I came for the ice cream damn title miss leading. Little girl talking i only heard ba ba ba ba where my ice cream. Now i going to like your video just to be nice, but where is it kiddo nice thought read abortion personal issue. LOL share it with your class mate or write a letter to your political idol. Hey, idk but if someone try to kill my child smack your hand. If someone esle i have enough problem. Thank you miss and i respect your view even if i did't watch it.
Sorry, Lia, but abortions and murder are far more serious then ice cream. And while I am completely pro life I don't think a little girl is ready to take on an issue like this.
@mochamegan123 i respect your opinion, i am a pro life just like u, i do appreciate and admire lia for what she is doing, i think she has all the facts to says what she is saying, she is teaching a lesson to many adults that have forgotten that we are the ones who make a difference, we should not be waiting for somebody else to do it for us, it should motivate us adults to take a stand on this issue & do a video like she is doing or make a difference someway somehow, god bless you
@funkeiromiami Thank you for not being a jerk. I almost hate posting comments on youtube because of all the negative feedback I get (in mean ways.) but you said your disagreement in a kind and understanding way and instead of getting annoyed and suddenly jumping to argue I actually read what you said and saw your point.
@TheLolliepop20 You just made yourself sound extremely uneducated Abortion is the killing of an unborn baby Abortions usually occur for a couple reasons, mostly concerning money. Either the parents dont want another child (which i feel is infringing on morals) or because the parents of the child cannot support it( in which case is reasonable). Someone walking into a fucking house unloading a clip into someone, is immoral they both are still taking lives but one is correct morally in some cases
Suppose that we were grossly overpopulated. Suppose that unwanted pregnancies were becoming as common as wanted ones. Suppose that nobody - not teenagers, not young couples, nobody - took the idea of contraception seriously. What then? Should we still be letting in every new fetus that comes our way with open arms? No matter how much natural resources and planet space we're using up? What then? (This is highly hypothetical, but still.)
OMG I realize you are like 8 and you obviously aren't too bright, however if you're going to spew your mindless bullshit over the internet you can take criticism. Nevertheless, in response to your dumb analogy (killing a grown women to killing a fetus). Let me break something down for you. FETUS NO ORGANISM. FETUS LIKE ORGAN. FETUS NO RESPOND TO STIMULI. GROWN WOMEN IS ORGANISM. SHE NO ORGAN. SHE RESPOND TO STIMULI. Also, if I use GermX am I a mass murderer? I'm essentially massacring bacteria.
@mochamegan123 no they aren't. Democrats are more liberal and republicans are more conservative, but just because I'm very liberal doesn't mean I'm a democrat. Democrat/Republican are just party classifications that have connotations of liberal and conservative.
And it definitely has a heartbeat. I cried and I knew I couldnt kill this little precious thing that grows everyday inside the womb. I'm glad she is raising awareness, because society has really closed their ears and shut their eyes to tragedies like this disgusting act.
And that is the issue, a woman who has chosen to abort, terminate and kill her child has desensitized herself from it, pushed aside any feeling for it and has treated it as some trash you can just throw away. When I found out I was pregnant I immediately looked at a visual of the little embryo, and did you know, at just 5 weeks, which by the way is usually when a woman finds out she is carrying, the little tiny bud inside you already has fingernails and little hairs on it's developing body?
So, she doesn't know the intimacies of sexual intercourse, she doesn't need to to see millions upon millions of children are being takin from this world because a mother can't put aside her selfishness and take responsibility. Once you are pregnant, you are a mother. Not when the baby is delivered but the moment it is conceived. I'd hate to think your mother contemplated aborting you once she found out you were in her womb..I'm sure she loves you more than anything.
She's twelve years old and she is a heck of a lot more mature than you are seeing as you like calling a little girl names and hating on her beliefs. Also, I seriously doubt she's been 'brainwashed', you can easily see she is passionate about this subject and she is going to take a stand whether anyone likes it or not. I think she is a very beautiful and mature girl inside and out, and Id be a proud mother of this child for not being afraid to speak on something so controversial.
GOD DAMN THIS BITCH IS EVERYWHERE WHY DONT YOU MAKE YOUR OWN CHOICES not doing this cause your parents have brainwashed you BEFOR TELL OTHERS HOW TO MAKE THERES
She doesnt even know what is a dick and she is talkin bout abortion ! She is just repeting what some secret people told them to say. Thats ridiculous. In 10 years, a 5 years old girl is going to tell you why its bad to ass fuck your wife !
you have spent a lot of time preaching when you have not obtained your own wisdom. I feel like these beliefs are not what you have developed but what your parents have pushed onto you. When I was your age, I was going on hour long bike rides around my quiet town with my best friends, and playing baseball in my front yard while my sister practiced cheer leading with her friends. Go enjoy yourself and shame on your parents for forcing their beliefs on you.
You're incredibly young, so I just have to say this: Nothing is black and white. Nothing is either this or that. By taking away choice, you ARE robbing someone else of their rights. People SHOULD be free to choose what happens to their bodies.
The fact that you would make a video as flippant as this on such a serious topic only PROVES that you lack the maturity to even comprehend- much less philosophize on- a subject as weighty as this.
When you've been raped and end up pregnant, you will understand. When you have to work to support yourself you will understand. When you are faced with a pregnancy but do not even make enough money to feed Yourself, you will understand.
For now, you are just a dumb kid, and you do NOT understand..
@MissClavelle The end result to this battle is the same. It is our choice, and always will be. Pro-Life has lost the battle to the greater good and you need to accept that and fade into obscurity. I would also advise taking that insufferable, recovered-abortion, Lia with you. Any child who becomes brainwashed proves weak willed and ill-suited to contributing to our world. Now, it is far better to remain silent and thought to be a fool, than to continue to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
@MissClavelle Seriously, a person is not "mature" because they agree with your particular opinion and "immature" because they don't.. (If so, you are calling the United States Supreme Court "immature.") you don't agree, you need to grow up.... Or at least start to use the dictionary so you can understand what these words mean.
@makeroftoys She is "mature" because she knows it is wrong to kill babies. Did you know babies are killed up to 9 months? So right before that child is born is could be aborted. So to you its not an actual newborn because its in the womb and not technically in the world? Well what about the astronauts? Are they not human because they are not on earth?
@MissClavelle First, I did not disparage Lia's maturity by saying she was "just a kid." To the contrary, she is obviously mature for her age. I was merely saying that (speaking as an adult) I will not attack a child. I think everyone understood that except for you.
Second, the majority of voters in United States are pro-choice: well over 100 million people. So, I don't know if your comment that Lia is "more mature than these people put together" is meaningless or asinine. You choose.
@makeroftoys She is more mature BECAUSE she understands it is not right to murder a child because of the mother's choice of having unprotected sex. If the mother was raped, she could put it up for adoption. You people disgust me. Do you even know what happens during abortion? Their legs get ripped off their sculls get crushed etc. And just because the fetus is not done developing doesnt mean its not human. Kids arent done developing until they are 16. Does that mean they are not human, either?
you are describing a partial-birth abortion, a very rare procedure that most pro-choice people find disgusting, including me. Partial-birth abortions are horrible, and I think they should be outlawed.
These issues are far more complex than I am willing to pursue with you. I'm sorry, but I find the analogy to astronauts so illogical I don't think conversation would be fruitful. I hope you find peace.
@MissClavelle it might be helpful for you to do some research from a neutral source like US government data because your information is obviously from extremely biased sources.
Did you know that over 40% of US women aged 40 to 50 have had an abortion? 40% is a huge percentage.
You certainly know some of these women. They are not bad people.
@makeroftoys I have never met someone in real life who is pro-abortion and nor do i want to because just be talking to you I can tell they are sick, nasty, rude people. And a 5 year old girl does not have 1. breasts yet 2. hit puberty 3. gotten a period. Obviously she is not completely developed. Does this mean she is not a human either?
@makeroftoys Well that one 5 year old girl in the 1800s did have breasts and hit puberty and had periods and she did get pregnant from rape but she had her kid, but anyways that's the only case that I've heard of of a 5 year old girl (or younger or slightly older) who had these
@MissClavelle you appear to have a conversation with yourself. I have no idea what you're talking about with regard to five-year-old girls and their development. I strongly suggest you find something else to do because you're not helping your case here.
As I said, there is no such thing as a person who is "pro-abortion". Nobody likes abortion. Some people, including those on the United States Supreme Court, believe it is the lesser evil in the complex real world in which many of us live. Bye.
@MissClavelle Now THAT is funny. I was pointing out you have intellectual capacity and maturity of a young child... and you decided it was sexual?!?! Creepy.
@MissClavelle As for your question:"Why are all the pro-abortioners here if they like abortion? "
There is no such thing as a "pro-abortionist". Nobody LIKES abortions, just as nobody LIKES open heart surgery.... but sometimes people choose to do both anyway. The fact is when abortion was illegal many woman ended up killing themselves (and the baby-to-be) trying to have have an abortion. The real world can be sad in many different ways.
An undeveloped baby in the womb has many less neurons with which to transport feelings than say, an adult cow. So how come life isn't precious when it's dinner time, but it is when some stray sperm waltz on down to egg town?
Lets say I had animistic beliefs. I believe even inanimate objects have souls. You are HARMING that chocolate icecream by eating it. Give it it's rights!
And the analogy is saying some choices are small...some are HUGE! I don't care what the situation,abortion kills a child,messes up a woman psychologically and physically,and don't say I don't know what I'm talking about I've met dozens of people who have been through it...They are damaged...Do not ever think that there is no other way out! You are a mother...act like one and do whats best for the child
Girls SHOULD be educated on topics such as sex,pregnancy,etc...So this girl knows a lot about abortion and believes its wrong,so what! She is standing up for what she believes in! That is something we all can learn from.My opinion...Abortion=killing...Killing=WRONG....Enough said...
Abortion makes no sense, a fetus isjust a patch of cells that has the potential to turn into a human, you know what else has potential. spawm cells, eggs? are we going to save all of them to? it is the same concept.
This kid is TWELVE. No twelve year old that I know gives a squirrel's shit about the abortion "issue". Shame on this girl's horrible misogynistic parents for using their daughter as a puppet in their idealogical war. Scum. ABORTION IS LEGAL. I don't know how many times us sane folks have to repeat it before it gets through the thick skulls of these menaces to society and progress. Get over it. You "pro-lifers" lost, now go home and shut up.
To reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies, which reduces the number of abortions, I support Planned Parenthood and their efforts to help make effective and affordable birth control available to all women who need it.
What do you anti-Choice people do to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies?
fetuses cannot properly respond to pain until after 6 months. i'm pro-choice but after 4-5 months, it's too fucking late, but still, stupid bitches have to have late term abortions.
@PhilSchlenkerHockey A beating heart is not what matters. What matters is weather or not the fetus is a "person". Is the fetus Conscious? Can the fetus suffer and to what extent? Can the fetus grasp the concept of mortality ? The beating heart argument is a surreptitious appeal to emotion.
"most girls would just go find another bf" LOL, what fucking planet do you live on?
"i don't take someone else's choice away" you obviously don't know what your doing in these video's then
"i'm very pro-choice" lol, those examples you gave, that has nothing to do with being pro-choice
you keep going off about "rights rights rights" but forcing a woman to give birth to something she doesn't want to, it going against her rights, a fetus is nothing more then a parasite feeding off its host
@PhilSchlenkerHockey If the discussion is whether or not a fertilized egg is human,and your logic goes as deep as saying I must be wrong because I make analogies to things that are not human.... I am wasting my time. Just be aware your entire argument is based on the assumption that you're correct: Completely circular.
The idea that everything in the world is not itself until its parts are assembled... EXCEPT FOR HUMANS is just wishful thinking. Good luck with that.
@PhilSchlenkerHockey as I said, the middle ground is much more complicated. If you still think that a fertilized egg is already a person, there is no point to having the more complicated conversation. I have given clear examples why this position simply doesn't make sense. You have not given a single reason, other than your own conclusion, to support your position. If you can't defend your position.... Maybe you should reevaluate it.
@PhilSchlenkerHockey you need to take a class in logical thinking. you are starting from the conclusion. You call it n "child." But what to call it IS the discussion. basically, you are never thinking if you start at the end. I have already made my point over and over again. It is very simple. The building blocks are not the same as the end result. if you think they're the same thing... then next time STOP making dinner before you start and eat it.... Because it's already dinner.
@PhilSchlenkerHockey And if for some reason you need a living example, when an Orange Blossom is germinated by a bee, it is not suddenly an "orange tree". it's a germinated orange blossom. That's it. you need to consider why logic stops working because the word "human" fills in the blank.
@PhilSchlenkerHockey If you want to be taken seriously you can't dismiss logical thought without any basis. Milk sugar and chocolate are not "ice cream". Car parts sitting in a pile is not a "car". A pail of sand and a gallon of petroleum are not a "pair of glasses". A [fill in the blank] is not a [fill in the blank] until it is baked, assembled, manufactured or grown. I have already said I agree with the extreme case. The problem obviously lies in the middle. Have other things to do. bye.
@PhilSchlenkerHockey To show the complexity of the issue for me, I AGREE with you. Late-term abortions are murder and should be illegal. to my mind, the complexity is that the fetus transitions from being a cluster of cells that bears NO resemblance to a human being whatsoever.(no brain, no nervous system. Not even a single nerve)... to a child that is simply not born yet. Stopping a few cells (ro my mind) weighs in favor of trhe woman's rights. Killing an unborn. child...disgusts me. Complex.
Please reread what I wrote. I said," A blastula is not a human, although it may be one day..." meaning my comment was completely consistent with biogenesis. Are two cells a human being at conception? If you think that a collection of car parts, that have not yet been assembled, is a "car" then I suppose the answer is yes.
lastly, as for rarity, again the world is more complex than black-and-white.
Heart surgery, for example, is sometimes needed, but it is the very last resort. The desire is to perform heart surgery "rarely" because there are more desirable approaches. No one WANTS to do heart surgery. Just as no one WANTS to do an abortion. Both fall in the category of last-resort options, to be performed as rarely as possible.
Lia, you are just a kid, and we have no way of knowing if you write your videos, so it is hard to craft an appropriate response. Suffice to say that these issues are more complex than ice cream or car choice. A blastula is not a human, although it may be one day... The same as milk, sugar and chocolate is not yet ice cream.
the complexity lies in the transition from not a human... to human. And in the right of government to control a person's internal organs. Try to think of it that way.
@makeroftoys im not trying to bud in or make u angry in anyway, but maybe by using those examples she is probly trying to make younger teens understand, like for me im 12 years old and im learning more and more about this subject by watching her videos
@makeroftoys Ironic that you criticise her as being too simplistic, and yet arbitrarily label a genetically distinct blastocyst as non-human and say that the only key agent affected is the mother and her "internal organs". This is the definition of hypocrasy.
@makeroftoys A persons a person no matter how small. You are killing a human being they have forty six chromosomes, metabolism, DNA etc. Abortion is wrong and that is one of the many reasons I'm pro-life.
@edawg792 No,but killing a baby is my definition.There is ALWAYS Adoption,and to kill a pure heart someone who hasn't done a wrong thing is wrong.If your in a situation like that can't it wait so you don't kill the baby?
@icewomen881 There is NOT always adoption. Also, giving away a baby isn't easy. Even if it was an unplanned pregnancy, you will have a hard time due to natural motherly instinct. If you do manage to give it up, you will know you have a child somewhere out there in the world. It is likely they will come look for their biological parents. There will always be that loose end, and it can be terribly hard to live with.
@edawg792 wait..... motherly instinct? this person might abort the baby i guess she might care for it,but not entirely since she was thinking of aborting it.Which is killing it because the baby isn't getting life and i understand how hard it is to get an adoption or give the baby up, but its for the baby whats BEST for the baby,and thats life... with someone who could take care of it:) And oh yah how is there not always adoption adoption is always an option lol:)
2:57 "I believe that women should make choices like [...] WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD HAVE KIDS [...] so when it comes to abortion[...]"
A little bit contradictory much? If a woman does not want a child and decides to have an abortion, that's her prerogative. No matter the reason, or the circumstance. It is that individual's choice, it's no one else's business.
Lia seems to be missing out the fact a huge amount of abortions aren't because of "personal preferance". Some are, but then some are due to health reasons, or money or another unfortunate circumstance.
I'm not saying I think abortion isright because I believe we are all Gods children. However if a person I knew HAD an abortion, I would support them and help them through what is obviously a difficult choice, I mean comparing it to choosing ice cream is totally wrong. Its not like that at all.
Abortion is legal. Get over it. You don't like it, but it's legal. I don't like smoking but that's legal too, so while it's my choice not to smoke I can't stop anyone else doing it. Stop trying to shame other people into making the choice you think is right.
@SweetAsMapleSyrup do you have kids? If not, I personally hope you dont, cause you might kill that child, and if you do, what would you tell your daughter if she gets pregnant at a young age? tell her to abort the child or life is ruined. well the girl's life that she knows it ends when she delivers the baby, but a new life starts. and if she still dont want it, there is females out that like myself who cant have anymore kids or non at all
@Princesslayea Nowhere above did I say that I would ever get an abortion. Personally, I wouldn't want to. But I am pro-choice, because I would never presume to try and take other people's choices away from them. As abortion is legal it is absolutely none of my, or anybody's, business whether other people have one or not. Can't you see what I mean? People make choices sometimes that we don't agree with, but if it's within their rights to do it, it's nothing to do with us.
@SweetAsMapleSyrup If we all had the same mentality as you did when it came to things we believed in we would all be ignorant..who knows if you took a stand with the many others who were against things such as smoking that might slowly be in the process of becoming illegal..and why shut out our morals when morals are what you base your life choices on? If we stand for something let us stand for it..we're not just going to stand by.."Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."
You can believe that abortion is wrong and at the same time believe that the government should not take away a woman's right to choose. These two beliefs are not mutually exclusive.
Here in Ireland today the good guys finally scored a point in the war against religion esp. roman catholicism. Our priminister informed the pope that the law of the land supercedes cannon law i.e. the clergy will be prosecuted if they attempt to hide information about priests sexually abusing minors. The church has ruled with an iron fist here for years - it is truly a triumph! And one thing is certain, if men could have babies the church would endorse drive thru abortion clinics!
For everyone who comes on here and claims this girl is a front for her parents and is not old enough to have an opinion in this matter I'd like to remind you that she is at least 12 years of age. If she's a normal North American then she has already gotten her period. That means she is capable of pregnancy so it would be her body and her choice under the law. This is a reflection of her brain and her choice of opinion. Nobody has to agree with her but if she can bleed/breed she can speak.
Did you know every period you have little girl... IS A WASTED BABY!??! That lil' egg wanted to be a baby, but you selfishly denied it the right. How many of those little eggs could have been the next doctors, lawyers, teachers, or brainwashed pro life parrots? Every month you let a potential life slip down the drain and you should be ashamed. Oh wait, you haven't had a period yet and are just a mouthpiece for your crazy militant parents.
@poojazephyr She wants abortion to be illegal. That is taking away a person's (abortion isn't only a woman's issue) right to decide what they want to do with the fetus that is inside their body. She wants people to go through a pregnancy unwillingly and I find that disgusting.
She doesn't know everyone. She doesn't know their situations. She doesn't know what they're going through. What their dreams, hopes, etc are. She shouldn't be saying what should and shouldn't be illegal. She's a child!
@Scoooobyful Don't forget, she also thinks a girl who has been raped by her father should be FORCED to have the baby to full term. She has said she doesn't condone abortion by rape victims, and that they should have no choice in the matter at all. As does Sarah Palin. Shows you don't have to be male to be against women's rights.
@CinnabonChan If we're talking about choice, and giving the woman a choice, what about the child? Did we give that child a choice? And when I say I believe a woman who was raped should carry the baby to full term, I don't just leave it at that. I believe that, as a society, we should help the women in those situations and offer them other options instead of abortion. I care for both the woman and the unborn. We should offer solutions that help incorporate the well-being of both.
@FyreFoxXP If you want to help the woman who is already suffering the trauma of rape, how about giving her the right to decide what happens to her own uterus, instead of her expecting to be a human petri dish for a rapist's child?
@CinnabonChan Because the baby inside the womb is NOT the father he/she is a SEPERATE individual and deserves a life. woman live 70 plus years what is 9 months to give a baby a lifetime of choices. a 70 plus lifetime, there are lots of people wanting to adopt. So adoption is a good option. Abortion should never be allowed. You are talking about a woman being selfish. to me there is only 2 choices adoption or having the child and raising he/she yourself.
@TelluluSnape Fine, when someone you love gets raped by their uncle, tell her to stop being a selfish bitch, and to carry the result of that trauma inside her womb for nine months. So what if she didn't make the choice to get pregnant or even have sex, and that denying her right to an abortion will only inflict FURTHER emotional suffering on her? The rights of a potential person cancel out her own rights as a person. She's a human incubator for the potential life inside her, so tough shit.
@CinnabonChan I will, I was raped by my uncle and if I hadn't had a miscarriage at 13 I would have carried that child and gave that baby a right to life. I still feel guilty. I was going to give him/her up for adoption. Oh boo hoo I was this I, I, I, Me, me, me, this society of self-centeredness disgusts me never once do you mention the child in her womb. a baby is a human not a potential person. 9 months isn't that long, yes tough its legal because of heartless people like YOU
@TelluluSnapeWhy should you feel guilty? The only one who should feel guilty is your uncle. "Oh boo hoo I was this or that"? Why should a woman have her mind made up over an act that she played no decision in? No one asks to be raped, or chooses to be raped, hence why it's called RAPE and not sexual intercourse. The self centeredness of people who feel they have a right to decide what another woman has to do with her body never ceases to disgust me. Are you going to give that child a home?
@CinnabonChan If I could I would, there are lots of families who want to adopt because they can't have children of their own. Gay adoption should be legal as well, I know a few good gay people who would make excellent parents. And I do feel guilty for my body miscarrying a child. abortion is murder its wrong just like rape is wrong. How is it that a fetus is only a baby when a woman wants it? You can be disgusted in me that is fine. But I have to stand up for whats right I'll always be for life.
@dex1391 The child deserves the right to be born? Oh, who cares about what the person carrying the fetus (yes, fetus - not baby, not child) wants? Who cares about their situation? Who cares about what they're going through? Their dreams? Their hopes? As long as a fetus gets to be born, who cares!
@Scoooobyful The thing is, most pro lifers only care about the baby while it's in utero, and as far as they are concerned, the woman is just an incubator for the precious little miracle. But they don't give a shit about what happens to the baby after it's born. Hell, the woman could give birth straight into a meat grinder for all they care, just as long as she doesn't abort it while its still a little blob of cells. SAVE THE BABIES! (but only while they are still in the womb)
She'll make one hell of a debater/politician one day, but let's face she has no credibility at her age. She probably has not even had sex yet. EVERY choice has consequences. If she chooses ice cream, the preservatives impact her baby's health -- is this child abuse?
If choose a Ford, someone dies from the pollution -- is that murder?
Privileged children of her country no nothing of the real world out there, they just see their immediate surroundings in a bubble.
I cannot believe that you actually asked that question. What's wrong with it? It's called basic morality. A child deserves to be protected. And sorry but money is not a good enough answer. How greedy are you that you'd rather kill a baby than spend a couple dollars. Hell no one's asking you to even spend a nickle... just don't kill the child. There are plenty of homes waiting for the baby.
Why is it that rape victims are usually over-joyed to find out that they are one of the 99 percent that DID NOT get pregnant? Why do many rape victims feel like that have received a death sentence when they find out that THEY ARE the 1 percent.
It's supposed to be rare because there is a chance that women who do get abortions, become damaged for life, that is why it should be a last way out solution, and not because of your stupid pro life idea of fetuses.
All of your arguments are invalid, stop using fallacies to support your argument. All you are doing is making your opinion weaker and weaker. I will DESTROY you in a debate. Fucking get at me you fucking christfag. You support free will yet you want to take civil rights away from others. Yea your fucking logic is amazing, get on my level you dumb bitch.
Some women are happy being baby making machines, and some women do not even like having their monthly menstrual periods. Do you think she knows about either one.
You could argue that by consistently choosing chocolate, you are exploiting underpaid, overworked cocoa farmers. You could argue that, depending on gas mileage, your choice of a GM over a Ford is harmful to the environment, and therefore harmful to future generations. These arguments may be ridiculous, but my point is nothing is black and white.
@swimmer24100 Excellent points swimmer. This young girl is obviously very intelligent and will be an intellectual force as she matures. But at her existing age, she does not have the life experience to be credible. There she sits in her pleasant looking garden and in the privilege of north american living, unaware that even simple choices such as ice cream have consequences both good and bad. In her youth, she still needs to lear the lesson that life is not so black and white as she thinks.
@IYoonI It's not the woman's right though. The baby may be in her body, but that doesn't make it "her right" to kill it.
Nobody should have the right to kill thier baby. Thats the same as killing a fully grown person. just becasue it cant think doesn't mean it's not human...or a life.
I don't think people should drink excessively, but I still believe drinking should be legal, because the consequences prohibition would have on this country are a lot worse than the consequences drinking has on this country. Just because someone says something should happen rarely doesn't mean it should be illegal.
Actually the republicans believe you should buy a Ford most of the time. This issue without a doubt (or there wouldn't be such a fuss) is morally gray. The only reason your are arguing your point is daddy holding the camera, and your religion which you will never TRULY question in your life. You probably don't eat eggs because that was a developing or unhatched chick?
Alright, I'll have a child I don't want to have, and I'll give it up for adoption, as that's the only other choice for me. Oh, but since you care SO MUCH about that child's life, I assume you'll make sure he/she goes to a good family, a good school, and has a great life, right? Hah, don't make me laugh!
All you pro-lifers stop caring as soon as the baby is out of the womb.
As a woman, I'd like to have the choice to have an abortion. It's MY choice, not yours.
@RomyLikezCuppycakes Thats twisted logic. If a man is beating the living shit out of his wife & I say it's wrong,should I then have to marry her just to stop the abuse??NO,I'm perfectly within my rights to think its wrong AND try to stop him,without having to marry the woman. Someone shouldnt have to adopt your child just to stop u from killing it,thats freakin retarded...where do get your reasoning from??
@777yojoe I have no idea what you just said, and it isn't even relative. You probably missed my point, and just commented away- figures.
I'm saying pro-lifers need to stop telling me to give a baby up for adoption, if they don't give a shit what happens to that baby after it's adopted. The only thing they care about is getting the baby out of the womb, which doesn't give them a valid reason to try and get abortion to be illegal.
@RomyLikezCuppycakes Makes no sense?? makes perfect sense...your reasoning is"dont tell me not to kill my baby if you dont care what happens to it" so either choose between u killing it or making sure its taken care of after adoption..duh...no one should have to ADOPT YOUR BABY & CARE FOR IT just to prevent u from KILLING IT..perfect logical anology...its like marrying a battered woman to stop her husband from beating her...what part u dont get sour cakes..
@777yojoe The battered woman bullshit is what makes no fucking sense. No, my god damned reasoning is that I'm sick of stupid pro-life asses telling me to just adopt off every baby I don't want, even though they don't CARE about the baby. All they care about is getting abortion illegal, because they don't like it.
In the case of a woman who is abused by her partner, anybody wanting to help would probably be a n acquaintance that *cares* about her safety and health.
@RomyLikezCuppycakes Ok so its not ok for a women to get beat but its ok for a baby to die??THAT is what makes no sense..and btw...LMAO SMH..."adopt off everybaby you dont want" yo what are u some sort of little shop of horrors for babies? LOL you know i hope oneday u relize how sick this whole aborting babies shit really is..I mean..their BABIES..you cant get anymore innocent than them..they dont deserve to die because of 5 minutes of pleasure..THEE MOST PRECIOUS thing on earth is a baby..
@777yojoe It's a fetus. I don't have sex, therefore ==> no babies.
"THEE MOST PRECIOUS thing on earth is a baby.." <-- that is your OPINION. I don't give a fuck if you love babies. I personally tend to hate them, and don't want any. And gee, I'd get permanent birth control at age 18, but many doctors thing I'll "change my mind". So, take your problem to them, and stop acting a fool to me.
You know what? I'm human, and it's kind of degrading to put a FETUSES right above mine. I don't have the right to marry the one I love because of people like you. It's just confusing to me how pro-life people are so passionate towards a persons right, but then again takes away someones right to marry. It doesn't make sense. I can agree with some of the things you're saying, but it's also wrong how you would choose ones right over the other, its going against everything you people say about this.
@Tacoflavoredkiss1 An abortion IS choosing one persons rights over another. Most egregious in the case of an aborted baby is the fact that the baby didn't even have the chance to defend itself, to assert his/her rights to life not to mention it's right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness. OH and BTW marriage is not a right as enumberated in the constitution. it is a contract which the government has the right to regulate
@cosmos413 Yeah but you're not even considering what the mother has been through. And no, marriage may not be in constitution, but it shouldn't have to be! marriage is EVERYONES right, a HUMAN right, not a straight persons privlage. That shouldn't have to be in the constitution because its an obvious right. There is supposed to be a seperation of church and state in this country. But people like you come in, and take away everyones right, and pursuit of happiness.
@Tacoflavoredkiss1 How do you know I haven't considered what the potential mother has been through? Who ever said anything about church/religion? Abortion is killing a human life, just because it happens in war does not make it right
@cosmos413 Because if you have, you wouldn't be wanting to outlaw abortion. And I was talkin g about marriage, the only reason why same-sex marriage is mostly illegal is because of the religious campaigns. And 90% of pro-lifers are very religious.
@Tacoflavoredkiss1 You have seriously misconstrued everything I have said. I never said anything about outlawing abortion, I'm not religious and I couldn't care less if you marry another man, woman or goat, I don't care. I wan't women who are considering aborting their child to know that they are killing a human life.....period
@cosmos413 I wasn't just attacking you, I'm attacking the majority of the pro-lifers. The woman, is getting rid of the child for the childs sake. You should look up the Maury show, and tell me if ANY of those people would be good parents. And its obvious that they are too selfish to give that child up for adoption. Do you want that life for that innocent baby? Its terrible!
@cosmos413 What? no! a parent should want everything for that child. In my opinion, I think adoption should be the choice, but that is extremely more emotional, and some people can't handle that. Abortion should be a choice, for the mother. Mother knows whats best for their children, and maybe that's abortion.
Sorry can't rate but u go girl
Krazycandydancer 5 hours ago
I came for the ice cream damn title miss leading. Little girl talking i only heard ba ba ba ba where my ice cream. Now i going to like your video just to be nice, but where is it kiddo nice thought read abortion personal issue. LOL share it with your class mate or write a letter to your political idol. Hey, idk but if someone try to kill my child smack your hand. If someone esle i have enough problem. Thank you miss and i respect your view even if i did't watch it.
TheSuperhospital 10 hours ago
You don't get to choose what you want to say, or make up your own mind. Because your mummy does it for you.
TheOnlyTechnoFish 1 week ago
Love says, 'I sacrifice myself for the good of the other person.' Abortion says, 'I sacrifice the other person for the good of myself".
1001myplaylist 2 weeks ago
Things aren't always right or wrong. Nothing is just black and white.
itsreallynotacat 1 month ago
Abortion is not wrong or right.
It's wrong that condoms are being replaced by abortion
It's right because it controls overpopulation and other unwanted stuff
It's not wrong or right
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Abortion is a personal choice
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Sorry, Lia, but abortions and murder are far more serious then ice cream. And while I am completely pro life I don't think a little girl is ready to take on an issue like this.
mochamegan123 1 month ago
@mochamegan123 i respect your opinion, i am a pro life just like u, i do appreciate and admire lia for what she is doing, i think she has all the facts to says what she is saying, she is teaching a lesson to many adults that have forgotten that we are the ones who make a difference, we should not be waiting for somebody else to do it for us, it should motivate us adults to take a stand on this issue & do a video like she is doing or make a difference someway somehow, god bless you
funkeiromiami 1 month ago
@funkeiromiami Thank you for not being a jerk. I almost hate posting comments on youtube because of all the negative feedback I get (in mean ways.) but you said your disagreement in a kind and understanding way and instead of getting annoyed and suddenly jumping to argue I actually read what you said and saw your point.
Why can't other people be like you?
mochamegan123 1 month ago
@TheLolliepop20 You just made yourself sound extremely uneducated Abortion is the killing of an unborn baby Abortions usually occur for a couple reasons, mostly concerning money. Either the parents dont want another child (which i feel is infringing on morals) or because the parents of the child cannot support it( in which case is reasonable). Someone walking into a fucking house unloading a clip into someone, is immoral they both are still taking lives but one is correct morally in some cases
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@TheLolliepop20 A fetus is not a person. It is human, and it's also alive. But it is not a person yet. It is merely a potential person.
dancer8164 2 months ago
But I do think that there's hypocrisy on both sides of the issue. I'm more of a neutral person.
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Another issue that I have with anti-abortion:
Suppose that we were grossly overpopulated. Suppose that unwanted pregnancies were becoming as common as wanted ones. Suppose that nobody - not teenagers, not young couples, nobody - took the idea of contraception seriously. What then? Should we still be letting in every new fetus that comes our way with open arms? No matter how much natural resources and planet space we're using up? What then? (This is highly hypothetical, but still.)
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It isn't okay to kill fetuses, but what about tapeworms? They're living things, too - shouldn't all life be equal?
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I'm Pro-choice, but that doesn't mean I agree with abortions. Everyone should be able to do what they want with their body.
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you can't legislate morality, little girl. come back to me when you get your period/are old enough to vote.
emilyfremontsmith 3 months ago
yes i agree the woman needs to decide when and how and why she wants to open her legs if not then put a locker on her vagina.
Littlefoot3559 3 months ago
@Littlefoot3559 Bring back the chastity belt!! :)
mylittlekittens 3 months ago
Lia likes ice cream better than abortions!
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu her face is so punchable
siebenny 3 months ago
OMG I realize you are like 8 and you obviously aren't too bright, however if you're going to spew your mindless bullshit over the internet you can take criticism. Nevertheless, in response to your dumb analogy (killing a grown women to killing a fetus). Let me break something down for you. FETUS NO ORGANISM. FETUS LIKE ORGAN. FETUS NO RESPOND TO STIMULI. GROWN WOMEN IS ORGANISM. SHE NO ORGAN. SHE RESPOND TO STIMULI. Also, if I use GermX am I a mass murderer? I'm essentially massacring bacteria.
xArabianxBeastx 4 months ago
Just a quick note: LIberal and Conservative and Democrat and Republican are the same thing...
mochamegan123 4 months ago 9
@mochamegan123 no they aren't. Democrats are more liberal and republicans are more conservative, but just because I'm very liberal doesn't mean I'm a democrat. Democrat/Republican are just party classifications that have connotations of liberal and conservative.
TheCaptainEli 1 month ago
@mochamegan123 I think that was the point; addressing different cultures you know? Like, Canadian to American to British. (:
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@kristinlucianoo Yeah thinking back to it I can see how she can contrast the two.
mochamegan123 1 month ago
@mochamegan123 no they're not!
imanna1995 2 weeks ago
And it definitely has a heartbeat. I cried and I knew I couldnt kill this little precious thing that grows everyday inside the womb. I'm glad she is raising awareness, because society has really closed their ears and shut their eyes to tragedies like this disgusting act.
00loladead00 4 months ago
And that is the issue, a woman who has chosen to abort, terminate and kill her child has desensitized herself from it, pushed aside any feeling for it and has treated it as some trash you can just throw away. When I found out I was pregnant I immediately looked at a visual of the little embryo, and did you know, at just 5 weeks, which by the way is usually when a woman finds out she is carrying, the little tiny bud inside you already has fingernails and little hairs on it's developing body?
00loladead00 4 months ago
So, she doesn't know the intimacies of sexual intercourse, she doesn't need to to see millions upon millions of children are being takin from this world because a mother can't put aside her selfishness and take responsibility. Once you are pregnant, you are a mother. Not when the baby is delivered but the moment it is conceived. I'd hate to think your mother contemplated aborting you once she found out you were in her womb..I'm sure she loves you more than anything.
00loladead00 4 months ago
She's twelve years old and she is a heck of a lot more mature than you are seeing as you like calling a little girl names and hating on her beliefs. Also, I seriously doubt she's been 'brainwashed', you can easily see she is passionate about this subject and she is going to take a stand whether anyone likes it or not. I think she is a very beautiful and mature girl inside and out, and Id be a proud mother of this child for not being afraid to speak on something so controversial.
00loladead00 4 months ago
w4T a duM dawwg!
siebenny 4 months ago
GOD DAMN THIS BITCH IS EVERYWHERE WHY DONT YOU MAKE YOUR OWN CHOICES not doing this cause your parents have brainwashed you BEFOR TELL OTHERS HOW TO MAKE THERES
mydogjudas85 4 months ago
lol I watch this video and all I see is a brainwashed kid.
FreedomForOrcas 4 months ago
She doesnt even know what is a dick and she is talkin bout abortion ! She is just repeting what some secret people told them to say. Thats ridiculous. In 10 years, a 5 years old girl is going to tell you why its bad to ass fuck your wife !
hackingz0ne 4 months ago
False dichotomy, no?
marquee989 4 months ago
you have spent a lot of time preaching when you have not obtained your own wisdom. I feel like these beliefs are not what you have developed but what your parents have pushed onto you. When I was your age, I was going on hour long bike rides around my quiet town with my best friends, and playing baseball in my front yard while my sister practiced cheer leading with her friends. Go enjoy yourself and shame on your parents for forcing their beliefs on you.
goaliedude32 5 months ago
You're incredibly young, so I just have to say this: Nothing is black and white. Nothing is either this or that. By taking away choice, you ARE robbing someone else of their rights. People SHOULD be free to choose what happens to their bodies.
JustALilInsane94 5 months ago
The fact that you would make a video as flippant as this on such a serious topic only PROVES that you lack the maturity to even comprehend- much less philosophize on- a subject as weighty as this.
When you've been raped and end up pregnant, you will understand. When you have to work to support yourself you will understand. When you are faced with a pregnancy but do not even make enough money to feed Yourself, you will understand.
For now, you are just a dumb kid, and you do NOT understand..
planetery 5 months ago
you should be the next prime minster!
lilykin88 5 months ago
@MissClavelle The end result to this battle is the same. It is our choice, and always will be. Pro-Life has lost the battle to the greater good and you need to accept that and fade into obscurity. I would also advise taking that insufferable, recovered-abortion, Lia with you. Any child who becomes brainwashed proves weak willed and ill-suited to contributing to our world. Now, it is far better to remain silent and thought to be a fool, than to continue to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Vanity777777 5 months ago
@MissClavelle Seriously, a person is not "mature" because they agree with your particular opinion and "immature" because they don't.. (If so, you are calling the United States Supreme Court "immature.") you don't agree, you need to grow up.... Or at least start to use the dictionary so you can understand what these words mean.
makeroftoys 5 months ago
@makeroftoys She is "mature" because she knows it is wrong to kill babies. Did you know babies are killed up to 9 months? So right before that child is born is could be aborted. So to you its not an actual newborn because its in the womb and not technically in the world? Well what about the astronauts? Are they not human because they are not on earth?
MissClavelle 5 months ago
@MissClavelle First, I did not disparage Lia's maturity by saying she was "just a kid." To the contrary, she is obviously mature for her age. I was merely saying that (speaking as an adult) I will not attack a child. I think everyone understood that except for you.
Second, the majority of voters in United States are pro-choice: well over 100 million people. So, I don't know if your comment that Lia is "more mature than these people put together" is meaningless or asinine. You choose.
makeroftoys 5 months ago
@makeroftoys She is more mature BECAUSE she understands it is not right to murder a child because of the mother's choice of having unprotected sex. If the mother was raped, she could put it up for adoption. You people disgust me. Do you even know what happens during abortion? Their legs get ripped off their sculls get crushed etc. And just because the fetus is not done developing doesnt mean its not human. Kids arent done developing until they are 16. Does that mean they are not human, either?
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makeroftoys 5 months ago
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you are describing a partial-birth abortion, a very rare procedure that most pro-choice people find disgusting, including me. Partial-birth abortions are horrible, and I think they should be outlawed.
These issues are far more complex than I am willing to pursue with you. I'm sorry, but I find the analogy to astronauts so illogical I don't think conversation would be fruitful. I hope you find peace.
makeroftoys 5 months ago
@MissClavelle it might be helpful for you to do some research from a neutral source like US government data because your information is obviously from extremely biased sources.
Did you know that over 40% of US women aged 40 to 50 have had an abortion? 40% is a huge percentage.
You certainly know some of these women. They are not bad people.
makeroftoys 5 months ago
@makeroftoys I have never met someone in real life who is pro-abortion and nor do i want to because just be talking to you I can tell they are sick, nasty, rude people. And a 5 year old girl does not have 1. breasts yet 2. hit puberty 3. gotten a period. Obviously she is not completely developed. Does this mean she is not a human either?
MissClavelle 5 months ago
@makeroftoys Well that one 5 year old girl in the 1800s did have breasts and hit puberty and had periods and she did get pregnant from rape but she had her kid, but anyways that's the only case that I've heard of of a 5 year old girl (or younger or slightly older) who had these
MissClavelle 5 months ago
@MissClavelle you appear to have a conversation with yourself. I have no idea what you're talking about with regard to five-year-old girls and their development. I strongly suggest you find something else to do because you're not helping your case here.
As I said, there is no such thing as a person who is "pro-abortion". Nobody likes abortion. Some people, including those on the United States Supreme Court, believe it is the lesser evil in the complex real world in which many of us live. Bye.
makeroftoys 5 months ago
@makeroftoys LOL you just called yourself a nobody
And I am talking about how children are not fully developed, just like fetuses, and we don't say they are not humans
There is a person who is pro-abortion. Its you and all the other people who think abortion is OK. You like abortion because you support it.
"Bye."
I win. You didn't wanna talk anymore so you just ran far far away. Yeah see ya
MissClavelle 5 months ago
@MissClavelle
I now understand why you are so concerned with the development of five-year-olds.
makeroftoys 5 months ago
@makeroftoys I'm not concerned about their development I'm using them as an example. You are very perverted
MissClavelle 5 months ago
@MissClavelle Now THAT is funny. I was pointing out you have intellectual capacity and maturity of a young child... and you decided it was sexual?!?! Creepy.
makeroftoys 5 months ago
@makeroftoys Because you are perverted HAHAHA
MissClavelle 5 months ago
Why are all the pro-abortioners here if they like abortion? Filthy murderers....
MissClavelle 5 months ago
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@MissClavelle As for your question:"Why are all the pro-abortioners here if they like abortion? "
There is no such thing as a "pro-abortionist". Nobody LIKES abortions, just as nobody LIKES open heart surgery.... but sometimes people choose to do both anyway. The fact is when abortion was illegal many woman ended up killing themselves (and the baby-to-be) trying to have have an abortion. The real world can be sad in many different ways.
makeroftoys 5 months ago
An undeveloped baby in the womb has many less neurons with which to transport feelings than say, an adult cow. So how come life isn't precious when it's dinner time, but it is when some stray sperm waltz on down to egg town?
BringBRToTheUK 5 months ago
Lets say I had animistic beliefs. I believe even inanimate objects have souls. You are HARMING that chocolate icecream by eating it. Give it it's rights!
Same logic she's using, right?
Volcarona32 5 months ago
And the analogy is saying some choices are small...some are HUGE! I don't care what the situation,abortion kills a child,messes up a woman psychologically and physically,and don't say I don't know what I'm talking about I've met dozens of people who have been through it...They are damaged...Do not ever think that there is no other way out! You are a mother...act like one and do whats best for the child
JennMillsTheSinger 5 months ago
Girls SHOULD be educated on topics such as sex,pregnancy,etc...So this girl knows a lot about abortion and believes its wrong,so what! She is standing up for what she believes in! That is something we all can learn from.My opinion...Abortion=killing...Killing=WRONG....Enough said...
JennMillsTheSinger 5 months ago
you dont know anything you puppet girl. tell you parents to stop writing your script
dmnjt2 5 months ago
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@dmnjt2
just because you can not argue like her doesn't mean she can't come up with logical arguments.
fourteatwo 5 months ago
i thought that in one of her scenarios chocolate was the same as abortion? secret message? hmmmm.....
ahepburn714 5 months ago
Every baby deserves the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness!
DeanClark68 5 months ago
Christian drone.
clumpft 5 months ago
Abortion makes no sense, a fetus isjust a patch of cells that has the potential to turn into a human, you know what else has potential. spawm cells, eggs? are we going to save all of them to? it is the same concept.
yoyoboy70 5 months ago
This kid is TWELVE. No twelve year old that I know gives a squirrel's shit about the abortion "issue". Shame on this girl's horrible misogynistic parents for using their daughter as a puppet in their idealogical war. Scum. ABORTION IS LEGAL. I don't know how many times us sane folks have to repeat it before it gets through the thick skulls of these menaces to society and progress. Get over it. You "pro-lifers" lost, now go home and shut up.
kchristy2 5 months ago
@kchristy2 ...how many kids do you know? Probably not many. Kids can be really smart.
amanda2324 5 months ago
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To reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies, which reduces the number of abortions, I support Planned Parenthood and their efforts to help make effective and affordable birth control available to all women who need it.
What do you anti-Choice people do to reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies?
ndrthrdr1 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey
fetuses cannot properly respond to pain until after 6 months. i'm pro-choice but after 4-5 months, it's too fucking late, but still, stupid bitches have to have late term abortions.
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@PhilSchlenkerHockey A beating heart is not what matters. What matters is weather or not the fetus is a "person". Is the fetus Conscious? Can the fetus suffer and to what extent? Can the fetus grasp the concept of mortality ? The beating heart argument is a surreptitious appeal to emotion.
ryan84160 6 months ago
I'm 12 years old and I prefer having ice cream to having abortions!!
mylittlekittens 6 months ago
"most girls would just go find another bf" LOL, what fucking planet do you live on?
"i don't take someone else's choice away" you obviously don't know what your doing in these video's then
"i'm very pro-choice" lol, those examples you gave, that has nothing to do with being pro-choice
you keep going off about "rights rights rights" but forcing a woman to give birth to something she doesn't want to, it going against her rights, a fetus is nothing more then a parasite feeding off its host
SuperMilitantAtheist 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey If the discussion is whether or not a fertilized egg is human,and your logic goes as deep as saying I must be wrong because I make analogies to things that are not human.... I am wasting my time. Just be aware your entire argument is based on the assumption that you're correct: Completely circular.
The idea that everything in the world is not itself until its parts are assembled... EXCEPT FOR HUMANS is just wishful thinking. Good luck with that.
makeroftoys 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey as I said, the middle ground is much more complicated. If you still think that a fertilized egg is already a person, there is no point to having the more complicated conversation. I have given clear examples why this position simply doesn't make sense. You have not given a single reason, other than your own conclusion, to support your position. If you can't defend your position.... Maybe you should reevaluate it.
makeroftoys 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey you need to take a class in logical thinking. you are starting from the conclusion. You call it n "child." But what to call it IS the discussion. basically, you are never thinking if you start at the end. I have already made my point over and over again. It is very simple. The building blocks are not the same as the end result. if you think they're the same thing... then next time STOP making dinner before you start and eat it.... Because it's already dinner.
makeroftoys 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey And if for some reason you need a living example, when an Orange Blossom is germinated by a bee, it is not suddenly an "orange tree". it's a germinated orange blossom. That's it. you need to consider why logic stops working because the word "human" fills in the blank.
makeroftoys 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey If you want to be taken seriously you can't dismiss logical thought without any basis. Milk sugar and chocolate are not "ice cream". Car parts sitting in a pile is not a "car". A pail of sand and a gallon of petroleum are not a "pair of glasses". A [fill in the blank] is not a [fill in the blank] until it is baked, assembled, manufactured or grown. I have already said I agree with the extreme case. The problem obviously lies in the middle. Have other things to do. bye.
makeroftoys 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey To show the complexity of the issue for me, I AGREE with you. Late-term abortions are murder and should be illegal. to my mind, the complexity is that the fetus transitions from being a cluster of cells that bears NO resemblance to a human being whatsoever.(no brain, no nervous system. Not even a single nerve)... to a child that is simply not born yet. Stopping a few cells (ro my mind) weighs in favor of trhe woman's rights. Killing an unborn. child...disgusts me. Complex.
makeroftoys 6 months ago
@PhilSchlenkerHockey
Please reread what I wrote. I said," A blastula is not a human, although it may be one day..." meaning my comment was completely consistent with biogenesis. Are two cells a human being at conception? If you think that a collection of car parts, that have not yet been assembled, is a "car" then I suppose the answer is yes.
makeroftoys 6 months ago
lastly, as for rarity, again the world is more complex than black-and-white.
Heart surgery, for example, is sometimes needed, but it is the very last resort. The desire is to perform heart surgery "rarely" because there are more desirable approaches. No one WANTS to do heart surgery. Just as no one WANTS to do an abortion. Both fall in the category of last-resort options, to be performed as rarely as possible.
Got it?
makeroftoys 6 months ago
Lia, you are just a kid, and we have no way of knowing if you write your videos, so it is hard to craft an appropriate response. Suffice to say that these issues are more complex than ice cream or car choice. A blastula is not a human, although it may be one day... The same as milk, sugar and chocolate is not yet ice cream.
the complexity lies in the transition from not a human... to human. And in the right of government to control a person's internal organs. Try to think of it that way.
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@makeroftoys im not trying to bud in or make u angry in anyway, but maybe by using those examples she is probly trying to make younger teens understand, like for me im 12 years old and im learning more and more about this subject by watching her videos
671btches 3 months ago
@makeroftoys Ironic that you criticise her as being too simplistic, and yet arbitrarily label a genetically distinct blastocyst as non-human and say that the only key agent affected is the mother and her "internal organs". This is the definition of hypocrasy.
LoneRookRS1 3 months ago
@makeroftoys A persons a person no matter how small. You are killing a human being they have forty six chromosomes, metabolism, DNA etc. Abortion is wrong and that is one of the many reasons I'm pro-life.
icewomen881 3 months ago
@icewomen881 So throwing out a used condom is murder by your definition.
edawg792 1 month ago
@edawg792 No,but killing a baby is my definition.There is ALWAYS Adoption,and to kill a pure heart someone who hasn't done a wrong thing is wrong.If your in a situation like that can't it wait so you don't kill the baby?
icewomen881 1 month ago
@icewomen881 There is NOT always adoption. Also, giving away a baby isn't easy. Even if it was an unplanned pregnancy, you will have a hard time due to natural motherly instinct. If you do manage to give it up, you will know you have a child somewhere out there in the world. It is likely they will come look for their biological parents. There will always be that loose end, and it can be terribly hard to live with.
edawg792 1 month ago
@edawg792 wait..... motherly instinct? this person might abort the baby i guess she might care for it,but not entirely since she was thinking of aborting it.Which is killing it because the baby isn't getting life and i understand how hard it is to get an adoption or give the baby up, but its for the baby whats BEST for the baby,and thats life... with someone who could take care of it:) And oh yah how is there not always adoption adoption is always an option lol:)
icewomen881 1 month ago
Lia prefers earing ice cream to abortions.
mylittlekittens 6 months ago
Lia Mills is my hero. She respects life from conception to natural death.
DeanClark68 6 months ago
2:57 "I believe that women should make choices like [...] WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD HAVE KIDS [...] so when it comes to abortion[...]"
A little bit contradictory much? If a woman does not want a child and decides to have an abortion, that's her prerogative. No matter the reason, or the circumstance. It is that individual's choice, it's no one else's business.
katneko1990 7 months ago
Lia seems to be missing out the fact a huge amount of abortions aren't because of "personal preferance". Some are, but then some are due to health reasons, or money or another unfortunate circumstance.
I'm not saying I think abortion isright because I believe we are all Gods children. However if a person I knew HAD an abortion, I would support them and help them through what is obviously a difficult choice, I mean comparing it to choosing ice cream is totally wrong. Its not like that at all.
Midnightbluexxx 7 months ago
Abortion is legal. Get over it. You don't like it, but it's legal. I don't like smoking but that's legal too, so while it's my choice not to smoke I can't stop anyone else doing it. Stop trying to shame other people into making the choice you think is right.
SweetAsMapleSyrup 7 months ago 12
@SweetAsMapleSyrup Its also murder.
MissClavelle 5 months ago
@SweetAsMapleSyrup do you have kids? If not, I personally hope you dont, cause you might kill that child, and if you do, what would you tell your daughter if she gets pregnant at a young age? tell her to abort the child or life is ruined. well the girl's life that she knows it ends when she delivers the baby, but a new life starts. and if she still dont want it, there is females out that like myself who cant have anymore kids or non at all
Princesslayea 4 months ago
@Princesslayea Nowhere above did I say that I would ever get an abortion. Personally, I wouldn't want to. But I am pro-choice, because I would never presume to try and take other people's choices away from them. As abortion is legal it is absolutely none of my, or anybody's, business whether other people have one or not. Can't you see what I mean? People make choices sometimes that we don't agree with, but if it's within their rights to do it, it's nothing to do with us.
SweetAsMapleSyrup 4 months ago
@SweetAsMapleSyrup If we all had the same mentality as you did when it came to things we believed in we would all be ignorant..who knows if you took a stand with the many others who were against things such as smoking that might slowly be in the process of becoming illegal..and why shut out our morals when morals are what you base your life choices on? If we stand for something let us stand for it..we're not just going to stand by.."Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."
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You can believe that abortion is wrong and at the same time believe that the government should not take away a woman's right to choose. These two beliefs are not mutually exclusive.
MCredshift 7 months ago
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Here in Ireland today the good guys finally scored a point in the war against religion esp. roman catholicism. Our priminister informed the pope that the law of the land supercedes cannon law i.e. the clergy will be prosecuted if they attempt to hide information about priests sexually abusing minors. The church has ruled with an iron fist here for years - it is truly a triumph! And one thing is certain, if men could have babies the church would endorse drive thru abortion clinics!
newfrontier01 7 months ago
@MsColdCanada I agree with yu
i3luv3christina 7 months ago
For everyone who comes on here and claims this girl is a front for her parents and is not old enough to have an opinion in this matter I'd like to remind you that she is at least 12 years of age. If she's a normal North American then she has already gotten her period. That means she is capable of pregnancy so it would be her body and her choice under the law. This is a reflection of her brain and her choice of opinion. Nobody has to agree with her but if she can bleed/breed she can speak.
MsColdCanada 7 months ago
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I'de pay 20 bucks to anyone who has sex with this girl and gets her prego, that will teach the bitch the truth about abortions.
n00bcr3w 7 months ago
Did you know every period you have little girl... IS A WASTED BABY!??! That lil' egg wanted to be a baby, but you selfishly denied it the right. How many of those little eggs could have been the next doctors, lawyers, teachers, or brainwashed pro life parrots? Every month you let a potential life slip down the drain and you should be ashamed. Oh wait, you haven't had a period yet and are just a mouthpiece for your crazy militant parents.
CinnabonChan 7 months ago
@poojazephyr She wants abortion to be illegal. That is taking away a person's (abortion isn't only a woman's issue) right to decide what they want to do with the fetus that is inside their body. She wants people to go through a pregnancy unwillingly and I find that disgusting.
She doesn't know everyone. She doesn't know their situations. She doesn't know what they're going through. What their dreams, hopes, etc are. She shouldn't be saying what should and shouldn't be illegal. She's a child!
Scoooobyful 7 months ago
@Scoooobyful Don't forget, she also thinks a girl who has been raped by her father should be FORCED to have the baby to full term. She has said she doesn't condone abortion by rape victims, and that they should have no choice in the matter at all. As does Sarah Palin. Shows you don't have to be male to be against women's rights.
CinnabonChan 7 months ago
@CinnabonChan If we're talking about choice, and giving the woman a choice, what about the child? Did we give that child a choice? And when I say I believe a woman who was raped should carry the baby to full term, I don't just leave it at that. I believe that, as a society, we should help the women in those situations and offer them other options instead of abortion. I care for both the woman and the unborn. We should offer solutions that help incorporate the well-being of both.
FyreFoxXP 7 months ago
@FyreFoxXP If you want to help the woman who is already suffering the trauma of rape, how about giving her the right to decide what happens to her own uterus, instead of her expecting to be a human petri dish for a rapist's child?
CinnabonChan 7 months ago
@CinnabonChan Because the baby inside the womb is NOT the father he/she is a SEPERATE individual and deserves a life. woman live 70 plus years what is 9 months to give a baby a lifetime of choices. a 70 plus lifetime, there are lots of people wanting to adopt. So adoption is a good option. Abortion should never be allowed. You are talking about a woman being selfish. to me there is only 2 choices adoption or having the child and raising he/she yourself.
TelluluSnape 7 months ago
@TelluluSnape Fine, when someone you love gets raped by their uncle, tell her to stop being a selfish bitch, and to carry the result of that trauma inside her womb for nine months. So what if she didn't make the choice to get pregnant or even have sex, and that denying her right to an abortion will only inflict FURTHER emotional suffering on her? The rights of a potential person cancel out her own rights as a person. She's a human incubator for the potential life inside her, so tough shit.
CinnabonChan 7 months ago
@CinnabonChan I will, I was raped by my uncle and if I hadn't had a miscarriage at 13 I would have carried that child and gave that baby a right to life. I still feel guilty. I was going to give him/her up for adoption. Oh boo hoo I was this I, I, I, Me, me, me, this society of self-centeredness disgusts me never once do you mention the child in her womb. a baby is a human not a potential person. 9 months isn't that long, yes tough its legal because of heartless people like YOU
TelluluSnape 7 months ago
@TelluluSnapeWhy should you feel guilty? The only one who should feel guilty is your uncle. "Oh boo hoo I was this or that"? Why should a woman have her mind made up over an act that she played no decision in? No one asks to be raped, or chooses to be raped, hence why it's called RAPE and not sexual intercourse. The self centeredness of people who feel they have a right to decide what another woman has to do with her body never ceases to disgust me. Are you going to give that child a home?
CinnabonChan 7 months ago
@CinnabonChan If I could I would, there are lots of families who want to adopt because they can't have children of their own. Gay adoption should be legal as well, I know a few good gay people who would make excellent parents. And I do feel guilty for my body miscarrying a child. abortion is murder its wrong just like rape is wrong. How is it that a fetus is only a baby when a woman wants it? You can be disgusted in me that is fine. But I have to stand up for whats right I'll always be for life.
TelluluSnape 7 months ago
@poojazephyr
That's a horrible excuse. Give the child up for adoption. If you choose a ford and drive it over a child... yes that's murder.
The child deserves the right to simply be born. After that be a selfish person and walk away I don't care at that point. But don't kill the child.
dex1391 8 months ago
@dex1391 The child deserves the right to be born? Oh, who cares about what the person carrying the fetus (yes, fetus - not baby, not child) wants? Who cares about their situation? Who cares about what they're going through? Their dreams? Their hopes? As long as a fetus gets to be born, who cares!
That is what I see when I read your comment.
Scoooobyful 7 months ago
@Scoooobyful
Yes... the child deserves not to be murdered. I don't think that's too much to ask.
That child didn't ask to be created. Why not ask those questions about the baby?
Who cares what the child wants? Who cares about his or her situation? Who cares about what they're going through? Their dreams? Their hopes.
dex1391 7 months ago
@Scoooobyful The thing is, most pro lifers only care about the baby while it's in utero, and as far as they are concerned, the woman is just an incubator for the precious little miracle. But they don't give a shit about what happens to the baby after it's born. Hell, the woman could give birth straight into a meat grinder for all they care, just as long as she doesn't abort it while its still a little blob of cells. SAVE THE BABIES! (but only while they are still in the womb)
CinnabonChan 7 months ago
She'll make one hell of a debater/politician one day, but let's face she has no credibility at her age. She probably has not even had sex yet. EVERY choice has consequences. If she chooses ice cream, the preservatives impact her baby's health -- is this child abuse?
If choose a Ford, someone dies from the pollution -- is that murder?
Privileged children of her country no nothing of the real world out there, they just see their immediate surroundings in a bubble.
SloMoHeap 8 months ago
@poojazephyr
I hate to tell you but a dead child has absolutely zero quality of life.
And I would love you to look at the waiting list for adoptions... it takes over 2 years now.
3. I would and have...
dex1391 8 months ago
@poojazephyr
I cannot believe that you actually asked that question. What's wrong with it? It's called basic morality. A child deserves to be protected. And sorry but money is not a good enough answer. How greedy are you that you'd rather kill a baby than spend a couple dollars. Hell no one's asking you to even spend a nickle... just don't kill the child. There are plenty of homes waiting for the baby.
dex1391 8 months ago
Why is it that rape victims are usually over-joyed to find out that they are one of the 99 percent that DID NOT get pregnant? Why do many rape victims feel like that have received a death sentence when they find out that THEY ARE the 1 percent.
mylittlekittens 8 months ago
It's supposed to be rare because there is a chance that women who do get abortions, become damaged for life, that is why it should be a last way out solution, and not because of your stupid pro life idea of fetuses.
smauglover 8 months ago
i hate to see brainwashed kids like this
skullpile666 8 months ago
All of your arguments are invalid, stop using fallacies to support your argument. All you are doing is making your opinion weaker and weaker. I will DESTROY you in a debate. Fucking get at me you fucking christfag. You support free will yet you want to take civil rights away from others. Yea your fucking logic is amazing, get on my level you dumb bitch.
ivegotamnesia 8 months ago
Some women are happy being baby making machines, and some women do not even like having their monthly menstrual periods. Do you think she knows about either one.
mylittlekittens 8 months ago
I flagged this for child abuse. AFTER ALL THAT KID DIDENT CHOSE TO BE RELIGIOUS!!! i THINK EVERY ONE SHOULD FLAG THIS THE SAME WAY.
07734world 8 months ago
I would LOVE for this girl to get pregnant and find out her baby is deformed and will suffer all its life.
themadsnail 8 months ago
You're a great debater. I 100% don't agree with you, but you are very persuasive.
LizSoWhat 8 months ago
Fuck all liberals gay marrige,not taxed enough and pro choice pro choice is the stupidest out of the three i agree with lia pro life all the way
ryannewellisg 8 months ago
You could argue that by consistently choosing chocolate, you are exploiting underpaid, overworked cocoa farmers. You could argue that, depending on gas mileage, your choice of a GM over a Ford is harmful to the environment, and therefore harmful to future generations. These arguments may be ridiculous, but my point is nothing is black and white.
swimmer24100 8 months ago 6
@swimmer24100 Excellent points swimmer. This young girl is obviously very intelligent and will be an intellectual force as she matures. But at her existing age, she does not have the life experience to be credible. There she sits in her pleasant looking garden and in the privilege of north american living, unaware that even simple choices such as ice cream have consequences both good and bad. In her youth, she still needs to lear the lesson that life is not so black and white as she thinks.
NelsonIncredulous 8 months ago
A fetus is unaware of itself until it reaches a certain point in development.
You talk about personal preferences?
You are just taking the woman's rights away to get rid of a fetus.
As in "rare", they talk about under certain conditions it should happen such as
in a rape victim or even in a disease where the fetus is stillborn.
If abortion is illegal, you away rights.
blah, blah. Pro-choice my ass.
IYoonI 8 months ago
@IYoonI It's not the woman's right though. The baby may be in her body, but that doesn't make it "her right" to kill it.
Nobody should have the right to kill thier baby. Thats the same as killing a fully grown person. just becasue it cant think doesn't mean it's not human...or a life.
nilorac123321 8 months ago
I don't think people should drink excessively, but I still believe drinking should be legal, because the consequences prohibition would have on this country are a lot worse than the consequences drinking has on this country. Just because someone says something should happen rarely doesn't mean it should be illegal.
swimmer24100 8 months ago
I hope she extends this principle to my right to marry whomever I want...
jrn913 9 months ago
Actually the republicans believe you should buy a Ford most of the time. This issue without a doubt (or there wouldn't be such a fuss) is morally gray. The only reason your are arguing your point is daddy holding the camera, and your religion which you will never TRULY question in your life. You probably don't eat eggs because that was a developing or unhatched chick?
datherax 9 months ago
"I don't rob someone else of their rights" You want to and you are trying to.
Scoooobyful 9 months ago
@Scoooobyful The mother has no right to kill her baby. If the mother has no right to do so, she isn't taking her right...
nilorac123321 8 months ago
So...she's happy she lives in a society where she makes choices, but she wants to take a choice away from women? Riiight...
Scoooobyful 9 months ago
Alright, I'll have a child I don't want to have, and I'll give it up for adoption, as that's the only other choice for me. Oh, but since you care SO MUCH about that child's life, I assume you'll make sure he/she goes to a good family, a good school, and has a great life, right? Hah, don't make me laugh!
All you pro-lifers stop caring as soon as the baby is out of the womb.
As a woman, I'd like to have the choice to have an abortion. It's MY choice, not yours.
RomyLikezCuppycakes 9 months ago 3
@RomyLikezCuppycakes Thats twisted logic. If a man is beating the living shit out of his wife & I say it's wrong,should I then have to marry her just to stop the abuse??NO,I'm perfectly within my rights to think its wrong AND try to stop him,without having to marry the woman. Someone shouldnt have to adopt your child just to stop u from killing it,thats freakin retarded...where do get your reasoning from??
777yojoe 7 months ago
@777yojoe I have no idea what you just said, and it isn't even relative. You probably missed my point, and just commented away- figures.
I'm saying pro-lifers need to stop telling me to give a baby up for adoption, if they don't give a shit what happens to that baby after it's adopted. The only thing they care about is getting the baby out of the womb, which doesn't give them a valid reason to try and get abortion to be illegal.
Your analogy made absolutely no sense.
RomyLikezCuppycakes 7 months ago
@RomyLikezCuppycakes Makes no sense?? makes perfect sense...your reasoning is"dont tell me not to kill my baby if you dont care what happens to it" so either choose between u killing it or making sure its taken care of after adoption..duh...no one should have to ADOPT YOUR BABY & CARE FOR IT just to prevent u from KILLING IT..perfect logical anology...its like marrying a battered woman to stop her husband from beating her...what part u dont get sour cakes..
777yojoe 6 months ago
@777yojoe The battered woman bullshit is what makes no fucking sense. No, my god damned reasoning is that I'm sick of stupid pro-life asses telling me to just adopt off every baby I don't want, even though they don't CARE about the baby. All they care about is getting abortion illegal, because they don't like it.
In the case of a woman who is abused by her partner, anybody wanting to help would probably be a n acquaintance that *cares* about her safety and health.
RomyLikezCuppycakes 6 months ago
@RomyLikezCuppycakes Ok so its not ok for a women to get beat but its ok for a baby to die??THAT is what makes no sense..and btw...LMAO SMH..."adopt off everybaby you dont want" yo what are u some sort of little shop of horrors for babies? LOL you know i hope oneday u relize how sick this whole aborting babies shit really is..I mean..their BABIES..you cant get anymore innocent than them..they dont deserve to die because of 5 minutes of pleasure..THEE MOST PRECIOUS thing on earth is a baby..
777yojoe 6 months ago
@777yojoe It's a fetus. I don't have sex, therefore ==> no babies.
"THEE MOST PRECIOUS thing on earth is a baby.." <-- that is your OPINION. I don't give a fuck if you love babies. I personally tend to hate them, and don't want any. And gee, I'd get permanent birth control at age 18, but many doctors thing I'll "change my mind". So, take your problem to them, and stop acting a fool to me.
RomyLikezCuppycakes 6 months ago
Most 11 year old prefer ice cream to sex!
mylittlekittens 9 months ago
Man, what an annoying indoctrinated kid.
NelsonIncredulous 9 months ago
@NelsonIncredulous Man, what an uneducated revolting person...get a life.
nilorac123321 8 months ago
You know what? I'm human, and it's kind of degrading to put a FETUSES right above mine. I don't have the right to marry the one I love because of people like you. It's just confusing to me how pro-life people are so passionate towards a persons right, but then again takes away someones right to marry. It doesn't make sense. I can agree with some of the things you're saying, but it's also wrong how you would choose ones right over the other, its going against everything you people say about this.
Tacoflavoredkiss1 9 months ago
@Tacoflavoredkiss1 An abortion IS choosing one persons rights over another. Most egregious in the case of an aborted baby is the fact that the baby didn't even have the chance to defend itself, to assert his/her rights to life not to mention it's right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness. OH and BTW marriage is not a right as enumberated in the constitution. it is a contract which the government has the right to regulate
cosmos413 9 months ago
@cosmos413 Yeah but you're not even considering what the mother has been through. And no, marriage may not be in constitution, but it shouldn't have to be! marriage is EVERYONES right, a HUMAN right, not a straight persons privlage. That shouldn't have to be in the constitution because its an obvious right. There is supposed to be a seperation of church and state in this country. But people like you come in, and take away everyones right, and pursuit of happiness.
Tacoflavoredkiss1 9 months ago
@Tacoflavoredkiss1 How do you know I haven't considered what the potential mother has been through? Who ever said anything about church/religion? Abortion is killing a human life, just because it happens in war does not make it right
cosmos413 9 months ago
@cosmos413 Because if you have, you wouldn't be wanting to outlaw abortion. And I was talkin g about marriage, the only reason why same-sex marriage is mostly illegal is because of the religious campaigns. And 90% of pro-lifers are very religious.
Tacoflavoredkiss1 9 months ago
@Tacoflavoredkiss1 You have seriously misconstrued everything I have said. I never said anything about outlawing abortion, I'm not religious and I couldn't care less if you marry another man, woman or goat, I don't care. I wan't women who are considering aborting their child to know that they are killing a human life.....period
cosmos413 9 months ago
@cosmos413 I wasn't just attacking you, I'm attacking the majority of the pro-lifers. The woman, is getting rid of the child for the childs sake. You should look up the Maury show, and tell me if ANY of those people would be good parents. And its obvious that they are too selfish to give that child up for adoption. Do you want that life for that innocent baby? Its terrible!
Tacoflavoredkiss1 9 months ago
@Tacoflavoredkiss1 so....no life life is better than a hard life? perhaps the child would like to have that choice
cosmos413 9 months ago
@cosmos413 What? no! a parent should want everything for that child. In my opinion, I think adoption should be the choice, but that is extremely more emotional, and some people can't handle that. Abortion should be a choice, for the mother. Mother knows whats best for their children, and maybe that's abortion.
Tacoflavoredkiss1 9 months ago
you are annoying ...your parrents should be tooken away for putting you up th this and brainwashing you
M1STERL33T 9 months ago
@M1STERL33T ..you sir are an idiot. You hate her becasue you disagree with her?
nilorac123321 8 months ago