New Planetary Systems In The Orion Nebula

[1524633a]

@joshnc101 what about the people who encounter actual demonds or "ghosts". i know plenty of people who have had physical encounters . im not really religious but i find it really ignorant of you to say that a persons beliefe is ignorant. its no more rediculous than believing that the earth and the universe came from nowhere. if the member is preaching to you its because he truely believes in what he was told and experienced and cares about you. but to call it ignorance is disrespectful.

[ferrarimike23]

Yeah just because the universe is expanding slowly dosnt mean there was a big bang dumbass

That theory sounds rediculous

[strongnoob]

lol such a slow release of information about ETs and our galaxy.

[traog]

How is it possible that "the great Orion nebula has been known and revered since ancient times", you can't see the nebula without a telescope?

[WissenXXL]

@traog,

"... This (orion) nebula is ... visible to the unaided eye ..."

Source: Wikipedia

[traog]

Sure you can see that something is there but without a telescope you would be hard pressed to see that it is a nebula.

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"Galileo studied Orion and failed to notice the nebula."

Source Wikipedia

[doogtoog]

@traog

The nebula is able to be seen unaided. The mayans used it's position (as well as the position of other objects) to keep track of celestial cycles.

Even if Galileo didn't happen to notice the nebula, it has no bearing on whether others did. The wikipedia article in question specifically noted Galileo's lack of mention of the nebula as being very peculiar because others had noted the nebula before him.

If you're going to quote something, it's preferable to use the entire statement.

[commerceskate]

dont know if someone has answered your question yet already. but back in ancient times there were also no city lights and whatnot so the stars were much much more visible.

also the stars were closer to the earth, now i dont know what they mean by "ancient times" assuming they mean it was a couple thousand years i dont think there would be a significant difference in distance from now. but im going to guess it had to with the lighting.

[traog]

I live in quite a rural area so light pollution doesn't affect my viewing too much. I have often looked at Orion and while I was aware of the Orion nebula it certainly doesn't really stand out where you would say "hey look at the nebula"

Sure you can see the point of light that is the Orion nebula, but is that really seeing the nebula? Any description of the nebula as seen with the naked eye would be a poor description.

[BGSoccerMagic]

actually we can but in order to do so the person needs to be far away from the big city lights as Orion nebula is quite faint. that was not an issue back in those ancient times,

[traog]

As stated in a previous post I don't live near any city and I can see Orion quite well.

Tonight happens to be clear and it's a new moon so I took my spotting scope out to see what I could see.

Even at about 40X magnification all that can be seen is a somewhat hazy starry patch It is nothing like what is shown at the beginning of this video.

[XxUndeniedxX]

@traog Whether you live near a city, or in the middle of the sticks, I guarentee that there is some light source that is inhibiting your ability to see this clearly with the naked eye. Astronomers have been staring at the Orion Nebula for 5,000 years. Who do you think named it, and first saw it? Did they have the sophisticated telescopes that we have now? Of course not.

[traog]

@XxUndeniedxX It was discovered by Nicholas Peiresc in 1610, previous to that it had been classed as a star, Theta Orionis.

[ObakeOnna]

Just imagine, perhaps in the far future one of those gas discs will have formed a planet with complex life, even a sapient species that will have no idea that billions of years ago another species watched their solar system form. Who knows, maybe this already happened to our own system over 4.5 billion years ago. We'd have no idea who or where our watchers were.

[bangNL94]

that is really awesome. i can see the orion stars from here in holland when its dark. but i never knew it had a nebula :)

[TowelGod]

only 1,500 light years from earth.... lol

[FreeInquisition]

Yeah lol all this is happening during the collapse of the Roman empire...

[chestbuster1987]

damn nature .. you scary hehe

[truvelocity]

Yes, nature can be scary and humbling.

[jmthetank]

Just imagine if we could move as fast as 3:31 - 3:42? That would be amazing...

[btwbrand]

Does anyone else hear.. talking in the background? Sounds like they recorded some of the audio with people nearby having conversations.

I use a pair of high quality headphones and do hear something.

[wimscheers]

"Does anyone else hear.. talking in the background?" If they ever tell you to kill anyone, please see a docter first. Or maybe just start a religion, then you can hear voices and kill in their name all you want.

[btwbrand]

Haha. No thanks.. religion is for the weak minded and un-imaginative. An Excuse to explain things you cant explain. As for killing people, Who do you think I am? People do well enough killing them-selves without my help.

3:29-3:42 three voices. left, then center, followed by the right. are the most obvious ones. I also heard some around the 1:20 mark.

[joshnc101]

@btwbrand Have a family member who is EXTREMELY religious, she buys into that whole "Garden of Eden is where we came from, the earth was made in 6 days and is 6,000 years old" BS. It boggles my mind on how people can believe those stupid fairy tales when we are clearly seeing examples out their on how our sun and planets came be! I won't advocate getting rid of religion entirely even tho I'm an atheist, but I can't wait for the day when this level of ignorance totally goes away!

[btwbrand]

@joshnc101 I know what you are saying. The thing you need to consider is those people believe all the new things we are discovering and learning about were created in the transition cycles we observe them in. So for instance we know our moon was damaged in the past by many many many collisions with objects of all sizes, and is now pockmarked. It's their belief the moon was created with most if not all of the marks, not that they occurred over time. This thinking makes everything new acceptable

[Paxmax]

3:30 "what is it / this"?

yeah... but the voices sounded edited too, not like background talk.

[sfg911]

who is our friend then?

[IconOfSin88]

If he references some religion, proceed with caution.

[Theophage]

@michaelmage:

Let me guess, you have the right answers and there is a huge conspiracy stopping you from publishing these ideas in the proper scientific journals, right? I feel for you, brother, I do.

[TheMathKing]

Come back when you've read a few phd level books in math and physics, then you'll know what you're talking about.

[doogtoog]

After the universe entered the dark ages (about 379,000 years after the big bang) all the "plasma" would have dissipated as the mean kinetic energy of the universe would not be high enough to sustain ionisation. When the electromagnetic force overcame the kinetic energy there wasn't any plasma in the universe until the dark ages ended with the formation of the first stars ~100 million years later.

This isn't even college level cosmology. You need to understand things before speaking.

[BGSoccerMagic]

There was no Big bang. The Big Bang theory is just another hoax, this time scientific, about the existence of a Creator.

[MrAwesomesauce101]

@BGSoccerMagic fail then explian why the universe keeps exspanding slowly ahhhh a big bang dumb ass

[doogtoog]

If you're going to say "there is no evidence of this plasma to begin with" you are ignoring the direct effects of this in the cosmic microwave background radiation, which has been mapped twice now. If you understand rudimentary atomic physics then you should be aware that deionization generates photons, meaning that the CMBR can only point to universal deionization.

By the way, the unifying theory of cosmology has little to nothing to do with nebula star formation.

[alchemistra]

That was a truly fascinating video, so the proplyds are like baby planets in the making around a central star, like Vega or something? If the conditions are just right, gravitational fields conducive to their accretion of space dust, voila! a planet forms. Oh, thank you Hubble, we love you : )

[Amiduffer]

We need more type telescopes further out. Its silly to only have one.

[btwbrand]

There are many more telescopes than Hubble in space. Each has it's own function and looks at a different spectrum. Even some that look at our sun, are out there.

Plans have been in the making for over a decade to replace Hubble. and the direct replacement will be many times more powerful than Hubble, and spend most of it's time in the fare side of the Moons Shadow. The position of the new scope will not allow for servicing like Hubble has. Search these Hubblecast videos to learn more.

[Amiduffer]

I'm aware of Chandra and other space based observatories. However, the current level of spending on research is obscenely tiny. We should have been colonizing Mars decades ago. There should have been dozens of space observatories already out there.

[zgbrotherhood]

We have religion to thank for this bullshit.

[Amiduffer]

Monetary decisions have starved the space program, not the church.

[zgbrotherhood]

If that where the case. Mr christ bush would of payed more attention to science and less on his faith and oil.

[Amiduffer]

They've been successively cutting the budget on space science since Nixons time.

[Athaeus]

I love Hublecast/ESOcast!

[Saerain]

I'm convinced that Joe Liske is a character played by Monty Python's Michael Palin. He even sounds like him.

[NeedsEvidence]

Hey, Dr. J's facial expression improved - no electric shocks anymore? Nice series anyway....

[HiAdrian]

Ah i've seen this one a lot in our light polluted night sky and wondered what it is. Not anymore! :)

[Heroasango]

Awesome!

Thanks for sharing!