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@firebird14420 Great comment! True, and there are certified organic hydroponic fertilizers to grow organic as well. Actually, hydroponics can grow organic produce easier and faster than in soil since the gardener has more control of what goes into the plants. I did organic peppers, Bush green beans and tomatoes outdoors in hydroponic growing systems. They were all delicious and it's was a fairly easy process and the sun is free! I plan on doing a video on that from last Summer fairly soon.
Dude this fuckin guy makes you fall asleep before you get to c the video this actually is a bad ass system if u dont crash before the end vid lol hahahahahahahaaa
what is the minimum amount of water you cna use per plant per day to keep optimum nutrient balance? In theory can you compensate by using a higher ec level to make up for a smaller resovoir. SO in theory a 20litre reservoir could support a dripper or aeroponic system for 30 plants but would using a very strong ec level compensate for the lower water levels.
"The amounts suggested in the nutrient calculator are the total nutrient to feed the plant for a whole week, not the amount to give them per feeding - If you want to give your plants nutrient solution more than once per week, divide the amount (total ppm) for the week by the number of feedings that you want to give them to calculate the ppm per feeding - Example: If the plants need 1200 ppm for the week, divide 1200 by 6 and mix the reservoir at 200 – 250 ppm." True or not?
@oknbjiuhvcgy I control the TDS dependent on the stage of growth. In hydroponics use full strength in the reservoir - I use; vegetative growth starts at around 400 ppm and increase to 1,000 - 1,500 ppm as plant grows, Switch to bloom at the first stage of flowering and keep the nutrient strength fairly high around 1,500 ppm. It is EXTREMELY important to change and flush the nutrient solution regularly (I do it generally once every 2 to 3weeks) to renew nutrient & remove excess mineral salts.
rwkleinman, my first week into flowering and the leafs have wilted due to the lack of oxygen in the root zone. I have angled the pots to prevent the presence of water, thinking air will be present for the roots coming from the tubing, but did not help. I would greatly appreciate if you reply to this message.
Matt Geschke from STG recommends (as seen in an STG youtube video) placing PVC pipe spacers between the two containers to elevate the grow container about 1/2 inch higher and place an airstone in the space as well. Seems like a good idea but I have grown three crops of tomatoes and one of peppers and have had very few problems. You can also check if you are feeding often enough, wilting will occur if not enough water gets to the plant and also if the temperature is too high.
Your reservoir may be too warm. When water gets warm it loses it's ability to effectively hold oxygen. Try cooling your reservoir with a chiller, to about 60 degrees. This is a temperature in which the water will hold exponentially more water, than a reservoir at 75 degrees or more. Also, an air pump in your reservoir is a great idea.
you can also design aeroponic bucket systems that work simlarly to this system. Trust me those clay pebbles are a real hassle and are very dirty no matter how much you rinse them and make so much noise. Aeroponics requires less medium and can even be done with using no growing media at all. You can make special plastic clamps for the stems. Checkout thin air growing systems on google. They have the best system i've seen
I've been using the system for one week and I have 1 major problem affecting the plants. The water in the 55 gallon reservoir has a pH of 5.8. During the flood cycle the water in the controller module has again pH 5.8. During the drain cycle when the water from the buckets return to the controller module, to go back in the 55 gallon reservoir, the pH is 6.2 to 6.3. I can adjust the pH in the reservoir without a problem, but then the PPM will rise when you add more pH up or down. What can I do?
How many pots may I use under a 1000 Watt lighting? Discount Hydroponics told me 9 pots, and Hydro farm.com told me 6 pots under a 1000 so... I would rather hear your comments, thanks!
"Also, ppm is used as a total amount. If it suggests 1500 ppm is 1500 ppm all the time - not divisible by day " When growing in soil they said If you use 1500 ppm twice that week then that will equal to 3000ppm, but you are saying if suggested 1500 ppm then 1500 ppm all the time for that week. Are the laws different when growing is soil & ebb-grow system? I don't know if my description is clear as to what I'm trying to explain, any questions let me know. Please reply, thanks.
If you have 1500 ppm in your nutrient tank and flood your plants, they will be getting 1500 ppm. You drain the plants, there is still 1500 ppm in the tank and when you flood again you are putting 1500 ppm to the plants again. Granted, there will be an increase of mineral salts in the growth medium with continued flooding but it doesn't nearly double each time. You remove this build-up by changing the solution and rinsing the medium occasionally.
In soil it is somewhat cumulative, as they say, but keep in mind that the fertilizer is slowly leached out as you water. That is why you have to add new fertilizer every so often (in soil) to provide adequate nutrition constantly to get the most from the plants. That is why plants can grow faster and better with hydroponics; they are provided the nutrition they need every time they are watered and the nutrient solution and other parameters are controlled by the grower.
This set-up has two 600 Watt lights starting with metal halide for the initial growing stage then switching to high pressure sodium when blossoms appear. Seemed to work pretty well.
How do I know how many PPM to add to the reservoir in order not to go over the limit? If the plants need 1500 PPM for 'this' week should I divide 1500 PPM by 7days which = 214 PPM per day? How many times a day will the flood cycle occur during the day? If the flood cycle occurs two times a day then this means the plant will receive 214 PPM X 2 = 428PPM!!! Please reply
@oknbjiuhvcgy No I'm not kidding. I don't have any experience with hydro. systems, my experience is growing in potting soil, and I would like for you to answer my questions before i order this system from my hydro store. So please tell me how many PPM should be in the reservoir if I need, for example, 1500 PPM for week 4.... the plants will need a different PPM level every new week. Please reply, thanks.
@oknbjiuhvcgy Sorry man, TDS is the measure of mineral salts in the solution. I generally start plants - say seeding size, at around 400 ppm grow then increase slowly as the plants get bigger. When the plants start blossoming I usually am at around 1100 to 1500 ppm then, in case of blossoming plants, I switch to bloom at the same strength. If you don't want the plants to bloom, say like basil and some other herbs, I usually keep the ppm around 1000 and use grow fertilizer only.
Also, ppm is used as a total amount. If it suggests 1500 ppm is is 1500 ppm all the time - not divisible by day, etc. Hope that helped and sorry again for my arrogant attitude.
@oknbjiuhvcgy first THING TO DO IS CHECK YOUR TAP WATER. your tap will have a certain #tds before you add any nutes, check the tap water (or what ever you are using). Actual TDS readings should be higher than what you want available to the plants.get a good meter, ph tds/conductivity temperature would be GOOD$ $100-$150 .or for a ball park figure you could use test strips for ph and total alkalinity/ tds find these in "pool maintNC. supplies.WITH SOIL, YOU CAN NOT RUN AS HIGH TDS# WILL BURN
I tried the white cotton looking stuff on my last grow, what a mistake!!! It shrank down, setting the plants far too deep, piss poor crop. I'll keep to the rocks from now on. With rocks gitting 3 oz per plant.
Course (granular) coco may work ok but grow rock substances like clay aggregate works more efficiently because it allows better (more) aeration. The more air (oxygen) the roots receive the better.
"clay aggregate works more efficiently because it allows better (more) aeration"
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You would be referring to cation exchange capacity (CEC), and you are incorrect. Neither medium, Hydroton or STG provide "better (more) aeration", but the clear display model EZ-Cloner in the video shows you are peddling products.
wow a whole insert that replaces Hyroton. Impressive. I will have to try out. I guess if you run some sticks or wire on inside of insert you can stiffen up the unit. Really cool video, TY...
You didn't have issues with plant weight in the STG inserts?
And I see you use a Nutradip Trimeter like I do, how did you find a probe with a long enough lead to comfortably sit in the reservoir... mine only has a three foot cord, and I was wondering how I would use it with an EBB Gro without toping it up massively all the time.
The elbow on top of the reservoir for the fill (flood) pump is pre-drilled with a small hole which should be checked occasionally to make sure it isn't clogged..
One danger NOT pointed ouit... The pump connector coming from the res. pump to the controller MUST have a small hole on the lower side of the elbow to eliminate siphoning.
Otherwise it WILL flood and overflow the controller bucket, and the buckets.
why not just use a timer to set off pump? wouldn't that have the same effect as cutting switches? I mean also a lot cheaper than this expensive system atleast
There are two pumps in this system. One pump in in the nutrient reservoir (fill or flood pump) and the other pump (drain pump) is in the level control tank (controller module). The control module, with the drain pump and float switches, is necessary to set and control how high the level gets in the grow pots. Without this module the grow pots would over flow and the nutrient reservoir would eventually become empty (and the floor extremely wet!). Thanks for commenting!
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ChanneledKnowledge 2 weeks ago
@jootai bc you cab grow your own instead of the bs in stores all organic tasty you know what's in it
firebird14420 1 month ago
@firebird14420 Great comment! True, and there are certified organic hydroponic fertilizers to grow organic as well. Actually, hydroponics can grow organic produce easier and faster than in soil since the gardener has more control of what goes into the plants. I did organic peppers, Bush green beans and tomatoes outdoors in hydroponic growing systems. They were all delicious and it's was a fairly easy process and the sun is free! I plan on doing a video on that from last Summer fairly soon.
rwkleinman 1 month ago
Dude this fuckin guy makes you fall asleep before you get to c the video this actually is a bad ass system if u dont crash before the end vid lol hahahahahahahaaa
BobbyDee248 4 weeks ago
I like the idea. I am getting a grant to grow stuff for a food kitchen and the money I don't use.. Well we will leave it at that.
milroy56263 3 months ago
why would anyone wanna grow TOMATO's? they sell em at the store? i mean wtf
jootai 5 months ago 2
what is the minimum amount of water you cna use per plant per day to keep optimum nutrient balance? In theory can you compensate by using a higher ec level to make up for a smaller resovoir. SO in theory a 20litre reservoir could support a dripper or aeroponic system for 30 plants but would using a very strong ec level compensate for the lower water levels.
210482fmj 6 months ago
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210482fmj 6 months ago
where is the weed?
rajeeb34 7 months ago
ahahaha those arnt even marijuana plants
canadiancosnnoisseur 9 months ago 2
@canadiancosnnoisseur
Very true!
rwkleinman 9 months ago 5
"The amounts suggested in the nutrient calculator are the total nutrient to feed the plant for a whole week, not the amount to give them per feeding - If you want to give your plants nutrient solution more than once per week, divide the amount (total ppm) for the week by the number of feedings that you want to give them to calculate the ppm per feeding - Example: If the plants need 1200 ppm for the week, divide 1200 by 6 and mix the reservoir at 200 – 250 ppm." True or not?
oknbjiuhvcgy 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy I control the TDS dependent on the stage of growth. In hydroponics use full strength in the reservoir - I use; vegetative growth starts at around 400 ppm and increase to 1,000 - 1,500 ppm as plant grows, Switch to bloom at the first stage of flowering and keep the nutrient strength fairly high around 1,500 ppm. It is EXTREMELY important to change and flush the nutrient solution regularly (I do it generally once every 2 to 3weeks) to renew nutrient & remove excess mineral salts.
rwkleinman 9 months ago
rwkleinman, my first week into flowering and the leafs have wilted due to the lack of oxygen in the root zone. I have angled the pots to prevent the presence of water, thinking air will be present for the roots coming from the tubing, but did not help. I would greatly appreciate if you reply to this message.
oknbjiuhvcgy 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy
Matt Geschke from STG recommends (as seen in an STG youtube video) placing PVC pipe spacers between the two containers to elevate the grow container about 1/2 inch higher and place an airstone in the space as well. Seems like a good idea but I have grown three crops of tomatoes and one of peppers and have had very few problems. You can also check if you are feeding often enough, wilting will occur if not enough water gets to the plant and also if the temperature is too high.
rwkleinman 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy just stick an air pump/ air stone tubing in your system, thats what I did and I get explosive growth. Hope this helps.
justinwdesautels 1 year ago
@justinwdesautels dude if you still around love to chat...ken
MrCandycok 7 months ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy
Your reservoir may be too warm. When water gets warm it loses it's ability to effectively hold oxygen. Try cooling your reservoir with a chiller, to about 60 degrees. This is a temperature in which the water will hold exponentially more water, than a reservoir at 75 degrees or more. Also, an air pump in your reservoir is a great idea.
xzackly420 9 months ago
you can also design aeroponic bucket systems that work simlarly to this system. Trust me those clay pebbles are a real hassle and are very dirty no matter how much you rinse them and make so much noise. Aeroponics requires less medium and can even be done with using no growing media at all. You can make special plastic clamps for the stems. Checkout thin air growing systems on google. They have the best system i've seen
1982FMJ 1 year ago
I've been using the system for one week and I have 1 major problem affecting the plants. The water in the 55 gallon reservoir has a pH of 5.8. During the flood cycle the water in the controller module has again pH 5.8. During the drain cycle when the water from the buckets return to the controller module, to go back in the 55 gallon reservoir, the pH is 6.2 to 6.3. I can adjust the pH in the reservoir without a problem, but then the PPM will rise when you add more pH up or down. What can I do?
oknbjiuhvcgy 1 year ago
1. Will it be better to use Reverse Osmosis water with Ebb & Gro?
2. Some recommend to change the water every week and others every two weeks. Is it better to change the water every week? If yes please explain.
ohmysoles 1 year ago
How many gallon of water do I have to fill in the reservoir when I use 18 pots?
ohmysoles 1 year ago
how do you make a diy ebb and flow bucket system?...it looks complicated
thegame52291 1 year ago
How many pots may I use under a 1000 Watt lighting? Discount Hydroponics told me 9 pots, and Hydro farm.com told me 6 pots under a 1000 so... I would rather hear your comments, thanks!
ohmysoles 1 year ago
"Also, ppm is used as a total amount. If it suggests 1500 ppm is 1500 ppm all the time - not divisible by day " When growing in soil they said If you use 1500 ppm twice that week then that will equal to 3000ppm, but you are saying if suggested 1500 ppm then 1500 ppm all the time for that week. Are the laws different when growing is soil & ebb-grow system? I don't know if my description is clear as to what I'm trying to explain, any questions let me know. Please reply, thanks.
oknbjiuhvcgy 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy
If you have 1500 ppm in your nutrient tank and flood your plants, they will be getting 1500 ppm. You drain the plants, there is still 1500 ppm in the tank and when you flood again you are putting 1500 ppm to the plants again. Granted, there will be an increase of mineral salts in the growth medium with continued flooding but it doesn't nearly double each time. You remove this build-up by changing the solution and rinsing the medium occasionally.
rwkleinman 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy
In soil it is somewhat cumulative, as they say, but keep in mind that the fertilizer is slowly leached out as you water. That is why you have to add new fertilizer every so often (in soil) to provide adequate nutrition constantly to get the most from the plants. That is why plants can grow faster and better with hydroponics; they are provided the nutrition they need every time they are watered and the nutrient solution and other parameters are controlled by the grower.
rwkleinman 1 year ago
@rwkleinman - not to mention with hydroponics, the waters changed weekly to suit what the plants need ppm wise. Right?
zcarporn 1 year ago
How many watts of electricity do these systems take? I've heard it's equal to using a 1000watt HPS light; please reply, thanks.
oknbjiuhvcgy 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy
This set-up has two 600 Watt lights starting with metal halide for the initial growing stage then switching to high pressure sodium when blossoms appear. Seemed to work pretty well.
rwkleinman 1 year ago
How do I know how many PPM to add to the reservoir in order not to go over the limit? If the plants need 1500 PPM for 'this' week should I divide 1500 PPM by 7days which = 214 PPM per day? How many times a day will the flood cycle occur during the day? If the flood cycle occurs two times a day then this means the plant will receive 214 PPM X 2 = 428PPM!!! Please reply
oknbjiuhvcgy 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy
First off you have to tell me you are not kidding!
rwkleinman 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy No I'm not kidding. I don't have any experience with hydro. systems, my experience is growing in potting soil, and I would like for you to answer my questions before i order this system from my hydro store. So please tell me how many PPM should be in the reservoir if I need, for example, 1500 PPM for week 4.... the plants will need a different PPM level every new week. Please reply, thanks.
oknbjiuhvcgy 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy Sorry man, TDS is the measure of mineral salts in the solution. I generally start plants - say seeding size, at around 400 ppm grow then increase slowly as the plants get bigger. When the plants start blossoming I usually am at around 1100 to 1500 ppm then, in case of blossoming plants, I switch to bloom at the same strength. If you don't want the plants to bloom, say like basil and some other herbs, I usually keep the ppm around 1000 and use grow fertilizer only.
rwkleinman 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy
Also, ppm is used as a total amount. If it suggests 1500 ppm is is 1500 ppm all the time - not divisible by day, etc. Hope that helped and sorry again for my arrogant attitude.
rwkleinman 1 year ago
@oknbjiuhvcgy first THING TO DO IS CHECK YOUR TAP WATER. your tap will have a certain #tds before you add any nutes, check the tap water (or what ever you are using). Actual TDS readings should be higher than what you want available to the plants.get a good meter, ph tds/conductivity temperature would be GOOD$ $100-$150 .or for a ball park figure you could use test strips for ph and total alkalinity/ tds find these in "pool maintNC. supplies.WITH SOIL, YOU CAN NOT RUN AS HIGH TDS# WILL BURN
01sircharles 8 months ago
The best weed in the world grows outdoors in organic soil nuff said
constipatedkangaroo 1 year ago
I tried the white cotton looking stuff on my last grow, what a mistake!!! It shrank down, setting the plants far too deep, piss poor crop. I'll keep to the rocks from now on. With rocks gitting 3 oz per plant.
stevenhaudenschild 1 year ago
Course (granular) coco may work ok but grow rock substances like clay aggregate works more efficiently because it allows better (more) aeration. The more air (oxygen) the roots receive the better.
rwkleinman 1 year ago
@rwkleinman
"clay aggregate works more efficiently because it allows better (more) aeration"
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You would be referring to cation exchange capacity (CEC), and you are incorrect. Neither medium, Hydroton or STG provide "better (more) aeration", but the clear display model EZ-Cloner in the video shows you are peddling products.
mintvagoo 1 year ago
I veg my plants for 2 months in coco pots, is coco a nono for ebb and flow?
xxCrazySmooth 1 year ago
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knoxville504 1 year ago
What I would like to know is why the controler has 2 float switches for the drain pump.
rbmooreinc 1 year ago
Don't use soil - it will leach away. Use grow rocks, Stg medium or rockwool cubes.
rwkleinman 2 years ago
hey does this system still work good with soil, or does it only have to be grow rocks? ?
BigBrownKing 2 years ago
wow a whole insert that replaces Hyroton. Impressive. I will have to try out. I guess if you run some sticks or wire on inside of insert you can stiffen up the unit. Really cool video, TY...
silverpizza100 2 years ago
You didn't have issues with plant weight in the STG inserts?
And I see you use a Nutradip Trimeter like I do, how did you find a probe with a long enough lead to comfortably sit in the reservoir... mine only has a three foot cord, and I was wondering how I would use it with an EBB Gro without toping it up massively all the time.
lioninetyrant 2 years ago
It doesn't come with siphon holes punched?
That's good to know.
lioninetyrant 2 years ago
Right you are!
The elbow on top of the reservoir for the fill (flood) pump is pre-drilled with a small hole which should be checked occasionally to make sure it isn't clogged..
rwkleinman 2 years ago
One danger NOT pointed ouit... The pump connector coming from the res. pump to the controller MUST have a small hole on the lower side of the elbow to eliminate siphoning.
Otherwise it WILL flood and overflow the controller bucket, and the buckets.
jw13303 2 years ago
why not just use a timer to set off pump? wouldn't that have the same effect as cutting switches? I mean also a lot cheaper than this expensive system atleast
GreenValleyGirlBC 1 year ago
@GreenValleyGirlBC
There are two pumps in this system. One pump in in the nutrient reservoir (fill or flood pump) and the other pump (drain pump) is in the level control tank (controller module). The control module, with the drain pump and float switches, is necessary to set and control how high the level gets in the grow pots. Without this module the grow pots would over flow and the nutrient reservoir would eventually become empty (and the floor extremely wet!). Thanks for commenting!
rwkleinman 1 year ago