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  • So they gave a blond hair, blue eyed America a genetic super serum an idealized body to fight Nazis. So he was made into an Aryan to fight Nazis. His triumph wasn't achieved through hard work and perseverance but scientific experimentation.

  • It is true, for the most part, that Cap was granted his abilities, but it is not in the achievement of his power that he is triumphant, but rather in his use of said power. Many people have worn the mask of Captain America, some brave and honorable, others not, but none can claim to have done as much with the symbol and the power as Steve Rogers. It is in the quantity and quality of his service to his country and to the world that he triumphs, not in his aquisition of his meagre superpowers.

  • Yeah, but that also plays into his Aryan character. Steve Rogers' cardinal trait is his extreme patriotism. His nationalism trumps his character. His brave, honorable, and puts the state before himself. He's a Nazi's wet dream.

  • Cap loves his country, but his patriotism does not trump his character. There have been times in thr past when his country has asked him to do things he believed were wrong, and each time he chose to follow his own feelings on the matter, even surrendering his name, his costume and his shield rather than follow orders blindly to keep them. Cap is a strong, popular, national symbol who thinks for himself and defies the government when he needs to. He's not a Nazi's wet dream, he's their nightmare

  • Steve Rogers only disobeyed his country when he thought they failed to live up to the ideal of the nation. He isn't blind to the powers that be, he's blind to the nationalist ideal.

    He thinks for himself as much as Jesus did (here I'm only treating Jesus as a literary character). The actions of both are external and deterministic. Cap to the American ideal and Jesus to divine imperative.

    Strong, popular, national symbol, blond, athletic, blue eyed... all Aryan traits.

  • It is ironic that Cap embodies a physical ideal enshrined by the enemy he was created to fight, but that in and of itself does not discredit him. Being blond, blue eyed, athletic and popular are not bad things. Loving one's country and serving it are not in and of themselves bad, so long as you allow your actions to be guided by a conscience, as Steve does. You could argue that Cap is a slave to the American Ideal, but when his ideals did hurt others, as they did during Civil War, he surrendered

  • Contemporary marvel knights Cap was a little darker but Cap didn't fit the mold, so he was offed. Thats not a reflection of the character though.

    Cap never hurt anyone? Its was he does, he beats up commies like Flag Smasher and neo nazis.

    The parallels between Cap and the nazi superman aren't merely superficial. No wants to admit the American dream and the idealized Aryan aren't all that different. Cap is an idealized ego that embodies how America ought to be and its a disturbing picture.

  • Captain America represents the American Ideal because he believes that to be Truth and Justice. There can be no greater difference between him and a Nazi. To say that they are similar because They are both patriotic is akin to saying that Churchill and Hitler were the same because they both were human.

    He is not without fault, I don't think anyone is trying to say that. It is his faults and how he works past them that make him such a great hero and role model.

  • You're right, (T)ruth and (J)ustice, his idealism is absolute, this runs parallel to other forms of idealism.

    He's presented to be without fault. I grew up on Cap, placed a close eye on him, notice how all Marvel heroes adore him. He was the moral compass of 616. Even the cynical anti-heroes of the early ninties looked up to him.

    The parallel between Cap and Nazis is that they both have a fascist vein. This was the point of Alan Moore's Tom Strong. It was a play on the trope of Cap + Superman

  • Too bad aryan nazis did whatever they were told. Rogers stopped being Captain America when he didn't agree with his assignments.

  • Dude is my hero. I love Cap but this guy puts me to shame.

  • Read "The Truth: Red White and Black" to get this whole story. Isaiah's grandson is now a superhero called "The Patriot" in marvel comics and his son is called "Isaiah X". They all have cap's powers.

  • Ah! Turn the page, faithful YouTube watcher! We have you covered on the flip (in part 2) where Lazzarus gives a nod to Elijah Bradley. We didn't go into Isaiah X though since the piece is (mostly) about the Cap lineage.

    (there is a playlist with all 11 parts in it just to your right)

  • Reminds me of that guy in Canada that does the Spider-Man documentaries...only this guy knows his stuff even better. Good job, if a bit long.

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