well you can do a lot of research and all that, but one thing you'll only learn of experience and that is correct movement. all these horses are not moveing correctly and there tails are not relaxed at all!!
@Kathiemin I agree that you can see the tension in these horses as they are being asked for their movements, but honestly, I have yet to see horses that perform these movements look truly relaxed. I don't know if its just that these horses are somewhat hot by nature or they just get worked up. I do notice however that in this video you see the horses completely relaxed while standing on the wall waiting for their next turn to perform.
@InLove4Ev actually all dressage done by the riding schools is started on the ground. Thusly some of the shows exhibit from the ground, it's actually much easier on the horse and shown more freely from the ground.
Sweet Judith~ Have you not been around horses or Stallions, I do not see what you think is un-natural unless you among those that thinks chasing a horse in a round pen is Natural. Have you sat on an Iberian or Lipizzaner? and maybe half halted a little to strong, Levade's happen so does the Pessade! Did you see blood sweat or death! Well done happy Stallions!
@SweetJudith12345. Believe it or not all these movements are natural for the horse, in nature they all rear, buck, levade, trot, piaffee, when all when their trying to find and/or attract a mate to breed. this has no stain on their bodies what so ever!. the only strain that is done is on their tendons and muscles and IT DOESN'T hurt them, is a natural expansion and flex that is done in every movement that they do. so before you make a statement that is b.s.. do some research... Please?
The heads are not 'tied' as such, they are in side reins, which are used to give the horse support as there is no rider to provide it using the reins on the bridle. Spanish horses are short necked and very compact, the head carriage is traditionally 'tucked in' it looks uncomfortable, but it is how they go natuarally. I have a PRE and he goes like that of his own accord even though I try to ride him long and low. These exercies helps keep them supple, strong and healthy believe it or not!
Please people HUSH UP. These horses have been bred for hundreds of years to be able to cope with the physical demand of such manuevers. Look at how muscular they are! I'm pretty sure the owners of these horses know what they are doing. You're not the horse, you don't know what they are thinking.
You probably should take into consideration the conformation of these spanish horses before you knock how they carry their head or how much strain these movements put on their bodies. Strain is depicted from age, and how hard you're working everyday. These horses aren't even messed with until they 4 - 5 years old when their bodies are ready. Do research before you start knocking please. I have more but I'm running out of room
the neck does look painfull...but its been done like this for years right?...im sure the horses get used to it..i mean they dont really have a choice.
@KalamariSquid. look up the spanish breeds and other dressage/dancing horses, and you will see that their necks are naturally form at birth like that. For example the arabian, they have a giraffe like neck.
sorry but i really dont care enough to. horses are moving lawn ornaments. you see it all the time...these big open fields and just horses walking around...no one even riding them. waste of space. set them free lol.
You can EASILY see that at 1:03 the horse is tied ito a rullkur position, his head TIED to the saddlle, behind the vertical. This is cruelty. Look op 'rullkut' or 'rollkur' The FEI does NO condone it. And tail swishing is fine but when a horse 'blows' like the first one did, that IS a sign of mental stress. And their heads being tied behind the vertical proved these guys are ignorant. it permenantly damages tendons ligaments and causees arthritis at the poll. The guys arent professinals!
Alot of the excited tail swishes are due to INTENSE FOCUS, alot of horses do it not only when they are annyed but also because they have to key up to generate the explosive power for the leaps... its anticipation and EXCITEMENT and not fear or irritation.
Also, that grey does a beautiful Levade display, you almost never see it done well (in true levade the horse actually SINKS and gets smaller!, the taking up to the rear legs us usually PESADE, but the levade here is correct and beautiful!)
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it is actually proven that dressage horse just as much chance as having arthritis and leg problems and sometime they have problems wit there necks because they are always forsed to work in an outline. the horses are fed up wit doin wat they do in the video you can see it in their eyes. i know this for a fact
If you want to have a winge about horses getting damaged, go onto a jumping vidd or a racing one. Both of those would do more damage to there bone structure than Dressage.
None of the tricks are done excessively to cause them and kind of stress, they don't look unhappy, and this is how they earn there keep. There in perfect condition, theye are worth too much to treat poorly.
Dressage is used to create the perfect horse. It used to build every muscle, and create the best althete a horse can be. And their "forced". They use self carriage
NO onky in rollkur there is damage to the neck abd poll. is the correct headset (the CLASSICAL headset) is utilized the horse is suprme athelete. reining is harder on the back legs and cutting is harder on the front legs than dressage ever could be! "modern dressage" is what is ruining horses. look up 'worried eyes' vid!
i dont think the horses like it. and when they are older they will have bad leg problems. i know they will cos i have an ex-dressage horse and he has bad leg problems
Takes talent and dedication to train this horses, and My hat goes off to both the trainers and HORSES. Is beautiful to see what this Beautiful gentle creatures can do.
i don't believe they are distressed most of the tail movements you see is being caused by wind or by flies and buggies The one with his tail up has a very relaxed dock and I think thats why it's moving so much. The ears being back during some moments are mostly due to the difficulty of the maneuvers they are doing And i've seen horses flick their tails when they are having fun look up the dressage freestyle winner that mare positively loved her work and her tail was spinning away the whole time
those aren't lippizaners those are lusitinos they are two completely different breeds developed in two different places with two very different histories
Its a true art... and there were never many horses knowing how to do the levade or any of the other "ares altos" (capriole, pousada...). Its very hard to find a horse taught to do these things, but even harder to find a rider who can teach them how to.
They were origanally trained these moves for wars.They actually wee supposed to help save the riders life if nescessary. It is quite beautiful to know that they still do this in the high school although they will probably never use these moves in battle.But they are soooo gorgeous though. They performed beautifully!!
But To me I don't see them being trained to do this as a natural thing. I'm not saying don't train horses. I'm just saying training them to perform tricks like this are a bit much.
Dressage is based on the natural movements of horses...it resembles how stallions impress mares..so simply put, dressage is based on what a lot of bird and mammals do, called the mating dance :D
To the people who were saying that the neck arch is 'unattractive', these are heavily trained stallions which means the muscle that is typical of any stallion is enhanced. Not to mention the typical PRE and Lusitano head carriage is generally more rounded.
And to the person who says "All they do are rears", I sincerely hope that she knows how difficult it is for the horse to have the balance and strength to manage these manuvers on cue.
the gray one with the gray mane is pretty damn cute ... (like the one with the gray gray mane, and the sorrel is really good ... actually all of them r cute for that matter
all they do is rear... but I like the one where they sit on their haunches and do little rears. that is great... now im drifting off into dream that i'll ever have one of those ^^
I agree they look tense, which is really affecting their performance. But these guys probably do a "show" every day for the tourists, and it's hard to keep horses fresh with that sort of schedule. Also, from working with Paso Finos (descended from Andalusians), I've learned that when this type of breed is being worked, they become quite firey, "hot", and almost combative, even though in stall and pasture they are placid and lazy AND well-treated.
The horses are Andalusians, so they have a naturally high/curled neck carriage, but I saw the draw reins on one of the horses, and they don't look like they have any slack. But I agree, the horses look too tense.
Gorgeous horses, but excepting that levade that was mentioned previously, it looks like trick training to me. The horses look really stressed and nervous, their necks are always curled... it just doesn't look that pretty to me.
Honestly, the Ledvade at 1:09 was the most impressive to me... the piaffe was active, but not consistant, but that levade was nice, its rare you see one with such collection
Sky212 i agree totally. The heads are tied so tight that they are behind the vertical. in the thesaurus of equitation, this would be listed as the opposite of the Spanish Riding School and their TRUE classical piaffes and levades!
well you can do a lot of research and all that, but one thing you'll only learn of experience and that is correct movement. all these horses are not moveing correctly and there tails are not relaxed at all!!
Kathiemin 6 months ago
@Kathiemin I agree that you can see the tension in these horses as they are being asked for their movements, but honestly, I have yet to see horses that perform these movements look truly relaxed. I don't know if its just that these horses are somewhat hot by nature or they just get worked up. I do notice however that in this video you see the horses completely relaxed while standing on the wall waiting for their next turn to perform.
jmdnarri 5 months ago
GoldenOakFarm: Hooray for knowledgeable horse persons with a voice of reason!
thefirstkwie 1 year ago
this isn't dressage. Dressage is where you are riding the horse. this is just dancing.
InLove4Ev 1 year ago
@InLove4Ev actually all dressage done by the riding schools is started on the ground. Thusly some of the shows exhibit from the ground, it's actually much easier on the horse and shown more freely from the ground.
GoldenOakFarm 1 year ago
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ninocoelho28 2 years ago
Sweet Judith~ Have you not been around horses or Stallions, I do not see what you think is un-natural unless you among those that thinks chasing a horse in a round pen is Natural. Have you sat on an Iberian or Lipizzaner? and maybe half halted a little to strong, Levade's happen so does the Pessade! Did you see blood sweat or death! Well done happy Stallions!
depiedefermo 2 years ago
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This is not natural for a horse. It looks like their number 3 vertebrae has been broken.. Very painful. Poor babies have no voice or a choice..
SweetJudith12345 2 years ago
@SweetJudith12345. Believe it or not all these movements are natural for the horse, in nature they all rear, buck, levade, trot, piaffee, when all when their trying to find and/or attract a mate to breed. this has no stain on their bodies what so ever!. the only strain that is done is on their tendons and muscles and IT DOESN'T hurt them, is a natural expansion and flex that is done in every movement that they do. so before you make a statement that is b.s.. do some research... Please?
jmaritz328 1 year ago
The heads are not 'tied' as such, they are in side reins, which are used to give the horse support as there is no rider to provide it using the reins on the bridle. Spanish horses are short necked and very compact, the head carriage is traditionally 'tucked in' it looks uncomfortable, but it is how they go natuarally. I have a PRE and he goes like that of his own accord even though I try to ride him long and low. These exercies helps keep them supple, strong and healthy believe it or not!
19divo 2 years ago 3
Please people HUSH UP. These horses have been bred for hundreds of years to be able to cope with the physical demand of such manuevers. Look at how muscular they are! I'm pretty sure the owners of these horses know what they are doing. You're not the horse, you don't know what they are thinking.
MangoRoX87 2 years ago
You probably should take into consideration the conformation of these spanish horses before you knock how they carry their head or how much strain these movements put on their bodies. Strain is depicted from age, and how hard you're working everyday. These horses aren't even messed with until they 4 - 5 years old when their bodies are ready. Do research before you start knocking please. I have more but I'm running out of room
GoldenOakFarm 2 years ago 10
people. chill
ksenislawa 2 years ago 2
the neck does look painfull...but its been done like this for years right?...im sure the horses get used to it..i mean they dont really have a choice.
KalamariSquid 2 years ago
@KalamariSquid. look up the spanish breeds and other dressage/dancing horses, and you will see that their necks are naturally form at birth like that. For example the arabian, they have a giraffe like neck.
jmaritz328 1 year ago
@jmaritz328
sorry but i really dont care enough to. horses are moving lawn ornaments. you see it all the time...these big open fields and just horses walking around...no one even riding them. waste of space. set them free lol.
KalamariSquid 1 year ago
@KalamariSquid. i figured u'd say that, typical...
jmaritz328 1 year ago
You can EASILY see that at 1:03 the horse is tied ito a rullkur position, his head TIED to the saddlle, behind the vertical. This is cruelty. Look op 'rullkut' or 'rollkur' The FEI does NO condone it. And tail swishing is fine but when a horse 'blows' like the first one did, that IS a sign of mental stress. And their heads being tied behind the vertical proved these guys are ignorant. it permenantly damages tendons ligaments and causees arthritis at the poll. The guys arent professinals!
bbbask 2 years ago
Alot of the excited tail swishes are due to INTENSE FOCUS, alot of horses do it not only when they are annyed but also because they have to key up to generate the explosive power for the leaps... its anticipation and EXCITEMENT and not fear or irritation.
Also, that grey does a beautiful Levade display, you almost never see it done well (in true levade the horse actually SINKS and gets smaller!, the taking up to the rear legs us usually PESADE, but the levade here is correct and beautiful!)
EmpressIllyria 2 years ago 2
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it is actually proven that dressage horse just as much chance as having arthritis and leg problems and sometime they have problems wit there necks because they are always forsed to work in an outline. the horses are fed up wit doin wat they do in the video you can see it in their eyes. i know this for a fact
fuckingpisstakers 2 years ago
If you want to have a winge about horses getting damaged, go onto a jumping vidd or a racing one. Both of those would do more damage to there bone structure than Dressage.
None of the tricks are done excessively to cause them and kind of stress, they don't look unhappy, and this is how they earn there keep. There in perfect condition, theye are worth too much to treat poorly.
Prity easy life if you ask me.
Andalusian100 2 years ago
Dressage is used to create the perfect horse. It used to build every muscle, and create the best althete a horse can be. And their "forced". They use self carriage
equinechick569 2 years ago
huh?
bbbask 2 years ago
NO onky in rollkur there is damage to the neck abd poll. is the correct headset (the CLASSICAL headset) is utilized the horse is suprme athelete. reining is harder on the back legs and cutting is harder on the front legs than dressage ever could be! "modern dressage" is what is ruining horses. look up 'worried eyes' vid!
bbbask 2 years ago
i dont think the horses like it. and when they are older they will have bad leg problems. i know they will cos i have an ex-dressage horse and he has bad leg problems
fuckingpisstakers 3 years ago
Your horse is more likely to have leg and joint problems if they are jumped to death, not so much through dressage.
ThundersRose 2 years ago
so? i had an ex-carriage horse that had bad leg problems. how often you see a carriage horse gallop?
bbbask 2 years ago
I only wish the U.S. PRE world could get thier "stuff" together.
tonymoss57 3 years ago
I AGREE
FayDKurogane 2 years ago
Lovely!
UnbridledOaks 3 years ago 2
They've been trained well and there's a trainer there to reassure the horse every time! B-e-a-utiful!
BlackandWhite4ever 3 years ago
I agree. the head is supposed to be in front of the vertical, not behind
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Dim3nsion89 3 years ago
Takes talent and dedication to train this horses, and My hat goes off to both the trainers and HORSES. Is beautiful to see what this Beautiful gentle creatures can do.
magicmoonlight 3 years ago 3
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ich1194 3 years ago 2
very nice but i really like how they use there horses
erin450450 3 years ago
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Have the Spanish ever won a gold medal in the olimpics??..NOOOOOOOOOOOO I don't think so!
ropefast 3 years ago
You're comparing two entirely different types of dressage there.
Cheyenne17124 3 years ago 2
do their side reins really need to be that short!?
some of them are extremely over bend they they look very uncomftorble
you4scooba 3 years ago 2
I agree. the head is supposed to be in front of the vertical, not behind
mushergal 3 years ago 3
Brillant! I love spanish dressage they are the best!
fayethefrog 3 years ago
I think dressage is the most beautiful horse riding EVER.
onlylikehorses 3 years ago
That chocolate palomino is absolutly stunning!
fuzzyraspberry 4 years ago 11
SOOOO Pretty!
WesternHorseGirl 3 years ago
they are very beautiful horses, though sometimes i wonder whether what theyre doing puts them in distress =[
nevertheless, an art that really expresses the elegance of the horse.
May i ask where abouts in Spain this was? I would love to visit!
yngwiesviking 4 years ago 3
I wondered the same thing about the distress. Watch their tails...any dressage horse people to enlighten?
jlynnhappy 3 years ago
i don't believe they are distressed most of the tail movements you see is being caused by wind or by flies and buggies The one with his tail up has a very relaxed dock and I think thats why it's moving so much. The ears being back during some moments are mostly due to the difficulty of the maneuvers they are doing And i've seen horses flick their tails when they are having fun look up the dressage freestyle winner that mare positively loved her work and her tail was spinning away the whole time
ColorProduction 3 years ago
what an amzing discipline, they're very neat =)
teegerlilly1 4 years ago
no problem they are gorgeus aren't they? wish i could have one *sigh*
guinnessluver 4 years ago 2
me too... they are so sweet also! they came to my town and I got to watch them... it was the best :D
they are so gorgeous...
jellybelly578 4 years ago
yeah i love them sooo much!!!
guinnessluver 4 years ago 2
those aren't lippizaners those are lusitinos they are two completely different breeds developed in two different places with two very different histories
hersheyluva 4 years ago
beautiful horses, but I'm not liking the tight side reins. My neck hurts watching this.
filmtrax242 4 years ago 2
very very nice
chocolatechip5fy 4 years ago
Oooh, Levade! You don't see many horses that can do that anymore.
EQFFX2LOSVU 4 years ago
Its a true art... and there were never many horses knowing how to do the levade or any of the other "ares altos" (capriole, pousada...). Its very hard to find a horse taught to do these things, but even harder to find a rider who can teach them how to.
SCMSL 4 years ago
These are definately iberian horses and NOT Lippizans but thx for the comments ;)
LadyLusitania 4 years ago
Lipizzans and Lusitanos are two different breeds. ;)
nowthatsatrot 4 years ago
They were origanally trained these moves for wars.They actually wee supposed to help save the riders life if nescessary. It is quite beautiful to know that they still do this in the high school although they will probably never use these moves in battle.But they are soooo gorgeous though. They performed beautifully!!
PFIET 4 years ago
there so nice,and there spanish , i likes them all so much.
horseeso7 4 years ago
Actually, horses like to be challenged like this. You would know that if you did it yourself...
missveland 4 years ago
But To me I don't see them being trained to do this as a natural thing. I'm not saying don't train horses. I'm just saying training them to perform tricks like this are a bit much.
IcedRoses3214 4 years ago
This is a bit much. Shouldn't horses be more...horse. rather than dancing carosel?
IcedRoses3214 4 years ago
Dressage is based on the natural movements of horses...it resembles how stallions impress mares..so simply put, dressage is based on what a lot of bird and mammals do, called the mating dance :D
pressdelete 4 years ago 2
so true
HoneySenpai1 4 years ago
Wauw this is high class education of great horses..... thank you for sharing this film with us....
Gazhelle 4 years ago
To the people who were saying that the neck arch is 'unattractive', these are heavily trained stallions which means the muscle that is typical of any stallion is enhanced. Not to mention the typical PRE and Lusitano head carriage is generally more rounded.
And to the person who says "All they do are rears", I sincerely hope that she knows how difficult it is for the horse to have the balance and strength to manage these manuvers on cue.
DeceptiveSight 4 years ago 2
the gray one with the gray mane is pretty damn cute ... (like the one with the gray gray mane, and the sorrel is really good ... actually all of them r cute for that matter
theworldofhorses 4 years ago
Having got one of this breed, I absolutely adore them. However dont like seeing shows like this, they look forced and wound up.
Storm288 4 years ago
all they do is rear... but I like the one where they sit on their haunches and do little rears. that is great... now im drifting off into dream that i'll ever have one of those ^^
solobattle 4 years ago
Similar to a circus.... These horses are obviouslky very talented and could perform better under less pressure.
saddlesforsale 4 years ago
I agree they look tense, which is really affecting their performance. But these guys probably do a "show" every day for the tourists, and it's hard to keep horses fresh with that sort of schedule. Also, from working with Paso Finos (descended from Andalusians), I've learned that when this type of breed is being worked, they become quite firey, "hot", and almost combative, even though in stall and pasture they are placid and lazy AND well-treated.
Solteratube 4 years ago
The horses are Andalusians, so they have a naturally high/curled neck carriage, but I saw the draw reins on one of the horses, and they don't look like they have any slack. But I agree, the horses look too tense.
Bjorked 4 years ago
the lavade was good , but i liked the capriolle best
maplewoodfarmjumper3 4 years ago
Gorgeous horses, but excepting that levade that was mentioned previously, it looks like trick training to me. The horses look really stressed and nervous, their necks are always curled... it just doesn't look that pretty to me.
DressageReine 5 years ago
Great horse love to know how they do it
horse989 5 years ago
Honestly, the Ledvade at 1:09 was the most impressive to me... the piaffe was active, but not consistant, but that levade was nice, its rare you see one with such collection
gryphonkeen 5 years ago
one word: amazing =]
ruunfreee 5 years ago
Oh my O_O
Those horses are stressed and totally NOT collected
Just look at the ´piaffe´.
There is really no collection at all!!
Sky212 5 years ago
Sky212 i agree totally. The heads are tied so tight that they are behind the vertical. in the thesaurus of equitation, this would be listed as the opposite of the Spanish Riding School and their TRUE classical piaffes and levades!
bbbask 2 years ago 4
their sooo cute...
Yayoisama 5 years ago
beautifull horses but not impressed.
Way to tensed...
SilverSammet 5 years ago
pause it at 3:30...the horses looks amazing!
JayJay62 5 years ago
wow...these horses are beautiful!
JayJay62 5 years ago
Niiice horses!
highhorse313 5 years ago
Just plain gorgeous. I would love to see how they train them.
equinequeen 5 years ago
Fantastic video. Was this Jerez?
WhitmoreLusitanos 5 years ago