Gates Agrees to Proposal to Repeal Gay Ban

[JesusNonEnviromental]

If you're born a gay and decide that you like women, can you be classified as a gay heterosexual. If you're born a gay and you decide to be celibate does that make you a homophobic gay? Im confused

[JesusNonEnviromental]

Homosexuals or Gays are being recognized as a social class based on their actions. Are we classifying people as a segment of society based on actions, a black man is born black, a woman is born a woman, a hispanic is born a hispanic, a homosexual is not born having sex with a man. I've never seen such twisted logic to excuse this type of sexual behavior. Lets claim that drunks are a segment of society that enjoy alcohol, smokers shouldnt be discriminated if people are classified by actions.

[davidls11]

@JesusNonEnviromental Sexual preference is not the same as whether you like chocolate or vanilla ice cream. Stop being a fool. Oh wait, judging by your name that ship has sailed.

[JesusNonEnviromental]

@davidls11 A black man can prove he is black by showing you the color of his skin, a hispanic can show you he's hispanic by his heritage, a woman can show you shes a woman which you learned in health class, but a gay man has no destinction other than he can show you some home movies of his sexual fantasies and urges, I hope you understand now what Im trying to show is a class of people that show their sexual activities as proof of who they are.

[MyaTJohnsoned]

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[Klacesheb]

@chitown-blah-blah-run this!. Until you n most the other judgementalists on here have got sumet t say that makes sense or in least' dosnt make you sound like a freak! Please dont bother!- just look at wot shit you's chat! Ff's! Shows me another reason this planet so doomed cos I tel u all fact! YOU BIGOTED scary people are more dangerous than any 'Gay' will ever be!. Go boil ya heads! Kiss-kiss!

[Chitownrunthis]

fags should all die nobody is buying your media bullshit

[fanagot]

The world is watching homophobes, racists and other bigots dancing all over and trying to mantain the upper hand. If the Obama adm doesn't win over, it'll show the american nation to be a weak place indeed.

[Klacesheb]

@zerackid. Wtf? Goodjob no one died and made you a 'god'.. Only someone believing in a hell would say that!!. If only your hatred alongside others on here could be directed towards child abusers! Gay/biosexual's atleast their not having sex with children!

[Texasjim2007]

Everybody had an equal number of biological parents of opposite genders. This Gay religious cult bullshit claiming male prostitutes spreading AIDS masturbating in somebody's rectum is equal to biological sex the survival of the human race and

production of future voters, soldiers, and taxpayers depend on wants us all dead.

[Texasjim2007]

Over 25 million people have died of AIDS so far which is 20 times as many dead

people as every soldier killed in Vietnam. The only thing you need to stick your dick in somebody for is to make babies because jacking off in your hand will give you the same cum spurt as a male prostitute masturbating in somebody's rectum.

[zerackid]

Well all gay people going to burn in hell forever and ever and ever.....

[GaiasBatweasel]

@YellowYoshiEgg

1. This is America.

2. America is the land of Opportunity, either be getting a job, or fucking your mother again on a Friday night.

3. People are expected to have Equal Rights, Civil Rights, And the Right To Be Who They Are. If you want me to treat you different because you are straight let say...You can't cook, You Can't Sew, You can't even Go Shopping for Clothes of Groceries because you are not Gay. How do you feel knowing that you can't do nothing? Trapped in your home....

[vj198]

only a retard(brainwashed zombie) would join the army !

[fuckliao]

imagine a gay man gettin shot on the battlefield and his aids infest blood splatters all over you. wouldnt be too good.

[jusitke07]

Why is that when it comes to DADT, sex is the first thing that comes to mind? Aren't Homosexuals & Bisexuals capable of professionalism in the miltiary? How about the ones in the military right now as we speak folks?

[biometricsislavery]

Leave your soft wife at home to be thousands of miles away in some barracks full of sweaty men? I guess they are all Gay!!

[TheRamenAvenger]

@YellowYoshiEgg I dunno, is that what happened when your dad told you he was gay and you were a butt baby?

[TheRamenAvenger]

@YellowYoshiEgg Oh mah god boy kissin' boy LAWDY THE SKY GON' FALL DOWN ON MAH TRAILER PARK!!!

[iknewitalready]

with 10% Unemployment rates in USA

the only hiring sign in America is the US Military.

repeal discrimination to recruit people to fight perpetual WARS overseas

DRAFT coming soon in USA

[Evasively]

All the sleazy homophobes on this page should be ashamed of themselves, spouting nonsense about lip-gloss and other BS. There are many gay men who are not feminine in any way at all. They just happen to be gay. The really feminine men you are all making fun of wouldn't be joining the military in the first place!

[762lenny]

the soldiers can't wait to have gay parades in the Afghan desert - it will be a great celebration. The pink outfits and headbands just might turn heads - probably the wrong ones though.

[GaiasBatweasel]

People who are against Gays fighting in the military, are Terrorists.

[Chingconggiggity]

"Dont forget the lipgloss girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Work that shit girlfriend *snaps fingers work it* Now I want you all to give me a few bend and snaps lets do it beeeeeeennnnndddd and snap!!! Now lets practice our march!!!!! Private Marshall why are you not switching? More emphasis on your ass!!!!!! We are going to bring fabulous to a whole new high and we will show our enemies that we put the D in va DIVA girlfran okay!!!" <---- The new drill sergant LOOOL

[TheRamenAvenger]

@Chingconggiggity So much work to try to be funny and yet complete failure to make it happen.

[Chingconggiggity]

@TheRamenAvenger hey its not my fault I cant give a full explanation out due to youtube 500 character limit

[Chingconggiggity]

@Chingconggiggity I think this is one of many examples as to why people are afraid of this whole no DADT thing. Theyre human too and if theyre fighting for a good cause then whats the big deal? (ASIDE FROM RELGION)

[patsagainstrats]

Imagine a gay soldier getting shot and his AIDS splashes on you. That can't be good for morale.

[fuckliao]

@patsagainstrats HAhahahahahaHAHAH wtf i fell off my chair reading your comment. naise

[JOS3EMMANUEL]

i tought u were a fag for not going to war

now ur a fag for going anyways??? hmmm thats confusing.... hehehe

[geargemartin]

don't they know our gays are to precious to risk in combat????:(

[WinterHaven]

OHHH Lordy Lordy Westborough Baptist church is going to picket some more dead soldier's graves and chant God Hates the Fags!!

[WinterHaven]

Gay soldiers can FLAME the enemy and shock them to submission!!

[WinterHaven]

@WinterHaven They can swish and confuse them!

[WinterHaven]

OOOHH LOrdy Lordy Where is Westborough God Hates Fags church when you need them!! Remember God hates the fags, and if you are gay he hates you too!

[MaladaptiveCatalyst]

1 Million Gay Veterans...damn that's a lot of loose assholes.

[wntoply6]

as a gay veteran of the viet nam era, i applaud this action.

if repealed it will be one indication insanity, ignorance, bigotry and hate are one step closer to being put in the closet where they belong.

[TheTravisChannel]

Looks like the armed forces are about to be FABULOUS!

[MaladaptiveCatalyst]

@TheTravisChannel  HAHA!! friggen hilarious

[ipukesnshine]

Isn't it strange that the government is willing to lift 'don't ask don't tell' yet will not address rights for gays regarding marriage and adoption? Why is it that gay people have the right to die for their country but not to love openly?

[MaladaptiveCatalyst]

@ipukesnshine because gay people are second class citizens to the religious right...and quote on quote Liberals want to remain career politicians and in order to do so need to bend over and take it up the ass by the church (pun intended)

[wideawake123]

What does this do to increase the war fighting capabilities of our armed forces? While one thing that's Is certain is that reenlistments will diminish. A recent poll among servicemen shows this...so I repeat: What does this do to increase the war fighting capabilities of oue armed forces?

Gates should be the next to tender his resignation.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 Its not ment to increase fighting capabilities its ment to make the military fair to all that give all in defence to the nation.

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 Our armed forces aren't tasked to be "fair", their job is to kill people and blow stuff up. DADT doesn't excluded gays from serving their country, it excludes those who refuse to put aside their sexual impulses for the privelege of doing so. When discussing this issue, the Commandant of the Marine Corps raised the same question I did. So why should we destroy our capabilties for the sake of fashion?

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 first thing not everyone in the military have a job whos mission is to kill or blow stuff up. Seconde DADT does not improve military capabilities nore does it diminish, removeing DADT would boost the moral of Gay service members and as a leader I think thats the most important part of leading anybody.

[cobrakilla1]

@cobrakilla1 Morale*

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 No, you didn't mispell it ck...the root of the word morale is moral. Think about that. Also, why would you destroy the moral of 98.5% of your fighting force to boost the morale of 1.5%(maybe)? Also, are you suggesting treating gays like women and barring them from combat? Your opinion of DADT is just that...You opinion, it has nothing to do with the facts. Shall I continue?

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 ok lets asy 98.5% of the military is not gay that does not mean that 98.5% are anti-gay or por DADT.Im not gonna say that all military personnel are for the repeal but i would go as far to say that there is more service men and women that it would not matter or would want the repeal. To answer your question no im am not against gays from serving in combat and it think men and women can be succesful in combat. If you feel you must continue please do.

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 A poll by Military Times showed that between 10% and 25% of those who are currently in the military said, “I’m not going to serve.” I've seen other polls(I believe of combat soldier) where the pervcentage was much higher. We're fighting 2 wars and retention is crucial. This is not the time to be "stylish", like the european armies which are completeley useless(The Dutch Army's performance in Kosovo ring any bells?)...cont

[wideawake123]

Answer a few Questions:

1. The "don't ask, don’t tell policy of homosexuals serving in the military works. Why change something that isn't broken?

2. Would gays serving in their own formations work?

3. Would a chromosomally male, surgically and chemically altered to RESEMBLE a chromosomally legitimate female, be allowed to enter, or continue, service as a so-called "woman"?

5. Would REAL WOMEN want to shower with a male MASQUERADING as a female?...cont

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 1.Its forces people to lie (honesty&integrity).2.They would be as effective but segregation is not what any1 wants.3.Not that i know of.5 I dont think so but thats not being proposed

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 1. It doesn't force people to lie. It forces them not to act on their impulses. 99.9% of the force is straight, the force is fine with DADT. they dont really Want to know the guy billeted with them, next to them in the showers wants to fuck them(5)just like women in the service who wouldn't want to be forced to shower while men were staring at them fantacizing about fucking Them. It's the same thing. Exactly the same thing.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 I realy dont think a gay person is gonna join the military for 12 weeks worth of 5min showers. You or anyone els that thinks gay people wanna fuck every guy that they see are realy stupid. I personaly have taken a community shower whith a few people that where gay and it was not a problem for any of us. So you know people only shower together in boot camp realy and its a big blurr no one is thinking about anything.

[budavol]

@wideawake123 A homosexual is NOT a "male masquerading as a female." A male homosexual is a...male.

Is your biology THAT limited, bigoted 'bitch?

[wideawake123]

6. If homosexuals can shower with Men, can men shower with women?

7. What is the logical difference, if any, in question number six?

8. Would YOU trust your sergeant to make an impartial decision on whether you, or the "next guy", were going to attack a bunker with a satchel charge if the "next guy" was the sergeant's boy-toy?

9. Would YOU want to be in a squad bay with the snit fits, jealous rages, passive-aggressive retaliation, and 'cliques' of various proclivities?

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 6.No bathrooms are separated by sex not sexuality.7.tell me if my answer is not logical.8.Anyone thats at the rank of Sgt has earned my trust.9.what?

[wideawake123]

It's the exact same thing dude. Now, You're the "hot blond", and your being forced to shower and undress in front of men who want to fuck you. Are you getting this? Gays watching men shower, sleeping next to them...is the same thing as a woman being forced to shower with and sleep next to men...horny men. 8. William Calley was a Lt....does He earn your trust? Aren't you the guy who 2 years ago was calling Gen. David Petreus "Betrayus"? Hypocrite..

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 Its not the same straight men are more likely to harass females and have sex. Do you think people are gonna have sex with straight people in the shower or 2 co-ed straight people?

[wideawake123]

10. In many circumstances a man looking at a woman is considered as “sexual harassment”; will this be more or less strictly enforced with homosexuals leering at men in the shower?

11. What is a heterosexual supposed to do, if in a multiple bunking situation, two (or more) homosexuals are ‘getting it on’ within view or hearing?

12. Some ranks have semi-private (2-3 man) what is a soldier supposed to do if a homosexual “couple” expropriate the living accommodations?...cont

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 10.Im no lawyer and that between the parties involed.11. leave the room and report it if they feel to do so.12. If they feel discomfort ask to be transferred.

[wideawake123]

No, it isn't "between the parties involved" and that's the point.The USAFs job #1 is to kill people and blow shit up, not play games with people of varying sexual proclivities in the barracks...it's BAD FOR MORAL Europe's integrated armies are worthless do you understand when I say the Dutch army was tied up...to trees by the Serbs. The "experiment" FAILED. You think Some FOB commander has nothing better to do than rearrange living quarters for the troops?

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 what you are useing to support your opinion is not proven to be caused by gays serveing openly. what byou are saying is that the military is not mentally strong enough to take orders from gay people and that gays are not succesful leaders and aren not worthy of fighting for you.

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 Ok, so then European countries armed forces aren't as useless as tits on a bull in your little world. It doesn't change the fact that while repealing DADT will certainly weaken the force, it serves no other purpose than satisfying social democrats need for political correctness. Beyond that what does it accomplish? "well it allows gays to serve their country OPENLY"...let 'em join the USO "Openly! DADT works. Why weaken the force on a whim?

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 Tell me how gays openly serving would weaken the force and give me a real difinite answer and not some speculatory Bullshit

[wideawake123]

Retention-Morale-Reenlistment. Start there, and then work back through all the other issues I already raised. Besides stroking the egos and cow-towing to social democrats and 1% of the population of the US(gays), what does it accomplish?

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 all the issues you stated where outrageous,stupid,homophobic,b­ullshit that was not proven or even true.Lol You pulled so crazy scenarios with no presidence out of your ass. At the least use something that has happend at least once.

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 You know what...Fuck you. The last resort of someone with no argument is call people names. You called me...AND the Commandant of the Marine Corps "homophobic". The nerve of you. At least I'm in good company. We all will get along just fine without continuing to wetnurse you through this discussion. Have a nice day with your ad hominems and bad spelling. We're done here.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 typing fast happened* and all i did was sum up what you said into one word and it applies to who ever thinks not knowing someone is gay makes good fighters but knowing someone is will change the phsyical and mental strength of people. Do understand how stupid that sounds?

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 You know...the only reason we're even able to have this conversation is because rough, heterosexual men stood between those who would impose tyranny upon us, upon You and freedom. I stood a post. I have a say. You tea-sandwich. Your freedom didn't come from the ACLU, or Code Pink. Obama and the rest of you leftist "social democrats" only Have a say because of men like General Conway whom You called a homophobe. We're done here.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 Lets make this clear,you said homosexuals shouldnt serve because they would make irrational decisions,make trained service members fell uncomfortable,and they cant be rough. By the definition of homophobia(-Irrational fear of,aversion to,or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals) this makes you a homophobe. it does not matter what rank you are or even if you served or not discrimination is wrong.

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 Let me make This clear. Go up to the top of the tread, to my initial comment and the quote by General Conway. That is all. My fater served this country. My Uncles served this country. My Cousins served this country. I served. My Nephews are serving. Your opinions and attempts to potray me And General Conway as homophobes has been noted. Now Fuck Off, this conversation is over.

[budavol]

@wideawake123 MANY homosexuals have served in the American military. Do you deny this, bigoted 'bitch? Do you think they should all receive dishonorable discharges?

[davidls11]

@wideawake123 There have always been gay men in the military. And if you want to give someone credit for opposing tyranny and protecting our freedom, look up the name Alan Turing.

[wideawake123]

@davidls11 "Openly gay"? Moving on, Bradley Manning was gay too, how much credit should we give Him? I dismantled 'cobrakiller' 1/2 a year ago on this forum...and others on more recent ones. The worst spy ring in UK history were gays. As was the worst in US Military history. In addition, the recent polls are BS. They polled Everyone in the Military...and their Families! Compare Those poll #s with the poll #s from soldiers and marines at the front. They are inverse of what they're selling.

[davidls11]

@wideawake123 Look, the bottom line is that DADT is history. The military won't fall apart and the world won't come to an end. The bigots will just have to get used to it.

[wideawake123]

@davidls11 "history" huh? That why they vote, you know, in the Congress? The time stamp on this video says what? About 28 "Thursdays" ago, they were "getting ready to vote on DADT", now, during the most contentious lame duck session in my lifetime, you think they're gonna bring This to a vote? They cant get a quarum on keeping the tax cuts...and the neo-democrats squeeze more mileage out of DREAM. This crap is designed to rat-fuck the Soldiers, The "guineapigs" Will wind up being 'fragged".

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 you still never answered my question why are you not in the military?

[wideawake123]

I told, I served during the Reagan administration. Were'nt you paying attention? I have a nephew just back from Iraq and one in the Marines getting ready to ship out. I have a dog in this fight...I always have. Most of the people who are for repeal never served a day, or stood a post. I'd appreciate it if you let this go, I'm sick of discussing this. The whole idea makes me sick, that you think Gays have a right to foist their sexuality on Soldiers!

[wideawake123]

13. If a woman may use extreme force to prevent sexual assault by a male; may a soldier use extreme force to prevent sexual assault by a homosexual?

14. Is the military going to be forced to have separate homosexual heads and regular heads for normal people?(yes..I said "normal")

15. What about public displays of “affection”?

16. WHICH subspecies or perversion will next demand accommodation?

17. WILL the next subspecies be accommodated too?

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 13.yes.14 do you have separate heads in college dorms or in restaurants? 15. PDA in uniform is banned for straights why would it change for gays.16.that is real ignorant of you to say that.

[wideawake123]

14. Yeah...of course there are seperate facilities for men and women. 16. No, it isn't isn't. Which will the next group... Quadruplegics? Nazis? Pedophiles? Convicted rapists? I'm still waiting for an explantation as to how the worlds most highly trained and deadliest army benefits from losing as much as a quarter of it's combat forces for sake of being more like Europes Useless Armies? Now we're gay...watch out Jihadis. Tied to trees!

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 14.men and women not gay or straight thats my point. Thats Bullshit a quarter of the military did not say that they would not reenlist if DADT was repesaled get byour facts right. Well if any of thoses people could pass the ASVAB,Phsyical or the backround check which they wont they could get it in. You dont know anything about the military dude.LOL

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 Yeah...they did, in a survey in The Military Times. "...as many as 25% said they wouldn't reenlist." While your "argument" unravels, keep thinking of an answer to the statement of the Marine Corps Comandant. How does allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the USAFs improve the war fighting capabilities of the army, navy airforce or marine corps. You can't answer...neither can anyone else in favor of repealing DADT.

[cobrakilla1]

This is not a matter of improveing fighting capabilites is a matter of rights. you sill didnt tell me how gays being open would hurt fighting capabilities. and i already adressed the General's comment below. as for the survey that was taken in 2008 25% of troops may say they wont reenlist but they wont act on and those that do just prove that they are weak and are just dead weight anyway.

[wideawake123]

@cobrYeah I did tell you...you just refuse to accept the facts as every study by the Army, Navy, Airforce and Marines show. I demand you either produce one shred of evidence that letting homsexuals serve openly improves the war fighting capabilities of the AFs which was my 1st question to you, or quit bothering me. I'm bored with this.argument.

[budavol]

@wideawake123 Are you equating homosexuals with Nazis and pedophiles? God, you are beneath contempt, bigoted 'bitch.

[wideawake123]

While formulating your answers to these questions, ask yourself again, would you want your Gay platoon leader to repeatedly send Your squad "up the middle" while his boyfriend's squad always acted as "rear-gaurd"? Do you think this would never happen? Are you that naieve? Why are we doomed to constantly repeat Europe's failed experiments? We aren't them. The Serbs tied up the Dutch soldier's hand then committed mass murder.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 Platoon leaders take orders and execute them the planers are never on the battlefield for saftey of the mission and intel. Thats just Bullshit

[wideawake123]

No it isn't and what ever gave you the idea that Platoon Leaders and Company leaders DONT LEAD? The fucking Chairman of the Joint Chiefs takes orders too...He also leads formulates and executes battle plans, as do Division Leaders, Battalion Leaders, Company Leaders, Platoon Leaders and Squad Leaders. So yeah, a Gay Platoon leader might sacrifice my nephew to save his gay lover. Only a fool would dispute that possibility.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 I know they all take orders and they all dont fight. The NCO's arry out the attacks that are planed by military planers who are never on the front lines. Anyone who his on the front lines gets the orders for what they need to do they dont know the whole battle plane to insure mission safety. Its called the chain of command learn about it.

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 You haven't a clue...have you. You think there are "plans" when a firefight breaks out? You think the chain of command reaches beyond the ranking person on scene when a platoon gets ambushed? Work on your spelling while you figure out that you have no argument here...and worse still, no understanding of combat.

[wideawake123]

Now...If you feel you have an answer worty of posting do so. I believe that if you will have to compromise your morals and good judgement to answer these questions, there is nothing taboo in your book. Is it that you despise the fact that the USAFs are the greatest military power in history? Is that what bothers you about allowing Gays to serve, so long as they "keep it in their pants"...and why Can't they do that?

[wideawake123]

Finally I quote: “Unless we can strip away the emotion, the agenda, and the politics...and ask...do we somehow enhance the war fighting capabilities of the United States Marine Corps by allowing homosexuals to openly serve, then we haven't addressed it from the correct perspective.”-General James Conway, the Commandant of the Marine Corps. In testimony to the House Armed Services Committee February 24 There it is in a nutshell for you.

[cryingfoul1]

@wideawake123 Don’t think about this too hard, or you’ll lose you mind. OOpps, too late.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 I answered all your question now you anser mine...Have you ever served in the military?

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 Yes, I have, during the Reagan Administration.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 The policy on sex whould be as is why change it. and the USAF is the best Air Force in the would but the greatest military power I would have to say is the US Navy only because the Virginia class subs. The first military force to have the capablity to level a country from complet safety.

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 “Unless we can strip away the emotion, the agenda, and the politics...and ask...do we somehow enhance the war fighting capabilities of the United States Marine Corps by allowing homosexuals to openly serve, then we haven't addressed it from the correct perspective.”-Commandant of the USMC

1. You have no logical reply to this common sense statement.

2. You certainly are nowhere near as informed or intelligent as Gen. Conway.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 Just need to point out to you that you talk a lot of shit for someone that dies not serve in the military. How about you enlist to fight and stop trying to keep someone who wants to out. Every gay person that serves is more of a man than you could ever hope to be. .

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 As for Gen.Conway it sound like he just said that Marines are Man enough to run towards gun fire but knowing that something as natural as a gay person looking at them would cause them to lose focus on the task at hand means he just said he is a failure as a leader and as a Marine. but i hope that im wrong about that.

[wideawake123]

@cobrakilla1 Oh, I see...anyone smarter than you and less willing to ratfuck the USAFs for the sake of being stylish is a "homophobe"...and certainly the COMMANDANT of the Marine Corps(a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) is a "failure as a leader"...I mean really. Do you see how idiotic your whole argument is? You really don't have one do you...besides the political correct angle...why? Here's your chance.

[cobrakilla1]

@wideawake123 Good because I am to and I already told you that it does not have a negative or positive effect on the battlefield it lets people be open and happy with the job that they are doing. You and all other people that oppose the repeal just dont like the idea that someone that has a bad rep. for being soft and weak could do something better than you or just as good. The sad thing is that your to weak of a person to do what they are doing.

[budavol]

@wideawake123 Oh, well, I see you are bigoted against homosexuals as well. Why is no one surprised, bigoted 'bitch?

[freethinker48]

leave them damn gay people alone. trying to make people live a lie. thou shall not lie is the commandment not thou shall not be gay.

[wideawake123]

@freethinker48 Refering to the Bible to make your argument for openly gay servicemen in the military is ridiculous. here's why:

1. The Commandment is--Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor...not "thou shalt not tell".

2. According to the Bible, homosexuality IS a sin.

[freethinker48]

@wideawake123 so  is stupidity, so you all will go to hell. by the way the bible talk more about stupidity and fool being a sin than homosexual. you must be a closet queen. why you so worried about what people are doing in their bed room. as long as they are not molesting children is their business.

[ch1aka2]

I still don't get it. Why should straight people care what other people do in bed in the privacy of their own homes?

[zweg2]

@ch1aka2

And what they do in public. Straight people don't want to see gay affection in public either. It's just an unfortunate social standard that all couples have to be opposite sex.

[1Makyo]

@ch1aka2 IF THAT IS ALL THERE WAS TO IT NO ONE WOULD EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT WOULD THEY?

[WinterHaven]

@ch1aka2 They take showers together?

[TAMARLANE]

I wonder what the Obama administration has on Gates?

[BertGriffin88]

Imagine the juvenile fun that can be had by those that prodeuce enlisted & officer rank badges. It's 2010 America, why is this still a problem? We're not talking rapers, molesters, monsters, if a person is not sexually insane then an individual's sexual preference should be just that, their preference. Good luck military, yall have so much more to worry about.

[JoeAverage86]

Gays are bad news

[ch1aka2]

What are straight people so afraid of?

[TAMARLANE]

@ch1aka2 Some straight people are afraid of the vile vulgar unygienic practices of homosexuals.Some straight people think it is an abomination, an affront to God and a crime against nature. Some straight people are afraid their children will be corrupted to believe that a homosexual lifestyle, with all its practices, is acceptable. Some straight people are put off by the demands that homosexuals be tolerated. Some straights prefer respect over tolerance. Do something that they can respect

[TAMARLANE]

@TAMARLANE cont------

and you will get respect from straight people. Do something they find reprehensible, something they find to be intolerable behavior (THEY wouldn't do it, like felching for example) and they think it is ridiculous for you to ask them to tolerate it.

This is what some heterosexuals believe. This is what some of them say they are afraid of.

[Asiablue]

@ch1aka2 Making abnormal, normal. Allowing tollerance to cross the border to endorsement. Finding a legal formula that qualifies if it is nature or nurture. Enforcing that interpretation of law. Reversing traditonal responsibilities and values and thinking them ok. Amoral solipcism. Avoiding discrimination law suits. The push for social laws, beliefs and customs that institutionalize "anything goes."

[TAMARLANE]

@Asiablue Do you think ch1aka2 will respond or even bother to read your comments, or mine, here. Will it respond? Will it argue. Does it have a "pat" answer for every conceivable departure from acceptance of homosexuality?

[ch1aka2]

@TAMARLANE I feel sorry for you. Good luck on the other side.

[Asiablue]

@TAMARLANE Actually, no. But I should add that personal tolerance is not a problem. Endorsing homosexuality in any way is the problem. A buddy of mine in university was gay. So what? Giving his values legal force would be a very serious problem for all society. Tolerance, sure! Endorsement? Never.

[ch1aka2]

@Asiablue Well, it's legal in Canada where you are from. Why are Asain Canadians so homophobic?

[Asiablue]

@ch1aka2 It's legal in Canada because Paul Martin was desparate for votes in the national election he lost. That is the ONLY reason. No one will have the guts to repeal it unless Stephen Harper gets a majority govt.

[TheLxrose]

@ch1aka2 Most straight men don't want to shower, sleep, and share the restrooms with gay men.

[WinterHaven]

@TheLxrose Yeah the straight men might lose control and get some BOOTY! or some moist hot lips around their thingie!

[WinterHaven]

@ch1aka2 They may turn gay!

[MrSuperJuden]

Well then why not let guys and girls shower together then. homosexuals will basically have the same thing done for them.

[Klacesheb]

Poor obama. Poop gorden brown. Folk forget the ones who put such poor men in such positions. The same ones that tripped over the 'first ever dollar' (cough) blame them cos they cause it all! Predjudice,racism,war,cost etc etc! Same wit gays' why o why are boys fed/programmed tobe gay is wrong? G-spot is wer it is anyway!.

Live n let live!

[Nomolos2010]

Why do I have a VERY hard time believing that this is JUST about a ban on gays serving openly?

What else is up the sleeve here in this piece of legislation? The White House (Obama in particular) have proven time and again that there's ALWAYS more than meets the eye with his law proposal... what's in it for them?

[3ssay]

Noo! Don't do it Obama! If you guys allow gays to serve in the military, we Canadians won't get to brag (as much) about how much better Canada is better than the states!

[B4TT3RY]

@3ssay I'm sure you'll think of something

[Maximillion666]

The ban on gays is just stupid. Who the hell cares if some one is gay or not . If these people want to put there life on the line for there country god bless em.

[slytherinspy1960]

I agree with Dan Choi, what the hell do you need to study!?

[mykmmc]

hey if gay can be in congress why not in the millitary

[WinterHaven]

@mykmmc  YEAH MARK FOLEY!!

[quakertownjackass]

NOOO!!

[THEUTUBEHATER]

I see so many things wrong with this. Can the bedroom just be private. So male Lt are going to marry male Lt. Sorry about the gay thing and all.

I see recuiters having a harder time to recuit future soldiers. LOL liberals I think you retards just granted us with the draft! Thanks assholes.

Why would anybody join a gay military? Go RAINBOW.

[zweg2]

Sounds like a good idea. Doesn't matter your sexuality. Only problem is, gays are going to have to prove themselves as combat-ready fighters.

[l0gically]

@zweg2 You mean they'll have to give up their tutus and tea parties? Oh wait...

[B4TT3RY]

@zweg2 Gays are ALREADY combat-ready fighters. They served beside me, they served beside my father, his father, and they fought in the Revolutionary War.

[AngeloProduction]

lol for a moment i thought this was about Bill Gates.. make better titles AP.

[NtWEvil]

@AngeloProduction I agree with you. I was like, "Gates agrees WHAT?!?!" lol