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  • Tis is really fooling Christians, on fryday Christ died on the cross, and as he said after 3 days he will rise, and that was on SUNDAY..that's why Sunday is Holy to Christians.

  • @AngelWynton

    That is the theology behind Sunday sanctity, but sadly is is NOT according to Scripture. Neither Jesus nor Peter nor Paul nor John nor James nor Luke nor any Bible writer teaches a word concerning Sunday sanctity, this is because they all kept the Lord's Day, the seventh Day, Jesus' 4th Commandment Sabbath. Ex 20:8-11, Mark 2:27-28, Rev 1:10, Acts 13:14, 42, 44, Acts 16:13, Acts 17:2, Acts 18:4.

    Will we have faith to obey Jesus and enter into His rest? Matt 11:28, Heb 4:1-11.

  • give onto caesar the things of caesar and to Lord the things of the Lord.

  • This obsession with Sabbath keeping is nothing but legalism.

  • @FAITHandLOGIC

    Legalism is endeavoring to substitute our righteousness in place of Jesus' righteousness. Rom 10:3. But all have sinned--broken God's spiritual law (1 Jn 3:4, Rom 7:14), and fall short of His glory (Rom 3:23), therefore we all need a Savior. It is vain to think we can do anything to justify and eventually save ourselves. That justification comes ONLY by faith, believing in His righteousness. "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." Rom 10:4

  • @Nirky

    What do you believe our righteousness to be?

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    There are two aspects of righteousness spoken of in scripture. First there is God's perfect righteousness (Ps 145:17, Matt 6:33, Rom 1:17, Phil 3:9), His righteousness which we need imputed to us for justification unto salvation because we have all sinned, as I previously explained in my post to FaithAndLogic.

    "As it is written: “ There is none righteous, no, not one"". Rom 3:12, Ps 14:1

    "For there is not a just man on earth who does good and does not sin." Eccl 7:20

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    Our source of righteousness is ONLY from God, faith in His righteousness, for we cannot justify ourselves through what we do. Rom 4:6. So we lack the perfect righteousness needed for salvation, we need Jesus' perfect righteousness imputed and imparted to us.

  • @Nirky

    Phl 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

    There are two righteousnesses mentioned here

    1. Our own righteousness which comes by what we do according to the law; and,

    2. the righteousness that comes by faith, which is not of the law

    The first one is our bad attempt at becoming right with God through our own attempts at fulfilling God's promises

  • such as when Abraham took Hagar to try and fulfill God's promise of a son. Man treats the law like their "hagar", they are trying to fulfill the promise of God by their attempts at keeping it. As much as I hate to say it, people are treating the sabbath like their hagar. Using it to try and fulfill the promise. The law is our attempt at righteousness, which will never work.

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    Paul's burden in Philippians 3 is to show that believers do not look to themselves (what Paul calls "confidence in the flesh", v4) for righteousness, that righteousness unto salvation is only through Jesus, faith that He will impute & impart His perfect righteousness to all who believe:

    "...not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith." v9.

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    This was the stumbling block for many of Paul's brethren, who still trusted in themselves for righteousness, and who believed they were saved by their works, of which example Paul cites the ceremonial law of circumcision found in the book of the law.

    Notice nowhere in Philippians nor any of Paul's writings does he teach us to stop keeping the Ten Commandments, because if we kept them then we would be guilty of trying to establish our own righteousness!

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    What DOES Paul call it when we break one of God's commandments? Paul calls breaking one of the Ten Commandments SIN:

    "Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin." Rom 3:20

    "What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.” Rom 7:7.

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    The law, God's Spiritual law (Rom 7:14), the Ten Commandments, define what constitutes sin.

    The law, the law of Moses, the book of the law, do not anymore tell us what constitutes sin.

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    Paul never equates a person's establishing their own righteousness with their keeping of His Commandments. Paul is not saying "stop trying to establish your own righteousness by being truthful (9th), faithful (7th), and by putting Me first in your lives (1st)".

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    This example exposes obvious error, yet there is one Commandment which many have been led to hate so much that in the above example they do not find ridiculous at all, but totally fitting, to their shame. That shows the depth of misunderstanding of His scripture, and refusal to love Truth.

  • @Nirky

    You have been led to believe that people hate them. But if I were to ask you if you hate circumcision, what would you say?

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    The second aspect of righteousness is the righteous way the saved act in response to righteous Jesus living in them (Col 1:27):

    "For the ways of the LORD are right; The righteous walk in them, But transgressors stumble in them." Hosea 14:9

  • @Myhopeisinhim

    "not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother’s righteous." 1 Jn 3:12

    "And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints." Rev 19:8

    When we let the perfect and righteous mind of Christ be in us (Phil 2:5), we act the same righteous way as Jesus acts.

  • We worship on sunday not account of what the Romans did to the Jews and Christians. But because the apostles met together on the Lord's Day, the first day of the week, this became tradition, and we continue to do that.

  • @Jman5247

    I agree, tradition is all that Sunday "sanctity" is.

    Neither Jesus, nor Paul, nor Peter, nor John, nor Luke, nor Matthew, nor James give any instruction whatsoever concerning the first day of the week as being a new day of worship.

    In contrast to today, the early church, as Paul, kept the seventh day holy, the LORD's day, according to the commandment. Gen 2:2-3, Mark 2:27-27, Rev 1:10, Acts 13:16, Acts 13:42, Acts 13:44, Acts 16:13, Acts 17:2, Acts 18:4.

  • @Nirky Either way, does it really matter when you worship God, as long as it is one day out of the week? Since in the bible until the NT it says nothing about Saturday being the 7th day. Not in Genesis at least.

  • @Jman5247

    Yes! It matters in the most significant way.

    The seventh day points to Jesus as our Creator (Genesis chapters 1 & 2, Revelation 14:7) and Redeemer (Hebrews chapter 4). Jesus made the Sabbath in a perfect & sinless world, blessed & sanctified it, which means He set it apart for holy use. Our use.

  • @Nirky Saying that it has to be on the 5th day or the 7th day is bordering legalism and I thought that through Jesus we are now under Grace instead of the Law. So as long as we keep his commandment and observe a day out of the week no matter when and do these things on that day and rest and give thanks to God and worship him. That should be OK, should it not? Also in Genesis it does not say what day the 7th day fell on, it could be any day in the week. The Jews only made Saturday the 7th day.

  • @Jman5247

    I already answered your first & second points.

    As for your idea "we don't know what day the seventh day is", Jesus does, and did when He came to this world. Jesus not only knew what day He blessed & sanctified for man as a memorial of His creation, and kept it, He showed the spiritual meaning of the LORD's day, a day not for legalistic man-made rules, but for worshiping God in spirit & truth, and doing good to others.

  • @Jman5247

    It's the only day of the week which He tells us has His very presence in. Gen 2:2-3. We worship Him every day, but the seventh day we set aside our normal activities and instead spend the day thinking & speaking of His ways. Isa 58:13

    Any love relationship requires quality time. He wants us to meet Him every seventh day for that special time. That's why it is His 4th commandment, because of His love to be with us. We show our love back to Him when we keep it. John 14:15.

  • The question should be, "When, did the heathen embrace the law or were ever put under the law by Jews, who had the law and were under the law?" The ever warning to heathen believers was, GAL 2:15-21 When did Paul ever, ever, admonish the heathen believer to worship solely on SABBATH (Satur Day) and not on their, Sun Day, Mon Day, Tues Day, etc. Where is the obvious WARNING of SABBATH keeping to the heathen converts to Christ? Answer: "It doesn't exist because they were never put under the law."

  • @JONAH222NCSGAZ

    You are confusing justification (Galatians chapter 2-righteousness by faith alone in Jesus) with sanctification--how a justified believer walks with Christ.

    In Galatians chapter 2 where you reference, Paul is showing that no work of the law can make one just before a holy and just God, whether it be the shadowy ceremonial sacrificial law which included circumcision, or His eternal spiritual law (Rom 7:14), the Ten Commandments. Only faith in His righteousness justifies.

  • @JONAH222NCSGAZ

    We need Christ's righteousness credited to our account (justification) because we have ALL sinned and have fallen short of God's glory. Rom 3:23. Even if by His grace I do not sin from now until His coming, I am still far short of His glory and need Jesus' perfect righteousness credited to me. Righteousness ONLY by faith.

    As for how the justified walk with Jesus, look no further than Paul. Did He keep the 4th commandment? Acts 13:14, Acts 13:44, Acts 16:13, Acts 17:2, Acts 18:4

  • This is real truth. You can ask your minister just like I did or better yet, show them this video. It's not only the Bible but history proves it!!!!!!

  • Very well done.

  • Actually the first Lord's supper occured on a Thursday, in the upper room.

    The only record in God's word of early christians coming together to break bread?

    Acts 20:7

    And upon the first of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread..

    Luke uses the word Sabbaton here referring to a Sunday? How can that be?

    Because Christ became the sabbath, all the law is fulfilled in Him.

    Anyone who thinks they keep the law is calling God a liar.

  • Acts 20:7 KJV: "And upon the first day of the week..."

    Greek: mian Sabbaton

    literal: one day of the Sabbaths

    translation: first day of the week

    Matt 28:1 KJV: "In the end of the Sabbath..."

    Greek: opse de Sabbaton

    literal: evening yet of Sabbaths

    translation: In the end of the Sabbath

    So Bible authors used the Sabbath, the seventh day of the weekly cycle, to be the basis of naming the days of the week.

  • Bible authors differentiate between the seventh day Sabbath, Saturday, from the first day of the week, Sunday:

    "Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb." Matt 28:1

    The Gospel of Matthew was written over 20 years after Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection. There is not an inkling that Jesus nor His disciples changed the day He made for us as His free gift, the Lord's Day. Gen 2:2-3, Mk 2:27-28, Rev 1:10

  • Lam 4:8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick...Jer 8:21For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am black; astonishment hath taken hold on me

  • John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    [16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

    If we obey him he will send his spirit upon us, if we deny him like Cain did, Satan will have power over you and lead you to destruction!!

  • Isn't it amazing that the Church of Laodicea is the one mentioned in Revelation that the Lord will VOMIT UP! (Modern translations say 'spew out'... but the original text directly translated says VOMIT UP!) Can you imagine just How disgusted our Lord is with this lukewarm Apostate Church which is neither cold nor hot? Who contaminated the Body of Christ with Paganism?

    G-d have mercy!!!

  • Amen! Have a blessed Sabbath! You know your Bible, thanks for sharing.

  • It's very interesting to know from yours ! Thabk you for sharng .

    nutier

  • Amen I agree the commandments of God and Jesus are meant to be keep!!! God Bless yall.

  • where did Paul say you must change the day and keep Sunday (a pagan and papal tradition)?

  • hi!

    in his writings Paul never says explicitly to keep the Sabbath, but that doesn't mean we are free to break the 10 Commandments (he never says don't take mind-altering drugs--that doesn't mean we are free to do it). Sabbath is one of the 10 Commandments like "don't murder" and "don't steal"--you break any one of the 10 and you break them all (James 2:10). Sabbath is a huge blessing when received through faith in the scriptures.

  • In Christ's own words; John 14:15 If ye love Me, keep My Commandments. Rev.22:14 Blessed are they that do His Commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. AMEN!

  • The 7th day Sabbath/rest, is a sign of our special relationship with God/YHWH as His redeemed ppl. Keeping it demonstrates our allegiance to Him and is a sign of His covenant with us. It is a time for communing with God/YHWH and doing good.

  • The beneficent Creator, after the 6 days of Creation, rested on the 7th day and instituted the Sabbath for all ppl as a memorial of Creation. The 4th command of God's unchangeable law requires the observance of this 7th Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and 1 another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification. continued-

  • The 7th day is a token of our allegiance, and a forecast of our eternal future in Gods Kingdom. The Sabbath is God's perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His ppl. Joyful observance of this Holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God's creative and redemptive  acts. My Savior has written His laws into my mind and into my heart. I have a personal relationship with my Lord and Savior. I delight in all of His precepts.

  • I worship and obey my Savior every day, 24/7/365. His Sabbath is a day of resting totally in Him, a day to honor Him and His creation. A day that He set aside for us to take a break away from this evil world, and spend quality time with Him. If I rested in Yeshua every day, I would be a lazy person, and I could not work if I keep His 7 day rest all the time. Yeshua is in my heart, mind, soul and spirit always. I am sorry that you do not understand what the 7th day rest is about.

  • You need to read the book of Acts my friend.

  • Acts 14:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

  • The Gentiles wanted to hear Paul,they were not forced.Why do you keep saying that they were under the law.Love is why I follow my Savior Yeshua.I want to be close to Yeshua.I do not care about these things that you are trying to say about me. I love Yeshua and that is how and why I follow and hear His commands. There is a war going on and we are caught in the middle. So, I stay with my Heavenly Father. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities. I love Yeshua...

  • You are only under the law if you break them.

  • Matt.11:28 Yeshua is talking about giving rest away from the pharisees ceremonial laws and ordinances that they had added to His 4th command, which they had forced on His ppl in those days. If you read all of Matt. you will see that He is talking about the works of those pharisees had forced on His babes, and that He will give them rest away from the forced man-made ceremonial ordinances. You are taking verses out of context. You should read the entire book of Matt.

  • You know what, I refuse to have any more discussion with you, because my precious Heaven Father lives in me. I know my Savior and He loves me and I love Him, and I obey Him in all of His commands. I have been reading and studying Scripture for 20 years now every day; sometimes for 7 hours I pray and study His Word. I do not care about what you say. Hey, thank you for your time my friend. John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. I keep all 10, and all I care about is my Savior. Stay safe.

  • I only follow Yeshua! I do not observe any times. Only Yesuha's 10 commandments. The first 4 commandments are how to know, love and be with our Savior, and they are 1 command and the last 6 are for us to how we are to treat our brothers and sisters in this world, and this is the 2nd command. I pray that you have a blessed rest in our Heavenly Father.

  • Amen!

  • Faithbound213~Hi dear, yea, I have a personal relationship with my Savior. I love Him so much that I follow and obey His commands. It is easy and a joy, because I love Him so!

  • Faithbound213~Love is what motivates me in all that I do. YHWH made all life in His 1st 6 days and on the 7th day, He just created a day (7thday) to rest in and to Worship and commune with Him. There are 10 commands, however He has broken the 10 down to 2. 1-4 are for us to love our God, and 6-10 are how we are to love our brothers and sisters. It's that simply; Love your God with all that you are. And to love your brothers and sisters with all that you have. Love knows no boundaries or times...

  • @PrayerisLoveinaction I couldn't have said it any better than this. God bless you for your blessed words.

  • @Lulu4Him~Amen my blessed sister, Amen!

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  • PrayerisLoveinaction-That was very well said and means a lot to me, the 7 day Sabbath is a sign of our special relationship with our Father God and a day to commune with Him. We get to rest from this evil world and be with our Father and His other children. Pray, sing, dine, fellowship and doing good for and to others. Praise to our Most High!

  • Prayer-Hey sis, I see that you tried to share in God's Truth here to theheat151. That guy attacks and tries to argue with anyone that obeys Christ's commandments. Keep doing what your doing sis. You are blessed with Christ's Love sweetie.

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