MissMoxie78: If this is such a Great Bill, then why wasn't it past last year when there was a super majority of Democrats and why are Democrats still holding it up? Why aren't Dems running to vote on this Bill right now? Further, this whole Bill is a farce. There can never be a correct CBO score on this Bill because the $210 billion Doctor's fix is not included. The Doctor's Fix was passed outside of the HC Bill and was passed without giving a method to pay for it. So much for PAYGO.
MissMoxie78 Let's see. If Obama would have governed like he professed he was going to do during his campaign, there would be more wide spread approval of his programs and agenda. As a Senator, he was against reconsilliation as an answer to the Health Care Bill and as a candidate, he was against Health Care mandates.
Read; the U.S Constitution, Article I, Section VII, Clause II - One of the most exacting clauses in the Constitution
Neither bill has been laid on Obama's desk for his signature; which is called, the Presentation Provision of the Constitution which makes it illegal to amend bills by reconciliation such as the HC bill & the Pelosi\Slaughter attempt to by pass the Constitution watch #!v=5 XPF s76w Ge0
I want my fucking public option, I'm willing to pay premiums how much would that cost me and still be zero cost zero taxes on any tax payer. I left work to raise my son supported by my middle class family the only thing they can't get us is insurance thru work. so I get Medicaid don't cost me shit everything covered. I have better health care then my parents for which costs you money. and thats retarded my incentive should be to work but if I made to much I lose my health care
I quite agree actually, tkca25. Obama's refusal to repeal the Patriot Act is disturbing and not something you would expect from a professor of Constitutional Law.
But Brown is not in a position to criticize the same tactics that his party uses.
SourcesAreEverything Nor are Democrats that keep making the same mistakes as the Republicans. To make the same mistakes and then turn around and say "well the Republicans did it, so we can do it too" is mind boggling. If something is wrong, it's wrong. It should not be a tool to use previous bad behavior as reason to continue bad behavior.
Mistakes? Like starting two illegal wars that bankrupted and demoralized the entire country without the consent of Congress???
But of course, consolidating your party to create a health care system with wider coverage is just as bad as, right?
tkca25, like all Republicans YOU'RE a hypocrite. The Democrats won and will pass a health care bill that the Republicans were too heartless to create (though they seemed to pull the torture bill out of their asses within days). Now get over it & STFU.
Sources: If this Health Care Bill is so fantastic, then why wasn't it passed last year when there was a super majority? What is sad is that the people that are expecting to receive health care as soon as the Bill is passed. This time next year, when people realize that they are still have at least three years before the majority of the benefits kick in, there is going to be a major outcry for relief. That is cruel.
@tkca25 Yet another REPUBLICAN decision made as a result of special interest control over that party. That's just more conservative hypocrisy and I agree, it is cruel to allow insurance companies to recoup before covering pre-existing conditions.
Republicans have a history of choosing special interests over wider coverage. [National Association of Public Hospitals and Health Systems. (2009).
"Massachusetts Health Reform: Lessons Learned about the Critical Role of Safety
SourcesAreEverything: It is not the Republicans that are MANDATING all Americans to buy Insurance nor are they the ones stating that the MANDATES will start three to four years before the majority of the benefits go into effect. It is not the Repubs that are saying that they are going to pay for the new EXCHANGE by using the $500 billion cuts in MediCare while at the same time that same $500 billion will be used to keep Medicare solvent. That is counting the money twice. You can't have both.
As soon as BOTH parties in Congress, AND THE PRESIDENT'S FAMILY, get the same "health care" they're trying to jam down our throats, I will jump up and down and shill for it.
Anyone who can't agree with that is a moron, or a shill.
SourcesAreEverything: Sources for what?
tkca25 1 year ago
hahaha I rest my case tkca25. You're just another uninformed republican moron.
p.s. WE WON BITCH!!! :-D
Now every single major industrialized democracy has some form of socialized healthcare service.
LIBERALISM FOR THE WIN!!!
SourcesAreEverything 1 year ago
SourcesAreEverything Congratulations on the passage of the Health Care Bill. Enjoy!!
tkca25 1 year ago
tkca25, I question your sources.
SourcesAreEverything 2 years ago
Scott Brown is such a dolt, and so is the prepared speech he was given.
pbmdh 2 years ago
MissMoxie78: If this is such a Great Bill, then why wasn't it past last year when there was a super majority of Democrats and why are Democrats still holding it up? Why aren't Dems running to vote on this Bill right now? Further, this whole Bill is a farce. There can never be a correct CBO score on this Bill because the $210 billion Doctor's fix is not included. The Doctor's Fix was passed outside of the HC Bill and was passed without giving a method to pay for it. So much for PAYGO.
tkca25 2 years ago
MissMoxie78 Let's see. If Obama would have governed like he professed he was going to do during his campaign, there would be more wide spread approval of his programs and agenda. As a Senator, he was against reconsilliation as an answer to the Health Care Bill and as a candidate, he was against Health Care mandates.
tkca25 2 years ago
Read; the U.S Constitution, Article I, Section VII, Clause II - One of the most exacting clauses in the Constitution
Neither bill has been laid on Obama's desk for his signature; which is called, the Presentation Provision of the Constitution which makes it illegal to amend bills by reconciliation such as the HC bill & the Pelosi\Slaughter attempt to by pass the Constitution watch #!v=5 XPF s76w Ge0
search4truth1 2 years ago
Obama Flashback - in the flesh & his own words // blip (.) tv / play / hJNR gcqadgI % 2 Em 4v
Yep, he 'did' say it!
search4truth1 2 years ago
Drop the whole progressive scheme of Fed HC control take over? That's too logical & what many actually want.
Naaah, and that wouldn't give Obama, et al, control of America now would it?
The will of the people be damned is Obama's (& the progressives) way of doing things
search4truth1 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
'We have to pass the HC bill before you can see it!'
~Pelosi, Mar 10, 10
Perhaps this is why Pelosi, et al, won't permit a review of the HC bill they're now trying to jam through
you tube (.) com / watch # !v = HcB a SP31 Be8
Yes, there of course have been 'some'...erm, 'changes' since but not many
search4truth1 2 years ago
talking thumb,cant read a screen,moroon
gocatty 2 years ago
Senator Brown, take some reading classes. This is pretty poor
KagarBeardtooth 2 years ago
Passing laws with 50 votes, just like the Constitution says you should?
The horror!
greyflcn 2 years ago
They sent a Lindsey Graham/John McCain Hypocrite!
33ItHappens 2 years ago
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666bushisnazi666 2 years ago
@666bushisnazi666 Obama Flashback - in the flesh & his own words // blip (.) tv / play / hJNR gcqadgI % 2 Em 4v
Yep, he 'did' say it!
search4truth1 2 years ago
This HC bill is not an American agenda, it's an Obama & progressive agenda
search4truth1 2 years ago
This guy is a liar.
666bushisnazi666 2 years ago
President Soetoro has actually saved/helped plenty of Acorn jobs.
jag10 2 years ago
the only way to improve the economy is to raise the minimum wage to $9/hour this way people have naturally more money to spend
ogapadoga 2 years ago 2
I want my fucking public option, I'm willing to pay premiums how much would that cost me and still be zero cost zero taxes on any tax payer. I left work to raise my son supported by my middle class family the only thing they can't get us is insurance thru work. so I get Medicaid don't cost me shit everything covered. I have better health care then my parents for which costs you money. and thats retarded my incentive should be to work but if I made to much I lose my health care
sx200ser 2 years ago
Keep up the fight Senator. Your words are very much appreciated.
tkca25 2 years ago
author?
Leebm29 2 years ago
I'm thinking health insurance corporations.
saintearth 2 years ago
4:12 "Speaker Pelosi and others are handing down their marching orders, telling them to vote for this bill no matter what."
Like your ENTIRE party did with the Patriot Act? Republicans are such hypocrites.
SourcesAreEverything 2 years ago 9
SourcesAreEverything You mean like Obama and Congress extending the Patriot Act this year? Whose the hypocrite?
tkca25 2 years ago 2
I quite agree actually, tkca25. Obama's refusal to repeal the Patriot Act is disturbing and not something you would expect from a professor of Constitutional Law.
But Brown is not in a position to criticize the same tactics that his party uses.
SourcesAreEverything 2 years ago 2
SourcesAreEverything Nor are Democrats that keep making the same mistakes as the Republicans. To make the same mistakes and then turn around and say "well the Republicans did it, so we can do it too" is mind boggling. If something is wrong, it's wrong. It should not be a tool to use previous bad behavior as reason to continue bad behavior.
tkca25 2 years ago
Mistakes? Like starting two illegal wars that bankrupted and demoralized the entire country without the consent of Congress???
But of course, consolidating your party to create a health care system with wider coverage is just as bad as, right?
tkca25, like all Republicans YOU'RE a hypocrite. The Democrats won and will pass a health care bill that the Republicans were too heartless to create (though they seemed to pull the torture bill out of their asses within days). Now get over it & STFU.
SourcesAreEverything 2 years ago
Sources: If this Health Care Bill is so fantastic, then why wasn't it passed last year when there was a super majority? What is sad is that the people that are expecting to receive health care as soon as the Bill is passed. This time next year, when people realize that they are still have at least three years before the majority of the benefits kick in, there is going to be a major outcry for relief. That is cruel.
tkca25 2 years ago
@tkca25 Yet another REPUBLICAN decision made as a result of special interest control over that party. That's just more conservative hypocrisy and I agree, it is cruel to allow insurance companies to recoup before covering pre-existing conditions.
Republicans have a history of choosing special interests over wider coverage. [National Association of Public Hospitals and Health Systems. (2009).
"Massachusetts Health Reform: Lessons Learned about the Critical Role of Safety
Net Health Systems".]
SourcesAreEverything 2 years ago
SourcesAreEverything: It is not the Republicans that are MANDATING all Americans to buy Insurance nor are they the ones stating that the MANDATES will start three to four years before the majority of the benefits go into effect. It is not the Repubs that are saying that they are going to pay for the new EXCHANGE by using the $500 billion cuts in MediCare while at the same time that same $500 billion will be used to keep Medicare solvent. That is counting the money twice. You can't have both.
tkca25 2 years ago
As soon as BOTH parties in Congress, AND THE PRESIDENT'S FAMILY, get the same "health care" they're trying to jam down our throats, I will jump up and down and shill for it.
Anyone who can't agree with that is a moron, or a shill.
bigc028282 2 years ago
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NuLLx42 2 years ago
But...but...this guy drives a truck.
xxEROxxSENNINxx 2 years ago 6
@xxEROxxSENNINxx and he has electrolytes, there what voters need.
MrTearsintherain 2 years ago
this guy is a joke
savior02 2 years ago 6
He reads like a robot.
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thebeartaxes 2 years ago 9
@thebeartaxes
Haha binary code ftw
delta9999 2 years ago