Looks good, music was terrible. Clean up your moves a little, sometimes it seems sloppy. And get rid of the napkinthing. Its only working against you.
i have the original ( i think) tutorial, of this released by stars of magic and iv never seen it performed, hopefully watching this will help me understand the document better. this also contains patter suggestions if your interested
@triavatar This version(minus the Zarrow shuffle) is in Stars of Magic. The handling in "Stars" was not Vernon's preferred method. He didn't like the double undercuts.His original handling is in Lost Inner Secrets by Stephen Minch. It's a bit more difficult but worth the effort.
i like but this ist from dai vernon it comes from rene lavand from the trick historia de un jugador (history of a gambler).
the awsome of rene its that he only have one arm, and he make the trick with one hand.... check it out just tipe "historia de un jugador" the first one. thx
Thanks for shuffling the deck then slowly looking for the aces just to set up the trick... cause thats what a spectator wants to see.... :S (incase you didnt know, thats sarcasm)
I dont see how revealing information about a trick is supposed to make one look smarter...
Even if you didnt know this and you figured it out by my poor in your opinion performance,you could only have one reason to post it here...and that would be...to show off...(incase you didnt know!) ;)
To be fair, thats what your meant to do, thats how vernon did it. It might not make sense here, but with the patter/storyline it does. I think Vernon used to say he met a one armed gambler who cut the aces into the pack AFTER hed just revealed them...so yeah, with the patter it makes sense. But there is no patter on this video...so it doesnt.
Yeah, when you started going through the deck at 0:38, I thought you were just going to show us a few cards to prove that you'd not controlled all the aces to the bottom. By the time you'd gone through ten cards, I thought it was going to be the lamest trick ever, and you were going to cut the aces by trying every possible cut, in the manner of "Is your card the ace of spades? The two? The three? ..." :-)
first of all no such thing as a zarrow second of all this shows that with even a classic trick like this (taught in harry loraynes close up card magic) can be changed to simplify. good job
Nice job! Keeping working at it. You're talented. Don't be discouraged by Dai's version vs. your version. Some are purists. Everyone should be encouraged to be creative. After all, that's why we pay homage to Dai Vernon - his creativity. Performance-wise: This format (music video style) doesn't lend well to the trick. The main thing right now is that it looks like "work" instead of being effortless. It looks like "feats of skill" vs. magic. I'd bring in the "story" aspect (YOUR STORY).
I'm sorry, it's like you decided to do everything wrong.
Don't shuffle @ the start, a spectator is supposed to shuffle. Don't shuffle after putting the aces, you're supposed to have done that to separate them well. Don't put the deck on the table after every cut, otherwise you'd just cut it on the table. Don't do away with the patter, you kill the reason for the way you cut and for the twist ending (which you also shouldn't change).
But most of all, buy Revelations DVD 1 and listen to Vernon.
Ok,a couple of things i have to mention here.After listening to many opinions and discussing this variation with many people,i too have come to the conclusion that the shuffles must not be used.Also,its not that i dont use patter of course,i just chose to upload it this way..
Anyway to sum up,this was a variation i thought of when i first learned the trick,but now am convinced that i should just stick to the way that Vernon did this trick :D
Oh and one more thing..i do have the Revelations dvds and listening to what Vernon had to say about this trick really did play the most important part in me letting this variation go after all.The "unfortunate" thing was,that when i first found this trick it was from a manuscript,without any analysis...so i was a bit "blinded" by my thoughts and obviously missed many of the original Vernon ideas about its patter and performance in general...
Thank you!Thats how i read the revelation is done in an article by Dai Vernon...could you private message me and tell me what you mean by "the slip"?I d appreciate it :D
Thanks man!Its a very beautiful trick,and i usually use it as an opener,its a very good opener i think...or kinda like second trick in a row,after something simpler :P
I disagree. No motivation for taking the aces out and then cutting the aces in exists if you then riffle shuffle the deck. It isn't in the original routine and you can bet that's for a good reason : )
Hm...actually i think you might be right there...seems that by trying to make it more impossible i missed this vital point...thank you for sharing this man,i ll keep it in mind,for sure! :D :D
Looks good, music was terrible. Clean up your moves a little, sometimes it seems sloppy. And get rid of the napkinthing. Its only working against you.
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Daniel
langeveld8 7 months ago
I had to mute it but I really enjoyed watching it. Not sure why you got so many dislikes.
thedoobieman5 8 months ago
i have the original ( i think) tutorial, of this released by stars of magic and iv never seen it performed, hopefully watching this will help me understand the document better. this also contains patter suggestions if your interested
cheers
benashbmx 1 year ago
good job anyway
tdani87 1 year ago
work on your zarrows, looks like you're doing sg when your break the riffle, that's not clean
tdani87 1 year ago
can i learn this in inner secrets of crad magic?
triavatar 1 year ago
@triavatar This version(minus the Zarrow shuffle) is in Stars of Magic. The handling in "Stars" was not Vernon's preferred method. He didn't like the double undercuts.His original handling is in Lost Inner Secrets by Stephen Minch. It's a bit more difficult but worth the effort.
hvod 1 year ago
Really like the one-hand fan to set up the first insert. Nice technique.
kdonv 1 year ago
Beautiful
jdrichard01 1 year ago
Patter would make this effect a work of art, besides that wonderful job!
knight024 2 years ago
I know,its become pretty clear that the music was a lame idea :P :P thanks for commenting mate! :)
skapyro 2 years ago
Hey, good job on the trick man! Just clean up on the cuts and the basic sleights and you're good.
ppeerrssoonnnn 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing tour thoughts man!and glad you liked it :))
skapyro 2 years ago
i like but this ist from dai vernon it comes from rene lavand from the trick historia de un jugador (history of a gambler).
the awsome of rene its that he only have one arm, and he make the trick with one hand.... check it out just tipe "historia de un jugador" the first one. thx
amadomg87 2 years ago
Thanks a lot mate,i will! :)
skapyro 2 years ago
Well Lavand does perform this effect, and beautifully, as he does everything, the routine IS originally Vernon's.
MagicByWest 2 years ago
Thanks for shuffling the deck then slowly looking for the aces just to set up the trick... cause thats what a spectator wants to see.... :S (incase you didnt know, thats sarcasm)
THEnotsoREALDEAL 2 years ago
I dont see how revealing information about a trick is supposed to make one look smarter...
Even if you didnt know this and you figured it out by my poor in your opinion performance,you could only have one reason to post it here...and that would be...to show off...(incase you didnt know!) ;)
skapyro 2 years ago
To be fair, thats what your meant to do, thats how vernon did it. It might not make sense here, but with the patter/storyline it does. I think Vernon used to say he met a one armed gambler who cut the aces into the pack AFTER hed just revealed them...so yeah, with the patter it makes sense. But there is no patter on this video...so it doesnt.
Kalelcirca1987 2 years ago
totally agree! B-O-R-I-N-G and pointless
fingerjack 2 years ago
the get ready was too obvious man
mailc01 3 years ago
Some questions and points:
1- Why you shuffle the cards before taking out the aces? Just a waste of time in my opinion.
2- The get ready for the first break is too obvious.
3- Too many manipoulations: people loose interest in what they can't focus on (Vernon's biggest lesson)
4- The cuts are not clean
5- Please, use a stable mat... will ease your life!
berok74 3 years ago 2
completely agree - some illogical time wasting movements which starts to bore. otherwise it´s nice
Darebakk 3 years ago
Hmmm, yes, I agree.
And the music really doesn't fit the magic... =/
XAytherxRedictusX 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing mate and what can i say...i agree with your points as well!
I got carried away when i first learned this trick and thought that by adding these moves it would seem more..magical...
But i have understood through performance and feedback that i did more harm than good lol..so i must say that i ve let this "version" go after all!
Anyway,thanks for trying to help!
Cheers ;)
John
skapyro 3 years ago
Yeah, when you started going through the deck at 0:38, I thought you were just going to show us a few cards to prove that you'd not controlled all the aces to the bottom. By the time you'd gone through ten cards, I thought it was going to be the lamest trick ever, and you were going to cut the aces by trying every possible cut, in the manner of "Is your card the ace of spades? The two? The three? ..." :-)
beeble2003 2 years ago
I prefer scarne's aces. This just has to many sleights when it could be so much more simpler!
TheMagicPros 3 years ago 2
sorry about my zarrow comment, their is such a thing! at the time iwas a lame ass hobbyist noob, sorry.
shizleconjuror 3 years ago
I would second all the comments about the zarrow, you have that whole "stuffing of the turkey" thing going on.
kcg5000 3 years ago
hehehe...i ll keep that in mind,thanks!
skapyro 3 years ago
work on your zarrow shuffle pretty noticable but anyways good
Techdecknoob21 3 years ago
work on your zarrows
xMrSmarTx 3 years ago 3
very well done. i see we both like magic and the prodigdy, spelt it wrong but who cares
top marks pal
RAZZOMANO 3 years ago
Hehe thanks mate,glad you liked it!Prodigy rule :P :P
skapyro 3 years ago
get a matt... start by there =)
couldnt watch till the end since the song is a bit annoying and u dun have a match =X
cya
bardskiller2 3 years ago
first of all no such thing as a zarrow second of all this shows that with even a classic trick like this (taught in harry loraynes close up card magic) can be changed to simplify. good job
shizleconjuror 3 years ago
how is there no such thing as a zarrow?
kcg5000 3 years ago
What song is this? Very nice trick, and @ the person who said the Zarrow was wrong, you have no clue what you're talking about.
MercuryWand 3 years ago 3
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Zarrow shuffle done wrong.
yli18vuotta 3 years ago
Nice job! Keeping working at it. You're talented. Don't be discouraged by Dai's version vs. your version. Some are purists. Everyone should be encouraged to be creative. After all, that's why we pay homage to Dai Vernon - his creativity. Performance-wise: This format (music video style) doesn't lend well to the trick. The main thing right now is that it looks like "work" instead of being effortless. It looks like "feats of skill" vs. magic. I'd bring in the "story" aspect (YOUR STORY).
daytonville 3 years ago
I'm sorry, it's like you decided to do everything wrong.
Don't shuffle @ the start, a spectator is supposed to shuffle. Don't shuffle after putting the aces, you're supposed to have done that to separate them well. Don't put the deck on the table after every cut, otherwise you'd just cut it on the table. Don't do away with the patter, you kill the reason for the way you cut and for the twist ending (which you also shouldn't change).
But most of all, buy Revelations DVD 1 and listen to Vernon.
splice42 3 years ago
Hey there,long time no see!
Ok,a couple of things i have to mention here.After listening to many opinions and discussing this variation with many people,i too have come to the conclusion that the shuffles must not be used.Also,its not that i dont use patter of course,i just chose to upload it this way..
Anyway to sum up,this was a variation i thought of when i first learned the trick,but now am convinced that i should just stick to the way that Vernon did this trick :D
Thanks for commenting :)
skapyro 3 years ago
Oh and one more thing..i do have the Revelations dvds and listening to what Vernon had to say about this trick really did play the most important part in me letting this variation go after all.The "unfortunate" thing was,that when i first found this trick it was from a manuscript,without any analysis...so i was a bit "blinded" by my thoughts and obviously missed many of the original Vernon ideas about its patter and performance in general...
skapyro 3 years ago
Nice trick ! but the revelation of the 3 first aces are kinda strange to me... I still prefer the slip ;)
Kirj4va 3 years ago
Thank you!Thats how i read the revelation is done in an article by Dai Vernon...could you private message me and tell me what you mean by "the slip"?I d appreciate it :D
skapyro 3 years ago
well done, still checking out others
jimcatman 3 years ago
you`re preety good,keep up with the good work;)
mihartrobert 3 years ago 2
Thank you for your nice words!
skapyro 3 years ago
hehe, I just learned this trick yesterday... I like your variations... well done :)
xxGOBxxBLUTHxx 3 years ago
Thanks man!Its a very beautiful trick,and i usually use it as an opener,its a very good opener i think...or kinda like second trick in a row,after something simpler :P
skapyro 3 years ago
i dont know if I would use it as an opener, due to the fact that it requires no setup. But I agree, its a very powerful effect;. Keep it up!
xxGOBxxBLUTHxx 3 years ago
this is some sick shit m8 :|
Robbietione 3 years ago 3
:D :D :D
skapyro 3 years ago
lol pretty cool first when i saw the 7 i thought u fucked up:P
ghossler 3 years ago 3
hehehe thats the point mate :P imagine the reactions at a live performance :D priceless :P :P :P :P
skapyro 3 years ago
work on the zarrows
xxak1stn3rxx 3 years ago
Why the Zarrow's?
georgehmillward 4 years ago
Because they make the finish even more impossible to the layman,dont they??!
skapyro 4 years ago
I disagree. No motivation for taking the aces out and then cutting the aces in exists if you then riffle shuffle the deck. It isn't in the original routine and you can bet that's for a good reason : )
johnnygri 3 years ago
Hm...actually i think you might be right there...seems that by trying to make it more impossible i missed this vital point...thank you for sharing this man,i ll keep it in mind,for sure! :D :D
skapyro 3 years ago
wow even Vernons favorite song
StyleSessions 4 years ago 5
Hahahaha...you think? :P:P
skapyro 4 years ago
i love this trick,perfect performance, nice skills,smooth dude,keep going..
nkrith 4 years ago
actually not. can cleraly see the breake at 2:04
caccaretto 3 years ago