motorakid, yep, you are seeing the conspiracy to kill the 2 stroke. :-( they groom mx tracks and lie and say its for tv looks, BS, its so fat assed 4strokes look better. they DONT want viable 2strokes, why, cos they are cheap n EZ to fix, they want their dealer networks to make shitloads of money from you WHEN, not if, your 4strokes blow itself to hell. so sad, now no one can afford to race, no one is buying new bikes, Hey AMA, NPG, MX Sports, "Hows that working for ya?" as Dr Phil would ask.
@vetb882 I dont get this argument. They are both fun to ride, bith have pros and cons. Just because 2 strokes dont race much anymore doesnt mean you cant own and ride one. I recently went to four stroke and I wont turn back. I can ride all day on a tank of gas, I dont need to over rev all day to keep up, and I can go wide open all the way down the road without blowing it up. Ive lost too many top ends just trying to go 65 mph up the street on my two smokers
@homebrewman23 I appreciate you differing views. Your points are valid but Ive never ridden my "dirt" bike on the street at 65 mph, never hit that speed on the track no less. Under proper circumstances and engine mtc, meaning jetting correctly, a 2stroke should survive that, after all in desert races in mad heat they ran at 100mph all day long. I have nothing against 4strokes in an of themselves, what I detest is people taking away my choices. 2 strokes are no longer competitive on many levels.
@vetb882 Its not the heat that kills the motor, its the excessive rpms needed to maintain near top speed. For example my yz 125 topped out at 67 mph. In order to go 65 mph, you would be revving to about 12000 rpm and I blew it 3 times on the road sometimes top end sometimes bottom. My crf250 on the otherhand can hold 70 mph, all day because oil is constantly spraying all over the piston and crank. ...Just saying!
@vetb882 I have to ride alot of road to get to the trail, like 20 minits, each way. I had a yz 125 and the top end would blow always on the road trying to keep up with my buddies. Its hard to let you friends pull away from you the whole way to the trail so you have to find a happy medium from getting left behind and screaming the motor 6th gear wide open to maintan 65 mph. So far, ive had better luck with my 4 stroker knock on wood!! For most people though, this isnt an issue at all
@homebrewman23 ridden my "dirt" bike on the street at 65 mph, never hit that speed on the track no less. Under proper circumstances and engine mtc, meaning jetting correctly, a 2stroke should survive that, after all in desert races in mad heat they ran at 100mph all day long. I have nothing against 4strokes in an of themselves, what I detest is people taking away my choices. 2 strokes are no longer competitive on many levels.
Anyone know the name of the video that this came from. When i was a kid I used to rent it from the Video store all the time. I wanna try and find it and buy it.
I also had this on VHS, it had a combination of things on it. bigfoot, 3wheeler stadium racing, motocross and supercross. I was at my parents house a few weeks ago digging through their videos but I guess they threw it out because I couldn't find it anywhere.
No disrespect to you but this footage is from Unadilla ,perhaps the most famous MX track in the world,And in the 80's,pre grooming,so believe me Its very rough.One lap and ur spent unless u are in tip top shape.
haha ya ur probabley right, im just used to whooped out sand sections not braking bumps on harder tracks like unidilla, it just looks alot different to me. well for example like if you look at southwick thats the kinda rough i rormally ride. alot different though.
Yeah southwick gets rough,I've been there.(just spectating)I used to ride at a place with some old friends from NE in the late 70's(old school) littleton mass a very whooped out sand practice track.
CR 480 was air cooled...stopped production in 1983...'84 was water cooled. This bike is obviously water cooled...it is a 125...due to the black number plate...white plate is 250 and yellow is 500...
motorakid, yep, you are seeing the conspiracy to kill the 2 stroke. :-( they groom mx tracks and lie and say its for tv looks, BS, its so fat assed 4strokes look better. they DONT want viable 2strokes, why, cos they are cheap n EZ to fix, they want their dealer networks to make shitloads of money from you WHEN, not if, your 4strokes blow itself to hell. so sad, now no one can afford to race, no one is buying new bikes, Hey AMA, NPG, MX Sports, "Hows that working for ya?" as Dr Phil would ask.
vetb882 2 months ago
@vetb882 I dont get this argument. They are both fun to ride, bith have pros and cons. Just because 2 strokes dont race much anymore doesnt mean you cant own and ride one. I recently went to four stroke and I wont turn back. I can ride all day on a tank of gas, I dont need to over rev all day to keep up, and I can go wide open all the way down the road without blowing it up. Ive lost too many top ends just trying to go 65 mph up the street on my two smokers
homebrewman23 2 weeks ago
@homebrewman23 I appreciate you differing views. Your points are valid but Ive never ridden my "dirt" bike on the street at 65 mph, never hit that speed on the track no less. Under proper circumstances and engine mtc, meaning jetting correctly, a 2stroke should survive that, after all in desert races in mad heat they ran at 100mph all day long. I have nothing against 4strokes in an of themselves, what I detest is people taking away my choices. 2 strokes are no longer competitive on many levels.
vetb882 2 weeks ago
@vetb882 Its not the heat that kills the motor, its the excessive rpms needed to maintain near top speed. For example my yz 125 topped out at 67 mph. In order to go 65 mph, you would be revving to about 12000 rpm and I blew it 3 times on the road sometimes top end sometimes bottom. My crf250 on the otherhand can hold 70 mph, all day because oil is constantly spraying all over the piston and crank. ...Just saying!
homebrewman23 2 weeks ago
@homebrewman23 are you road racing or are you dirt biking? not sure which. no 125 should stay at 12k rpm, shift up...lol
vetb882 2 weeks ago
@vetb882 I have to ride alot of road to get to the trail, like 20 minits, each way. I had a yz 125 and the top end would blow always on the road trying to keep up with my buddies. Its hard to let you friends pull away from you the whole way to the trail so you have to find a happy medium from getting left behind and screaming the motor 6th gear wide open to maintan 65 mph. So far, ive had better luck with my 4 stroker knock on wood!! For most people though, this isnt an issue at all
homebrewman23 1 week ago
@homebrewman23 Ahhh, I see, I get it now. :-) be safe out there and yes, 4stroke is better for that.
vetb882 1 week ago
@homebrewman23 ridden my "dirt" bike on the street at 65 mph, never hit that speed on the track no less. Under proper circumstances and engine mtc, meaning jetting correctly, a 2stroke should survive that, after all in desert races in mad heat they ran at 100mph all day long. I have nothing against 4strokes in an of themselves, what I detest is people taking away my choices. 2 strokes are no longer competitive on many levels.
vetb882 2 weeks ago
David Bailey and Christopher Cross ... does it get any better!! :)
I think this was on a CR250 with the pipe on the left side of the bike?
ThugsRmorons 3 months ago
...and what a smooth rider he was...he made it look easy at high speeds. thanks for the video.
maestroxo 7 months ago
im thinking pingking...500. wasn't that bailey's ride mid 80's or am i mistaken. my video is not that great, but the roost reminds me of a 500...
maestroxo 7 months ago
This video was also on the "David Bailey when the going gets tough video"
ewatters1 9 months ago
Why could he ride like that? Because it was an awesome bike.
JoeD60 9 months ago
@JoeD60 he was an awesome rider.
vetb882 2 weeks ago
Those old bikes r the best!
riotmaker69 1 year ago
Anyone know the name of the video that this came from. When i was a kid I used to rent it from the Video store all the time. I wanna try and find it and buy it.
ephenj 1 year ago
used to watch this with my dad when I was riding 50's on a weekly basis!!!
uncoverthelies 1 year ago
i used to race at lake sugar tree in axton va. that would be his back yard . literally. in 1982 he was still semi pro. man was he smooth.
terrabletim 1 year ago
i have a vhs tape of this race hahaha! the good times.
yamaha85number17 1 year ago
@yamaha85number17
I also had this on VHS, it had a combination of things on it. bigfoot, 3wheeler stadium racing, motocross and supercross. I was at my parents house a few weeks ago digging through their videos but I guess they threw it out because I couldn't find it anywhere.
snosurfer05 1 year ago
@snosurfer05
i had this video to. i used to watch it so much when i was little what was the name of it?
warpig0470 1 year ago
Ross Pederson Is My Neighbor
gixxersoup 2 years ago
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deadenear 2 years ago
Look at how rough that track is compared to the groomed ones of today.AND LOOK AT THAT CROWD!
Motorakid 2 years ago 4
it aint that rough ride at baja mx in millington and ull know wat rough is lol no disrespect
Christianpaul7 2 years ago
No disrespect to you but this footage is from Unadilla ,perhaps the most famous MX track in the world,And in the 80's,pre grooming,so believe me Its very rough.One lap and ur spent unless u are in tip top shape.
Motorakid 2 years ago
haha ya ur probabley right, im just used to whooped out sand sections not braking bumps on harder tracks like unidilla, it just looks alot different to me. well for example like if you look at southwick thats the kinda rough i rormally ride. alot different though.
Christianpaul7 2 years ago
Yeah southwick gets rough,I've been there.(just spectating)I used to ride at a place with some old friends from NE in the late 70's(old school) littleton mass a very whooped out sand practice track.
Motorakid 2 years ago
Right.The outdoors is more like outdoor SX thesedays
motoxbuddy 2 years ago
@Motorakid The tracks are the same like that here in Finland... =D
OnniiFilms 1 month ago
What a damn shame that David's career was cut short. I've heard that if you want to make God laugh........tell him your plans.
muzzmatrix 2 years ago
i think that ross pederson #31 got the holeshot.
robichaud380 2 years ago
The year was 1983.
The race was 250 USGP in Unadilla.
Bailey's number plate wasn't black (125 cc) but dark green (250 cc): look at the pipe.
The rider with the number 1 is Danny Laporte, the number 2 is George Jobé.
Sorry for my english, I'm Italian
dbandjmbfan 3 years ago 7
correct!
motoxbuddy 2 years ago
@dbandjmbfan le CR nelli 80s erano grosse dificile di dire se e un 125 o 250, pero la gara era 250cc. L'antico motocross...
Io sono peruviano, Iove Hondas. since the elsinore. Correvo anche nel venezuela 1979-1984 .
saluti da los angeles CA.
disyokerr 11 months ago
CR 480 was air cooled...stopped production in 1983...'84 was water cooled. This bike is obviously water cooled...it is a 125...due to the black number plate...white plate is 250 and yellow is 500...
eelkcirderf 3 years ago
Does any one know how he got injured?
MOUNTEL1 3 years ago
he missed a double jump in the winter of 87 in california.he was training for the 87 season
robichaud380 2 years ago
Honda cr 480 ?
Vondur88 3 years ago
He is riding a 1984 HRC CR500 Honda works bike.
You can tell this is 1984 cause you see a quick shot of Heikki Mikkola at the start and he was running the number 1 plate in 500cc GP's that year. :)
Atheistprimate 3 years ago
SROAT!!! Smoother rider of all time!
DV12COM 3 years ago
good to see this again
robichaud380 3 years ago