Good comeback, shame it hasn't applied to professional darts for over a decade now. It's the classic 'straw man' fallacy - you pick the worse aspect, and assume it applies to the whole game. Anyone who's ever watched a tournament knows the majority of players these days look after themselves, but don't let facts get in the way of an uninformed and poorly-written rant.
Your opinion is worthless.
Sincerely,
anyone who understands darts, one of the most difficult games in the world.
Must be said...that record's hardly likely to be broken by anyone else...until January 2010 when Taylor will rip whoever else makes the Final with him!
bdo players are not in the same league as the pdc boys are and if ted the count hankey is so sure on beating the power why dont he play him for nothing /////////////////
going from sky darts coverage to bbc darts coverage was sooooo boring. the standard that the bdo have is nowhere near what the pdc deliver.
Besides, the grand slam of darts is where both parties slug it out and who reaches the final??? pdc players, not the bdo. The only element missing in the pdc is gary anderson. Need him over to complete the bill so to speak. Taylor has won it twice since its inception with both finalists being pdc boys. proof the pdc is better than the bdo.
Phil Taylor earned over the last 12 months £664,639. Raymond van Barneveld £210,237 Top 10 Earners BDO Ted Hankey £98,915 Gary Anderson £53,665 Martin Adams £38,624 Tony O Shea £37,365 Darryl Fitton £26,371 Mark Webster £21,115 Simon Whitlock £17,782 Brian Woods £12,364 Gary Robson £11,197 Garry Thompson England £8,811
And has anyone noticed that all the trebles look a lot bigger on these boards?
When I watched Hankey in the last tournament held he threw quite a few 180's and all three darts were crammed into a tiny piece of the board.
In this they're spaced apart AND he still has room to spare. Now what's that all about? Is the quality of the PDC so shit that they have to resort to using bigger boards? Blimey, talk about cheek!
Snooker is so finished, in the past few years darts has been so much better there was alot of talk in the masters snooker this week, people saying in various news articles claiming that snooker is dead and in my opinion maybe it is when you compare it to darts, this week i heard stephen maguire complaining about the pdc's and bdo's prize money. basically what he was getting at was that snooker is a more skilled game and the £125.000 + £95.000 is far too much for a darts champion.
Can someone please tell me what the tournamnet averages were for both the BDO and PDC. Suely this will give us an overall average of the standard, and fairl compare which is better. Obviously The power is the best by far, but I was slightly shocked to hear the fact about the wires being different. I sthis rally true? If it is, then we are talking about different sports altogether - bit like rugby league/union.
the trebles and doubles are the same on both boards.the pdc had 17 averages over 95 and the bdo only had 5.you just have to look at the line up of players to realise which one is the best.
+100 averages when he played in the BDO. Even at Lakeside he had one of these games. In 1990! This guy is amazing. Nearly 20 years at the top. And when he won a BDO major in Holland (World Darts Trophy 2006) he won vs BDO poster boy in the final 7-2. His average was 102,21. Martin Adams averaged 94,77. Taylor averaged in 5 games - 4times above 100.
Highest average was 106,98. So I say the boards dont make a difference.
bigpaulothe1st i am not someone who argues which world championship is better i could'nt care less darts is darts and i am a big darts fan, but i've got to say, was'nt there an actually a pub player in the first round of the pdc?
can someone translate what schusterlehring is saying.all of them were held in the u.k.?no player in the final could score at least one perfect game which is not so difficult? so the level is quite low? average players with no excellent scores?lol.mate i cant imagin to think of what drugs you take but they work and i want some cus you are insane
pdc is much better got the best players more money more tv championships this years world championship had so many gd games in it but wat i think they sud do pdc n bdo join up
neh coz thn we wud get shit players in the pdc , thts y bdo is not as gd as pdc n thts y players move coz all da best r in pdc so we wud see sum borin matches if bdo joined up , apart frm gary anderson coz hes mint , TAYLOR FTW!
The PDC World Championship is undoubtably the better run of the two (albeit the BDO World Championship has the longer and more respected lineage), but that doesn't mean it sees the best play. 2003, 2005 and 2007 were much better for the PDC than the BDO, but 2004 (excluding the finals, since Taylor/Painter easily beat Fordham/King), 2006 and 2008 were undeniably the BDO's years. It's alternated nicely, I feel.
ALL of them were held in the UK, and all of them had no (!) player in the final that could score at least one perfrct game, which is not so difficult.
So the level is quite low and I would prefer to clarify things:
These r average players with no excellent scores and they should not be allowed to claim a World title.
I agree, the PDC is a joke and is a shambles of the Darts world.
That's why it's held on Sky, because no one else would show it: The BDO is prestigious and something to be respected if you manage to take the title. The PDC is "oooooh money let me go chase it!!!!"
What r u taking about u idiot. phil taylor avereged 110 in this match, the highest average ever in a major final. Don't give an opinion when it is obvious u don't know what ure talking about.
No it's not. There were only two really good matches the entire tournament - Nicholson/Lewis and Barneveld/Baxter. The BDO's tournament has already had three excellent matches, and they've only just completed the first round. As far as i'm concerned, they're both capable of having amazing years.
the thing is though that's phil taylor with those averages, the greatest player ever, did co stompe get high averages or kevin painter or anybody else for example. Why are you having a go at the bdo it was great this year.
17 thats seventeen players in the pdc world championship averaged 95+
only 5 thats five players in the bdo world championship averaged 95+.and you have the stupidity to say the players in the pdc are rubbish.buy sky and you will find out.
BDO had 4 BDO world champions (Hankey,Adams, Webster, Walton) in this years event.
PDC had 5 BDO world champions (Taylor 2x, Part, Barneveld 4x, Klaasen, Priestley) in this years PDC world championships. Funny how igonorant you are ;-)
the bdo is nothing short of a fucking laughing stock.the first round was full of useless guys who looked like pub players.and for hankey too go around calling himself the best darts player in the world is totally embarrassing.get a grip on reality.buy sky and watch the real players.
you are off your head if you think that the doubles and trebles are bigger on the unicorn boards.i have both winmau blade 3 and unicorn eclipse and i have measured the area inside the doubles and trebles and it is identical.
the way the cameras are focussed on the board makes the pdc treble twenty look bigger-i will not argue with that because i noticed it myself.but take it from me they are the same size.these dartboards are checked thoroughly before each match.
in the grand slam of darts they all play on the same board and its been an all pdc final in both years , so dont go blaming the boards on the bdo being shite.
The PDC is full of Garbage players John MaGowan '67 years old' Chris Mason Kevin Painter Co Stompe Wayne Mardle Peter Manley Adrian Lewis Ronnie Baxter - There's plenty more too. All crap players. Without Phil Taylor the PDC has nothing!! The fact that Phil Taylor faced the likes of Co Stompe and Kevin Painter on the way to the final says everything, inferior opposition. Most of the PDC is made up of awful players who have achieved nowt.
if barney threw like he did against klaaasen he wouldn't have lost with 7-1
ronaldinhoakka3000 7 months ago
i rather barney as a dart thrower because taylor is a brick
GRAT1001 10 months ago
taylor is shit!!!!
bobladanga 1 year ago
Taylor owns Barney forever now!
SrWilson3s 1 year ago
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anthonybussen 1 year ago
1:59 wtf?
CacajaoCalvus 1 year ago
@CacajaoCalvus 1:58*
CacajaoCalvus 1 year ago
Legend!
Christonamotorcycle 2 years ago
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yhandballer 1 year ago
@yhandballer
You are!
Christonamotorcycle 1 year ago
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the most shit boring HOBBY that has ever been televised..yes i said hobby..darts is no more a sport than fishing...........
newworldman123 2 years ago
don't watch it then, simple..
swettybettybob 2 years ago
So ignorant it's tragic.
LoafOfPint 2 years ago
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i agree.........fat sweaty blokes and their fat sweaty wives and assorted lemmings...terrible.
newworldman123 2 years ago
Good comeback, shame it hasn't applied to professional darts for over a decade now. It's the classic 'straw man' fallacy - you pick the worse aspect, and assume it applies to the whole game. Anyone who's ever watched a tournament knows the majority of players these days look after themselves, but don't let facts get in the way of an uninformed and poorly-written rant.
Your opinion is worthless.
Sincerely,
anyone who understands darts, one of the most difficult games in the world.
LoafOfPint 2 years ago
tylor wins again vs the wizzard
boerakker15 2 years ago
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planet funk chase the sun
Keithtwo 2 years ago
whats the song between each set?
sammygh11 2 years ago
Chase the Sun
iamn0tlv3 2 years ago
PHIL THE POWER TAAAYLOR!
cokeadict619 2 years ago 2
taylor en otro mundo el puto amo
lamonja1234 2 years ago
barney is a brilliant incredible player
but , phil is just a living legend and on a different level to anyone - ever
pure genius
flappospammo 2 years ago 10
taylor = 10 times better than barney
josh030494 2 years ago
no he is not ;)
boerakker15 2 years ago
have you got the whole match?
tatianasdaddy 2 years ago
this average is impressiv!!!
capitano95 2 years ago 2
2 of the best dart players ever!
pumpernickle323 2 years ago 3
Must be said...that record's hardly likely to be broken by anyone else...until January 2010 when Taylor will rip whoever else makes the Final with him!
BigDaveyDB 2 years ago 3
real king of the king...
trekkerzz 2 years ago 2
Barney All The Way!
jakeyboy987 2 years ago
I love Phil. He's just a phenomenal human being whose pure talent is amazing. To me, a 17-year-old boy, he's the best sportsman of all time.
1992Colster 2 years ago 12
Right on matey. A true 100% legend.
Peace
markyboy890 2 years ago
bdo players are not in the same league as the pdc boys are and if ted the count hankey is so sure on beating the power why dont he play him for nothing /////////////////
01582477387 2 years ago
going from sky darts coverage to bbc darts coverage was sooooo boring. the standard that the bdo have is nowhere near what the pdc deliver.
Besides, the grand slam of darts is where both parties slug it out and who reaches the final??? pdc players, not the bdo. The only element missing in the pdc is gary anderson. Need him over to complete the bill so to speak. Taylor has won it twice since its inception with both finalists being pdc boys. proof the pdc is better than the bdo.
navster180 3 years ago
wooo barney all da way!
PuddleDolphin12345 3 years ago
tubemaster1109 that just proves what the pdc is all about.....money, money , money
kingelnino9 3 years ago
Taylor is with no doubt the best dart player ever
goodheaven555 3 years ago
tubemaster1109 3 years ago
Forgot -Scott Waites £32,047
tubemaster1109 3 years ago
taylor hit the over gear
CTJ893 3 years ago
And has anyone noticed that all the trebles look a lot bigger on these boards?
When I watched Hankey in the last tournament held he threw quite a few 180's and all three darts were crammed into a tiny piece of the board.
In this they're spaced apart AND he still has room to spare. Now what's that all about? Is the quality of the PDC so shit that they have to resort to using bigger boards? Blimey, talk about cheek!
Ranklescher 3 years ago
Snooker is so finished, in the past few years darts has been so much better there was alot of talk in the masters snooker this week, people saying in various news articles claiming that snooker is dead and in my opinion maybe it is when you compare it to darts, this week i heard stephen maguire complaining about the pdc's and bdo's prize money. basically what he was getting at was that snooker is a more skilled game and the £125.000 + £95.000 is far too much for a darts champion.
5eurocups2005 3 years ago
Can someone please tell me what the tournamnet averages were for both the BDO and PDC. Suely this will give us an overall average of the standard, and fairl compare which is better. Obviously The power is the best by far, but I was slightly shocked to hear the fact about the wires being different. I sthis rally true? If it is, then we are talking about different sports altogether - bit like rugby league/union.
Cobain38 3 years ago
the trebles and doubles are the same on both boards.the pdc had 17 averages over 95 and the bdo only had 5.you just have to look at the line up of players to realise which one is the best.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
barneveld is finished
kingelnino9 3 years ago
no he is not. he was superb , only beaten by the genius of taylor . he could beat hankey 7 - 0 easy.are u jordan?
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
Interesting that Taylor also had fantastic
+100 averages when he played in the BDO. Even at Lakeside he had one of these games. In 1990! This guy is amazing. Nearly 20 years at the top. And when he won a BDO major in Holland (World Darts Trophy 2006) he won vs BDO poster boy in the final 7-2. His average was 102,21. Martin Adams averaged 94,77. Taylor averaged in 5 games - 4times above 100.
Highest average was 106,98. So I say the boards dont make a difference.
tubemaster1109 3 years ago
you tell him mate.
kingelnino9 is living in the past.
he can not accept that bdo darts is second rate.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
bigpaulothe1st i am not someone who argues which world championship is better i could'nt care less darts is darts and i am a big darts fan, but i've got to say, was'nt there an actually a pub player in the first round of the pdc?
5eurocups2005 3 years ago
is it true that the pdc use very thin wires on there dart boards?
5eurocups2005 3 years ago
i have got sky tv,then i would'nt be saying this other wise
kingelnino9 3 years ago
cool video how do you download it ?
Sko24 3 years ago
He is the best nobody is better then this guy really amazing how easy he trough!
philtaylor1111111111 3 years ago
Тэйлор молодец,так держать!!!Ждём новых побед и новых зрелищных моментов!!!Ура!!!
egorka007 3 years ago
wat a man...1 ov da best sports men around!!
Cockel100 3 years ago
can someone translate what schusterlehring is saying.all of them were held in the u.k.?no player in the final could score at least one perfect game which is not so difficult? so the level is quite low? average players with no excellent scores?lol.mate i cant imagin to think of what drugs you take but they work and i want some cus you are insane
scousejimmy1 3 years ago
no,london,alexandra palace
laberkarl 3 years ago
was this held in Dublin?
merro05 3 years ago
Simply the greatest darts player that will ever grace the oche. His record is unbelievable. 14 times world champion. Says it all!!
CelticStu1888 3 years ago
correct.a total genius
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
pdc is much better got the best players more money more tv championships this years world championship had so many gd games in it but wat i think they sud do pdc n bdo join up
carlbudd1988 3 years ago
neh coz thn we wud get shit players in the pdc , thts y bdo is not as gd as pdc n thts y players move coz all da best r in pdc so we wud see sum borin matches if bdo joined up , apart frm gary anderson coz hes mint , TAYLOR FTW!
dgoddardLP 3 years ago
The PDC World Championship is undoubtably the better run of the two (albeit the BDO World Championship has the longer and more respected lineage), but that doesn't mean it sees the best play. 2003, 2005 and 2007 were much better for the PDC than the BDO, but 2004 (excluding the finals, since Taylor/Painter easily beat Fordham/King), 2006 and 2008 were undeniably the BDO's years. It's alternated nicely, I feel.
LoafOfPint 3 years ago
PDC must be Pub darts world championship.
ALL of them were held in the UK, and all of them had no (!) player in the final that could score at least one perfrct game, which is not so difficult.
So the level is quite low and I would prefer to clarify things:
These r average players with no excellent scores and they should not be allowed to claim a World title.
schusterlehrling 3 years ago
Shutup.
lennard 3 years ago
Little moron.
LoafOfPint 3 years ago
taylor is an average player? lol
bladeslaya 3 years ago
how is he lol
carlbudd1988 3 years ago
u dnt no wat ur chatin about phil taylor is the best in darts there is every was n ever will b u must b drunk or on drugs
carlbudd1988 3 years ago
agreed
DLPBurke 3 years ago
I agree, the PDC is a joke and is a shambles of the Darts world.
That's why it's held on Sky, because no one else would show it: The BDO is prestigious and something to be respected if you manage to take the title. The PDC is "oooooh money let me go chase it!!!!"
Ranklescher 3 years ago
Wow you need a reality check. And when is the BDO again on TV? In november 2009 ;-)))
2 micky mouse events all year lol.
Setanta dropped the Grand Prix.
Beside all the great events on Sky the PDC has 3 events on ITV.
tubemaster1109 3 years ago
What r u taking about u idiot. phil taylor avereged 110 in this match, the highest average ever in a major final. Don't give an opinion when it is obvious u don't know what ure talking about.
goykur 2 years ago
best British sportsman ever
wolf99000 3 years ago
they seem to have more fun in the P.D.C. crowd going nuts after every set.
rotcorpx 3 years ago
legend so much better than the bdo
hamlinky 3 years ago
No it's not. There were only two really good matches the entire tournament - Nicholson/Lewis and Barneveld/Baxter. The BDO's tournament has already had three excellent matches, and they've only just completed the first round. As far as i'm concerned, they're both capable of having amazing years.
LoafOfPint 3 years ago
you say this but the pdc had 10 averages over 100,the bdo has not had any yet and probably wont.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
taylors tournament average 105
bdo champion will be lucky to have a 91 tournament average
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago 2
the thing is though that's phil taylor with those averages, the greatest player ever, did co stompe get high averages or kevin painter or anybody else for example. Why are you having a go at the bdo it was great this year.
kingelnino9 3 years ago
fact-17 players in pdc event averaged 95+ 5 players in bdo event averaged 95+
so you see its not just taylor,the standard is way higher on pdc circuit.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
The PDC wire on the boards are much thinner making the doubles and trebles bigger and easier target. Check it out, you will notice.
The PDC just seems to be made up of the same old familiar garbage players who have did nothing.
How about world titles!! Players who actually achieve things!!
The BDO has way more individual world champions in there cirucit!!
kingelnino9 3 years ago
fact
17 thats seventeen players in the pdc world championship averaged 95+
only 5 thats five players in the bdo world championship averaged 95+.and you have the stupidity to say the players in the pdc are rubbish.buy sky and you will find out.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
BDO had 4 BDO world champions (Hankey,Adams, Webster, Walton) in this years event.
PDC had 5 BDO world champions (Taylor 2x, Part, Barneveld 4x, Klaasen, Priestley) in this years PDC world championships. Funny how igonorant you are ;-)
tubemaster1109 3 years ago
I think bigpaulothe 1st ment since the split.
gurgless 3 years ago
the bdo is nothing short of a fucking laughing stock.the first round was full of useless guys who looked like pub players.and for hankey too go around calling himself the best darts player in the world is totally embarrassing.get a grip on reality.buy sky and watch the real players.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
I wouldn't really count Dennis Priestly as a top player anymore.
And as for you argument regarding Averages, i suggest you type into Google.
'Unicorn Eclipse Bristle Dartboard - PDC Championship Board'
Then pick the first site
Is clearly states 'Designed to maximise averages'
The BDO use a traditional Winmau dartboard and play the game properly.
The PDC clearly use a thinner dartboard to boost average's. You can't tell me the likes of Kevin Painter are suddenly great !!
kingelnino9 3 years ago
you are off your head if you think that the doubles and trebles are bigger on the unicorn boards.i have both winmau blade 3 and unicorn eclipse and i have measured the area inside the doubles and trebles and it is identical.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
I've watched both tournaments and can notice a clear difference in the dartboards.
And of course you just happen to have both dartboards and have measured them....yeah right!!
kingelnino9 3 years ago
the way the cameras are focussed on the board makes the pdc treble twenty look bigger-i will not argue with that because i noticed it myself.but take it from me they are the same size.these dartboards are checked thoroughly before each match.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
i actually do have both boards . i play darts .
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
in the grand slam of darts they all play on the same board and its been an all pdc final in both years , so dont go blaming the boards on the bdo being shite.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
Gary anderson had an average of 105.65 in the semi finals of the grand slam.
No suprise that when he uses PDC boards Gary Anderson excelled.
kingelnino9 3 years ago
no he didnt excell , he got beat in the semi final by terry jenkins(a pdc pro)
pdc = the only place to be
bdo = a joke.
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
is your name jordan?
bigpaulothe1st 3 years ago
kingelnino9 3 years ago
how can you compare them, only gary anderson could compete. You must not watch alot o darts
hamlinky 3 years ago