@EruIluvatar, actually it does. You owe your very life to the universe itself. For example, if no stars were to explode, none of the elements heavier than Helium would exist, this then leads to the fact that you nor I nor anyone else would exist either.
@EruIluvatar That question is pretty interesting, but my answer is bit different than the one below.
When Christians talk about Atheists, some of them say things like 'If you don't believe in God, why bother living? What is the point?'. For me, as an atheist, your question makes me react in a similar way. The study of cosmology is very much the study of the meaning of life for people who aren't satisfied with 'God did it' as an answer.
There's space that is occupied by matter and there's free space which is infinite.
Can someone point me to something that explains why everything came from 1 spot and how the hell they'd calculate it cause i'm not buying it! ;-) Enjoy your day!
@signalchef The Big Bang is a fact; just as gravity is. Look up cosmological red-shift, the Doppler Effect, and the speed of galaxies. The general fact that the universe is expanded is pretty well understood and undisputed in the astronomical community.
@signalchef Everything seems to move away from a single point at a speed indicating that this movement started at a point in time corresponding to CMB. Measuring space only makes sense when measured relative to mass, as there are otherwise no reference points defining dimensions. Only as long as anything at all exists, the idea of infinite space makes sense. But the same goes out for time. Therefor, there is no "before the Big Bang", as there were no sensible time or space "before" singularity.
@outofpeanuts And "nothing" is only interesting for science as long as there is space. "Nothing" can only be proven if there is space. If you choose to think of a "before the Big Bang", it isn't for science. Science is proving-, seeking understanding of- and predicting what can be measured. You'll need something else for what you seem to have in mind. And the Big Bang shines trough about just everything astrology. Denying it is much like denying gravity: it may very well be either is badly
there is no fundamental difference in the 'way of thinking' in the creationist idea and the big bang theory. in both, there is a single point of starting and a linear progression that follows. in both theories, there is a 'denial' of answering what happened or what caused that point of starting. at least, in the creationist case, there is 'God' to show as a reason. Science doesn't even have that. (i'm not saying creationist idea is the 'truth', both suffer from the same weakness)
@dharshana81 Except creationism can't even be consider a scientific approach in any way, it's very fundamental difference, actually. Sure, creationist posit that god created everything, and has to be the cause to everything, but that's making a argument from ignorance. At least the scientific approach is humble, and simply says "we don't know".
@Shreddah But what if you call the "something", "somehow" and "for some reason" "God", and define "God" as exactly that? It's like calling the unknown factor of an equation "x". It's not less a less humble approach than calling it "?", it's just easier to operate with. I'm not saying that's how creationists approach it, I'm just trying to close a gap of prejudice. :)
Well, I suppose as a scientist he would say its meaningless to ask what preceded the big bang. He is saying that because he and no one else either knows how to answer this question. The question is still there and maybe one day science will be better equiped to answer it. Anyway, I thought all scientists held the view there is a scientific answer to everything, given time !
What if the universe started out as a fully packed event horizon, one bit of info per planck area, and expanded. Maybe a previous universe's Big Rip caused its cosmological EH to appear to collapse because space was moving faster than light, faster than the event horizon was allowed to move. Once the event horizon was fully packed, could not shrink anymore, the larger expansion force outside the horizon would pull the universe out in a new Big Bang. No inflation, or singularity needed.
I maintain that reality is God dreaming, that way every philosophy and religion is technically correct without violating science or reason. The premise is so ludicrously flexible that it can make no predictions or be disproved. Funny actually, just because its all embracing, is it wrong?
If there wouldn't be answer to the question of being, there wouldn't be young scientists (Though I would like to differentiate in this case scientists from technologists).
You know what's really a trip? The speed of those galaxies zooming away from us could be relative to the power of our telescopes. If we had a more powerful telescope that should allow us to see further, then would those galaxies appear to be speeding away from us at a faster rate? Notice that this expansion only became real to us after we began to use more powerful telescopes to look deeper into space. Almost as if the universe expands just to the point that we cannot se the edge of it.
This video was great, because it made me came up with the question "why is there anything rather than nothing?" shortly before it was actually asked.
But on another note, in the vacuum particle pairs come into existence without cause (if I understood this correctly, which is very much doubtable). This is a thing that only happens at really tiny scales. At the big bang the universe was really tiny, so the question is, does the big bang need a cause?
@buitrami And what caused god to exist? How did his or her intelligence come to be? If you answer "god just was there", why does this not apply to a mother universe to ours in which ours came into existence just through uncertainty?
@blenderpanzi You're asking me like i know the answers. Lol...I don't f*ing know! No one does. I was just adding what comes next after he said that there was a limit to science. After knowing all there is to know about the facts of science, you hit a wall. And that's where faith or the idea of God comes into play. You must admit, he set himself up for that one...
@buitrami The thing is that god isn't a logical consequence from this context. Its just one story you could fill in if you'd like. However, this isn't science and there is no rational reason whatsoever to believe into something that isn't scientifically proven. Of course you are free to do so anyway. But I think what Dara O'Brian said is right: "Science does not know everything, otherwise it would stop. But this does not mean you can fill in the gaps with whatever fairytale appeal most to you."
If life did not come about, there would be no questions, but the Universe would still exist with the same laws that no-none knows about. Well in our Universe anyway.
@Films4You Thats not what i'm talking about. Intelligent life is the link between the quantum world and the 'very large' in the universe. We are as much a part of the blueprint as the stars and the atoms that make up everything. If life did not come about, neither would the universe.
@bigspliffs If, nothing than tiny bang instead of big bang made some atoms these atoms made life, but no other mass e.g. planets... then life but no Universe and of couse the opposite could exist in multi-verse
@Films4You if a tree falls down and noone is there to notice it, did it still fall down?
the answer is maybe, and irrelevant.
if none ever notices the tree, it doesnt even matter that its there (fallen or not). if someone notices the fallen down tree he will deduce that it has fallen down, but the act of the tree actually falling down is irrelevant.
what does all this have to do with my life? nothing.
EruIluvatar 1 month ago
@EruIluvatar, actually it does. You owe your very life to the universe itself. For example, if no stars were to explode, none of the elements heavier than Helium would exist, this then leads to the fact that you nor I nor anyone else would exist either.
AktivityNow 1 month ago
@EruIluvatar That question is pretty interesting, but my answer is bit different than the one below.
When Christians talk about Atheists, some of them say things like 'If you don't believe in God, why bother living? What is the point?'. For me, as an atheist, your question makes me react in a similar way. The study of cosmology is very much the study of the meaning of life for people who aren't satisfied with 'God did it' as an answer.
kanojo1969 1 week ago
IMO:
There was no big bang, the universe is infinite.
Nothing can emerge from nothing.
There's space that is occupied by matter and there's free space which is infinite.
Can someone point me to something that explains why everything came from 1 spot and how the hell they'd calculate it cause i'm not buying it! ;-) Enjoy your day!
signalchef 1 month ago
@signalchef The Big Bang is a fact; just as gravity is. Look up cosmological red-shift, the Doppler Effect, and the speed of galaxies. The general fact that the universe is expanded is pretty well understood and undisputed in the astronomical community.
VanKlaunch 1 month ago in playlist Boundaries of the Knowable
@signalchef Everything seems to move away from a single point at a speed indicating that this movement started at a point in time corresponding to CMB. Measuring space only makes sense when measured relative to mass, as there are otherwise no reference points defining dimensions. Only as long as anything at all exists, the idea of infinite space makes sense. But the same goes out for time. Therefor, there is no "before the Big Bang", as there were no sensible time or space "before" singularity.
outofpeanuts 1 month ago
@outofpeanuts And "nothing" is only interesting for science as long as there is space. "Nothing" can only be proven if there is space. If you choose to think of a "before the Big Bang", it isn't for science. Science is proving-, seeking understanding of- and predicting what can be measured. You'll need something else for what you seem to have in mind. And the Big Bang shines trough about just everything astrology. Denying it is much like denying gravity: it may very well be either is badly
outofpeanuts 1 month ago
@outofpeanuts poorly* (pardon my poorly formulated sentence) formulated, but we know for sure men don't tend to fly.
outofpeanuts 1 month ago
Poor Tony. XD
nracnrac 1 month ago
My mind is blown...comprehensively.
hla27b 1 month ago
The more we discover the more questions we create
scubadope 2 months ago 3
could it be that the galaxies are moving away we are just shrinking?
MrHappyRobot 2 months ago
I swear, when the video faded to black at 7:20 , I moved my mouse because I thought my computer was turning the screen saver on.
xelordo 2 months ago
42.
notfree25 2 months ago in playlist Boundaries of the Knowable
there is no fundamental difference in the 'way of thinking' in the creationist idea and the big bang theory. in both, there is a single point of starting and a linear progression that follows. in both theories, there is a 'denial' of answering what happened or what caused that point of starting. at least, in the creationist case, there is 'God' to show as a reason. Science doesn't even have that. (i'm not saying creationist idea is the 'truth', both suffer from the same weakness)
dharshana81 2 months ago in playlist Consciousness and the limits of Science
@dharshana81 Except creationism can't even be consider a scientific approach in any way, it's very fundamental difference, actually. Sure, creationist posit that god created everything, and has to be the cause to everything, but that's making a argument from ignorance. At least the scientific approach is humble, and simply says "we don't know".
Shreddah 1 month ago
@Shreddah But what if you call the "something", "somehow" and "for some reason" "God", and define "God" as exactly that? It's like calling the unknown factor of an equation "x". It's not less a less humble approach than calling it "?", it's just easier to operate with. I'm not saying that's how creationists approach it, I'm just trying to close a gap of prejudice. :)
outofpeanuts 1 month ago
he just drank the coffee he stirred with a pencil :S
HouseFantastic 3 months ago
Looking at this episode I see no need for its cause or exsistence.
alaudun2 3 months ago
I disagree, I think there was a before the big bang. Space and time must be infinite.
Typho0n86 3 months ago
Well, I suppose as a scientist he would say its meaningless to ask what preceded the big bang. He is saying that because he and no one else either knows how to answer this question. The question is still there and maybe one day science will be better equiped to answer it. Anyway, I thought all scientists held the view there is a scientific answer to everything, given time !
brindow1 4 months ago
@brindow1 i think you missed his point....
OldManHunger 3 months ago
@OldManHunger And just what is this point I missed,,you do not say !
brindow1 3 months ago
if the universe is expanding... what is it expanding into???
eh ??
Hellacool66 7 months ago
@Hellacool66 If its expanding, what is contracting??
bigspliffs 6 months ago
What if the universe started out as a fully packed event horizon, one bit of info per planck area, and expanded. Maybe a previous universe's Big Rip caused its cosmological EH to appear to collapse because space was moving faster than light, faster than the event horizon was allowed to move. Once the event horizon was fully packed, could not shrink anymore, the larger expansion force outside the horizon would pull the universe out in a new Big Bang. No inflation, or singularity needed.
freedomfrombots 11 months ago
I maintain that reality is God dreaming, that way every philosophy and religion is technically correct without violating science or reason. The premise is so ludicrously flexible that it can make no predictions or be disproved. Funny actually, just because its all embracing, is it wrong?
deathing 1 year ago
If there wouldn't be answer to the question of being, there wouldn't be young scientists (Though I would like to differentiate in this case scientists from technologists).
EndureTemptation 1 year ago
Profeser russle how can time exist if we don't no when it starts or were it ends or us it just a measurment of the human brain?
hartz000 1 year ago
You know what's really a trip? The speed of those galaxies zooming away from us could be relative to the power of our telescopes. If we had a more powerful telescope that should allow us to see further, then would those galaxies appear to be speeding away from us at a faster rate? Notice that this expansion only became real to us after we began to use more powerful telescopes to look deeper into space. Almost as if the universe expands just to the point that we cannot se the edge of it.
amazinero 1 year ago
This video was great, because it made me came up with the question "why is there anything rather than nothing?" shortly before it was actually asked.
But on another note, in the vacuum particle pairs come into existence without cause (if I understood this correctly, which is very much doubtable). This is a thing that only happens at really tiny scales. At the big bang the universe was really tiny, so the question is, does the big bang need a cause?
blenderpanzi 1 year ago
This is where God comes in.
buitrami 1 year ago
@buitrami And what caused god to exist? How did his or her intelligence come to be? If you answer "god just was there", why does this not apply to a mother universe to ours in which ours came into existence just through uncertainty?
blenderpanzi 1 year ago
@blenderpanzi You're asking me like i know the answers. Lol...I don't f*ing know! No one does. I was just adding what comes next after he said that there was a limit to science. After knowing all there is to know about the facts of science, you hit a wall. And that's where faith or the idea of God comes into play. You must admit, he set himself up for that one...
buitrami 1 year ago
@buitrami The thing is that god isn't a logical consequence from this context. Its just one story you could fill in if you'd like. However, this isn't science and there is no rational reason whatsoever to believe into something that isn't scientifically proven. Of course you are free to do so anyway. But I think what Dara O'Brian said is right: "Science does not know everything, otherwise it would stop. But this does not mean you can fill in the gaps with whatever fairytale appeal most to you."
blenderpanzi 1 year ago
I've got that cup!
90fitzgerald09 1 year ago
woohoo
jacezz123 1 year ago
This guy's grandkids must be really lucky.
HecklerBoy7 2 years ago 19
If life did not come about, there would be no questions, but the Universe would still exist with the same laws that no-none knows about. Well in our Universe anyway.
Films4You 2 years ago
@Films4You I'm not sure the universe can exist without life?
bigspliffs 6 months ago
@bigspliffs If a tree fails, and there is noone to hear it dose it still fall. Answer yes.
If a Universe exists and there is no live to know a bout it does that Universe exist. Answer yes.
Life did not make, (life may have/is modified it), the Universe the Universe made life.
Films4You 6 months ago
@Films4You Thats not what i'm talking about. Intelligent life is the link between the quantum world and the 'very large' in the universe. We are as much a part of the blueprint as the stars and the atoms that make up everything. If life did not come about, neither would the universe.
bigspliffs 6 months ago
@bigspliffs If, nothing than tiny bang instead of big bang made some atoms these atoms made life, but no other mass e.g. planets... then life but no Universe and of couse the opposite could exist in multi-verse
Films4You 6 months ago
@Films4You Apologies, but could you re-word that? I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to explain to me.
bigspliffs 6 months ago
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@bigspliffs I'm not sure the universe can exist without life? Simple anser Yes but there would be no live to know about it.
Can a planet exist without life, yes and if any universe is manly, (ok plenty of other stuff), made out of planets; say no mare
Films4You 6 months ago
@Films4You if a tree falls down and noone is there to notice it, did it still fall down?
the answer is maybe, and irrelevant.
if none ever notices the tree, it doesnt even matter that its there (fallen or not). if someone notices the fallen down tree he will deduce that it has fallen down, but the act of the tree actually falling down is irrelevant.
-bohr
sudazima 4 months ago
@Films4You
If life never came about, there would be no universe because this universe gaurentees life, thats why we have it.
dancingwithcalvin 5 months ago
This is awesome.
jufconnie 2 years ago