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  • Microsoft, more like microdick!

  • Yeah... Windows sucks. No wonder Steve Jobs is the richest man on earth, and almost everybody has a Mac computer, that's great and light and trendy, even though it does the same things as PC's and is twice as expensive. And if you own a PC, you actually own your computer and can do whatever you want with it, but if you own a Mac and put a new OS on it, it gets shut down! Because Apple can make decisions better than us!

  • who ever made this video should be shot, only fags buy apple

  • i will admit windows vista isnt all that good (depending on the version of it and how you use it and your hardware configuration) but the upcoming windows seven will fix everything wrong with vista and destroy mac. and i would know cause i am a windows 7 ultimate release candidate user. not only that, but win 7 actually requires fewer system requirements than vista.

  • What sums up Vista being good or not is what your computer system consists of. If it has more then 4 GB of RAM with Direct X 10 Vista 64 bit is your best choice. If you got Less then 3 GB of RAM with a Direct X 9 Card Then Windows XP is the better choice. Now the fact is Microsoft is #1 and Windows is just taking all the bullets for Apple. If Apple was #1 well you would see a ton more virus and hackers that will target Apple computers. So all you Apple fans should be very happy Windows exists.

  • Microsoft dumber than I though. They made the long verison shorter.

    Well I saw 6-7 Anti-Vista pictures, with some shitty music. Now I really want to hear your honest opinion towards Vista, what makes it Fail? Because every Vista hater I talked to doesn't actually understand what they are talking about.

  • NOOB

    that was crap

    my grandma can make much better

  • mac and linux are solely defended by those who think that one has to be a computer literate to use a computer. MS allowed everyone to be able to use it. that is the primary difference between companies that most of you, MS attackers, refuse to acknowledge. and to those who criticize bill gates about the money he makes with closed source, ask steve jobs and linus thorvald how much money did they gave to make the world better.

  • nope.

    try again.

  • long live apple. after one week oh the iphone release, apple had to send an update to correct over 200 errors of the iphone. but that didn't work, so they pulled back the first release of the iphone from the market due to too many errors . ololololol

    MS allowed everyone to use a PC. not everybody is instructed in programming to build their own drivers and program instalation routines to use linux, or rich enough to use mac. just compare the prices between MS and apple products.

  • So basically if microsoft didn't exist, jesus would be here to save us all right?

    Idiot

  • Oh stop your nagging! This video does not make any sense! If you really hate windows, just don't use it. Go write your own OS if you can and use it. Or use Linux. Bill is a businessman and if you were in his place, I think you'd not give a rat's ass to anyone else than yourself

  • Mac Fans attack.... haha, don't worry we have firewall, I don't want to waste money on a Mac and Leotard in which I can't play all the great games, or use Visual Studio or all those free great apps, and non free ones that rarely can find on Mac. but I 'm not against Mac, I can buy it as a hobby, but never switch to it, as it cannot replace PC. Linux is more important to me than Mac Leotard.

    --long time computer user and programmer

  • "instead of the Microsoft oligopy" hahaha! Try learning the word before using it. haha!

  • i am sinking that you are a huge apple fanboy. also, i sink that you should read less blogs. windows will NOT bluescreen unless a user(or a software developer) fucks it up. you make absolutely no sense. you should have sinked before saying that it would be much better if ms didnt exist. you are just a narrowminded geek that closes his eyes on all mac problems just to blame it all on microsoft.

  • lol, apple kiss-ass, although, you do raise a point in asking the question on how much more , newer things would be out there had Microsoft not taken over everything.

  • u realise if there was no microsoft, apples would be even more overpriced than they are now?

  • He has a nerd lisp.

  • Were you sucking on an Apple when you made this video?

  • Your right... if we only had an open source software operating system that everyone could work on... OH WAIT WE DO it's called LINUX and it's been SOooooo successful, I'm so glad that if I have an issue with Linux that there are 100's of tens of one guy in Chicago that can help me! Or wait, what if we had a system that NO ONE could program in unless you paid a HUGE royalty... oops again... that's MAC... At the end of the day, QUIT HATING... MSFT has build a product that we can all use - yea BG!

  • yeah, imagine if there were more competition with 100's of operating systems to choose from. Everyone in the world using a different OS. Yeah that's the way to get things done.

  • think of how much sooner you could have made a video about vista if they never even came out with vista to waste so much of your time.

  • fucking retarded... you don't know shit about anything, stop posting blog videos

  • you chat crap go hang yourself

  • What is the point of this video? 1 min. 22 sec. of time wasted...

  • your voice annoys me

  • *sigh*

    If MS wasn't around whoever was next on IBM's list for OS supplier for the IBM PC would be our Microsoft.

    It could of been the Digital Research, the company behind CP/M, and Gary Kildall would be regarded as the devil.

    We would have OS competition of Stallman made it to IBM in 1980 with a complete GNU OS, but he started working on it in 1984 and a stable OS (Linux) came of it in 1991.

    Too little, too late. If you want to blame anyone, blame IBM. IBM's monopoly brought this upon you.

  • Go play some dungeons and dragons.

  • Yep...Microsoft kill your grandpa.

  • How annoying when uneducated people try to sound knowledgeable on a subject, using bigger words they can handle, etc so you are an engineer? rightttttttttttttttttttttttttt­ttttt

  • Vista owns Mac... end of discussion

  • stfu

  • wow...... life well spent.

  • Does the wasted 10% of your time include making lame whining videos to post on YouTube?

  • Last time I checked macs were pc's too right? You call a mac a mac, you call a windows comp a windows comp.

  • thats stupid. windows vista so works. watta noob

  • ur an idiot bud, seriously, u suck at life, and computers/technology in general.

  • NOOB!!

  • This is by far the worst analyst of Microsofts contributions to the tech industries. You take about lots productivity, and it would be better if there was more competition in the OS market. Got news for you friend, I too am a software/electrical eng, and know that Vista is possible the most complex consumer product people will ever buy, EVER! Its amazing Vista works at all! If there where more competition then I would think more people would lose even more time with conflicts between systems.

  • No company is perfect. Microsoft is in the spotlight, not to mention the 'driving seat' and so is a target for blame (a bit like being a politition I guess) . Microsoft doesn't exist in a vacuum and so cannot be blamed for all the faults of the pc industry, let alone the progress of such a complex field as medicine. That better software would contribute to a better world is obvious (at least to me)

  • I sadly don't get all the bad hype about Microsoft...I've built 3 very high end computers, all with Vista Ultimate running, and haven't gotten a single BSOD or shutdown error. I really don't know where you're pulling these ideas from, the real issue is in the user, if the user knows that trojandownloader.exe is bad, they'll have a super-happy fun time on Windows, though if they don't even read the message and click, "Run", then they'll have super happy down time. Quite simple to be honest.

  • Point well made Duncelam, Vista works very well on high end computers. period..

  • N00b poster... try to think about what you're saying, then say it, n00000000000000000000000000000­000000000000000000b !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • your lisps werent supported by one fact friend. i think you can get that fixed :P

  • youf havf a lisp

  • ...

  • Stop whining.

  • Hey dude, if you're so perfect, why don't you build the next perfect software. Development is always bug prone. It doesn't matter if you have the best process, coding standards, or smartest people you idiot. And everyone blames Microsoft becuase they are not perfect. That's so dumb and naive. Hmm does apple have issues with the Iphone? nah right? Your statements do not make you look cool, saavy, smart, or anything but just gay

  • This guy sounds so pathetic, so depressing. Did you live in your basement for the rest of your life and Mac is his sex mate. RIP you moron, retarded, no life son of thousands fleas bitten bittttch.

  • I dont know why people complain about Vista so much. I have had this Operating System since it was released and it work Fine, I have never had an Incompatability problem ever. and it has never crashed on me, not once.

    I dont know why people whyne so much about it. I think Vista is a very good and usefull OS.

  • Here's why. You are not a gamer. You are not a programmer.You are not an engineer. You are not a graphic artist. You are not a digital photographer. You are not... alot of things computers can be used for. Vista is good for two things... Microsoft office applications(that's arguable) and casual internet use. That's about it.

  • Dude you dont even know me. I have been going to ITT-Tech for 2 years studying graphics Multimedia shit and that is the reason why I bought this PC to do my Graphics Shit and I am a programmer I have been programming for fkn 3 yrs in C++ using SDL, OpenGL i have used C#, perl python and other Languages in this same computer and I have like over 10 games in this pc that I play every day. I have never used Word in this PC. and my PC has never fucked up b4. =]

  • Oh the irony...complaining about the company the makes PC's and PC software on a website that was designed using PC's and PC software. Huh, fancy that.

  • Wow, this video was incredibly useful. Because, you know, being bitter about a company and whining about it on the internet is so innovative.

  • If Mac had a kindergarten teacher she would say, "Mac doesn't like to play with the other children" OR "Mac could do much better if he would learn to get along with others." OR "If Mac would stop drawing pictures pay attention in class he could get more done in a day."

    KUDOS to Mac - they have REAL COOL STUFF. I like stuff. I just can't afford it!

  • The only people that spend time rebooting their computers due to crashes are the ones usually causing the problems. He could run OSX, Linux, Solaris or others, but he chose to run windows. If I installed every piece of crap software on all the aforementioned systems, they would crash too. Windows is not perfect, but my XP systems have great uptime and I have minimal issues with the OS. I am not fan of Vista, I like Mac and Linux, they all have their place and are capable.

  • this guys is an idiot

  • Oh man, I can't believe that guy just killed grandpa. Is there no justice?!

  • Nah unlike Apple, Linux is actually useful.

    I and most IT teams I know use MS WITH Linux, usually for storage and SAN solutions.

    Apple simply is useless and always has been just trendy but not much else. This is why people have IT, jobs. They recognize utility... not BS.

  • Give me a break. Wasting your time on fixes is PART OF YOUR JOB! I'm an IT Director for a major law firm in Philly. You need to realize that despite MS power over the last 30 years, there have been competitors that have driven MS to produce more and invent. Guess how many OS would be unique and wouldn't be able to communicate with one another without an inordinate amount of bolt ons. Especially in the medical industry. Wake up and understand the industry and stop being a myopic programmer.

  • Exactly. People expect WAY too much of their computers these days. They are machines. They are not perfect. They have flaws because of the vast capabilities and functions that they have. If you know what you're doing with your computer and you look after it correctly then you're not going to have problems (other than hardware problems, which are inevitable under any OS).

  • Lol. That was so fucking lame.. Bloody linux nerd.. You just can't accept that windows is the most diverse and powerful OS on the market.. Windows drives business these days mate. If any of the others were better, they would be in the position that Microsoft is in now- but they're not! Windows isn't perfect, but neither is Mac OS or Linux, and that's how IT is. It's always developing. Deal with it.

  • For all of the people that slam Gates and praise Mac's , go on out and design a new op system and a new type of computer. Bill and Steve did this years ago with way less technology , we need a fresh Idea in computing. It can be done As far as Vista , it will come along as all other versions of "Windows" The same people complain of each version then the bugs work out. The world is wide open for change.

  • hey thanks for playing off of something funny to confuse people into hearing your bull_shit! :)

  • Idiot Software Engineer

  • this video is more crap than vista

  • Um... brilliant. Microsoft is responsible for things that don't exist: primarily, a *better* operating system. You're an engineer? You see the logical problem with that?

    The people who haven't created, and successfully marketed a better operating system are the ones responsible for one not existing. Hey, you're a software engineer. have you created a better operating system? No? So, I guess that makes YOU responsible. You killed grandpa. Good work, buddy...

  • who is this? some failed conspiracy guy?

    there is no perfect operating system out...

  • You should have really gone to high school for debate, or even high school at that. You make about as much sense as a 2 year old teaching quantum electro-dynamics.

  • I agree that bugs in software prevent some progress in some fields... but I disagree. The amount of progress made with bugs far surpasses the progress we would have made had computer technology progressed as a cautious but perfect rate. Bugs themselves have forced progress to be made in bug-negotiation alone. And you cannot blame a company for having annoying bugs when the alternative would be not having that tech in the first place.

  • Furthermore, too much competition in the software would also cause compatibility issues. Any joe shmoe in his basement could invent the next best computer that would demand complete conversion from one OS to another, and all its hardware. Instead of progress, you would have competition that stifled progress because the field isnt in progressing uniformly. Developers wont be inventing the latest program, theyd be making the latest OS or figuring out how to make the old one work with new ideas.

  • That all being said, I do wish Microsoft would slow down just a bit and fix some issues before creating the next generation of tech. Dissatisfied customers are irrelevant when you have a monopoly on a market. They do appear to be too busy coming up with ideas to stay ahead of competition instead of spending the manpower to correct their own mistakes.

  • This is the worst argument against Micrsoft/Windows I've ever heard.

  • APPLE IS LOOSER...if they are soo good why compare with PC ?

  • To convert all the pc users to mac.

    Idiot.. -.-

  • they only convert old mac to new mac with some colors..they can't replace PC.

  • look at just one app from Apple...iTune ..its soo fucked up, it can't even say which file it can play...if you select some wrong format it takes minutes say "Sorry..." ficked apple...mind your own business don't compare you are cheap..good for kids

  • Windows Vista FTW. If your such a smart ass why dont you save grandpa, Nerd.

  • YAWN!!!

  • Twenty+ years of copying Apple. You'd think they would at least get the fine art of copying figured out by now.

  • Pfft.

    Where are all the corporate workplaces running on Apple servers and using Apple OS's, idiot? I've worked in about 8 different companies, supporting more than 40 different companies, and not one of them had more than a few apple computers.

  • HURAY!! FOR VISTA, fuck this bitch.

  • An idiotic commentary...

    Of course technology has advanced because of Microsoft... Microsoft 3.1 was revolutionary

  • My windows has not crashed since Windows 98, am I doing something wrong?

  • wow, that was the most retaded anti-PC argument ever. with out microsoft companys wouldnt develop software for all of the OS's. instead a new OS that every company designed software for would be needed...oh wait...

  • Damn you're right! And this megolomaniac company also produces game consoles, mp4 players and a robotics platform!

    What other innovation have they not stiffled?

    You must be kidding, even hardcore open source programmers do this on/for windows. Simply because it is one very decent OS. And if you don't like Vista do like me.. use XP SP3 ;-)

  • I run vista very smoothly with 4 gigs of ram. Perfect for gaming and Autocad, (stuff that requires lots of power)

  • Agreed. Even ipods crash (I love my zune, because I CAN hack it, but and ipod has firm limits)

  • dude you can start talking when you don't have a lisp. so why don't you "sthink" about that for a moment.

  • Note: as we don't see you doing ANYTHING to try to make it any better. If you want to complain about an OS. Go to mac OS X or make your own or use linux. There's plenty out there.

  • LOLOLOLOLOL who uses vista to code software anyway DUD!

    SOFTWARE ENGINEERING FAIL

  • if you think you could do better , why you dont create a product ?

    Bill gates tries his best to fit all the people wants ..user friendliness...he cannot satisfy every human being needs.

    But at least, most people use Windows..

    Think if one day there is no window, all business in the wold will stop or at least slows down .

  • What a loser...

  • From the sound of your voice, it sounds like your still working with slow ass legacy systems. You need at least 3 gigs of ram to run Vista. Upgrade, dork!

  • Worst arguments ever. And I don't even like Microsoft? Because of Microsoft's laziness, grandpappy died? Get serious you fucking geek.

  • Did you make that on your PC? I bet you did...

  • You're spot on. Even Macs owe their life to MS. Macs and PCs are both at an evolutionary dead end. Why aren't there wireless fax modems? Why is there no good voice transcription? Why do laptops come with good video but still crappy sound? Why are there still 32-bit apps? I could go on, but ffs. A: mediocrity = profit

  • you sir, are an idiot...

  • you sound like a retard

  • Get a life...

  • Is that Mitch Fatel's voice?

  • I thought this was another episode of Pierre Bernards recliner of rage. (from Conan O'Brien)

  • there is nothing wrong with vista... if microsoft didn't exist computers wouldn't either!

  • Nice work showing your ignorance!

    :D

  • Wow... pretty froth and no substance... You have a good job as a future life-long barista serving starbucks for the rest of your pathetic life...

    Srsly... stfu... get off the windows bashing bandwagon until you have something worth listening to.

    In the meantime, I want my 1:22 back n00b...

  • Since you seem to have issues saying anything of substance, let me break this down into small, simple expressions for you.

    I've used Macs. I've used Windows. Macs OS10 unexpectedly quits way more than Vista crashes. Also, without Microsoft, there would be very few actual application today. Case in-point: Macs use Microsoft Office. PC's do not use Apple Works.

    10% of my time was wasted listening to this video.

  • WHAT? Microsoft's ineptitude? Why don't you go ahead and do something better, apt guy?

    That's ridiculous. If you don't like Vista don't use it, moron.

  • Well, there's a minutes and 22 seconds of my life I'll never get back.

  • plus, the time it took to post?

  • Sounds like you're putting that thesaurus mom got you to good use!

  • if microsoft did not exist, then the world of technology would not be as streamlined and unified as it now stands. even compatibility issues with apple are minor compared to those you would face if the market was flooded with a number of other OS.

    think about this. if every model of cars used a different type of fuel, would it be possible to drive cars like we do? you'd have to take time out of your day to find gas stations that support your model.

  • We'd be stuck with Apple

    GROSS!!!

    if i had a lisp like you, i wouldnt talk, let alone publish my voice on the web.

  • Who knows, maybe the reason why Microsoft has a monopoly in the os arena is because no one can can beat windows for the average user.

    This video is a fail.

  • Phew, for a second, I was afraid I had wasted 1:22 of my life, but this must be sarcasm. Microsoft is one of the biggest support beams of U.S. technology. Every successful corporation hurts people along the way, that's the way the system works, stop whimpering over the casualties and look at the big picture. They've made a bigger impact for good than bad.

  • microsoft killed grampa

  • People say PC like windows owns the rights to "PC" Personal Computer that includes all computers used in homes and offices that are not servers. and you forgot linux, free bsd, IBM, unix, Windows, Macintosh, Solaris and a handful more; are all OSes that can be used to day. So how has windows done this alone. As well you your medical info, that is all made buy hardware and written by the maker not Microsoft. I have seen a "Mac" Crash. I do like the ending tho, clever.

  • he sounds like Linus from the old Charlie Brown cartoons except he is an adult now and so the lisp makes him sound like a retard. "What if" you jutht went out and purchathed a Mac inthtead of a PTheee thince you like them tho much.... Jobs was a crazy hippie (genius) that didn't have the business sense to compete with Gates. He caugh on too late and now Uncle Bill owns part of his company. Great "Job" Steve. (I wish I was half as successful :) )

  • What an ass wipe.

    Windows vista is perfectly stable. Besides, if there was not competition Apple would be shit. We would be stock in the 70s.

    If there was not PC (M$), the world wouldn't have been able to afford computers, the world would not have been able to advance as it is today.

    Any of the stupidities you just said can be used against you.

    I suggest not to talk about something you are totally ignorant about. Stop living in the world of "ifs", that mentality can only take you back

  • 2 part

    Since you live in the pass...

    Do you remember the apple Lisa? how much it cost? Everything changed when IBM/M$ stomped on Apple's overpriced ass.

    You should thank M$ so you can afford your beloved Apple machine.

  • What a retard. Windows works fine, its usually the people who don't like Microsoft for no real reason that create problems just to make them look bad.

  • I listened to maybe 4 seconds before falling asleep. Seriously, you should be on Esurance commercials with that insane level of energy.

  • Ok, MAC sucks ass, and I've had a MAC that crashed as often as Win 98.

    Linux, while much more stable, is fucking impossible to use for a normal person. I'm good with computers, and I've broken linux by 1) installing a font, 2) updating my package manager, 3) doing a routine windows manager update. If you so much as look at linux wrong you end up in dependency hell. Talk about lost productivity.

  • I think the beautiful irony is he says that Microsoft stiffles technology. Yet has much more software, and more hardware developed for it than any other platform.

    How is that stiffling?

    Especially when compared to how Apple locks their product down.

    Doesn't matter what OS you use and what hardware you use, computers will crash.

  • this guy's got it right... but i hate macs and i can't be bothered with a linux based system... windows, the lazy PC users friend.

  • The only problem with that is that Grandpa didn't use or own a computer, so his heart attack couldn't have been from a computer...

    Get a life, retard!

  • Then just get a Mac if you don't like Microsoft. Personally I like Mac better, but I Vista hasn't crashed on me yet. They both have good points and bad points. If you really don't like Microsoft that much, then go get something else and shut up about it. Wow, you can make a video.....OOOOOOHHHHHHH! How about do something productive for a change.

  • this dude sounds liek a FAG

    and i have Vista and it's never crash in the past 13 months ive had it... and work perfect fine...

    the whole "VISTA SUCKS" is just bullshit...

    but retards will be retards soo w/e i guess MAC wins this one because they got soo many people to buy into the whole "Vista is Bad"

  • BRAVO! It is so kewl to hear some sanity spoken once in a while. You hit every nail. (Nice graphics too!)

    If only the ignorant masses would wake up and smell the turd running their computers.

  • Imagine where we could be if you would use your energy for something productive instead of this crap.

  • fuck you, microsoft can do wat it wants and ther so much better than any competitor

  • solid lisp.

  • If you were a half decent software engineer you would have fixed the problem already... shop your whining Newman!

  • you video creator, are you fucking QQing, QQing, all i hear is blahblahblah, windows and computing have give us a lot. think about that, think about you are using one of their doomed computers.

  • GOSH

  • Moron!

  • Nice lisp fag

  • hahah i second that

    this guys a bitch

  • "My name is Nathan and I like to wears w..."

    O

  • i have vista... and have had 0 crashes and very few problems.

  • Don't hate the player, hate the game. Simply jealous I guess.

  • You weally sthowed us. Widowths thsucks.

    Where can I sign the petition to put you in charge of the world wide drive to make 1000's of operating systems that aren't compatible?

  • If I were you I would take on more important causes on this planet. There are plenty of alternatives out there. Just imagine 4 years of McCain in office, in that situation you're stuck. Get a mac, get a linux/unix box. Woe to never use another microsoft product. What difference does it make. They've messed up with Vista. They even admit it. They shot themselves in the foot. They get it. They don't plan to fail you know.

  • faaag!

  • With a take like that on Microsoft and what has been accomplished over the last decade and a half, I doubt if you are anything close to a 'software developer'.

  • Dude, I am sorry you didn't pass the simple programming tests to get hired at MS and I am sorry that you are bitter. Now please get a life? Or an education? Or some *PERSPECTIVE*. Hating Microsoft is not important to the world.

  • What's really annoying is that the idiot that made that video probably used Vista and all Microsoft products to make the above, unable to use Linux, Mac or anything else and repeating what he heard from others in the street. The truth is that Vista is better than expected and nobody likes that. It was easier when you had the blue screen of death .. Now what? If it wasn't for Microsoft no other OS would be in development now as all projects are alternative attempts to theirs.

  • wtf get a life wats this gonna change

  • he is right though, macintosh is better quality. but they still crash, like every other computer. but as a personal computer, i would rather a mac. hands down.

  • How can you "Sink about that"?

  • Bill Gates killed the grandfather? Thats a little lame. No wait.. thats REALLY lame! For all any of us knows we could be 10 years behind where we are today were it not for Microsoft. Like it or not Windows is the most widely used operating system in the world. Almost all software runs on Windows. Microsoft may not be the best business in the world but they sure do make great software. Sure they can make mistakes but so do you.. like this video! Go pander to your anti-MS friends.. they'll listen.

  • Look I hate Microsoft sucks too, but this guy is an idiot. Get out of your basement and read a book on economics. Think if every company had competing OS. Data transfer would be brutally hindered. Setting a standard is a good thing. For example, I learned word processing on WordPerfect, from a Utah company where I am from. I supported them, but I couldn't deny Word was a better program and integrated with other progs. Learn something you dumb idiot. And fix your fucking lisp.

  • this dude sound very effeminate

  • Funny but I cant get vista to crash!! lol

    But mactards will still need to persist.

    Its like they are a such a failure and are desperate for some kinda, any kinda, recognition.

    oh well they got it, we now know, they ARE retarded!

  • What on earth are you babbling about? for all you know we could be decades behind! Holy crap your an arrogant cuss.

  • are you serious? Microsoft killed my grandfather? It has nothing to do with the fact he smoked or ate a pound of bacon everyday. Who ever though the BSOD would become so surreal. Please man, if it weren't for Microsoft, half of us in the I.T. world would not be enjoying the lives of geek-dom were currently enjoying, Especially if we're employed in it.

    There's got to be an O.S. that takes the lion's share of things. Why not Microsoft?

  • why not mac?

  • Don't ask me man, I've got nothing against mac. that's a question better asked of the the economy I suppose.

    To me, That's like asking, "why doesn't everyone make a gaming console? If every company made their own, it would really stimulate creativity." True...but economics has decided the outcome of that one already,third party software (iE games) would be pretty hard to come by.there's got to be a common ground where *most* of us meet. that just happens to be windows. Mac are cool though.

  • Thes text respoonse was spell checkerd iwth microsorft spekk checkerr.

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