My Dad saw the raising of both flags on Surabachi He came in on the second day I believe as infantry replacement One story he told me was when the Japs hit an ammunition dump of 155mm howitzer shells the dugout that the marines used was blocked by rubble including a 155 shell and he dug them out and then with another volunteer ran the wire which had been cut to forward observation for the 155 howitzers He was lucky not to be wounded but lost friends
Of course the US was not defeated on the battlefield in Vietnam but they lost the political struggle as oftimes happens regarldless of military victories Ireland gained it's independence not by military victory but because of British public opinion against the suppression of the IRA and the collateral damage, My Dad was on Iwo Jima and though he did talk about it there were places he would not go The japs were more willing to die than the Germans but did not have the military skill and tatics
@no1kiyoko That group of amateurs slaughtered thousands of Chinese civilians, defeated British troops in the Pacific, and attacked Pearl Harbor. Impressive for pitch forked farmers. Marines do not use this for budget decisions. I love Japan, lived there for five years, but do not down play this in defense of your country.
Thats all that needed to be said. You think Vietnam wasn't "war", that Nam vets don't know what "war" is. You are a little kid, or a total idiot, im betting on the latter.
@danwk7 Iwo JIma was where the phrase of "War is Hell" originated, Not Vietnam. WWII Had a cause, Vietnam did not. Go read your History you're 29 so I guess you think you're invincible and know it all, when clearly you don't.
The phrase has nothing to do with anything, its just a phrase. The "cause" of Vietnam was to stop the spread of communism. You are so fucking dumb im done arguing about it, good luck being an ignorant dumb ass.
@danwk7@danwk7 Like I said Iwo had a cause, Vietnam didn't. And close the door on the way out! LOL temper tantrum, this Video reminds me of you.---------->watch?v=i57IwNGu_qQ
@danwk7 Lol, World war 2 was way bloodier than Vietnam and it really demonstrates what war is. The Americans fought in Vietnam but didn't face hunger and exhaustion the way people in world war 2 did. I suggest you do some research before posting idiotic comments.
Every time I watch one of these older clips like this, it makes me even MORE proud to carry the title. I will never forget these guys. Semper Fi...And Navy.. Thank you for always being there. My whole family was Navy. I was the black sheep :-)
This is unbelieveaable. These men are up to the quality of Easy Company. This was not as big as Bastogne, but the Japanese were a better force than the Germans. All respect to the Japanese. The American people love victory. That is what is important in war. Victory! The US has never been defeated and never will be. The American people are superior to all others. It takes a real man to be an American Citizen.
OK. Shall we agree that the men of Easy Company are the most famous. The guys at Iwo Jima did great work too, not just the ones who raised the flag in a photo op.
@HOLYfatboy10 Actually the USA never lost in Vietnam. The Americans people agreed to stop the fighting, as Americans are a peace loving people. The Vietnamese had seen reason, and there was no reason to punish them further. Vietnam was effectively an Allied Victory.
@swanningaround Vietnam was not a victory you dumbass. The American forces were pushed back by the communist forces. The Vietnamese commander effectively convinced the american people that there was no point in fighting in Vietnam. The Americans couldn't take Vietnam for 20 years, and they wouldn't be able to do it.
@swanningaround You call American troops pulling out of Vietnam and the communists taking over cambodia and Laos a victory? You must be completely retarded.
@HOLYfatboy10 Please name one battle in Viet Nam where the Americans lost........
That's what I thought. The truth is Tet was a complete disaster, The Viet Cong were totally eliminated and removed as a fighting force, and hence the NVA had to invade South Viet Nam. The Media played Tet as a strategic loss for the US and now we know TET was a tremendous victory for the US. So much for the media…
@TellTheMarines The NVA was winning the war against the US. And the south Viet Nam country was a country that betrayed the vietnamese soldier who was fought against the french.
But respectfully, nobody win in a war they were just have less death than the others
@TellTheMarines you have to know how to read the media and do a little more than watch the nightly news if you want the real facts but compared to the enemy's media ours was tremendous As a kid I listened to Short wave radio from Moscow and Peking and you wouldn't believe the outright lies presented as truth and the facts often tottaly ignored
@elamite66 Well it’s a good thing I got my experience on the Viet Name war from living in Thailand, Cambodia, Viet Nam, Okinawa and the Philippines, and not the media.
@elamite66 I did too. We used to get radio Canton. What a laugh. They were always talking about "yankee imperialists", "running dogs" and "Japanese paper tigers", not to forget the noble exploits of the "glorious NVA revolutionaries" and "liberators of the masses". It seems all countries preach the same rubbish.
@HOLYfatboy10 No they didn't. That's one of the biggest lies in American history. Where's the document of our surrender? I guarantee all of those soldiers wanted to stay. It's like in Somalia, it's the president's fault we left. We could have won. It's not a measure of our military is was a measure of politicians, but then again, what else is war?
@HOLYfatboy10 loss isn't really how to discribe it all though i agree it is a loss it was not because of the military. the military took everything charlie gave and threw it his face the Tet offensives a good example the people who really lost that war was the american public and their lack of support for the war. The NVA new that the american people did not want a prolonged warand fought the war according to guidlines that would fit their goal of getting america to turn on the war.
@swanningaround Lol you're very ignorant. The American people are superior? HAHA, in what? Maybe in stupidity? The U.S lost many IMPORTANT WARS, for example the Vietnam War.
@swanningaround I love How Americans think they saved someone in world war 2. The U.S did do a lot, nobody denies that, however they didn't save anyone. The Germans would have still lost to the Red Army. You are obviously uneducated and are blinded by a stupid veil of nationalism.
@swanningaround lol you dont have skills and quality in fight, only you have is weapons weapons weapns, you dont have faith in something, only in your dreams to take over all over the world. dream on and build more weapons to Kill. you dont have history and you are not amerikan, the only original amerikans is the indians.
@swanningaround r u serious man the Germans had tanks and shit the Japanese only had arty (which the Germans had) and like 12 tanks i was a more savage war in the pacific but the war in Europe was more mechanized and the Germans were generally better trained and equipped
@TheRealThang88 The Germans were a joke compared with the Japanese. Read about the battle of Letye Gulf some time. The Japanese gave the Americans a real contest. They were certainly number 2. The Americans dismissed the Japanese in public, but privately they rated them. The Americans thought of the Japanese as racial inferiors. They still do.
@swanningaround well idk if the germans where a "joke" they where just more like us...they fought with their minds not their hearts...unlike the japs who would all rather die than be captured or surrender...the japs where just crazy
@joevalu I have to agree with you. Americans have always fought with their minds, not their hearts. That is why American Capitalism will always beat Russian and Chinese Communism and Japanese Tradition, Man for man, the Japanese were superior to the Americans. However, the country is too small. The USA had 48 states, like 48 countries, Japan only 1 state.
@Dogmeat1950 I agree that Iwo Jima was quite a big battle. Nothing compared with battles like Manassas and Chancellorsville though, when you were up against the very best troops in the world.
@Sturmmann I cannot see it. The German soldiers were considered to be very good, amost as good as the Americans. The Japanese were described officially as being half ape half human short sighted dwarves, armed with swords and axes. The Americans at Iwo Jima envisaged an easy victory.
@swanningaround That "official" view of the Japanese was from 1938-39, and had absolutely no bearing on the view of the Japanese soldier at the time of Iwo. No Americans thought that Iwo would be easy, the true question was what condition were the Japanese troops in since they had only submarine resupply for the last three months before the invasion. By Iwo the Japanese infantryman was a proven fighter, and while not so much feared as respected.
@Eye4Lites don't think so. That is why the Japanese were burnt to ashes with flamethrowers. They were through of as just vermin. Any Japanese person will tell you this. I have spoken to soldiers of the time. They hated the Japanese. The hatred still bubbles beneath the surface. You know it does.
@swanningaround The flamethrower was the most effective weapon for use against fortifications. Yes they were thought of as vermin, but the Japanese won't admit it as you say, they can't even teach the history correctly out of shame. Many hated them, some still do, but most have come to a different mindset. Still doesn't change the fact that they were a respected as soldiers.
@swanningaround I'll have to disagree with the characterization of Japan having a better army than the Germans. No doubt the Japanese were tenacious, formidable opponents, but they don't hold a candle to the German army.
There's not enough space for me to include his quote, but check out what Gen. Lightning Joe Collins had to say about the two armies. He fought in both theaters of the war.
Well done marines! Aww raw!
Killhodge 3 weeks ago
My dad had a recording of a distress call from Iwo Jima from a marine..anyone ever heard it?
Imachowderhead 8 months ago
all my dads friends got killed in the vetnom war so no there were no winners.
roywright100 11 months ago
My Dad saw the raising of both flags on Surabachi He came in on the second day I believe as infantry replacement One story he told me was when the Japs hit an ammunition dump of 155mm howitzer shells the dugout that the marines used was blocked by rubble including a 155 shell and he dug them out and then with another volunteer ran the wire which had been cut to forward observation for the 155 howitzers He was lucky not to be wounded but lost friends
elamite66 1 year ago
Of course the US was not defeated on the battlefield in Vietnam but they lost the political struggle as oftimes happens regarldless of military victories Ireland gained it's independence not by military victory but because of British public opinion against the suppression of the IRA and the collateral damage, My Dad was on Iwo Jima and though he did talk about it there were places he would not go The japs were more willing to die than the Germans but did not have the military skill and tatics
elamite66 1 year ago
why argue there on the same side
eaglemike1515 1 year ago
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Do not be offended.
I am a super supporter for U.S. and U.S. forces.
In the neighborhood of this country, there are two autocracies having nuclear weapons.
We understand that thanks to U.S ,we can sleep well every day .
no1kiyoko 1 year ago
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no1kiyoko 1 year ago
Was the U.S Marine strong? Is this a so big battle ?
Jap armed forces were groups of amateurs who were not well trained .
Most of them were farmers ・ bank clerks ・ factory workers and etc. not professional.
In addition, they did not have enough weapons ・ammunition ・water ・ food.
I think that the Marine make good use of the fight of Iwo Jima to get as possible much budgets.
no1kiyoko 1 year ago
@no1kiyoko That group of amateurs slaughtered thousands of Chinese civilians, defeated British troops in the Pacific, and attacked Pearl Harbor. Impressive for pitch forked farmers. Marines do not use this for budget decisions. I love Japan, lived there for five years, but do not down play this in defense of your country.
haleyfamily1975 1 year ago
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no1kiyoko 1 year ago
This Actually was the second flag raised not the first......
Dipset1013 2 years ago
Nam was nothing compared to Iwo Jima Nam vets woulden't have known what war was, only the Defenders and Invaders of Iwo-jima new what war was.
happymana 2 years ago
you're a fucking idiot.
danwk7 2 years ago
@danwk7 Gee your limited in what to say arn't you...Typical Dumbass comment.
happymana 2 years ago
Thats all that needed to be said. You think Vietnam wasn't "war", that Nam vets don't know what "war" is. You are a little kid, or a total idiot, im betting on the latter.
danwk7 2 years ago
@danwk7 Iwo JIma was where the phrase of "War is Hell" originated, Not Vietnam. WWII Had a cause, Vietnam did not. Go read your History you're 29 so I guess you think you're invincible and know it all, when clearly you don't.
happymana 2 years ago
The phrase has nothing to do with anything, its just a phrase. The "cause" of Vietnam was to stop the spread of communism. You are so fucking dumb im done arguing about it, good luck being an ignorant dumb ass.
danwk7 2 years ago
@danwk7 @danwk7 Like I said Iwo had a cause, Vietnam didn't. And close the door on the way out! LOL temper tantrum, this Video reminds me of you.---------->watch?v=i57IwNGu_qQ
happymana 2 years ago
@danwk7 Lol, World war 2 was way bloodier than Vietnam and it really demonstrates what war is. The Americans fought in Vietnam but didn't face hunger and exhaustion the way people in world war 2 did. I suggest you do some research before posting idiotic comments.
strongman325 1 year ago
@happymana Maybe this did create "war is Hell" but Nam took that phrase to a whole new level
kungfufreak5 1 year ago
where is this footage from?
lachlanpudduh 2 years ago
Every time I watch one of these older clips like this, it makes me even MORE proud to carry the title. I will never forget these guys. Semper Fi...And Navy.. Thank you for always being there. My whole family was Navy. I was the black sheep :-)
Thanks for all the posts from TTM. Carry On!
jjohnston1 2 years ago
hell yeeah
guitarplaya1414 2 years ago
This is unbelieveaable. These men are up to the quality of Easy Company. This was not as big as Bastogne, but the Japanese were a better force than the Germans. All respect to the Japanese. The American people love victory. That is what is important in war. Victory! The US has never been defeated and never will be. The American people are superior to all others. It takes a real man to be an American Citizen.
swanningaround 2 years ago
Unfortunately, I'll respectfully disagree. Iwo Jima was a hell of a lot bigger and more important.
I will agree that Bastogne was an Great example of The American Army's performance.
TellTheMarines 2 years ago
OK. Shall we agree that the men of Easy Company are the most famous. The guys at Iwo Jima did great work too, not just the ones who raised the flag in a photo op.
swanningaround 2 years ago
i am english but i still like the marines and respect the usa
benjarsenal 2 years ago
@TellTheMarines Agreed
wintersnoob 1 year ago
@swanningaround Umm They Lost To Vietnam
HOLYfatboy10 1 year ago
@HOLYfatboy10 Actually the USA never lost in Vietnam. The Americans people agreed to stop the fighting, as Americans are a peace loving people. The Vietnamese had seen reason, and there was no reason to punish them further. Vietnam was effectively an Allied Victory.
swanningaround 1 year ago
@swanningaround Vietnam was not a victory you dumbass. The American forces were pushed back by the communist forces. The Vietnamese commander effectively convinced the american people that there was no point in fighting in Vietnam. The Americans couldn't take Vietnam for 20 years, and they wouldn't be able to do it.
strongman325 1 year ago
@swanningaround You call American troops pulling out of Vietnam and the communists taking over cambodia and Laos a victory? You must be completely retarded.
strongman325 1 year ago
@HOLYfatboy10 no, sth vietnam did
gagsterde 1 year ago
@HOLYfatboy10 Please name one battle in Viet Nam where the Americans lost........
That's what I thought. The truth is Tet was a complete disaster, The Viet Cong were totally eliminated and removed as a fighting force, and hence the NVA had to invade South Viet Nam. The Media played Tet as a strategic loss for the US and now we know TET was a tremendous victory for the US. So much for the media…
TellTheMarines 1 year ago 2
@TellTheMarines The NVA was winning the war against the US. And the south Viet Nam country was a country that betrayed the vietnamese soldier who was fought against the french.
But respectfully, nobody win in a war they were just have less death than the others
TimoBollTri 1 year ago
@TellTheMarines you have to know how to read the media and do a little more than watch the nightly news if you want the real facts but compared to the enemy's media ours was tremendous As a kid I listened to Short wave radio from Moscow and Peking and you wouldn't believe the outright lies presented as truth and the facts often tottaly ignored
elamite66 1 year ago
@elamite66 Well it’s a good thing I got my experience on the Viet Name war from living in Thailand, Cambodia, Viet Nam, Okinawa and the Philippines, and not the media.
TellTheMarines 1 year ago
@elamite66 I did too. We used to get radio Canton. What a laugh. They were always talking about "yankee imperialists", "running dogs" and "Japanese paper tigers", not to forget the noble exploits of the "glorious NVA revolutionaries" and "liberators of the masses". It seems all countries preach the same rubbish.
swanningaround 1 year ago
@TellTheMarines look all of my fathers friends got killed in viet nam there were no winners and by the way we lost that war !!! no one won.
roywright100 11 months ago
@HOLYfatboy10 No they didn't. That's one of the biggest lies in American history. Where's the document of our surrender? I guarantee all of those soldiers wanted to stay. It's like in Somalia, it's the president's fault we left. We could have won. It's not a measure of our military is was a measure of politicians, but then again, what else is war?
HeardGraceshot 1 year ago
@HOLYfatboy10 loss isn't really how to discribe it all though i agree it is a loss it was not because of the military. the military took everything charlie gave and threw it his face the Tet offensives a good example the people who really lost that war was the american public and their lack of support for the war. The NVA new that the american people did not want a prolonged warand fought the war according to guidlines that would fit their goal of getting america to turn on the war.
TheOlemissu 8 months ago
@swanningaround Lol you're very ignorant. The American people are superior? HAHA, in what? Maybe in stupidity? The U.S lost many IMPORTANT WARS, for example the Vietnam War.
strongman325 1 year ago
@swanningaround I love How Americans think they saved someone in world war 2. The U.S did do a lot, nobody denies that, however they didn't save anyone. The Germans would have still lost to the Red Army. You are obviously uneducated and are blinded by a stupid veil of nationalism.
strongman325 1 year ago
@swanningaround lol you dont have skills and quality in fight, only you have is weapons weapons weapns, you dont have faith in something, only in your dreams to take over all over the world. dream on and build more weapons to Kill. you dont have history and you are not amerikan, the only original amerikans is the indians.
porfiros7 1 year ago
@swanningaround r u serious man the Germans had tanks and shit the Japanese only had arty (which the Germans had) and like 12 tanks i was a more savage war in the pacific but the war in Europe was more mechanized and the Germans were generally better trained and equipped
TheRealThang88 1 year ago
@TheRealThang88 The Germans were a joke compared with the Japanese. Read about the battle of Letye Gulf some time. The Japanese gave the Americans a real contest. They were certainly number 2. The Americans dismissed the Japanese in public, but privately they rated them. The Americans thought of the Japanese as racial inferiors. They still do.
swanningaround 1 year ago
@swanningaround well idk if the germans where a "joke" they where just more like us...they fought with their minds not their hearts...unlike the japs who would all rather die than be captured or surrender...the japs where just crazy
joevalu 1 year ago
@joevalu I have to agree with you. Americans have always fought with their minds, not their hearts. That is why American Capitalism will always beat Russian and Chinese Communism and Japanese Tradition, Man for man, the Japanese were superior to the Americans. However, the country is too small. The USA had 48 states, like 48 countries, Japan only 1 state.
swanningaround 1 year ago
@swanningaround NOT as big!?!?! it's freak in Battle of Iwo Jima the Island is a damn Fortress!
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
@Dogmeat1950 I agree that Iwo Jima was quite a big battle. Nothing compared with battles like Manassas and Chancellorsville though, when you were up against the very best troops in the world.
swanningaround 1 year ago
@swanningaround
easy company?
those fuckers lost a record number of men....thats nothing to brag about, especially when facing germans who'd surrender easily.
Iwo Jima practically won the war in the pacific if you think about what happened later
Sturmmann 1 year ago
@Sturmmann I cannot see it. The German soldiers were considered to be very good, amost as good as the Americans. The Japanese were described officially as being half ape half human short sighted dwarves, armed with swords and axes. The Americans at Iwo Jima envisaged an easy victory.
swanningaround 1 year ago
@swanningaround
A Marine isnt a good soldier, he's a Marine. incomparable by any other standard.
and he has made the Germans run more than on one occasion in WW1.
Blanc Mont...Bellau Wood, Soissons, Argonne. St Mihiel.....
the brits and the french couldnt take Blanc Mont for 3 years of the war from the Germans after suffering hundreds of thousands.
The US Marines did it in 3 hrs
Sturmmann 1 year ago
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@Sturmmann Thank you. You are quite correct.
swanningaround 1 year ago
@Sturmmann Was that with or without John Wayne?
strathpipe 1 year ago
@swanningaround That "official" view of the Japanese was from 1938-39, and had absolutely no bearing on the view of the Japanese soldier at the time of Iwo. No Americans thought that Iwo would be easy, the true question was what condition were the Japanese troops in since they had only submarine resupply for the last three months before the invasion. By Iwo the Japanese infantryman was a proven fighter, and while not so much feared as respected.
Eye4Lites 1 year ago
@Eye4Lites don't think so. That is why the Japanese were burnt to ashes with flamethrowers. They were through of as just vermin. Any Japanese person will tell you this. I have spoken to soldiers of the time. They hated the Japanese. The hatred still bubbles beneath the surface. You know it does.
swanningaround 1 year ago
@swanningaround The flamethrower was the most effective weapon for use against fortifications. Yes they were thought of as vermin, but the Japanese won't admit it as you say, they can't even teach the history correctly out of shame. Many hated them, some still do, but most have come to a different mindset. Still doesn't change the fact that they were a respected as soldiers.
Eye4Lites 1 year ago
@swanningaround Well said, long live america
olvoro11 1 year ago
@swanningaround bastogne wasn't very big, but the battle of the bulge was our largest engagement with over 600,000 US soldiers, 70,000 in iwo jima.
jumperdude8108 4 months ago
@swanningaround
easy company didnt do shit at Bastogne dumbass, it was the tank destroyer battalions that did most of the panzer slicing there.
All infantry did was get mortared
USMarineRifleman0311 3 months ago
@swanningaround I'll have to disagree with the characterization of Japan having a better army than the Germans. No doubt the Japanese were tenacious, formidable opponents, but they don't hold a candle to the German army.
There's not enough space for me to include his quote, but check out what Gen. Lightning Joe Collins had to say about the two armies. He fought in both theaters of the war.
RobertELegal 3 months ago
OOHRAH
marinecorps1234 3 years ago
nice video! xD P
alliwantiz 3 years ago
AWESOME!
SEMPER FI, MAC!
vtec22ph 3 years ago
nice bro great video
semperfi
waitingtobeamarine 3 years ago
the Army can never do this. The U.S. Marines and Navy fighting together
invictus014 3 years ago
the Army can never do this. The U.S. Marines and Navy fighting together
invictus014 3 years ago
hahaha, so true
lotusblack80 3 years ago
great footage
Oorah
grit123 4 years ago
Oo Rah! true American heroes!!! Marines kicked some serious ass on that island!
hockeyi721 4 years ago