Is Islam a Religion of Peace? ( Crossfire Session and Q & A - 4 of 4 )

[scorpion32]

Muhammed did not hit aisha if you read the whole tradition one of the miracles of the prophet was that he used to apply a force to the chest of the person to remove evil thoughts same way christians apply a force to the head

when you read it he walks away and she followed him and had bad thoughts so he applied this force

same for when a man came to the prophet he was struck by magic he applied this same force to the chest

[12walshie]

If i was interested in learning more about Islam and it Peaceful claim i would have to look at the life of its prophet, just as Christians follow Christianlty because of Jesus and what he taught and accomplished while on this earth. I have read a number of biographies of Mohammad and he did have some good characteristics but the bad ones outweighed the good by 100-1. Thank you for this debate, it has confirmed for me that the peaceful verses have indeed been abrograted. Which is another topic.

[scorpion32]

@12walshie

I think someone has been telling you porkies mate mohammed was the most peaceful person and he only used violence as a last resort to protect the oppressed orphans and poor

he even cared for his abusive neighbor who dumped rubbish on his doorstep by visiting him when he was sick

he followed the saying evil prevails when good men do nothing

I think if you honestly look at the prophet mohammeds seerah heres the links

/watch?v=6o8UmErRVZk

[NATURALboredKILLER]

2:192 But if they desist-behold, God is much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace

[NATURALboredKILLER]

2:192 But if they desist-behold, God is much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace

[NATURALboredKILLER]

2:191 And slay them wherever you may come upon them, and drive them away from wherever they drove you away - for oppression is even worse than killing. [168] And fight not against them near the Inviolable House of Worship unless they fight against you there first; [169] but if they fight against you, slay them: such shall be the recompense of those who deny the truth

[NATURALboredKILLER]

2:190  AND FIGHT in God's cause against those who wage war against you, but do not commit aggression-for, verily, God does not love aggressors.

[NATURALboredKILLER]

I believe it was the born again christian George Bush who talked to jesus, and jesus apparently told him to go attack Iraq and murder one million civilians. By the way the favorite verse of the missionaries and atheists will surprise you if quoted in its entirety.

[NATURALboredKILLER]

So the entire contention of the christian dudes rests upon certain questionable details of Islamic history. I challenge them to issue forth any major religion, ideology, or "system", which does not have a blot in its history. You cannot survive as an entity without defending yourself. Unlike the christian civilization where its wars were fought and continue to be fought because they find themselves with the burden of civilizing the unchristian beasts.

[NATURALboredKILLER]

Its unfortunate that brother Adnan Rashid was not part of this debate, i like him and by far hes more tenacious, knowledgeable, a fierce formidable debater then both yahya and Abdulla combined. BTW the skinny dark dude in the yellow shirt is not a "former Muslim", he used to belong to a cult called Qudainism, and now he belongs to, albeit a larger cult, but a cult nonetheless of christuanity.

[DikeVanDick]

both religions are bullshit, and people that believe in a 2000 year old book is a bafoon

[almao2006]

nadeel and David the two Idiots from the USA!!!!

Did Aischa(R) leaves Islam?

Did Ibn Isaak leaves Islam?

Did Al Boughary leaves Islam?

Did Ibn Abas leaves islam?

They are blind and deaf

[TUBNIT]

to add to that if Islam was a violent religion both would be dead by now :) PEACE

[Tarsier901]

@almao2006 hey idiot..if islam is peaceful religion why you attack xtians missionary and killed? stupid....

[Tarsier901]

@almao2006 dont deny the truth.....

[almao2006]

@Tarsier901 The Evidence that ISLAM is a Peacefull Religion. We were for 800 Years in SPAIN for 1000 Years in INDIA for 450 Years in Italy we rule Jerusalem for over 1300 Years. show me one Holocaust agaisnt Christians or Jews in the ISLAMIC World! Show how was the Behavior of the Muslims during the CRUSADE And show how was the Behavior of the Christians Idiot In islamic countries we have Christians Juden and even Hindu and Buddist in the Golf!! But Islam never know Holocaust or Inquisition!!

[Tarsier901]

@almao2006 blablabla..suiicide xtian cause only one but islam suicide cause hundred civilian died for bombing..wtf...all religion are bullshit..islam is worst...if u want peace dont bomb innocent people and dont talk shit other religion...RESPECT

[MrGrandDragon]

The Final marching orders were to FIGHT those who FIGHT YOU or impose a threat to your stability like ANY OTHER civilisation would do. The prerogative of any state is to PROTECT its people.

Ibn Katheer himself highlighted this in the context of his summery. The Romans were a threat.

[Mohannad192]

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"Fight for the sake of God those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. God does not love the aggressors. Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is more grievous than bloodshed.... Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Gods religion reigns supreme."

2:256 which says: "Let there be no compulsion in religion.

[Mohannad192]

Im really so disappointed with this video the two arguers in the name of Islam should stated from the beginning the verse from al baqara about fighting and that would be the end of it and the whole verse is

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