trainers know wtf they are doing half the time.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
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@FreedomForOrcas
"Clearly the trainers at Loro Parque lack this, seeing as their orcas are fighting and injuring each other, as well as their trainers."
You did say that.
Your blaming how animals act on the trainers? That makes zero sense. Knowledge of marine mammal training and orca dominance issues has nothing to do with training.
RingneckDoveFan 3 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas wow i dont make incorrect assumptions i educate myself about many things based on both wild and captive cetaceans. All animals fight and well shit happens, BUT as we all learned today MORGAN WILL BE GOING TO LORO PARK, because the Judge ruled in her favor to be in a pod even if its a halfway point to seaworld..I rather her be in a pod than live her life alone in a seapen or begging for attention. But either way WE WIN YOU LOOSE and gues what You experts Turns out WERE BRIBED!
GoAwayPeta 3 months ago
@GoAwayPeta - Wow, what an arrogant little turd you are. To me it seems like you're only happy she's going to a hole of a park just so you can rub it in anti-cap faces. People like you are a waste of space on this earth, and you disgust me.
No, the experts weren't bribed, but you want to talk about bribery? Loro Parque is being paid 100,000 euro to take Morgan, and in return they are getting several dolphins.
Corporate greed trumps science and evidence yet again.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas No Im happy she can be moved to a park with other orcas despite their pod status, Your a waste of space trying to defend these so called experts. Id like to see written proof by loro park that their getting 100,000 euros and some dolphins.. But then again Anti's like you make up stories.. so once again YOU FAIL WE WIN!
GoAwayPeta 3 months ago
@GoAwayPeta - No. You are happy she's going into a life of slavery and suffering just so you can rub it in our faces. I'm a waste of space for defending animal rights? What gave YOU the right to take their freedom away? So-called experts? So studying killer whales for over 20 years isn't enough experience for you, eh? I have spoken to these people personally. They know what they're talking about.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
@GoAwayPeta - Secondly, the team working on Morgan's release is the world's most experienced team. John Ford has years of experience with orca acoustics, and he was the one who matched Morgan's calls to her family - YES her family has been FOUND. There are also marine biologists and orca scientists who've been studying these animals in the wild for over 20 years. No experience? Do a little research before you fly off the bat with these accusations.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
And by the way Dolfinarium, 4 of your OWN 7 experts have gone against your original plan, and are saying she can be released. These are people on your OWN side. Just let her go already. Can't you see the stress and pain you're inflicting on her? She needs her mother in the wild. Loro Parque is NOT her home, and inbred orcas from a different pod are NOT her family.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
Absolutely amazing footage of Morgan. However such a shame she is being kept in such a ridiculous tank. She needs to be with her family in the Netherlands OCEAN. The orcas at Loro Parque are NOT her family. If Adan, a relative, is continually rejected and ignored, what hope does an outsider like Morgan have?
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
May I use this footage?
orcaholic94 3 months ago
"En wel een toekomst heeft...."
Wat je een toekomst noemt.
B4Malfoy 3 months ago
Morgan's family wasn't found, she could have problems and die if she is released. She'll have all the love and attention (and friends!) she needs at Tenerife. She is so beautiful!
Corkian 3 months ago
@Corkian - Her family WAS found. Her calls were matched to P pod in the Netherlands. 77% of her regular calls were matched (the rest were distress calls on Morgan's part, and unable to be matched as P pod was not making distress calls at the time).
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
And what is that other 23%?
RingneckDoveFan 3 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - And secondly, the other 23% was distress calls. However if you want to put it into perspective, that's nearly 8 out of 10 calls matched.
FreedomForOrcas 3 months ago
My prayers go out to poor Morgan. I am hoping and praying that this judge will realize that she deserves to be FREE and allows her to be returned to her family in Norway. When the Dolfinarium Harderwijk was given a CITES import license for Morgan when she was off the Dutch coast it was for rescue \ capture, rehabilitation and release. So why is it .... Shame on you Dolfinarium Harderwijk.....
guva2212 3 months ago 2
steve. hoe weet je dat nou dat ze dat niet overleeft?
heb je bewijs dan? nou!! vent je weet niet waar je over praat! jij denk ook alleen maar aan geld k.... je weet toch zelf hoe het met keiko ging. nou!!! weet je wat ze verdient een kans op vrijlating. ze houden alles in de gaten met het plan. dus wat lul je nou. je kan het mooi spelen. is acteur niet een mooi baantje voor steve.... freeee morgan
hermanewa 3 months ago