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  • Thank you for sharing this video. I am studying for my practical test and this video is helping me to understand better the  use and the benefits of the Negative Pressure Wound Therapy (V.A.C devices). My best regards.

  • I always "picture frame" the peri wound on wound vacs to protect the intact skin. I also wear gloves. I noticed there were some areas not covered by the foam. She did a good job, I guess we all do things differently, not that one is right or wrong, but gloves is the one thing that everyone should utilize. Had she had any MRSA or VRE or any other BAD bugs on her hands, not good... UNIVERSAL PRECAUTIONS!!

  • You may not realize this, but that is actually a really nice looking wound. They did a great job with your leg

  • wound vacs are done by clean technique NOT aseptic. although, i would've used gloves as standard precaution.

  • Iunno what these people are talking about... I see gloves =) Glad you're doing much better... Very hard to recover from such things

  • I am an RN. Wound care is done with the strictest aseptic technique which was lacking by Pilar. I would ask her to use the aseptic technique she was taught. I hope your wound has healed. Today, patients need to be their own advocates unfortunately. I would not hesitate to ask anyone who is doing an invasive procedure to use a hand sanitizer (witnessed) or wash their hands thoroughly. With all the nasty drug resistant bugs out there, do not hesitate to request that your home health nurse practic

  • whats the name of this song?

  • Hey there, I am also using a wound vac as I type.. Diabetes caused complications and part of my foot had to be removed. I am feeling some hope from watching your video. Thank you very much for sharing.

  • thanks for posting this. i watched it for the nursing process as i am a nursing student going to be doing one of these soon. very informative!

  • @kandeez I'm glad you found this video to be somewhat helpful. However, please do not use this video as your guide to changing the wound vac. I am an RN and I change vacs daily. I believe this video was posted in 2007 and wound care changes frequently. Not to mention that the good nurse Pilar made some errors in judgement and aseptic technique. Please check your facility's protocol and nurse educator before attempting to change a wound vac. Good luck in school!

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  • we watched this video in our patient care class, and our teacher is a retired ER RN and she said nothing about her not wearing gloves-all she said was being that she wore gloves at the appropriate tim; that the remaining time it was optional. I think she did a fantastic job re-dressing your wound! There was no sign of infection, the exposed tissue/muscle was healing amazingly! Her fingers never actually touched the exposed area, so I am A-okay with how she proceeeded with redressing the wound!

  • She did wear gloves during the removal of the bandag, getting the soiled dressing off. I too take my gloves off once I have removed the old dressing. I simply stay clear of the wound. Myself I feel I can do a better job by sealing up the wound and without the gloves. This to keeps my patients from me having to go back thru the procedure again. My finger tips against the plastic asures me it is tight and I can start the wound vac. I think she done a great job! The video did not lose credibility!

  • I want to thank you for this video. My hubby is having wound vac therapy now. I wanted to find out what this treatment is and you video is good. Except for when your nurse take the gloves off. Thanks for the video. Because of this video I have a better understanding as to what is happening to my husband. He is too far away for me to be with him . Thanks...

  • one word OUCH!

  • To the GLOVE comments; unless you are using sterile gloves and sterile technique, gloves WILL NOT prevent infection. Actually, if she washed her hands, the chance of infection is lower without gloves. Think about where the box of gloves has been.. open, in a bag, full of bacteria. You don't wash gloves right? The only reason she would have worn gloves was to protect herself not him! I too am a nursing student. Yes I would wear gloves for my protection. She did nothing wrong here!

  • @Turtlella I agree . . . she did wear gloves at the beginning . . . and just took them off when she was putting the dressing back on and I do this a lot, but just making sure I don't touch the side that goes directly to the wound because the gloves get in the way, especially if you are dealing with teguderms and tapes =D

  • Gloves are not necessary, the chance of infection is virtually nil. The wound vac sucks all drainage from the wound so any bacteria that may have gotten there during the dressing change would end up in the vac. Had it been a regular dressing change then gloves should be worn. Nurse Pilar did an awesome job. So, my point is, learn the job before you criticize the job!

  • Thanks for posting this!

  • i have a wound vac on my stomach and yes it does hurt a little when they turn it back on haha. but yea its basically the same steps but you get something to numb your leg hell i dont kinda jealous on that part but im glad to hear that you was able to do the things you love to do after going through such a change.

  • how did that work out? My husband starts this tomorrow on his gut wound....

  • @Firecat7409

    Well I did all of my treatments and all without pain medications. they tried them, but my body doesn't break them down like they should...so I was SOL.

  • Ok...I've played soccer most of my life...how did you do that? I apologize if you answered it already, but that looks like some sort of "turf burn" or something...glad to read that you healed and made full recovery.

  • I feel your pain, man. Last year I was in a car accident, and my right ankle got shattered right at the joint. After the surgery the entire area where they sewed me up died, and after they debri'ed it, I ended up with a 7x3" wound, which was a half inch deep. I was issued a woundvac also, and I know how inconvenient they can be. Hope your leg is fine now. It's been almost a year, and my ankle is still very stiff, and my wound is STILL there. Anyway, Thanks for uploading the vid. I could relate.

  • Thank you soooo much for this video. I have never had to endure healing from such a traumatic wound, but knowing that such a great therapy is out there to assist in better healing is wonderful. Your Nurse Pilar was fantastic, you were very lucky to have such a kind and gentle person help you through such a tough time. Again, thanks for sharing your xeperience!

  • =0000 OOOUUUUUCCCHHHHHHHHHH

  • Thanks for posting this. Facing the wound vac with my husband after a fall from a ladder breaking his leg and the bones coming through. Doctor says he's still at risk of loosing his leg, but are going to try the wound vac. Glad you're doing better and playing soccer again!

  • that is very educational. I am doing my clinicals in school right now and i have been inspired to treat wounds. i am now working at a wound clinic and i think that she did a great job

  • I am a nursing student at the University of Alberta, and our lab instructors have directed us to this video as a resource - nice work Nurse Pilar, and thanks for posting Gunner!

  • thats great. i believe she did a great job. i wish i could have a great pt like you

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  • I actually had a wound vac used on me 2 years ago after I had complications with my c-section. I had a nurse come to my home and change the dressing every 2 days. Its was a good experience however it was painful to remove the adhesive because of the area it was placed. I am grateful that my doctors made the recommendation for it as my c-section wasnt healing properly while I was in the hospital. I would use this again if I had to.

  • Blah! I have to wear one of those things too, thanks to a C-section infection. I feel his pain...Though not in the leg. --_--;

  • @metalhead0335 Yeah I wore one due to complication from a c-section 2 years ago.

  • Good video. My son has bi lateral compartment syndome on left leg. Big mess and hopsital run around. He has been at risk of losing the leg and his life. 16 days and many hospital changes later, they finally started wound vac. I am encouraged by your video. I assisted in applying the wound vac yesterday.

  • im so so so sorry.....im a girl and i actually didnt get too grossed out:P

    but im gunna be honest....i cried, i just cried for you....your so brave and strong. its really amazing, good luck with everything:)

  • I thank you for sharing this video with the public to show them what Wound VAC's are all about. I'm a wound care nurse and deal with these on a daily basis :) And I agree with the fact that your nurse probably shoulda been wearing gloves lol

  • i have a vac on right now on my stomach due to bypass surgery.. If is so painful when nurse changes dressing.. course mine is about 3 inches deep...

  • ahhh

  • Good job.

  • What happened?

  • soccer injury

  • turned her back on sterile field. tsk tsk j/k tho when you're in school, they're a real stickler about breaking sterility

  • There is no sterile field..this is a clean procedure, not a sterile one.

  • still in a clean procedure, gloves are a necessity!

  • what are you talking about? she is wearing gloves...

  • for most of it she is, but when she's touching the foam and altering it to fit, she's with out gloves!

  • This demonstrated the tediousness of trying to fit a piece of rigid foam into a wound, the clipping and fitting (contaminating , no gloves) still resulted in a dressing that did not cover the wound bed completely AND the pt did state that the painful part was turning the vacuum on.

    Gauze is easier to fit, less painful and same clinical efficacy.

  • my best friend is going through the same thing you are!!!! cept hers is on her heel and its more tendon than anything thats showing!!!

  • The first and foremost concept taught in nursing 101 is hand hygiene/infection control. Gloves, either clean or surgical depending upon the situation, should be worn in the presence of ALL bodily fluids with the exception of sweat. Microorganisms are no respecter of persons, nurse or patient. This nurse did not care about the patient's well-being, she cared about taking shortcuts for whatever reason.

  • @nyphistral True I agree. in the long run she or the patients will devevlop something and not sure where they picked up the germ from. if u want to play russian rulet with your life fine but not the patients.

  • nice celtic towel ;)

  • Well I am glad u r ll well again however, the 'nurse' may be sweet but she has a professional responsibility to conduct herself in a professional manner perhaps more so if she plans on allowing it to be open to world wide scrutiny. The good thing is perhas she will alter her poor nursing habit in the future. As i said, glad to hear all went wll for you though :)

  • @colwacka True. I agree. 

  • sorry..this video lost all credibility with NO GLOVES!

  • Alright I got the picture.... no one agrees with my nurse's choice to not wear gloves. I would like to tell everyone though that my wound healed up just fine. In fact I was able to play soccer my senior year when most doctors believed I would not be able to walk again.

  • My nurse may not have conducted the exact protocol for wound dressings, however she was one of the sweetest women I have ever met. Healing does not entirely involve sterile wound dressings, it also involves optimism. Nurse Pilar believed in me, which gave me the hope I needed to heal. If anyone else wants to make the same argument over and over again about the glove issue please feel free to email me. Please stop criticizing this amazing woman because she does not deserve it.

  • @Arsenal21

    Healingnow dude wont matter if you get an infection that kills you later.

  • @Arsenal21 no one is saying she isn't a woman of great character, in fact many nurses are very sweet people. However, no matter how caring her intention if you were to have gotten another infection it could have been extremely dangerous. I am a nursing student and I have already seen patients die from infections because healthcare providers ignored sterile technique. Your skin is your main defense against disease, when its broken you are at a huge risk, so gloves are important for your sake.

  • @Arsenal21 no one is saying she isn't a woman of great character, in fact many nurses are very sweet people. However, no matter how caring her intention if you were to have gotten another infection it could have been extremely dangerous. I am a nursing student and I have already seen patients die from infections because healthcare providers ignored sterile technique. Your skin is your main defense against disease, when its broken you are at a huge risk, so gloves are important for your sake.

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  • great for you that your the ONE out of a MILLION who didn't get an infection. Consider yourself lucky. Question for you...did you ask your nurse before you put her out for the world to see & criticise? Seems like if she knew she was gonna be aired for the world to see, she would have made sure she did it correctly!!

  • no gloves, very unprofessional. I'm a nurse and this is nursing 101, if medicare saw this or her employer she might get fired.

  • @parrotheadnurse1 she did wear gloves at the beggining in the removal ?

  • @colwacka

    my question EXACTLY

    where are The GLOVES??!!!

  • dude i have mine on my other side of my calf its a pain with the hose hanging around all the time

  • I'm an R.N. & do vac changes all day long...I can't believe this "nurse" if she is a real nurse, is not wearing gloves. Its because of healthcare workers like her that people get infections. Imagine this, she goes to the next patient's home & doesn't wear gloves either...think about that. I wonder if her boss has ever seen this or perhaps JHACO?

  • It's JCAHO. No JHACO. Why do you do Vac changes all day long?

  • Because I am an R.N. and I was properly trained to perform wound vacs ALL DAY LONG...hey guess what... infections DO kill people. Your nurse was not protecting you (ethically and physically) by exposing you to all the germs she carries around with her all day(as most of us healthcare workers do).

  • FYI, I don't care that you are an RN and you were "properly trained" to perform wound vacs. I'm an RN as well and I've been trained to change woundvacs too. Doesn't mean that's all I do all day. And I'm well aware of the prognosis of infections and the spread of such. It's OBVIOUS that infections kill. Thank you for that insight.

  • how did you hurt your leg?

  • that is incorrect u should wear gloves when changing the bandage i had one for about two months when my c section had to be reopened. if u dont wear gloves the wound could get infected.

  • @kersti0408 I had the same problem. My c-section reopened on its own though.

  • Thank you for posting this.. I have to have surgery on my elbow tomorrow & they said I'll have the wound vac. I didn't know what it was or what to expect until now. Knowledge is Power.. thank you!! God Bless you & I hope you're totally well now! =)

  • what!? hey, careful, she doesn't wear the sterile gloves..

    may affect e healing and possiblity of other infection

  • I'm a nurse and I do wound vacs all the time. It's not a sterile procedure so sterile gloves are not necessary.

  • STERILE gloves may not be necessary, but CLEAN gloves are. Always. Without fail.

    A nurse that doesn't wear clean gloves when coming in contact with bodily fluids and open wounds is not only a danger to her patients, but to herself. Period.

  • Yes you are supposed to wear clean gloves when coming in contact with bodily fluids, i never said she shouldn't have been wearing gloves.

  • @Natjoy24 No one said sterile dont change the subject gloves. I can't believe any of you feel there is a defense line here. She made a bad judgement lets move on

  • @Natjoy24 You don't use gloves either? You defending the no gloves too scary. I am a nurse too. Don't ever work on me. It's like surgery without gloves.

  • @itscocoa I never said that I dont use gloves. I said "sterile" gloves weren't necessary for a wound vac change. Of course I wear gloves, I would be a fool not to.

  • This was very helpful...I had a c-section a little over 3 weeks ago and it wasnt healing right because of a skin infection and my incision opened up and they had me put on one of these. it has been great so far, except when my nurse first tried to change the sponge...it wouldnt come out, I had to go to the hospital and have my surgeon numb my stomach to get it out. But hopefully in another week or so mine will be off.

  • @PearOrchards Lucky you. I didn't even have the anesthesia or the wound vac either. OUCCCCCCCCCCH

  • neat to see this on the computer, but why isn't the nurse wearing gloves to protect herself from you and you from her? She is giving you germs from her lovely rings and nails. Hope you healed well. Signed RN

  • Wow this is amazing. I had to research a wound vac for my nursing class. Never thought I would find it on you tube! Congrat on the process. Keep healing

    Jessica

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  • Wound looks pretty good. I'm sure it's healed by now, no thanks to Typhoid Mary....Scratching her butt or God knows what before she walks into your house and places her hands all over the black foam before she covers it with the drape... Great video though... thanks.

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  • I used a KCI vac on a patient today, but he has the black foam, he may need the white because the black is adhering so much and the MD won't change the orders for me. Arsenal, how deep was your wound or was it mainly surface?

  • I had to be on the black foam once, told the doctor it was too painful having the black foam in, then got switched to the white foam.

  • OK I just watched this again and the lack of gloves is just plain skeevy.

  • omg wheres the gloves !!

  • i know she didn't don any gloves on the most crucial part of it too...that's not professional!...I'm a nurse myself and this is a bit disturbing....

  • Nice. Looks like yours just goes ontop.

    When I had mine they put the foam inside my arm. Up next to my bone. It hurt like he'll when they had to change it

  • I had the wound vac on for approximately 5 months. Eventually the doctors felt the wound was not making any progress so they decided I needed a skin graft. The skin graft took pretty well but a portion of my leg never healed. I then had to go and do hyperbarics and had to every day change the unhealed portion of my leg. After about a year and two months my leg was completely healed.

  • Hi, how long did it eventually take for your wound to totally close/heal?

  • OMG!!! Gloves?

  • THAT SHIT HURTS SOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!

  • The wound vac is a great tool. Pray you never have to deal with KCI staff or anything other than privarte insurance. Poor support, extra poor tech support, and NO care about the patient's actual healing, only the money. Make sure your home health is better than the KCI staff. KCI will pull the wound vac and leave the wound in detriment with no concern for the customer/patient. Kci is a HORRIBLE company, but the vac does work.

  • Thanks for sharing - my 10 year old nephew has one and now i know what it looks like even though he is far away!

  • Hope you kept your leg after your nurse contaminated that would about 500 times changing that dressing. Poor poor technique. Wouldn't even call it technique. She casts a poor light on nursing care.

  • Great video!

    The KCI VAC is the ONLY system that has a patent to use foam. That foam increases cell activity to get that wound to heal up fast with granular tissue.

    Great job.

  • @WOCN36 If this was nursing boards She would have failed in the beginning of the video because of the gloves. The fact that the technique was great wouldnt' have even mattered.

  • Agh... I have a V.A.C. for a surgical incision in my upper thigh, and it's not nearly as big as the one in this video.

    Although, I don't get lidocaine when they change it like this guy did, and it is definitely one of the more painful things I have ever felt in my life... and it gets changed 3 times a week... :(

  • I feel the same way. I am a nurse. I liked the video except for the fact that the nurse is not wearing gloves....so many infections get started this way....

  • Good example of wound vac BUT why no gloves. It's not always a wound nurse. In the hospital, the respiratory department handles wound vac changes.

  • Thank you for putting this video up. My mom has had to go on wound vac therapy and I am many states away so am not able to be there. So this helps me to understand how it works. I appreciate it very much.

  • I had my foot crushed and they had to do a filet the foot open to relieve pressure. Changing the vacuum was more painful then when I had my foot crushed!!!!!!!!!!!

  • damn, sterile technique is poorly addressed

  • @breaker1842 I think people are learning something here that they will never forget that's the gloves with bodily fluids. So this came out to be a more positive video because of the comments from others.

  • @itscocoa yes, this is a learning experience for all of those dealing with wounds and nursing care..

  • what the heck did u do?!!!!!!?

  • OMG! Why isn't the nurse wearing GLOVES! And that ring of hers has a gazillion places for bacteria to thrive!!! What poor technique that demonstrates.

  • i had one on my groin and one on my butt it was torture, i feel your pain!

  • my mom had one of those they realy suck! i hope your better! i subscribed!

  • Nice.

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  • i had a wound vac on my stomach for an infected csection. wound vac's unite!

  • I had the same problem.

  • Dude! You should have asked the Doc to order the Smith & Nephew product.

    Way less painful / fewer dressing changes and far more effective!

  • yo i know how much the wound vacs suck. i had one for my nf after the infection was gone. my wound was so deep you could see the bones in my ankle. pretty horrible. but within a few months it was healed enough for the doc to do a skin graph and that finished it up. how long did you have that on?

  • I work for KCI, the company that makes the Wound VAC you used. I work in an area where we never really get to see the effect we have on what we do. Thank you for your story, yours is truly an amazing and inspiring story. I am truly thankful we were here here to help in your recovery!

  • oops the last comment was sent to somoen spacificly.

  • i had mine on the back of my leg, i got it of on the 4th i think. so much easier with out it. my wound hasnt completely healed yet but its healing pretty fast without the vacc. did u get urs off?

  • She should be wearing gloves! Big no no! That should be a sterile procedure because she is putting the foam directly onto the wound.

  • Wound VAC application is not a sterile procedure in the home.

    But, she should absolutely be wearing gloves throughout the entire dressing change. ( homecare nurse )

  • My mom just received a wound vac today but was unable to really see what was going on because her wound is on the bottom of her foot. Now she can see how it works. Thanks for sharing!

  • Wow! I am having an aggressive form of Squamous Cell Carcinoma removed from both of my lower legs on 1/23/09 and my surgeon is using a wound VAC on me following my surgery due to the large area being removed from each of my legs. This was informative, but scary as H*LL at the same time. Whew. Thanks for sharing it with the world though.

  • Thanks so much for this demonstration. It was very helpful in making me understand exactly how this technology works for wound care. Many thanks to the patient too!

  • nurse should be fired! No gloves!

  • yeah hahahahaha shes not wearing clean gloves, very unsterile!

  • what was the name of the stuff that numbs ur leg? and did it numb ur nerves as well because i am useing this vac machine on my lower tailbone and the sponge sticks to my skin and when the nurse takes the sponge off the pain is honestly like torture

  • i have a wound vacc on right now. my wound is pretty deep. how long did u have the vac on befre this. how long did it take for it to heal?

  • i have one too, it just depends on how well you are healing.. where do you have your wound vac on?

    i should be getting mine off this week, it took about 5 weeks for me

  • thanks so much for making this video....i am a new graduate nurse and i will change a vac machine later this week,,,,after watching this video i have a better idea of what to do...thanks.

  • I'm glad you made this video of your wound vac change. I had a wound vac change on my severely dehicsed c-section for nearly 3 weeks. My wound went from my hair line up inside to my belly button. I had a wonderful experience with the wound vac (despite the tremendously painful dressing changes). I really was so happy to have it because I'm not sure how I would have healed without it. I'm linking to your video on a blog of mine because it really shows what you go through. Thanks - props!

  • omg, I am getting this? I can't believe this, does it hurt to change it?

  • how is this posible? my mom had a small one,but thats a huge wound!

  • thing I saw was NO GLOVES! Not good...

  • Simply escharming.

  • any nurse in their right minds should always wear gloves whether it's applying the vac or any other kind of dressing and whether the nurse was touching the wound or not, she still should have had enough sense to wear gloves, no if, and or but about it

  • my brother has been on the vac since February and had his wound since January and still it hasn't completely healed. At the moment, Dakins solution is being applied because we're having trouble with KCI(the maker) in getting supplies.

  • what was the song playing during this video?

  • its:when your older you'll understand.

  • who's the artist?

  • im havin the same thing done at the moment on my stomach but i can already see the difference in 1 week its amazing.

  • I hope state is not watching this video

  • Gross

  • I can't believeyour nurse allowed you to post this video.I am a certified wound nursethe mistakes she has made changing this vac makes me ill.she is not wearing gloves as she touches the sponge thenapplies that sponge to your open wound.The idea behind the vac is to pull the wound edgesin.Shedoesn't even apply enough sponge to cover the entire wound On theproximal end there must be 3cm uncovered.I suggest you get a new nurse. Wearing gloves is something you learn your first dayof nursing school

  • i had a wound vac because i had tumors that ruptured my intestines. Had it for a month. I went out in public where people would just stare..im all better now ..and i hope you are too:)

  • WOW! I can't believe you posted this! You are AWESOME! =)

    Aren't these Wound Vac's are amazing? They really help heal up wounds so much faster than traditional dressings.. less risk for infection too.

    Thanks for posting this video!

  • This is so awesome! As an employee of the company who makes this product, I am so proud that I could be a small part of helping you get better. I hope everything is well with you. Can you post an update for everyone?

  • Ummm????? Should this not be done with sterile technique?????? The NURSE used her bare hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who trains the people that use this???????? With a wound that size, infection can be a significant compilation!!!!!

  • This wound vac sucks...i had a cyst on my lower back...and im talking right on the crack of my ass it sucks sooo bad...I am in so much pain

  • I am now off of the wound VAC. This was no fun and lots of pain (I had a nerve exposed). If you have any pain even with pain meds... ladcaine is the answer.

    Thanks again for the video!

  • Thanks for the video. I get my wound vac tomorrow. I broke and dislocated my ankle. And now 3 weeks after surgery the incisions still have not closed completely. I turned a golf cart over on my leg Jan 14th. Thanks again from Birmingham AL!!!

  • I am impressed finding this video!

    ... I have one of this WoundVac (seems the same one) however my is so damn painful wond is muchdeeper too. Everywhere I read, it says slight discomfort, anyone else experiencing pain with this?

    Thanks for posting the video!

  • dude this is freakin hardcore

  • That is a great video..BUT IM SOOO DISTURBED AS A STUDENT NURSE...SHES NOT WEARING GLOVESSSS!!

  • She wasn't touching the wound which she had already cleaned. But it is almost impossible to apply the opsite with gloves on. You'll never get it on right and the suction will be ineffective. She did not contaminate herself or the wound. Watch it again and you'll see what I'm talking about

  • I agree with you lovingatrucker.

    Also, it's almost like artwork cutting and fitting to get the most effective and appropriate suction.

  • I had one of those in my stomach for Pancreatitis their hell to change

  • heh im amazed theres wound vac on youtube i got one too and it keeps me awake at night

  • Hey, thanks for posting this. I am a CWOCN nurse, so I do this all the time. This will be a great video to show to patients! Hope you are all patched up by now.

  • your lucky, my compartment syndrome left my arm parlized

  • Hey Nurse Pilar did a great job but she forgot one thing using gloves while putting the dressing back on your leg for the entire process, less risk for infection.Once the clear dressing has been placed then she can take off her gloves.

  • You must have never done this procedure. If you'll note she never touched the wound with her hand. She only touched the perimeter which was unaffected.

  • That kinda cool i guess lol but i would never want to watch someone doin that to me but i guess you get use to it lol and i will keep praying for you too

  • thanks it so cool but i would never want to watch someone do that to me but i guess you get use to it lol