John Bonham Tutorial Kit

[JonesSs1993]

Whats that for Promark drumsticks?

[Abasuto]

Sweet kit, but personally I'd rather have the Sonor kit in the background.

[raphlo2]

The kick drum seems to be tuned tightly. All I'd ever heard about Bonham is that his kick drum was really lose, like a wet blanket. The outside one tuned high but the batter side tuned loose just to the point of taking the wrinkles out of the head.

[LedZeppelinFanPage]

Ludwig is the best ! I want that kit !

[MrJoetrix]

I'm pretty sure that cowbell says Ludwig on it.

[DMRsounds]

@MrJoetrix made by paiste for ludwig.

[neurobloc]

i want that kit bad!!

[delacerdaa]

Does this old guy know how to play drums at all????

[DrummingBonham]

The biggest thing i wanted to know was what kind of wood it was and he didnt say... the most important thing.. i hope it was maple i just orderd a maple set

[metallikuh520]

@DrummingBonham ahahah yeah you're right that is so retarded he didn't say that. That is one of the most important specs...but yeah I believe they are maples.

[equallyeasilyfuqyou]

i want it badly

[nastymonster]

the bass drum is 26x14 and not 14x26 the rack tom is 14x10 not 10x14

[funkytomtom]

@nastymonster There isn't only one order to drum dimensions. I think 26x14 makes more sense, but a lot of manufacturers and drummers will refer to that size as a 14x26.

[MYNAMETAYLA]

00:43 AMAZING PEDAL. I own one myself and it's one of the best pedals I've ever played with.

[BerkLeeDrm]

confirmed...I was doing something right all them years. I was always told when I was still dropping sticks,,,that if your tubs sounded crappy to you,they sounded great out in the audience, and vice versa. and tuned so you could play revelie on the set, or, gotta get up, gotta get up, in the morning.

[DeanIgnacio]

a ludwig cowbell made by paiste? is that a contradiction?

[sgtpepper1138]

@DeanIgnacio Technically yeah, but I believe they also made LUDWIG cymbals that were made by paiste.

[margovallen]

@sgtpepper1138 Yess.. Ludwig Paiste made exclusively for the Ludwig drum company and sometimes sold along with Ludwig drum-kits.. a long time ago. I had a friend who had an LP 16 crash... sounded pretty good.. not the quality of Formula 602's.. Giant Beat's or 2002's.

[gamafon]

I WANT THAT !!!!!!!!!

[FuxFucis]

Pedal totally sucks

[alexixon]

i love this sound, i think that is really perfect.

[wootonworks1]

it might just be me, but i really like that brown leather throne! anyone know where you can get one, i guess i just like brown leather better than black ha ha

[whentheleveebreaks11]

i have this video. great vid

[excusemyenglish]

does the kit has any eq. for the video? it's sounds great!!

[Woody476]

John Bonham's style: Often imitated, but never duplicated. It took me a while to get into his drumming, but watching this gave me a whole new respect for his playing, innovation, and thinking. Great Man. 5/5

[wootonworks1]

After reading slot of the comments on this video, I have something to say. If you like Joey jordison and Travis barker, that is fine. But everyone must realize that bonham was around way before those guys. And has probably influenced them in someway. Just like Joey and Travis influence some of you

[FrankDrums92]

@wootonworks1 well put

[dedpoets]

Actually he did double bass for a short time but decided to go back to one.

[tp10488]

correct, but it was the rest of the group that overruled him using the double kick set. In fact, Page complained to manager Peter Grant about it and Grant threatened to release him if he didn't listen to Page. Read the book "A Thunder of Drums" and you'll find it.

[pedrojuan999]

@dedpoets .dint he get told by the band to stop it!lolit was too much for them

[dedpoets]

Yeah they actually took it or hid one of them on him haha

[JJordisonrocks]

i dont know what the big deal with Bonham is, he couldn't even do double bass?

[nickdog670]

He didn't need double bass. He did everything with one foot. Listen to good times bad times by led zeppelin and tell me if you can do that with one foot. Start to listening to good bands and good drummers instead of Slipknot and Joey Jordison. All he does in his solos are eighth notes and double bass... Why do people even look up to him for inspiration for being a drummer; Travis Barker too. Buddy Rich, John Bonham, Jason McGerr, and numerous are way better than that Joey Jordison garbage.

[DrumGuitarDude]

Dont forget Ian Paice!

[kfsfkakf]

Neil Peart and Keith Moon as well

[RyanDiamond100]

I don't get why people think a drummer is great because they use double bass >:(

Bonham- in ways- was great because he didn't use double bass, and had that incomparable stly of his own.

[ADAMKTN]

@RyanDiamond100 -- actually he did use a double bass for awhile -- Jimmy hid it from him though because he couldn't keep up with any of the shit that he was doing on it. Nothing recorded, just wanted to dispell the myth that John never used a double bass.

[RyanDiamond100]

@ADAMKTN Cool, I don't think he ever used a double bass pedal on any recordings though? I'm not sure though :P

[HardRock5656]

@ADAMKTN his first kit (the maple one i think) came with 2 bass drums and eventually he just started using one of them and the other one as a spare

[ascotsmaninusa]

@ADAMKTN

bullshit,post a pic then if you have proof,I'm an old fart who's seen nearly every UK zep show and can assure you he never ever played a show with double bass.

[ADAMKTN]

@ascotsmaninusa I never claimed that he played live. He apparently really liked to fuck around on the double in the studio. Search it on google. I have no reason to spout about something that isn't documented.

[drumsanddrumming]

@ascotsmaninusa I think I saw some pic when ge used two bass drums- think it was on the first Us tour with Vanilla Fudge.

[KurdtKobain09]

@ADAMKTN Lol why did jimmy hide it from him?

[DrummingBonham]

@ADAMKTN He didnt use it for a while? he used it twice and once was a demo for communication breakdown... It was two songs...

[Anakin1988]

ALWAYS!!!

[SteveBrownOfficial]

Where is this footage from?

[pressrolls]

PS....Ocheltree is a pathological liar. Dont believe a third of what he claims. He sold a bogus Amber kit to the Hard Rock cafe that was supposed to be Bonham's. Word is, he bragged about 'piecing the set together' out of random singles and ripping them off. If you want the truth listen to Henry Smith his earlier tech - seen in Zeps "how the west was won" dvd. Hes the guy tightening the cowbell (moving all over the place) during Moby Dick. Fuck Jeff Ocheltree.

[ThinkingApe3000]

Big Deal, Hard Rock Cafe is a bunch of corporate hacks out to make money selling bad food and watered-down drinks. If I had a Bonham set, I wouldn't give it to them. I'd sell it on EBAY!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Rossco9992]

can we be sure he ALWAYS used this ALWAYS?

[getarheroguru]

without bonham and others like keith moon, there would be no alex van halen

[theaggravator]

nor there wouldn't be any dead drummers from over doing the booze and dope.

[lagunaalbums]

AVH is the right drummer to accompany his brother's sound. I wouldn't really compare him to Bonham who is more known for his beats.

[pressrolls]

stratdem - you are insane. Why so queer for Alex? Hes gotten better with age but he is NO Bonham. And never will be. Alex is so mediocre its ridiculous.

[fugazipythons]

tuning correctly can be a bitch

[PIRTEKM3]

Superb!

[spatchycat]

so the side that he did not hit was tuned up huh.....so in theory it would deaden the drum and take out a lot of the resonance when sturck...intresting...don't studio rings have a simular effect?

[xHebrews1023x]

No.

[spatchycat]

what do you mean "no"

that is how the resonance would work....do you know anything about precussion and tuning at all? tuning is essential........hard to explain on here but....?? can; yousay more than no?

or are you another one of the arrogont british people on here?

[spatchycat]

oh weight you mean no about the studio rings don;t you?

[Connerthedrummer]

Ok, learn some basic sentence construction please.

[AstralPlane1951]

Did he use a rack tom? I thought he used a tom with a floor stand.

[ChuckPaulsen658]

both, depending on what drum set it was.

[reddrum56]

ludwigs were all made out of maple. but what gives it the great sound is the big sizes. 26 inch kick. thats pretty big. and it sounds perfect.

[Nonah1223]

i have a civil war bass drum replica 30" and i somtimes use tht as a bass now thts big

[ChuckPaulsen658]

man those sound fucking GREAT!!!! Is there anyway to get a sound like that or close to that with vistalites in VERY similar sizes and clear heads??? What about vistalites and coated heads??? Or is it only with big maple drums and all coated heads????

[bombilla42]

Why use a mallot when demostrating the batter and resonant head pitches? Just curious.

[a1b1c2c2]

i Think its becuase it gives a warmer sound and theres no stick noises then but i might wrong

[MarkTheDrummer27]

This is great. It's really hard to find times when you can actually hear the way his drums were tuned on the recordings, especially the snare drum, so I usually just tune by ear and it takes a LONG time. This will make things a lot easier. I just wish i could find one of those cowbells, I think they are pretty rare.

[zash008]

listening to this from my laptop speakers, the biggest floor tom had a much lower frequency sound than the kick drum.

[IXIBobOhIXI]

4:14

Thats how a bass drum should sound. BOOM, not Thwap.

[JacqueShredo]

You got that right man

it's easy to toss a blanket in the kick and pound away and be used to that sound. Once you tune the kick up and learn to play it opened up though it becomes so much more!

[BerkLeeDrm]

@IXIBobOhIXI yup I never did dig the sand bag thing and 6 sheets of mylar behind the beater.. although its good for certain stuff in the studio.

[TheKickassdrummer]

To this day and I have been playing for 30 years, I still love the Ludwig speed king pedal !!!

[TheKickassdrummer]

Well, that may work well on that kit...But are they maple,birch,oak..etc...? It all depends on the type of wood and how it is constructed(plies)

[maryjanesledzep]

is that his ACTUAL set?

[MFekz]

a ludwig cowbell made by paiste. thats a new one. i guess it makes sense though because i could be paiste alloy

[AzoreanPorkchop]

what if i tried this on a fusion sized stage custom?

[olsonan]

This is the greatest shit ever. Thanks drum tech guy.

[DXpac20]

R.I.P. John! After watching John's Moby Dick solo off of their one dvd, I have been more dedicated to drumming, just praying I get as good as he was. lol

[tperr63]

big shoes to fill. but god bless &good luck

[adzug]

i like the green sparkle

[scatterbrain92]

Brilliant set , Fuck , that Paiste 24" ride sounds so good ... I wish I could buy one of those . Long Live Bonham . THE BEST .

[rema100]

what a sound

[now5230]

i would kill to make my snare and toms sound like that. someone help me

[stupidplants]

get coated and/or 2 ply heads

[stupidplants]

you tune both heads the same

[pdrums777]

the dude says.. the resonant head (bottom) is tuned higher than the batter head (top)

[Hazith]

I always thought it was pronounced "Payst"...

[1rewd1]

noob

[bennyboon]

lul.

[burntoast]

Pwnt

[tonyskins19]

how big is his snare

[rudeass]

14 x 6.5"

[Luzzeppelin]

IMMIGRANT SONG ;D ooo thats amaziing love bonham(L)

[patricebrisebois19]

kit looks and sounds beautiful

[kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkklkkk]

tight on the beater side and medium tight on the bottom head?

[rf396]

Nope SLIGHTLY tighter on the bottom THAN the batter

[jollywood999]

Brass is metal, numbnuts ;p cool kit

[TheDrumChannel]

What a great video - I really wish he would have done a little solo or something on that set. Thank s for posting this one.

[Ludwag511]

I am about to order the Ludwig John Bonham Green sparkle reissue drum kit. Ocheltree mentions that the front bass head is a "medium weight" coated head. Thats all he says. What does he mean? Does anyone know what head that would be?

Thanks!

LUDWAG

[Phrase]

Probably a Remo Ambassador smooth white or the Ludwig equivalent - Medium weight (Remo ambassador or Evans g1) and smooth rather than coated so you could use black, white or clear but Bonzo allways use the white display heads which looked the best!

I think the new Ludwigs come with Black heads as standard so you will have to order the white head instead if you want your kit to look like this!

[Joah1991]

Does anyone know what size his cowbell is? Thanks.

[wero454]

i dont understand the part of the front of the bass drum. :S

[MvDiStasio]

That 18" floor tom sounds amazing

[psychwardsally]

this is super cool . thanks ! look out here comes da da da duum pazzzzzzz!!!!!ba da dum

[tittyslave]

I think Bonham actually did use a chrome over brass snare in the early days.

[shanman14]

does anybody know if the bottom snare drum heads was coated or not PLEASE??????????

[wero454]

there is no way it might be coated.

it is for the snare side.

[moesgard]

No way it's coated. It's a clear head. You cannot have a nice snare sound with a coated skin, because you need to have the thinnest and smoothest possible to have a precise and detailed response from the hits on the top side.

I tried long time ago to put a coated ambassador on the snare side: sounded like shit!

[shanman14]

thanks, but i have a coated diplomat over a coated emperor x and it sounds really good but i am gonna get a clear ambassador eventually.

[rickb731]

glad im not the only coconut out there , i tried the same thing, looking for a thicker retro sound...it sucked

[MegaDrumBudge3000]

dont use a coated head on the bottom of your snare. you dont really get a good sound of it like that. on the toms is fine.

[shanman14]

yea i just got a ambassador hazy so i'm good now, thanks!

[wero454]

"a ludwig cow bell made by paiste"...

maybe ludwig is the promoter of the product,

and paiste makes it.

[TicTac202]

who honesty cares if this guy met john bonham

[binkus200]

i do

[dfrench80]

me too

[rickb731]

we all do... if you dont... hit esc or shut up

[ringosteve21]

man i want a ching ring real bad.

anyone know the size of the snare drum?

[grimreepher]

probably 14x5 or 14x6.5

[hit64]

thas like a 13 or a 12

[grimreepher]

the snare man, no way he ever use 13, and thats totally not a 12,  supraphonics only came in 14x5 or 14x6.5 i believe

[Freakinabox1245]

Just wondering, how does he get that double bass pedal sound with just one pedal, lyk in the moby dick solo and in good times bad times. Im guessing that he's just that good! =]

[ryanke07]

There are a bunch of different techniques you can use like the slide technique or the heel-toe... I know there are alot of videos on youtube that go into the different techniques

Mike Johnston with Mikes Drum Lessons has a video on youtube where he goes in depth on how to get that sound.

[Freakinabox1245]

Thanks man, im just a begginer. Just about six monthes to a year of drumming now. And those videos help out too.

[tstorm81993]

heel-toe method

[KuatoLives]

God damnit, I want that kit, or at least the sizes

[GaryGee67]

Thank's for the tune up tip's that's helpfull.Cheer's G.

[GaryGee67]

Thank's for the tune up tip's that's helpfull.Cheer's G.

[GaryGee67]

Thank's for the tune up tip's that's helpfull.Cheer's G.

[GaryGee67]

Thank's for the tune up tip's that's helpfull.Cheer's G.

[drummasterkevin]

this kit is the most amazing kit ever made and sound wise and quality

[thehunjo]

The staff is annoying as hell too, always trying to get you to buy shit

[apujols2194]

how is a ludwig cow bell made by paiste?

[Iplaydrums2112]

Because Ludwig doesn't deal with cymbals or cowbells, it was made by Paiste under the Ludwig name and brand.

[rushistheawesomest]

made out of 2oo2 cymbals

[apujols2194]

that guy is being a slave at the end!

[skaterdeclan]

that low floor tom is amazing.

[BogotaBT]

where can you get a ching ring?

[apujols2194]

at a drum store

[BogotaBT]

I went to guitar center and the guy had no idea what I was talking about lol. Do you think they would have one at Sam Ash?

[AllisterCooper2008]

Who is this, Jeff Ocheltree? I remember Led Zeppelin played Italy once only. A riot broke out and the band were forced off the stage. Jimmy and John Paul were able to take their instruments along with them to a locker room where they hid, but John's drum set were left behind. Most likely they were pulverized by the crowd, who were fleeing from the police.

[PoonJammer69]

dang haha.. thats funny/ super sad that it was probably destroyed..

[AdioEl]

whats that thing on top of the hi - hat called again?

[KingCrimson12]

It's called a ching ring.

[AdioEl]

ok thanks

[Hyce777]

Is this video of a DVD or something? Others have posted it... If it is a DVD, I need it.

[expandyourmind2006]

its called "trust your ears"

[LukeDrum44]

those toms sound so nice!

[Champane97]

I've got this DVD and it's awesome!! (for drummers that is!) The only thing that needs to be said is the years between 1968-1975 (which is important!) John Bonham's original roadie had more insight into Bonhams set up. I once read a interview on Bonhams early drum tuning that is a bit different to what's on this clip, however not that far off I might add!! Here's something to ponder; Bonham would rarely change the snare head and his wood drums were always 4ply, not 6ply as some experts think!

[Hyce777]

Those years are close.

He had a maple kit in natural finish from 67-69, and this green sparkle came in 1970-1973.

[Champane97]

Got that right mate!! Ling live "KING BONZO"!!!

[Hyce777]

DAMN STRAIGHT!

[luigiplumberboy2]

The way to say Paiste is easy. It rhymes with "fiesty". Don't believe me? Check their website.

[artemramone]

I thing that it si paiste.I use cymbals Paiste serie 101 I like that

[Hyce777]

Paiste 101 bronze series? That's about as far from the 2002s you can get. Look for PST-5. Best value for the money.

[dethslayer]

I'm pretty sure thats not how you prenounce PAISTE??

[sooperkula]

ot ludwig...

[jamesgarvey12345]

paiste = piestee. rhymes with fiesty

[Hyce777]

Says it on the website. Rhymes with fiesty. There's your proof. It is DEFINATLY not paste- ey!

[jamesgarvey12345]

yeah that's what i just said

[AllisterCooper2008]

It's pronounced Pie-stee.

[generatrix999]

Brass is a 'metal' also. 402 same 'material' as Acrolite only chromed, aluminum alloy.

[agior78]

it's a pleasure...isn't it really cool?!

[midenginev8]

Thank you very much for posting this video, i play a vintage WMP ludwig kit, and just bought a 14x26 3ply ludwig bass in WMP to add to my kit, This is my favorite sound and i really aprietiate you helping me and other get the right sound.