How can I get in touch with this young lady's parents. I'd like to invite her to speak at out church on children's day. My church is located in South Florida.
Sabbatarians simply cannot see that the Law and the Prophets AS A UNIT pointed to Christ (it did not cease until all was fulfilled by Him- Matt.5:17ff). Thereafter, all law is subsumed and transcended by Christ's higher 'law' (mediated by His Spirit). At best the Decalogue remains as a pedagogue only. The Sabbath (Rest) pointed back to deliverance from Egypt, rest in God (His Rest begun at Creation) and forward to deliverance in Christ, our Spiritual Rest (Matt.11:28)
thanks for the vid. well pleasing to see little sister being articulate and intelligent in what she does. i only fear that she is not being told that SDA is an unclean thing created by the slave master to deceive the Ysraelites like all other religions; and that the sealing being being spoken of is for 144000 men of The Twelve Tribes Of Children of Ysrael. tell her she must leave the SDA and be an Ysraelite Princess. peace out !!!!!!!!!
@HowlingBenjamin why should she leave SDA,this church is the the true church God wants . It has been described also in the Bible.. So Sis don't leave your faith..
@HowlingBenjamin why should she leave SDA,this church is the the true church God wants . It has been described also in the Bible.. So Sis don't leave your faith..
@HowlingBenjamin why should she leave SDA,this church is the the true church God wants . It has been described also in the Bible.. So Sis don't leave your faith
The Sabbath is more than a day! This little sister is way more advanced than others. There are blessings in the sacrifice of giving up self, blessings far greater than the most pleasurable sins, yet hidden to those who want to be yoked to the satanic trinity of self, idols, and Satan. It is not about faith vs. works, but faith that works. It is not about literal vs. spiritual truth, but spiritual truth that is literal. LEARN MORE: READ "CRY OF THE FOUNTAIN OF LIFE" via
Praise God! The Sabbath message is going out in its fullness, even by the children! It is all about Christ and His righteousness. We must cease our own ways and let God's ways be sealed in us--our thoughts, desires, words, looks, and actions. We cannot reproduce Jesus without knowing [resting in, communing with] Him nor are we safe without His righteousness in us. We must bear the cross [sacrifice]. Call it bondage if you want, but the only way to heaven is the yoke of Christ (Matt. 11:28-30).
How can you say it is a fairytale? Do you believe Alexander the great, Caesar, Napoleon existed? These men were in history and recorded which is why we believe so. So as the Bible records Jesus in History, how can that be a fairytale? That means you say that history is a fairytale.
@Jondadon2006 So your telling me, any RUBBISH that man writes down on a peice of paper, must be fact ? Tell me you think Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are real. Go ahead, say it.
What about all the other Gods ? How many fairy tale God stories are there ? Your saying your fairy tale god storie is real, but the others are not ? Its impossible to have that many different gods. Its nonsense and rediculous.
@Snitzky666, so I guess your comments must apply also to the theory of evolution also written on paper or the teachings of Mo, Confucious...or Satan (eg. Church of Satan).
@Snitzky666, how is it brainwashing when we teach them the truth about God? So what should we teach them? Left-wing lies about evolution and doing whatever is good for oneself?
Mat. 12:1-8 The pharisees were accusing Jesus of doing something unlawful on the Sabbath.Jesus reminded them of King David and what he did on the Sabbath which would have seemed unlawful " 7But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless" By condemning people for having church on Sun you're condemning the guiltless. Jesus desires mercy and not sacrifice SDA is a cult, and the traditions of man make no effect the word of God.
My friend no one is condemning people for going church on sunday. Those who have a knowledge are condemning themselves because the Bible does not teach that and even in Bible prophecy, we are foretold that the papal system will think to change times and laws and this has happened with changing the Sabbath to sunday and also idol worship. The message is to reform people back to a thus saith the Lord and not what man says.
Also Sabbath keeping goes WAY deeper than church attendance
Can we fly this little girl to VA? There are many sunday churches who could benefit from hearing God's truth and seeing how powerfully He uses even the babes, who are obedient to His Word! What a blessing!
Psalms 8:2: Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.
Matthew 21:16: And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?
Wow!!!Amen, We underestimate the Power of the Holy Spirit. Prime example of the Almighty taking the weak things to confound the strong. Since the parents will not hear the aged,God gave this message through the mouths of a babe. Praise him indeed!
no one is talking about this young girl speaking like a elder enlish proper professor.. what? i dont understand her ability to do this,.. who were her parents upbringing? its definitly spiritual, whether what side is to be seenbut why are all of you talking doctrine on youtube, its not a debate site if youd really like to win or lose, but only God can tell.. jairus
Pure, unadulterated child abuse. This kid is no more a Christian than she is a politian. She is TOO YOUNG to form such opinions & has no knowledge of the alternatives therefore this is nothing more than a shocking, painfully tragic display of indoctrination. The parents deserve to be strung up.
While evolutionism is definitely not your strong point you are definitely out of your league here. If you were open to truth you would quickly learn that this girl has insight into some very serious things that are happening and soon to happen in our world. Her words will ring true in your ears soon enough. I just hope you will be open then.
Evolution isn't my strong point? lol, coming from somebody who believes evolutionary theory states that dogs should give birth to cats, that's pretty rich.
Strange you say that when what i claim is backed by the entire scientific community & has over 235,000 peer-reviewed papers verifying it lol.
Oh i'm open to truth alright, it's just egotistical, subjective, superstitious bullshit i have a problem with.
You keep wishing for the world to end while science continues to further humanity.
According to evolutionary theory all that is needed is the magic wand of time for a dog to eventually produce a cat. I was being facetious by removing the magic wand in order to expose how ridiculous your religion is. I believe dogs came from dogs. You believe dogs came from soup. Start producing millions of gradations from every species on the planet and you will have your proof. Producing a few creatures with features in common with others is not proof of evolution.
Wow Thats great Have you noticed every one who trys to prove the SDA religion wrong cant explain why they worship on sunday when we can tell them why we worship on saturday
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I can explain sunday worship using the bible...Acts 20:7 And on the FIRST day of the week, when the deciples came together to break bread (not natural food). Paul PREACHED unto them..
This simply does not prove it was a day of worship. Someone can preach anyday of the week. the Bible clearly states what day is the day GOD chose to have man worship him. Genesis 2. I challenge you to find ONE verse in the Bible that proves the day was changed by the ONLY ONE who can change it... Thanks GOD bless you as you search for Truth.
"I challenge you to find ONE verse in the Bible that proves the day was changed...."
Hbr 4:7 Again, he limiteth a CERTAIN DAY, saying in David, TODAY, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Even those who celebrated the seventh day sabbath hadn't yet entered into the true rest that God wished to provide for his people.
It's upon belief we enter into his rest, and it's entered into upon the DAY you believe..so make that day Today!
The seventh day sabbath was given because the way had not yet been made for us to enter into the heavenly rest provided in Christ Jesus, so he gave us the seventh day sabbath as a sign, a promise of the rest that would come.
So that certain day is no longer the seventh day but today as Hebrew so states. When we believe in jesus he raises us up to sit in heavenly places with him, and we can rest in the same resting place as him.
This is why we now 'remember' his resurrection with the bread and wine as Jesus commanded us to, so we'd never forget so great a freedom and rest that has been provided by him.
We don't look at the sign anymore, a sign that only promised of a rest that would come, we rest in the reality, Jesus Christ...and the new remembrance he gave us in the new covenant.
Whether it be done on saturday or sunday makes no difference, what is important is to remember him and what he did for us.
That is like saying that it makes no difference which tree Adam and Eve ate their fruit from. We may consider it a minor thing to choose which fruit we eat or which day we honor as God's memorial of creation but that doesn't matter. What matters is what God thinks. God states that if we offend in one point then we are guilty of all. The fourth commandment certainly qualifies as "one point". God never changed the Sabbath. Beware of Satan's counterfeit sabbath. It's worse than you think!
My sister you are asking a deceiving question. Ofcourse man worships everyday but there is a day God set for a reason and there has always been a faithful remnant who obeyed all the words that come from the mouth of God. Do you celebrate your birthday everyday or is there a set day? logically on the set day.
But I tell you this, that you are trying to make of non effect the 10'C because you break one, you break them all. Be very careful what you are doing
QUOTE: that you are trying to make of non effect the 10'C because you break one, you break them all"
Attach that phrase to the whole law, Jondadon, not just the ten commandments. You break any of the commandments of God, and you are found guilty of the law.
Do you perform sacrifices? Do you still follow every single dietary law he provided? It wasn't just the breaking of the ten specific commandments that condemned men, it was any law they broke, found in the law of God.
If man can worship any day and any time, then man cannot condemn man for doing so.
You miss the entire purpose of the reason God gave man various rests throughout the year, including the seventh day.
These reminded the people of him, the one who set them free, it wasn't a time to remember the earth, it was a time to remember 'the creator' who made the earth. The same creator who sanctifies them.
The earth doesn't sanctify the people, does it? The rest pointed ahead to Christ who sanctified.
Exd 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it [is] a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that [ye] may know that I [am] the LORD that doth sanctify you
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and [that] the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
The sabbath was designed for people to remember the Lord and the rest he would provide for them through Christ.
The bible says:
Hbr 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
The law spoke of a promise, that promise was Christ. The law was a shadow, the reality is Christ.
The time was coming when man could enter into rest. This rest could only be entered into once Christ came.
Because of Christ, not because of ourselves, we are now seated in the heavenlies with Christ. We're santified, justified, and are in the Holiest of Holies with God. The veil was rent because Christ prepared the way in.
We're not searching for righteousness anymore, we've found it in Christ.
It's only when Christ makes us whole have we truly entered into rest from our works.
God says now you can rest from your works as I have from mine. God only rested when the earth was made whole, and you can only rest once you have been made whole.
And you have been made whole through Christ. This wholeness doesn't end on Sunday, or monday, or tuesday. You are made whole now and forever.
You can stop from your works of trying to make yourself whole, and rest in Christ everyday because he makes
Don't you see? The sabbath can't give you the true rest, anymore than sacrificing animals can cleanse you of your sin.
It was just a shadow of what was to come. You may not accept this, but it is not a deception. They didn't find rest back then in those things either, it was only when they put their faith in the promises that were to come that saved their souls and made them righteous.
My rest comes not from resting on any particular day, it comes because Christ has justified, sanctified, and made me whole.
Think about this. The earth took seven days to be made whole, right? What happened on the eighth day?
Did it somehow become un-whole causing him to have to start that work of creation again? Or do you agree that the work he is doing now is different and he never started that same work back up again?
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God never truly stops working, even on the seventh day. The work he did stop, however, was his creative work. Not because it was the seventh day, but because his work of creating the earth and the heavens was complete.
When Jesus ascended back to heaven he ceased from his work of preparing the way for salvation because it was finished, but he is continually working.
We never truly stop working, BUT our search for being made right in God's eyes is over, we're a sanctified people.
After all that is said, you are still breaking a commandment of God willfully no matter how much you try to justify it as your only looking at it from one aspect. You still forget about the memorial of creation
Think about it. The distinction is based on what laws you wanna keep and what ones you don't, not whether or not God wrote it with his finger, which is the explanation that some love to give.
Do you keep all the dietary and health laws? No, mostly just the pork law, right?
Do you keep all the sacred assembly days? No, mostly just the sabbath, right?
It's inconsistent, which shows this thinking came from man, not God.
You aren't anymore breaking the command to perform physical sacrifices than I am breaking the sabbath.
Because these laws are fulfilled in a person only when they accept Jesus, and he imputes his righteousness to them. Showing them as sanctified, justified in the eyes of God, as a person in whom the law has been fulfilled, not through our works, but through his.
See I told you, you focus on the works so much. You don't focus on Christ in you to preform the works of righteousness.
In other words your saying you can sin sin sin and Christ will accept you. All you need to do is just say the words I believe but you can contniue in sin. Just as the serpent said to eve. Ye shall not surely die.
Do you not know that if you are wearing the righteousness of Christ that you must take of your own righteousness? I clear something up for you showing distinction...
So you need to ask. Do you love God, keep His commands as this is the love of God that we keep them
Do you accept the cross? If so stop teaching against the 10'C and allow God to write them in your Hearts simply as Christ blood confirmed the convenant so don't teach against the cross.
Do you believe His word? He said if you want to enter into live keep the commandments. Without faith, your not saved. Do you believe His word by faith?
Do you believe Hes Creator? Remember the Sabbath Day (7th)
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The point is God accepts us even though we are sinners, Jondadon, otherwise we'd stand no hope.
He doesn't accept you after you do a certain amount of good works for him. He doesn't wait to see how perfect you'll be in your walk. He accepts YOU because of Jesus.
He accepted Abraham and made him righteous before he circumcised his flesh.
After we come to Christ and are sealed, we receive the Holy Spirit, who leads us into the truth...
After we have already been sealed and bought by God, the Holy Spirit reveals to us the love of Christ. We're encouraged to put on the yoke of Christ.
We see how Christ loved us, and through that, we learn how to love others. Christ loved us much more than anything the ten commandments could have ever portrayed.
He teaches us mercy, kindness, forgiveness, how to be humble..how to lay down our lives for those around us...It's these fruits that come to pass in the life of a believer.
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We're not by any means perfect, and you know that as well as I do, but we're not accepted because we're perfect..We're accepted because he was perfect...and as we walk in him, he transforms us, helps us become more like him.
But that transforming isn't keeping us saved, or making us saved..its because we have his spirit inside us.
So my thinking isn't that different from yours, except for the fact that I view the law, and the sabbath different than you do.
Sad fact is though, we are at constant war with the flesh, and while we can overcome in the name of Jesus, we 'do' fall. And if we fall the bible says we have an advocate with the father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
if we say we have no sin we call God a liar and the truth isn't in us. Our only plea, our only hope is Jesus. While our lives are being transformed, our only hope still can ever be Jesus.
When someone hurts us, who do we turn to to learn how to forgive, Jondadon? Is it the ten commandments, or do we turn to Christ, who taught us how to forgive by how he forgave us?
Being transformed into the likeness of christ isn't about being transformed into the likeness of the ten commandments, but rather having our character become more like his through his Spirit which lives in us.
Our only difference jondadon is our stance on the sabbath, nothing to do with sin.
Well actually..The difference is, you look to the ten commandments when determining how to be like Christ, but I prefer to look to Christ alone when learning how to become more like him.
Theres no better place to look then to the life of Christ, and how he treated the people around him, and what he did for you..Not what the law can do for you, but what Christ has done for you.
There is no playing around with the Sabbath. We can't just choose to keep one part of the sabbath and reject the other. Either you keep it all, or you are a breaker of it.
So you can't really determine whether or not someone does or does not love God because they don't keep the sabbath as you do, or claim that they love to sin because they don't keep it as you do....since not even you keep the sabbath as the bible commanded.
I'll keep believing its a shadow of Christ because the bible says it
Do you light a fire in your fireplace if you have one, or know others in your church that do?
Do you boil water?
Do you make others work, such as gas attendants?
Do you make your mother clean up after you on the sabbath?
If something bad happened on the sabbath would you not phone the cops? making them work.
I mean come on, do you really keep the sabbath as the bible commanded? The consequence for breaking the sabbath was death, how many deaths would you have faced if you...
add up all the times you've broken the seventh day sabbath....
You keep the sabbath according to yourself, but not according to the bible..so when you condemn others of breaking it because they don't keep it like you do, you are found guilty of doing the same....
You can fight against this if you want, but its the truth.
And to add also, it is quite clear that you don't understand the context. Why do you read one verse and base a conclusion? Read the context. Firstly would they say not to kindle a fire on the Sabbath? Why is that? Then you read the rest of the CONTEXT in Chapter 35. It was based on building the Tabernacle. This was the industrial fire that was been talked of. Not a fire of cook or sacrificing because even Lev 6:13 shows that the fire never went out even through the Sabbath.
The Jews were so Zealous in building the tabernacle that they would have worked right through the Sabbath in heating the metals with *fire* in order to complete the sanctuary. It is quite sad to critic something outside of context.
Until you understand the depth of the Sabbath, it makes no sense to try and deceive many.
You don't believe the Sabbath of the 10'C distinctly showing us that God is the creator and using it as a mere day for sacrifice a shadow is up to you but your still sinning
You think it is just a mere keeping the Sabbath, going to church listening to a sermon, and going home that is the seal? Thats why you have come to your conclusion because you don't know the depth.
Isa 42:21 "The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable."
The Sabbath teaches what we are to be, Holy. For you to keep the Sabbath Holy, you yourself must ne Holy. The Sabbath is to remind us of what we are to be: Holy, Peculiar
What you feed your mind in the week will determine how you will keep the Sabbath.
If you feed your mind foolishness of the world, on the Sabbath, thats what you will be thinking of and thus you can't keep the Sabbath according to Isa 58:13,14
The manner did not fall on the Sabbath because you were to receive the blessing as the bread throughout the week that on the Sabbath your so full of the blessing, you can't hold it in because you were expected to be blessed already to share it out
The Sabbath is the sign of the special work sealing Gods people. The Sabbath was the sign that God sanctifies us and that what the Holy Spirit does, sealing us into the truth.
The Sabbath is the sign of Gods creative power that because we BELIEVE that He created the world in 6 days, we can also believe that He can 'CREATE' in us a clean Heart Ps 51 - Righteousness by faith.
The Sabbath is the sign that we rest in Christ that even when the time of trouble comes, we are saved by Him and rest in that faith not wavering.
This is just a sample of the magnification of the Sabbath but because you have already closed your mind to it, you won't see it.
You think the Sabbath command is a shadow, you may aswell think it for the rest of the 9 and thus there is no law making everyone sinless because your not judged without a law. Think of the consequence on what your saying
EGW through inspiration of the Holy Spirit says it so clear regarding the law which is basically what your attacking
"There are those who profess to serve God, while they rely upon their own efforts to obey His law, to form a right character, and secure salvation. Their hearts are not moved by any deep sense of the love of Christ, but they seek to perform the duties of the Christian life as that which God requires of them in order to gain heaven. Such religion is worth nothing....
When Christ dwells in the heart, the soul will be so filled with His love, with the joy of communion with Him, that it will cleave to Him; and in the contemplation of Him, self will be forgotten." Stept to Christ pg 44,45
Its not about works but if you have a deep sense of the law of God, you will obey every word that He commands you but sadly I have to be specific because you will say 'why don't you keep the sacifical laws' so i'll be frank. The 10'C.
...Both in letter and Spirit because the spirit covers the letter. e.g. If I love you (spirit) i won't commit murder (letter)
You need to ask yourself, if there is 10'C even in the Heavenly sanctuary right now by which we are judged, why am I breaking one of them that says Remember? Does God waste words? Why am I denying the cross of Christ even though His blood confirmed the covenant writing the law on our Hearts? Your sincere what you believe but so was Saul persecuting Christians. Be aware!
QUOTE: but they seek to perform the duties of the Christian life as that which God requires of them in order to gain heaven. Such religion is worth nothing....
She says this, and yet at the same time teaches that unless man keeps the sabbath he won't receive the seal of God. And if he isn't sealed by God, he's lost.
I'm afraid you can't keep denying this Jondadon, you have a work based salvation and not because your doing works simply out of love.
"I DELIGHT to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is WITHIN MY HEART" Ps 40:8
You see I just explained how the Sabbath is the sign and you have not understood showing you closed your mind and it is sad how you even took a sentence of EGW and made a conclusion which proves my point further.
In result, your not here to get an understanding, your here to bash, to critic, to mock and thats not the Spirit of Christ. Christ says come let us reason
I have already answered. You can't ask a question based on your wisdom and expect it to be answered in the way you want it. I can ask does the Bible say don't smoke weed yes or no. I would say no but will have to explain the principle but the fact i say no, means they can say i am not in trouble then. I gave you an explination which you should get the answer from. But I will say this. The 3 Angels message will bring conviction to the truth as many now don't know the truth
I am not here saying if you don't keep the Sabbath day your lost, I am saying if you willfully disobey, your lost. The Sabbath calls us to keep the commandments of God, teaching us to cease from sin
"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath *CEASED* from sin;" 1 Pe 4:1
"For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath CEASED from his own works, as God did from his." Heb 4:10
The Sabbath is the sign of the special work of the Holy Spirit sealing Gods people. The inward is always shown by the outward.
I can't just say yes or no because you would gather your conclusion from that yes or no. You wouldn't ask why yes or why no because you already have judged that we are a works for salvation people rather a cease from sin people who loves Christ and keeps His commandments.
There is more to it than just salvation by works. There is more to learn than that
@Jondadon2006It's by grace that we are saved, not that anyone should boast. Paul said that when he wanted to do right, sin was ever before him. we should abstain from sin , But A tree is known by its fruits, and going to church on Sunday or Sat. or Wed. does not dictate our salvation, Our salvation is determined by the fruits that we exhibit Love, Joy ,Peace, Patience, longsuferring,Gentleness,kindness,meekness, not by our outward manifestation of "being good". there is none good no not 1
No one is saved by keeping the law of God, we are all saved by the blood of Christ but do we sin because Christ has died for us? No! You choosing to reject sin is a direct that your placing yourself in God's grace.
My friend I appreciate your comment as I do all but I really need to correct you that we should not take a single one of the 10'C lightly because cain put his fruit on the alter but it was not accepted because he did not obey. Sabbath is deeper than church attendance
How can a SDA be a cult when we are sticking with what the Bible says? It really does not make any sense. A cult is a group which goes away from the clear pure truths in the word of God. Do you not believe that God wants us to keep His 10'C which are a transcript of His character? You cannot separate the fruit of the spirit with the law of God. The first part of the fruit is LOVE: Jesus says if you love me keep my commandments John 14:15. My friend don't stop at one point, keep going forward
@Jondadon2006, well written my brother in Yeshua! Ecclesiastes 12:13, Matthew 19:17, John 14:15 (as you stated), 1 John 5:3 and Revelation 14:12 clearly stipulate to keep the commandments! Amen!
Yes and he should worship God every day. BUT there is a special day that God Himself set aside as a time to come together and spend time only with Him. The Sabbath is not like any other day just like the sanctuary was not like any other tent. God placed His blessing on the 7th day and hallowed it. We don't have permission to choose our own day just as we don't have permission to kill or steal. The Sabbath was instituted in Eden and will be kept in heaven. Why would God skip our generation?
So why don't you kill those who work on the Sabbath? Do you pick & choose what you want from scripture? You're either a literalist or you're not. You can't say in one breath that every word of the bible is true & to be taken literally & in the next, discard anything you don't feel is now acceptable. Stand by your extremist convictions or quit whining about things you don't understand.
"And they, continuing daily, and breaking bread from house to house..." Breaking bread was a daily occurrence. Breaking bread does not change any of the commandments. If God wanted to change His unchanging law He would say so plainly.
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make sure that you also teach her how useless a role god played while her ancesters were getting hung by the K.K.K. which by the way is a christion organization.
By Gods grace they will see Him at the resurrection along with everyone persecuted in the past. KKK was just a degree on how sinful this world is and how God will destroy sin. Even Christ went through horror even worst as this, but when we see things through Christs eyes, we can see how Just His word is.
Acts 20:7 is not a good arguement to base sunday worship as they met on different days but you don't call it Sabbath. Also if Acts 20:7 was clear, it would says and they gathered on the first day of the week giving reason that Christ rose on that day. But nothing was said.
If you study line upon line, you will see this is one of the many characters of Christ. Christ is not an angel at all no but if you compare scripture, it is obvious.
I am a SDA because it is the closes to Bible truth
And to mention also that if you look at the original word for michael archangel, you will get 'the chief messenger who is as God'
Christ has the voice of the archangel, Michael intercedes in Dan 12:1 and only Christ does this but what we are saying is that Jesus is not an angelic being because He is the creator but the Bible even calls people angels which means messenger. Paul was known in Galatians as an angel of the lord but we know hes not a angelic being but a messenger. Hope this helps :0)
Still Michael is an Angel. And God said no Angel is His son. And God's son is Jesus who the Bible says is God in John 1:1. So hope that helped you find Jesus. 0 :-)
Jesus Abolished Israel's law with ten commandments and regulations.
Eph 2:15 (NIV) 15by abolishing in his flesh the law
with its commandments and regulations.
Notice, "the law" is singular that was abolished, not laws. There was just "one law" the Mosaic law with many commands and regulations, and it was abolished by Jesus.
God canceled the written code and regulations nailing it to the cross. SDAs claim that the "written code" was not the Ten, but the law that Moses wrote.
Both God and Moses wrote the Ten Commandments.The Ten Commandments written on stone tablets by the finger of God were placed inside the Ark of the Covenant,and they were also written by Moses on parchment and placed outside the Ark in the Book of the Covenant. Other wise you would not be reading it in your Bible.Col 2 and Ex 24 explains this.
Col 2:13 - 14 (NIV) 13When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
Ex 24:3 - 4 (NIV) 3When Moses went and told the people all the LORDS words and laws, they responded with one voice, Everything the LORD has said we will do. 4Moses then wrote down everything the LORD had said. He got up early the next morning and built an altar at the foot of the mountain and set up twelve stone pillars representing the twelve tribes of Israel. vs. 7, Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people.
Jesus was taken down from the cross, but the law with the sabbath remains nailed to the cross for eternity. SDAs try their best to pry the nails from the cross to make the sabbath binding on Christians.
SDA's assume that Adam and Eve observed the Sabbath during the first 7th day in the Garden of Eden and so, to SDA's, the first Sabbath began in Eden. But today, the Sabbath begins west of the International Date Line (IDL) in the Pacific Ocean & so SDA's are unknowingly breaking the Sabbath every week unless they can move the IDL from its current location to a new north-south location somewhere along the eastern border of the Garden of Eden. (smile)
Physical Works means nothing to Yahweh and you are teaching this to children that if they keep the Sabbath that this will merit some reward. Water Baptism, Communion, Sacraments, Sabbath Worship, Feet Washing, Etc. ALL ENDED WITH THE DEATH OF YAHSHUA AND THE IMMERSION(BAPTISM) OF THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVEN ON PENTECOST(50)! End Carnality and focus on spirit while living in this AGE OF GRACE. Why live a life in bondage to rules and regulations? Why not let Yahshua in YOU work out your problems? SPIRIT
You are looking from the outside in. we are not teaching physical works which is how you are looking at it in. The spirit of the law is love. if we love God, keep His Commandments jn 14:15. We dont teach rules and regs. the Bible doesn't support Water Baptism, Communion, Sacraments, Sabbath Worship, Feet Washing, all ended at the cross.
The Sabbath is the trademark of God stating i am creator of Heaven and Earth. When that day is kept, it is through acknowledgement He is our God we serve
Let NO MAN therefore JUDGE YOU in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH DAYS: Which are a SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME; but the body is of Christ.
Sabbath day worship is abolished through the Spirit of the Messiah. No one can really KEEP the Sabbath. Yahshua is Yahweh even on the Sabbath. If work required U to work on Sunday or Saturday you WILL DO IT! IT is the Spirit of the Law! Once again, keeping Sabbath doesn't mean anything!
The Sabbath of the 4th commandment is not abolished otherwise you will be abolishing the other 9. It is not the9 commandment.
There are 2 different Sabbath held. The Sabbath of creation and the sabbaths of ordinances. Now Paul is talking about the Sabbath of ordinance not the Ten Commandment Sabbath. e.g. Look at the difference ....
"In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have A SABBATH, a memorial of BLOWING OF TRUMPETS, an holy convocation."
"And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the SABBATH, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave OFFERING; seven sabbaths shall be complete:" Lev 23:15,24
Now the 10'C Sabbath
"Remember the Sabbath day...For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is...Ex 20:8,11
"Blotting out the HANDWRITING of ORDINANCES that was AGAINST US, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; Col 2:14
The Ten Commandments were not ordinances nor handwritten. What was AGAINST US?
"Take this BOOK OF THE LAW, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness AGAINST THEE" Deut 31:26
What was written in the book of the law was nailed to the cross. NOT the Ten Commandments.
Also the Lambs blood cleans and forgives iniquity,the Conscience(lintel) and cleans hands which are our works(two side posts:two hands) and make our paths straight(pool of blood,blood on feet). Yahshua also is our "Sabbath" which means "Rest." When U inherit the Kingdom you inherit the Sabbath. The Sabbath is also the Age after this one. 1000 years of Rest(Sabbath). The Age when those who have the Holy Spirit will rule and reign. SDA and other protestant stop thinking with a CARNAL MIND! ---->
so if your saying we keep the Sabbath in Heaven (1000 years), why is it any different now? the sabbaths that were done away was the sabbaths in Lev 23 where they had ordinance practices. The Ten Commandment Sabbath was established from creation BEFORE there was any sin so it couldn't have been a shadow. The sabbaths added were done on the cross
Also we have always lived in grace. It is not a new age of grace. the OT is full of grace from Gen 3:15 onwards.
Lets see what the Bible says about the carnal mind
"Because the CARNAL MIND is enmity against God: for it is NOT SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF GOD, neither indeed can be." Romans 8:7
"For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am CARNAL, sold UNDER SIN." Romans 7:14
So if we are keeping the commandments of God which He told us to keep and as even the Remnant keep (rev 12:17, 14:12) and if SIN is transgression of the law, how is it that we have a carnal when we love God and obey Him keeping His Law?
Because in reality there was nothing good enough that we could do to obtain salvation. This is why Yahshua performed all the work that was neccessary for us to inherit salvation. When we inherited his spirit(pentecost) we also inherited ALL THE WORKS HE DID THAT WAS NECCESSARY TO RECIEVE YAHWEH. Blotting out the handwritting of ordinances that was against us. All we need now is the love Yahweh with all our might,etc, and love our neighbor as ourselves. This is the New Covenant/Testament.
You see the Bible talks of two types of works. There is works for salvation and their is the works that is the fruit of love e.g. if you love me you won't kill me. On the other hand someone might say i wish i could kill you but the Law says not to. When you have the love in your Heart, the commandments no longer need to be applied because by nature your keeping it. This is why is says in Romans 13:9 if you keep the last 6 of the 10'C, you are showing love to man. So the first 4, love to God
The Physical things are a spiritual representation of Yahshua and what is to come. Rom 1:19-20. THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS 'THE AGE OF THE LAW OF WORKS'! That's why it is called "THE OLD COVENANT/ TESTAMENT! The NEW TESTAMENT brought all things into conformity according to GRACE! The NEW TESTAMENT/COVENANT is now written in the HEARTS AND MINDS of HIS PEOPLE!Jer 31:31-33 and this style of worship can only be expressed in Spirit and not Carnality or physical WORKS.
Oh yes I agree that the physical points to the spiritual but does that mean that I can say I love you but I am going to steal from you or I will take your life etc? The letter is covered through the spiritual aspect. If we neglect the letter, we can harm physically which is not Biblical. Is there a physical Earth? Yes so that means we still celebrate the Sabbath as we are worshipping the creator.
EXACTLY. The Law is written on the Heart and mind. Nothing about NEW laws but the Laws
Celebrating the Sabbath or observing is the same as ordinance because people believe by NOT observing this they will be penalized by Yahweh. So do you believe you can obtain salvation by not observing 7th day rituals? If U believe this then it is work and not spirit. And that by performing this work you are doing God's will. He is a Spirit, so no matter what we do in the flesh it counts for nothing because the body will put on incorruption(spirit).
This is the mistake that people make about the Sabbath. It is not a RITUAL service, it is there to show the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. I'll tell you how it works
On the Sabbath day, our attention is totally fixed on God. What you think of, talk about, your converse is centered on God. Now people are not able to do this at times because of what they feed their minds throughout the week. So for you to keep the Sabbath, you yourself must have a Holy mindset.
Now if you take away the Sabbath as the 10'C states otherwise, people don't want to change their lifestyle. They say they are under grace and take the grace of God cheaply. The grace of God is nothing to do with free access of breaking the 10'C. I spoke to one person who kept saying they are under grace and I asked If He prayed. He said He is under grace. This is obviously wrong. And it is because of this wrong doctrin on grace, people break the Sabbath and call it a ritual
So if someone willfully breaks one of the 10'C, I am not saying this but you are lost because that is not showing love to God and in Hebrew it says if we willfully sin, there remains no more sacrifice for sins because you are not using the grace of God to transform your character.
An ordinance is something that you feel you must observe as a tradition or a standard. People who bind themselves up will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. If you feel that you must keep the Sabbath then you are still under the law. I can center my thoughts on Yahweh everyday of the week and NOT JUST ON SUNDAY OF SPECIAL OCCASSIONS! This is the fufillment: That by loving Yahweh we keep Yahshua in us establishing a law of FAITH and NOT OF WORKS, INCLUDING DOING SPECIFIC THINGS ON SUNDAY!
The Ten Commandments were also nailed to the cross because it was FULFILLED. So was all 613 laws given by YAHSHUA to Moses. You just can't keep one law and discard the others. This is the whole point of the law! You can't keep all the law. U just can't say Sabbath only. ALL must be kept!
You see you need to understand the Laws carefully. There were not 613 seperate laws. The laws were laws in itself
10'C - that standard of righteousness
Judgments - to help understand the 10'C
Ceremonial laws - what you need to do if you break the 10'C
etc etc
If the Ten Commandments were nailed to the cross, we have access to sin, satan is no longer a sinner and we are going to keep sinning wilfully without any condemnation. Please understand the difference in the Laws. They are different
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
This is the point I have been trying to get you to understand that all these things go by faith and not works. I don't have to reverence the spirit of Yahweh on the Sabbath only but everyday because his spirit is with us constantly. I will not reserve a special occassion for Him to meditate about Him. I might as well pray on Saturday instead of other days too while I am at it.
I understand what your saying but we must remember the tSabbath is the memorial of creation too. Thats the distinctive mark between us and those who believe in other Gods. The fact that our God is creator of Heaven and Earth and is not a creation like idols, should cause us to reverence that day. Ask the Bible questions. e.g.
"Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy"
Why??
"For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea,..." Ex 20:8,11
Remember "Sabbath" is another term for "Rest." Each day of Creation represent a Dispensation according to the days of Creation. Adam, Enoch, Noah, Melchizedek, Moses, Yahshua (6th day, second Adam - was also created on the sixth day), SABBATH DAY(7th) REST: Ressurrection of the Spiritual Adam(Son's of Yahweh)! It doesn't make a differnce if you observe it or not; doesn't make a difference to Yahweh if you don't know how to love your brother.
Well thats what you believe but Christ said the 7th day and man says it doesn't matter, I am going to obey God rather than man, especially when it is in company with the other 9 that display sin. I believe it is as important as the rest of the 9
So when Yahshua said "IT IS DONE!" What did he mean by this? You keep those 10 Commandments w/ the Law and the rest of those Carnal Ordinances and Traditions. As for me and my house we will serve YAHWEH by loving him with all our heart, might, mind, and strength; and love our neighbor as ourselves! I know Yahshua finished the written code and I accept his work for me through his SPIRIT. Keep your Law of Works. "Yahshua have we not kept thy Sabbath days?" DEPART FROM ME YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY!
I agree with what you are saying but thats justification for breaking the ten commandments, I keep the 10C not the ordinances as they nailed. I assume you dont kill steal worship others gods, call the lords name in vain.
You asked why Christ said it is done, this is the answer
and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, Dan 9:27 (prophecy based on Christ)
it is finished because we no longer need the sacrifices on earth as Christ FINISHED it through His death. The sacrifice of Christ is the start which is why He is now in the Heavenly Temple
She's on her way but she can only teach what you SDA falsly taught her. She'll know when she grow up. The 4 points of blood the lintel, two side posts, and basin at the bottom was a foreshadow of Yahshua on the cross: thorn on head(lintel), nail on each hand(2 side posts), and nail in feet(pool of basin blood). The blood was also posted on the inside. The Blood of Yahshua cleans you inside spiritually and your blood is also on the inside. Yahshua also said "I am the door."
from the mouth of babes.. god shows me this too..this is why my kids are different, too..they are piculiar..cause of god wisdom.. homeschool..or private school- ohh! she speaks my heart. God made us homeschool, too! now homebiz! he keeps blessing! i cant believe it.. but, obeying GOD DOES BLESS us, but u must walk NARROW route, many will disagree, but look at their outcome..not as this child. she is used greatly of God! thank u 4 posting. anna-DIED,met JESUS.
How can I get in touch with this young lady's parents. I'd like to invite her to speak at out church on children's day. My church is located in South Florida.
Thank you for your reply.
shedwards7 3 months ago
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ill inbox her username
Jondadon2006 3 months ago
How can I get in touch with this young lady's parents. I'd like to invite her to speak at my church on children's day. I live in South Florida.
shedwards7 3 months ago
I would say that at least 5000 ppl that do not have the mark of God have been warned through this little girl. I am one of them.
TheReubenDean 5 months ago
mocking the preaching of christian gospel...
all the "child preachers' are only puppetiers teached by someone..
that is not strange in adventist cult, as all the doctrines are intents to mocking the true of the REAL GOSPEL.
Time is coming to its end,friends.
Come out from babylon now, in the LAST DAY OF UNDERSTANDING.
TOMORROW MAY BE LATE...
LikeGedeon 6 months ago
Sabbatarians simply cannot see that the Law and the Prophets AS A UNIT pointed to Christ (it did not cease until all was fulfilled by Him- Matt.5:17ff). Thereafter, all law is subsumed and transcended by Christ's higher 'law' (mediated by His Spirit). At best the Decalogue remains as a pedagogue only. The Sabbath (Rest) pointed back to deliverance from Egypt, rest in God (His Rest begun at Creation) and forward to deliverance in Christ, our Spiritual Rest (Matt.11:28)
brianhyde63 7 months ago
thanks for the vid. well pleasing to see little sister being articulate and intelligent in what she does. i only fear that she is not being told that SDA is an unclean thing created by the slave master to deceive the Ysraelites like all other religions; and that the sealing being being spoken of is for 144000 men of The Twelve Tribes Of Children of Ysrael. tell her she must leave the SDA and be an Ysraelite Princess. peace out !!!!!!!!!
HowlingBenjamin 10 months ago
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Oh yes she is an Israelite as all who accept Christ
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Thanks for your comment my friend
Jondadon2006 10 months ago
@HowlingBenjamin why should she leave SDA,this church is the the true church God wants . It has been described also in the Bible.. So Sis don't leave your faith..
SuperSabath 9 months ago
@HowlingBenjamin why should she leave SDA,this church is the the true church God wants . It has been described also in the Bible.. So Sis don't leave your faith..
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boko9223 11 months ago
The Sabbath is more than a day! This little sister is way more advanced than others. There are blessings in the sacrifice of giving up self, blessings far greater than the most pleasurable sins, yet hidden to those who want to be yoked to the satanic trinity of self, idols, and Satan. It is not about faith vs. works, but faith that works. It is not about literal vs. spiritual truth, but spiritual truth that is literal. LEARN MORE: READ "CRY OF THE FOUNTAIN OF LIFE" via
boko9223 11 months ago 2
Praise God! The Sabbath message is going out in its fullness, even by the children! It is all about Christ and His righteousness. We must cease our own ways and let God's ways be sealed in us--our thoughts, desires, words, looks, and actions. We cannot reproduce Jesus without knowing [resting in, communing with] Him nor are we safe without His righteousness in us. We must bear the cross [sacrifice]. Call it bondage if you want, but the only way to heaven is the yoke of Christ (Matt. 11:28-30).
boko9223 11 months ago 2
Cute little thing! Out of the mouth of babes! Very inspirational! Amen!
Habsfan0206 11 months ago
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PrayerisLoveinaction 11 months ago
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This video is DISGUSTING ! Brain wash them when there young. I got news for you STUPID ass FOOLS !
God and ALL religions are a MAN MADE fairy tale !
Snitzky666 1 year ago
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How can you say it is a fairytale? Do you believe Alexander the great, Caesar, Napoleon existed? These men were in history and recorded which is why we believe so. So as the Bible records Jesus in History, how can that be a fairytale? That means you say that history is a fairytale.
Jondadon2006 1 year ago 2
@Jondadon2006 So your telling me, any RUBBISH that man writes down on a peice of paper, must be fact ? Tell me you think Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are real. Go ahead, say it.
What about all the other Gods ? How many fairy tale God stories are there ? Your saying your fairy tale god storie is real, but the others are not ? Its impossible to have that many different gods. Its nonsense and rediculous.
Snitzky666 1 year ago
@Snitzky666
My friend answer the question. Do you believe those men were real?
Jondadon2006 1 year ago
@Snitzky666, so I guess your comments must apply also to the theory of evolution also written on paper or the teachings of Mo, Confucious...or Satan (eg. Church of Satan).
Habsfan0206 11 months ago
@Snitzky666, how is it brainwashing when we teach them the truth about God? So what should we teach them? Left-wing lies about evolution and doing whatever is good for oneself?
Habsfan0206 11 months ago 2
@Snitzky666 i used to think that until God saved me but God give us freewill God bless you
FuckMainstream562 10 months ago
Super cuteness overload. I'm putting in my order, Mom and Dad. You can make one for me anytime you're ready.
tonadachi 1 year ago
@tonadachi
Oh sorry I didn't understand your comment.
God bless
Jondadon2006 1 year ago
i had to come back to visit this:) nice video, true we are to be separate..
onegreeneye 1 year ago 3
Mat. 12:1-8 The pharisees were accusing Jesus of doing something unlawful on the Sabbath.Jesus reminded them of King David and what he did on the Sabbath which would have seemed unlawful " 7But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless" By condemning people for having church on Sun you're condemning the guiltless. Jesus desires mercy and not sacrifice SDA is a cult, and the traditions of man make no effect the word of God.
kris38ddd 1 year ago
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My friend no one is condemning people for going church on sunday. Those who have a knowledge are condemning themselves because the Bible does not teach that and even in Bible prophecy, we are foretold that the papal system will think to change times and laws and this has happened with changing the Sabbath to sunday and also idol worship. The message is to reform people back to a thus saith the Lord and not what man says.
Also Sabbath keeping goes WAY deeper than church attendance
Jondadon2006 1 year ago 2
How old is she??
kris38ddd 1 year ago
Can we fly this little girl to VA? There are many sunday churches who could benefit from hearing God's truth and seeing how powerfully He uses even the babes, who are obedient to His Word! What a blessing!
hudsonmom31 1 year ago
Psalms 8:2: Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.
Matthew 21:16: And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?
tlpjohn40 1 year ago
so now youtube won't let us share this w/other yt friends?
shineurs2 1 year ago
Prov.22
[6] Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
mozadek1 1 year ago
Remarkable! Her grace and well spoken ways are one thing, but her knowledge of the word... All glory to the most high!
InfamousJBlack99 1 year ago 2
Wow!!!Amen, We underestimate the Power of the Holy Spirit. Prime example of the Almighty taking the weak things to confound the strong. Since the parents will not hear the aged,God gave this message through the mouths of a babe. Praise him indeed!
Rev12eleven 1 year ago
no one is talking about this young girl speaking like a elder enlish proper professor.. what? i dont understand her ability to do this,.. who were her parents upbringing? its definitly spiritual, whether what side is to be seenbut why are all of you talking doctrine on youtube, its not a debate site if youd really like to win or lose, but only God can tell.. jairus
nathanadamsjairus 1 year ago
Beautiful! How can you say anything bad about children preaching and serving the Lord??
nckracing 1 year ago
Pure, unadulterated child abuse. This kid is no more a Christian than she is a politian. She is TOO YOUNG to form such opinions & has no knowledge of the alternatives therefore this is nothing more than a shocking, painfully tragic display of indoctrination. The parents deserve to be strung up.
ReptilianFreemason 2 years ago
While evolutionism is definitely not your strong point you are definitely out of your league here. If you were open to truth you would quickly learn that this girl has insight into some very serious things that are happening and soon to happen in our world. Her words will ring true in your ears soon enough. I just hope you will be open then.
carp1844 2 years ago
Evolution isn't my strong point? lol, coming from somebody who believes evolutionary theory states that dogs should give birth to cats, that's pretty rich.
Strange you say that when what i claim is backed by the entire scientific community & has over 235,000 peer-reviewed papers verifying it lol.
Oh i'm open to truth alright, it's just egotistical, subjective, superstitious bullshit i have a problem with.
You keep wishing for the world to end while science continues to further humanity.
ReptilianFreemason 2 years ago
According to evolutionary theory all that is needed is the magic wand of time for a dog to eventually produce a cat. I was being facetious by removing the magic wand in order to expose how ridiculous your religion is. I believe dogs came from dogs. You believe dogs came from soup. Start producing millions of gradations from every species on the planet and you will have your proof. Producing a few creatures with features in common with others is not proof of evolution.
carp1844 2 years ago
Wow Thats great Have you noticed every one who trys to prove the SDA religion wrong cant explain why they worship on sunday when we can tell them why we worship on saturday
JordanZzzWorld 2 years ago 9
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I can explain sunday worship using the bible...Acts 20:7 And on the FIRST day of the week, when the deciples came together to break bread (not natural food). Paul PREACHED unto them..
jacobstwelve 2 years ago
This simply does not prove it was a day of worship. Someone can preach anyday of the week. the Bible clearly states what day is the day GOD chose to have man worship him. Genesis 2. I challenge you to find ONE verse in the Bible that proves the day was changed by the ONLY ONE who can change it... Thanks GOD bless you as you search for Truth.
brobenz 2 years ago 4
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"I challenge you to find ONE verse in the Bible that proves the day was changed...."
Hbr 4:7 Again, he limiteth a CERTAIN DAY, saying in David, TODAY, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Even those who celebrated the seventh day sabbath hadn't yet entered into the true rest that God wished to provide for his people.
It's upon belief we enter into his rest, and it's entered into upon the DAY you believe..so make that day Today!
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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The seventh day sabbath was given because the way had not yet been made for us to enter into the heavenly rest provided in Christ Jesus, so he gave us the seventh day sabbath as a sign, a promise of the rest that would come.
So that certain day is no longer the seventh day but today as Hebrew so states. When we believe in jesus he raises us up to sit in heavenly places with him, and we can rest in the same resting place as him.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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This is why we now 'remember' his resurrection with the bread and wine as Jesus commanded us to, so we'd never forget so great a freedom and rest that has been provided by him.
We don't look at the sign anymore, a sign that only promised of a rest that would come, we rest in the reality, Jesus Christ...and the new remembrance he gave us in the new covenant.
Whether it be done on saturday or sunday makes no difference, what is important is to remember him and what he did for us.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
That is like saying that it makes no difference which tree Adam and Eve ate their fruit from. We may consider it a minor thing to choose which fruit we eat or which day we honor as God's memorial of creation but that doesn't matter. What matters is what God thinks. God states that if we offend in one point then we are guilty of all. The fourth commandment certainly qualifies as "one point". God never changed the Sabbath. Beware of Satan's counterfeit sabbath. It's worse than you think!
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Carp - can man worship God any day?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
My sister you are asking a deceiving question. Ofcourse man worships everyday but there is a day God set for a reason and there has always been a faithful remnant who obeyed all the words that come from the mouth of God. Do you celebrate your birthday everyday or is there a set day? logically on the set day.
But I tell you this, that you are trying to make of non effect the 10'C because you break one, you break them all. Be very careful what you are doing
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
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QUOTE: that you are trying to make of non effect the 10'C because you break one, you break them all"
Attach that phrase to the whole law, Jondadon, not just the ten commandments. You break any of the commandments of God, and you are found guilty of the law.
Do you perform sacrifices? Do you still follow every single dietary law he provided? It wasn't just the breaking of the ten specific commandments that condemned men, it was any law they broke, found in the law of God.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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If man can worship any day and any time, then man cannot condemn man for doing so.
You miss the entire purpose of the reason God gave man various rests throughout the year, including the seventh day.
These reminded the people of him, the one who set them free, it wasn't a time to remember the earth, it was a time to remember 'the creator' who made the earth. The same creator who sanctifies them.
The earth doesn't sanctify the people, does it? The rest pointed ahead to Christ who sanctified.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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Exd 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it [is] a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that [ye] may know that I [am] the LORD that doth sanctify you
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and [that] the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
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Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
The sabbath was designed for people to remember the Lord and the rest he would provide for them through Christ.
The bible says:
Hbr 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
The law spoke of a promise, that promise was Christ. The law was a shadow, the reality is Christ.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
The time was coming when man could enter into rest. This rest could only be entered into once Christ came.
Because of Christ, not because of ourselves, we are now seated in the heavenlies with Christ. We're santified, justified, and are in the Holiest of Holies with God. The veil was rent because Christ prepared the way in.
We're not searching for righteousness anymore, we've found it in Christ.
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Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
The physical rest of the sabbath pointed ahead to a time when man would be made whole and find rest in Christ.
Sacrifices pointed ahead to a time when the true sacrifices blood would be shed that could cleanse us of our sin.
The sacrifices performed before couldn't cleanse us of our sin, no more than the seventh day sabbath could truly give a man rest for their souls.
The cleansing and rest is only found in Jesus Christ. When one comes to Christ, they find rest from their works.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
It's only when Christ makes us whole have we truly entered into rest from our works.
God says now you can rest from your works as I have from mine. God only rested when the earth was made whole, and you can only rest once you have been made whole.
And you have been made whole through Christ. This wholeness doesn't end on Sunday, or monday, or tuesday. You are made whole now and forever.
You can stop from your works of trying to make yourself whole, and rest in Christ everyday because he makes
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
you whole.
Don't you see? The sabbath can't give you the true rest, anymore than sacrificing animals can cleanse you of your sin.
It was just a shadow of what was to come. You may not accept this, but it is not a deception. They didn't find rest back then in those things either, it was only when they put their faith in the promises that were to come that saved their souls and made them righteous.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
My rest comes not from resting on any particular day, it comes because Christ has justified, sanctified, and made me whole.
Think about this. The earth took seven days to be made whole, right? What happened on the eighth day?
Did it somehow become un-whole causing him to have to start that work of creation again? Or do you agree that the work he is doing now is different and he never started that same work back up again?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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God never truly stops working, even on the seventh day. The work he did stop, however, was his creative work. Not because it was the seventh day, but because his work of creating the earth and the heavens was complete.
When Jesus ascended back to heaven he ceased from his work of preparing the way for salvation because it was finished, but he is continually working.
We never truly stop working, BUT our search for being made right in God's eyes is over, we're a sanctified people.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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We now rest as they rested because we have been made whole. We can no longer take that work back up again because its finished.
The work we do now is different than the work we sought to do before.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
May God bless you jondadon:)
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
After all that is said, you are still breaking a commandment of God willfully no matter how much you try to justify it as your only looking at it from one aspect. You still forget about the memorial of creation
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
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Are you breaking God's sacrificial commands because you don't literally perform physical sacrifices, jondadon?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
You see your doing the typical thing again. Showing the non distinctness of the laws and thus making like I said, non effect of the 10'C
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
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yes or no...Are you breaking God's sacrificial commands because you don't literally perform physical sacrifices?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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you make a distinction that doesn't exist, so my question stands as is.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
Think about it. The distinction is based on what laws you wanna keep and what ones you don't, not whether or not God wrote it with his finger, which is the explanation that some love to give.
Do you keep all the dietary and health laws? No, mostly just the pork law, right?
Do you keep all the sacred assembly days? No, mostly just the sabbath, right?
It's inconsistent, which shows this thinking came from man, not God.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
You aren't anymore breaking the command to perform physical sacrifices than I am breaking the sabbath.
Because these laws are fulfilled in a person only when they accept Jesus, and he imputes his righteousness to them. Showing them as sanctified, justified in the eyes of God, as a person in whom the law has been fulfilled, not through our works, but through his.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
The law is not based on what I want to keep and what not, God has given us what to keep and what not.
10'C - The Standard
Ceremonial - What you do when you break the 10'C
Dietry laws - Already there before, in the time of Noah and connected to thou shalt not kill as you can kill your body with what you eat
Judicial laws - The laws of the land
What was done? The handwriting of ordinances. No the 10'C. God may aswel blot Himself out if He removes the 10'C
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
See I told you, you focus on the works so much. You don't focus on Christ in you to preform the works of righteousness.
In other words your saying you can sin sin sin and Christ will accept you. All you need to do is just say the words I believe but you can contniue in sin. Just as the serpent said to eve. Ye shall not surely die.
Do you not know that if you are wearing the righteousness of Christ that you must take of your own righteousness? I clear something up for you showing distinction...
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
This is keeping the law through works:
I keep Gods commandments so I am holy but I do hate you. IF the law didnt say thou shalt not kill, I would kill you. - No fruit!
This is Christ living you in which the laws by Him through you is kept:
Why would I want to kill you? I love you
Why would I want to take you spouce? I love you
Why would I want to steal from you? I love you
The fruit is Love
Because I love Christ, I dont even want to think of committing sin that put Him on the cross
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
So you need to ask. Do you love God, keep His commands as this is the love of God that we keep them
Do you accept the cross? If so stop teaching against the 10'C and allow God to write them in your Hearts simply as Christ blood confirmed the convenant so don't teach against the cross.
Do you believe His word? He said if you want to enter into live keep the commandments. Without faith, your not saved. Do you believe His word by faith?
Do you believe Hes Creator? Remember the Sabbath Day (7th)
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
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The point is God accepts us even though we are sinners, Jondadon, otherwise we'd stand no hope.
He doesn't accept you after you do a certain amount of good works for him. He doesn't wait to see how perfect you'll be in your walk. He accepts YOU because of Jesus.
He accepted Abraham and made him righteous before he circumcised his flesh.
After we come to Christ and are sealed, we receive the Holy Spirit, who leads us into the truth...
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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After we have already been sealed and bought by God, the Holy Spirit reveals to us the love of Christ. We're encouraged to put on the yoke of Christ.
We see how Christ loved us, and through that, we learn how to love others. Christ loved us much more than anything the ten commandments could have ever portrayed.
He teaches us mercy, kindness, forgiveness, how to be humble..how to lay down our lives for those around us...It's these fruits that come to pass in the life of a believer.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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We're not by any means perfect, and you know that as well as I do, but we're not accepted because we're perfect..We're accepted because he was perfect...and as we walk in him, he transforms us, helps us become more like him.
But that transforming isn't keeping us saved, or making us saved..its because we have his spirit inside us.
So my thinking isn't that different from yours, except for the fact that I view the law, and the sabbath different than you do.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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I don't believe in sinning anymore than you do.
Sad fact is though, we are at constant war with the flesh, and while we can overcome in the name of Jesus, we 'do' fall. And if we fall the bible says we have an advocate with the father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
if we say we have no sin we call God a liar and the truth isn't in us. Our only plea, our only hope is Jesus. While our lives are being transformed, our only hope still can ever be Jesus.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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When someone hurts us, who do we turn to to learn how to forgive, Jondadon? Is it the ten commandments, or do we turn to Christ, who taught us how to forgive by how he forgave us?
Being transformed into the likeness of christ isn't about being transformed into the likeness of the ten commandments, but rather having our character become more like his through his Spirit which lives in us.
Our only difference jondadon is our stance on the sabbath, nothing to do with sin.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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Well actually..The difference is, you look to the ten commandments when determining how to be like Christ, but I prefer to look to Christ alone when learning how to become more like him.
Theres no better place to look then to the life of Christ, and how he treated the people around him, and what he did for you..Not what the law can do for you, but what Christ has done for you.
For the law can do nothing but kill.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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To be honest though, I'm not the one focusing on works..
You believe that the sabbath seals you, that its the seal of God..And if you don't worship, or rest on the sabbath you won't be sealed.
Thus making anyone who doesn't keep it lost, rather than what their decision is about Jesus, it becomes a decision of what law they keep.
Funny thing is, you don't even teach to keep the sabbath properly, thus if this were the case, you wouldn't be sealed either.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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There is no playing around with the Sabbath. We can't just choose to keep one part of the sabbath and reject the other. Either you keep it all, or you are a breaker of it.
So you can't really determine whether or not someone does or does not love God because they don't keep the sabbath as you do, or claim that they love to sin because they don't keep it as you do....since not even you keep the sabbath as the bible commanded.
I'll keep believing its a shadow of Christ because the bible says it
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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For example
Do you light a fire in your fireplace if you have one, or know others in your church that do?
Do you boil water?
Do you make others work, such as gas attendants?
Do you make your mother clean up after you on the sabbath?
If something bad happened on the sabbath would you not phone the cops? making them work.
I mean come on, do you really keep the sabbath as the bible commanded? The consequence for breaking the sabbath was death, how many deaths would you have faced if you...
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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add up all the times you've broken the seventh day sabbath....
You keep the sabbath according to yourself, but not according to the bible..so when you condemn others of breaking it because they don't keep it like you do, you are found guilty of doing the same....
You can fight against this if you want, but its the truth.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
And to add also, it is quite clear that you don't understand the context. Why do you read one verse and base a conclusion? Read the context. Firstly would they say not to kindle a fire on the Sabbath? Why is that? Then you read the rest of the CONTEXT in Chapter 35. It was based on building the Tabernacle. This was the industrial fire that was been talked of. Not a fire of cook or sacrificing because even Lev 6:13 shows that the fire never went out even through the Sabbath.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
The Jews were so Zealous in building the tabernacle that they would have worked right through the Sabbath in heating the metals with *fire* in order to complete the sanctuary. It is quite sad to critic something outside of context.
Until you understand the depth of the Sabbath, it makes no sense to try and deceive many.
You don't believe the Sabbath of the 10'C distinctly showing us that God is the creator and using it as a mere day for sacrifice a shadow is up to you but your still sinning
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
You think it is just a mere keeping the Sabbath, going to church listening to a sermon, and going home that is the seal? Thats why you have come to your conclusion because you don't know the depth.
Isa 42:21 "The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable."
The Sabbath teaches what we are to be, Holy. For you to keep the Sabbath Holy, you yourself must ne Holy. The Sabbath is to remind us of what we are to be: Holy, Peculiar
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
What you feed your mind in the week will determine how you will keep the Sabbath.
If you feed your mind foolishness of the world, on the Sabbath, thats what you will be thinking of and thus you can't keep the Sabbath according to Isa 58:13,14
The manner did not fall on the Sabbath because you were to receive the blessing as the bread throughout the week that on the Sabbath your so full of the blessing, you can't hold it in because you were expected to be blessed already to share it out
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
The Sabbath is the sign of the special work sealing Gods people. The Sabbath was the sign that God sanctifies us and that what the Holy Spirit does, sealing us into the truth.
The Sabbath is the sign of Gods creative power that because we BELIEVE that He created the world in 6 days, we can also believe that He can 'CREATE' in us a clean Heart Ps 51 - Righteousness by faith.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
The Sabbath is the sign that we rest in Christ that even when the time of trouble comes, we are saved by Him and rest in that faith not wavering.
This is just a sample of the magnification of the Sabbath but because you have already closed your mind to it, you won't see it.
You think the Sabbath command is a shadow, you may aswell think it for the rest of the 9 and thus there is no law making everyone sinless because your not judged without a law. Think of the consequence on what your saying
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
EGW through inspiration of the Holy Spirit says it so clear regarding the law which is basically what your attacking
"There are those who profess to serve God, while they rely upon their own efforts to obey His law, to form a right character, and secure salvation. Their hearts are not moved by any deep sense of the love of Christ, but they seek to perform the duties of the Christian life as that which God requires of them in order to gain heaven. Such religion is worth nothing....
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
When Christ dwells in the heart, the soul will be so filled with His love, with the joy of communion with Him, that it will cleave to Him; and in the contemplation of Him, self will be forgotten." Stept to Christ pg 44,45
Its not about works but if you have a deep sense of the law of God, you will obey every word that He commands you but sadly I have to be specific because you will say 'why don't you keep the sacifical laws' so i'll be frank. The 10'C.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
...Both in letter and Spirit because the spirit covers the letter. e.g. If I love you (spirit) i won't commit murder (letter)
You need to ask yourself, if there is 10'C even in the Heavenly sanctuary right now by which we are judged, why am I breaking one of them that says Remember? Does God waste words? Why am I denying the cross of Christ even though His blood confirmed the covenant writing the law on our Hearts? Your sincere what you believe but so was Saul persecuting Christians. Be aware!
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
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QUOTE: but they seek to perform the duties of the Christian life as that which God requires of them in order to gain heaven. Such religion is worth nothing....
She says this, and yet at the same time teaches that unless man keeps the sabbath he won't receive the seal of God. And if he isn't sealed by God, he's lost.
I'm afraid you can't keep denying this Jondadon, you have a work based salvation and not because your doing works simply out of love.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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You've convinced yourself you keep it out of love and not for salvation...yet the very core of your salvation depends on you keeping it.
You've made it a burden.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
No I love the law as I love Christ John 14:15
"I DELIGHT to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is WITHIN MY HEART" Ps 40:8
You see I just explained how the Sabbath is the sign and you have not understood showing you closed your mind and it is sad how you even took a sentence of EGW and made a conclusion which proves my point further.
In result, your not here to get an understanding, your here to bash, to critic, to mock and thats not the Spirit of Christ. Christ says come let us reason
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
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You mention that i don't understand..Can you respond to my following question with a yes or no answer please:
Do you believe that the sabbath is the seal of God, and that if people don't keep it they won't be sealed?
I don't want a long explanation, just a yes or no answer.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
Read the explination I gave regarding Sabbath if you haven't already
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
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Please answer:) The question is concerning whether or not I truly understand your stance on the sabbath.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
I have already answered. You can't ask a question based on your wisdom and expect it to be answered in the way you want it. I can ask does the Bible say don't smoke weed yes or no. I would say no but will have to explain the principle but the fact i say no, means they can say i am not in trouble then. I gave you an explination which you should get the answer from. But I will say this. The 3 Angels message will bring conviction to the truth as many now don't know the truth
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
I am not here saying if you don't keep the Sabbath day your lost, I am saying if you willfully disobey, your lost. The Sabbath calls us to keep the commandments of God, teaching us to cease from sin
"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath *CEASED* from sin;" 1 Pe 4:1
"For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath CEASED from his own works, as God did from his." Heb 4:10
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
The Sabbath is the sign of the special work of the Holy Spirit sealing Gods people. The inward is always shown by the outward.
I can't just say yes or no because you would gather your conclusion from that yes or no. You wouldn't ask why yes or why no because you already have judged that we are a works for salvation people rather a cease from sin people who loves Christ and keeps His commandments.
There is more to it than just salvation by works. There is more to learn than that
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
@Jondadon2006It's by grace that we are saved, not that anyone should boast. Paul said that when he wanted to do right, sin was ever before him. we should abstain from sin , But A tree is known by its fruits, and going to church on Sunday or Sat. or Wed. does not dictate our salvation, Our salvation is determined by the fruits that we exhibit Love, Joy ,Peace, Patience, longsuferring,Gentleness,kindness,meekness, not by our outward manifestation of "being good". there is none good no not 1
kris38ddd 1 year ago
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No one is saved by keeping the law of God, we are all saved by the blood of Christ but do we sin because Christ has died for us? No! You choosing to reject sin is a direct that your placing yourself in God's grace.
My friend I appreciate your comment as I do all but I really need to correct you that we should not take a single one of the 10'C lightly because cain put his fruit on the alter but it was not accepted because he did not obey. Sabbath is deeper than church attendance
Jondadon2006 1 year ago
How can a SDA be a cult when we are sticking with what the Bible says? It really does not make any sense. A cult is a group which goes away from the clear pure truths in the word of God. Do you not believe that God wants us to keep His 10'C which are a transcript of His character? You cannot separate the fruit of the spirit with the law of God. The first part of the fruit is LOVE: Jesus says if you love me keep my commandments John 14:15. My friend don't stop at one point, keep going forward
Jondadon2006 1 year ago 2
@Jondadon2006, well written my brother in Yeshua! Ecclesiastes 12:13, Matthew 19:17, John 14:15 (as you stated), 1 John 5:3 and Revelation 14:12 clearly stipulate to keep the commandments! Amen!
Habsfan0206 11 months ago
What are our works? the works of the flesh
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but WITH THE FLESH the law OF *sin.*
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
There is a way that seems right to a man but the way leads to death.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Yes and he should worship God every day. BUT there is a special day that God Himself set aside as a time to come together and spend time only with Him. The Sabbath is not like any other day just like the sanctuary was not like any other tent. God placed His blessing on the 7th day and hallowed it. We don't have permission to choose our own day just as we don't have permission to kill or steal. The Sabbath was instituted in Eden and will be kept in heaven. Why would God skip our generation?
carp1844 2 years ago
So why don't you kill those who work on the Sabbath? Do you pick & choose what you want from scripture? You're either a literalist or you're not. You can't say in one breath that every word of the bible is true & to be taken literally & in the next, discard anything you don't feel is now acceptable. Stand by your extremist convictions or quit whining about things you don't understand.
ReptilianFreemason 2 years ago
Adam & Eve were sybolic figures lol, even a child could tell you that. They were never meant to be taken literally!
I love how you claim to know the mind of an omnipotent deity, that's some ego you have i have to say lol.
ReptilianFreemason 2 years ago
"And they, continuing daily, and breaking bread from house to house..." Breaking bread was a daily occurrence. Breaking bread does not change any of the commandments. If God wanted to change His unchanging law He would say so plainly.
carp1844 2 years ago 3
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make sure that you also teach her how useless a role god played while her ancesters were getting hung by the K.K.K. which by the way is a christion organization.
awakenmoor 2 years ago
By Gods grace they will see Him at the resurrection along with everyone persecuted in the past. KKK was just a degree on how sinful this world is and how God will destroy sin. Even Christ went through horror even worst as this, but when we see things through Christs eyes, we can see how Just His word is.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Isn't she a sweat heart, says God.
NEWKNOWLEDGE 2 years ago 2
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KKK is an false christian movement same as catholic, do a LITTLE research become you make yourself out to be a complete FOOL...
jacobstwelve 2 years ago
harriet tubman said that she could have freed many more slaves than she did if they only realised that they were slaves.
awakenmoor 2 years ago
Acts 20:7 says the disciples worshipped on sunday.
Hebrews 1:5 says Jesus in not the Archangel Michael.
Now tell me, why are you a Seventh Day Adventist?
DavidVelezPerez 2 years ago
Acts 20:7 is not a good arguement to base sunday worship as they met on different days but you don't call it Sabbath. Also if Acts 20:7 was clear, it would says and they gathered on the first day of the week giving reason that Christ rose on that day. But nothing was said.
If you study line upon line, you will see this is one of the many characters of Christ. Christ is not an angel at all no but if you compare scripture, it is obvious.
I am a SDA because it is the closes to Bible truth
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
And to mention also that if you look at the original word for michael archangel, you will get 'the chief messenger who is as God'
Christ has the voice of the archangel, Michael intercedes in Dan 12:1 and only Christ does this but what we are saying is that Jesus is not an angelic being because He is the creator but the Bible even calls people angels which means messenger. Paul was known in Galatians as an angel of the lord but we know hes not a angelic being but a messenger. Hope this helps :0)
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Still Michael is an Angel. And God said no Angel is His son. And God's son is Jesus who the Bible says is God in John 1:1. So hope that helped you find Jesus. 0 :-)
DavidVelezPerez 2 years ago
I take it you have not read my posts.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
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Jesus Abolished Israel's law with ten commandments and regulations.
Eph 2:15 (NIV) 15by abolishing in his flesh the law
with its commandments and regulations.
Notice, "the law" is singular that was abolished, not laws. There was just "one law" the Mosaic law with many commands and regulations, and it was abolished by Jesus.
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Malcie007 2 years ago
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God canceled the written code and regulations nailing it to the cross. SDAs claim that the "written code" was not the Ten, but the law that Moses wrote.
Both God and Moses wrote the Ten Commandments.The Ten Commandments written on stone tablets by the finger of God were placed inside the Ark of the Covenant,and they were also written by Moses on parchment and placed outside the Ark in the Book of the Covenant. Other wise you would not be reading it in your Bible.Col 2 and Ex 24 explains this.
Malcie007 2 years ago
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Col 2:13 - 14 (NIV) 13When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
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Malcie007 2 years ago
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Ex 24:3 - 4 (NIV) 3When Moses went and told the people all the LORDS words and laws, they responded with one voice, Everything the LORD has said we will do. 4Moses then wrote down everything the LORD had said. He got up early the next morning and built an altar at the foot of the mountain and set up twelve stone pillars representing the twelve tribes of Israel. vs. 7, Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people.
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Malcie007 2 years ago
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Jesus was taken down from the cross, but the law with the sabbath remains nailed to the cross for eternity. SDAs try their best to pry the nails from the cross to make the sabbath binding on Christians.
Malcie007 2 years ago
Well put the other Ten there and sin all you want
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
SDA's assume that Adam and Eve observed the Sabbath during the first 7th day in the Garden of Eden and so, to SDA's, the first Sabbath began in Eden. But today, the Sabbath begins west of the International Date Line (IDL) in the Pacific Ocean & so SDA's are unknowingly breaking the Sabbath every week unless they can move the IDL from its current location to a new north-south location somewhere along the eastern border of the Garden of Eden. (smile)
maltanistic 2 years ago
why repeat what you said already? I have already address the answer. did you not read it?
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Physical Works means nothing to Yahweh and you are teaching this to children that if they keep the Sabbath that this will merit some reward. Water Baptism, Communion, Sacraments, Sabbath Worship, Feet Washing, Etc. ALL ENDED WITH THE DEATH OF YAHSHUA AND THE IMMERSION(BAPTISM) OF THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVEN ON PENTECOST(50)! End Carnality and focus on spirit while living in this AGE OF GRACE. Why live a life in bondage to rules and regulations? Why not let Yahshua in YOU work out your problems? SPIRIT
1polymath 2 years ago
You are looking from the outside in. we are not teaching physical works which is how you are looking at it in. The spirit of the law is love. if we love God, keep His Commandments jn 14:15. We dont teach rules and regs. the Bible doesn't support Water Baptism, Communion, Sacraments, Sabbath Worship, Feet Washing, all ended at the cross.
The Sabbath is the trademark of God stating i am creator of Heaven and Earth. When that day is kept, it is through acknowledgement He is our God we serve
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Col: 2:16
Let NO MAN therefore JUDGE YOU in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH DAYS: Which are a SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME; but the body is of Christ.
Sabbath day worship is abolished through the Spirit of the Messiah. No one can really KEEP the Sabbath. Yahshua is Yahweh even on the Sabbath. If work required U to work on Sunday or Saturday you WILL DO IT! IT is the Spirit of the Law! Once again, keeping Sabbath doesn't mean anything!
1polymath 2 years ago
The Sabbath of the 4th commandment is not abolished otherwise you will be abolishing the other 9. It is not the9 commandment.
There are 2 different Sabbath held. The Sabbath of creation and the sabbaths of ordinances. Now Paul is talking about the Sabbath of ordinance not the Ten Commandment Sabbath. e.g. Look at the difference ....
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
...Ordinance sabbaths
"In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have A SABBATH, a memorial of BLOWING OF TRUMPETS, an holy convocation."
"And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the SABBATH, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave OFFERING; seven sabbaths shall be complete:" Lev 23:15,24
Now the 10'C Sabbath
"Remember the Sabbath day...For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is...Ex 20:8,11
Which Sabbath?
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
"Blotting out the HANDWRITING of ORDINANCES that was AGAINST US, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; Col 2:14
The Ten Commandments were not ordinances nor handwritten. What was AGAINST US?
"Take this BOOK OF THE LAW, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness AGAINST THEE" Deut 31:26
What was written in the book of the law was nailed to the cross. NOT the Ten Commandments.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Also the Lambs blood cleans and forgives iniquity,the Conscience(lintel) and cleans hands which are our works(two side posts:two hands) and make our paths straight(pool of blood,blood on feet). Yahshua also is our "Sabbath" which means "Rest." When U inherit the Kingdom you inherit the Sabbath. The Sabbath is also the Age after this one. 1000 years of Rest(Sabbath). The Age when those who have the Holy Spirit will rule and reign. SDA and other protestant stop thinking with a CARNAL MIND! ---->
1polymath 2 years ago
so if your saying we keep the Sabbath in Heaven (1000 years), why is it any different now? the sabbaths that were done away was the sabbaths in Lev 23 where they had ordinance practices. The Ten Commandment Sabbath was established from creation BEFORE there was any sin so it couldn't have been a shadow. The sabbaths added were done on the cross
Also we have always lived in grace. It is not a new age of grace. the OT is full of grace from Gen 3:15 onwards.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Lets see what the Bible says about the carnal mind
"Because the CARNAL MIND is enmity against God: for it is NOT SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF GOD, neither indeed can be." Romans 8:7
"For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am CARNAL, sold UNDER SIN." Romans 7:14
So if we are keeping the commandments of God which He told us to keep and as even the Remnant keep (rev 12:17, 14:12) and if SIN is transgression of the law, how is it that we have a carnal when we love God and obey Him keeping His Law?
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Because in reality there was nothing good enough that we could do to obtain salvation. This is why Yahshua performed all the work that was neccessary for us to inherit salvation. When we inherited his spirit(pentecost) we also inherited ALL THE WORKS HE DID THAT WAS NECCESSARY TO RECIEVE YAHWEH. Blotting out the handwritting of ordinances that was against us. All we need now is the love Yahweh with all our might,etc, and love our neighbor as ourselves. This is the New Covenant/Testament.
1polymath 2 years ago
You see the Bible talks of two types of works. There is works for salvation and their is the works that is the fruit of love e.g. if you love me you won't kill me. On the other hand someone might say i wish i could kill you but the Law says not to. When you have the love in your Heart, the commandments no longer need to be applied because by nature your keeping it. This is why is says in Romans 13:9 if you keep the last 6 of the 10'C, you are showing love to man. So the first 4, love to God
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
The Physical things are a spiritual representation of Yahshua and what is to come. Rom 1:19-20. THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS 'THE AGE OF THE LAW OF WORKS'! That's why it is called "THE OLD COVENANT/ TESTAMENT! The NEW TESTAMENT brought all things into conformity according to GRACE! The NEW TESTAMENT/COVENANT is now written in the HEARTS AND MINDS of HIS PEOPLE!Jer 31:31-33 and this style of worship can only be expressed in Spirit and not Carnality or physical WORKS.
1polymath 2 years ago
Oh yes I agree that the physical points to the spiritual but does that mean that I can say I love you but I am going to steal from you or I will take your life etc? The letter is covered through the spiritual aspect. If we neglect the letter, we can harm physically which is not Biblical. Is there a physical Earth? Yes so that means we still celebrate the Sabbath as we are worshipping the creator.
EXACTLY. The Law is written on the Heart and mind. Nothing about NEW laws but the Laws
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Celebrating the Sabbath or observing is the same as ordinance because people believe by NOT observing this they will be penalized by Yahweh. So do you believe you can obtain salvation by not observing 7th day rituals? If U believe this then it is work and not spirit. And that by performing this work you are doing God's will. He is a Spirit, so no matter what we do in the flesh it counts for nothing because the body will put on incorruption(spirit).
1polymath 2 years ago
This is the mistake that people make about the Sabbath. It is not a RITUAL service, it is there to show the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. I'll tell you how it works
On the Sabbath day, our attention is totally fixed on God. What you think of, talk about, your converse is centered on God. Now people are not able to do this at times because of what they feed their minds throughout the week. So for you to keep the Sabbath, you yourself must have a Holy mindset.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Now if you take away the Sabbath as the 10'C states otherwise, people don't want to change their lifestyle. They say they are under grace and take the grace of God cheaply. The grace of God is nothing to do with free access of breaking the 10'C. I spoke to one person who kept saying they are under grace and I asked If He prayed. He said He is under grace. This is obviously wrong. And it is because of this wrong doctrin on grace, people break the Sabbath and call it a ritual
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
So if someone willfully breaks one of the 10'C, I am not saying this but you are lost because that is not showing love to God and in Hebrew it says if we willfully sin, there remains no more sacrifice for sins because you are not using the grace of God to transform your character.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
An ordinance is something that you feel you must observe as a tradition or a standard. People who bind themselves up will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. If you feel that you must keep the Sabbath then you are still under the law. I can center my thoughts on Yahweh everyday of the week and NOT JUST ON SUNDAY OF SPECIAL OCCASSIONS! This is the fufillment: That by loving Yahweh we keep Yahshua in us establishing a law of FAITH and NOT OF WORKS, INCLUDING DOING SPECIFIC THINGS ON SUNDAY!
1polymath 2 years ago
The Ten Commandments were also nailed to the cross because it was FULFILLED. So was all 613 laws given by YAHSHUA to Moses. You just can't keep one law and discard the others. This is the whole point of the law! You can't keep all the law. U just can't say Sabbath only. ALL must be kept!
1polymath 2 years ago
You see you need to understand the Laws carefully. There were not 613 seperate laws. The laws were laws in itself
10'C - that standard of righteousness
Judgments - to help understand the 10'C
Ceremonial laws - what you need to do if you break the 10'C
etc etc
If the Ten Commandments were nailed to the cross, we have access to sin, satan is no longer a sinner and we are going to keep sinning wilfully without any condemnation. Please understand the difference in the Laws. They are different
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
This is the point I have been trying to get you to understand that all these things go by faith and not works. I don't have to reverence the spirit of Yahweh on the Sabbath only but everyday because his spirit is with us constantly. I will not reserve a special occassion for Him to meditate about Him. I might as well pray on Saturday instead of other days too while I am at it.
1polymath 2 years ago
I understand what your saying but we must remember the tSabbath is the memorial of creation too. Thats the distinctive mark between us and those who believe in other Gods. The fact that our God is creator of Heaven and Earth and is not a creation like idols, should cause us to reverence that day. Ask the Bible questions. e.g.
"Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy"
Why??
"For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea,..." Ex 20:8,11
I keep it in acknowledgement, God is creator.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Remember "Sabbath" is another term for "Rest." Each day of Creation represent a Dispensation according to the days of Creation. Adam, Enoch, Noah, Melchizedek, Moses, Yahshua (6th day, second Adam - was also created on the sixth day), SABBATH DAY(7th) REST: Ressurrection of the Spiritual Adam(Son's of Yahweh)! It doesn't make a differnce if you observe it or not; doesn't make a difference to Yahweh if you don't know how to love your brother.
1polymath 2 years ago
Well thats what you believe but Christ said the 7th day and man says it doesn't matter, I am going to obey God rather than man, especially when it is in company with the other 9 that display sin. I believe it is as important as the rest of the 9
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
So when Yahshua said "IT IS DONE!" What did he mean by this? You keep those 10 Commandments w/ the Law and the rest of those Carnal Ordinances and Traditions. As for me and my house we will serve YAHWEH by loving him with all our heart, might, mind, and strength; and love our neighbor as ourselves! I know Yahshua finished the written code and I accept his work for me through his SPIRIT. Keep your Law of Works. "Yahshua have we not kept thy Sabbath days?" DEPART FROM ME YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY!
1polymath 2 years ago
I agree with what you are saying but thats justification for breaking the ten commandments, I keep the 10C not the ordinances as they nailed. I assume you dont kill steal worship others gods, call the lords name in vain.
You asked why Christ said it is done, this is the answer
and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, Dan 9:27 (prophecy based on Christ)
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
it is finished because we no longer need the sacrifices on earth as Christ FINISHED it through His death. The sacrifice of Christ is the start which is why He is now in the Heavenly Temple
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Totally agree mate!
ovavoo 2 years ago
She's on her way but she can only teach what you SDA falsly taught her. She'll know when she grow up. The 4 points of blood the lintel, two side posts, and basin at the bottom was a foreshadow of Yahshua on the cross: thorn on head(lintel), nail on each hand(2 side posts), and nail in feet(pool of basin blood). The blood was also posted on the inside. The Blood of Yahshua cleans you inside spiritually and your blood is also on the inside. Yahshua also said "I am the door."
1polymath 2 years ago
I hope she meets someone someday that can tell her the truth. God, the tooth fairy and Santa clause are not real...
But shes just a child... It takes alot to be an Atheist.
bananabread119 2 years ago
She did very good! I am proud of her. May the Lord continue to show His love and guidance to her. "out of the mouths of babes" isn't that the truth!
Chassysweet 2 years ago
Amen. This is what the Spirit of God does for anyone. Glory to God.
Thanks for the comment
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
This has to be a Sabbath keeping church !!
elgn28 2 years ago 3
from the mouth of babes.. god shows me this too..this is why my kids are different, too..they are piculiar..cause of god wisdom.. homeschool..or private school- ohh! she speaks my heart. God made us homeschool, too! now homebiz! he keeps blessing! i cant believe it.. but, obeying GOD DOES BLESS us, but u must walk NARROW route, many will disagree, but look at their outcome..not as this child. she is used greatly of God! thank u 4 posting. anna-DIED,met JESUS.
onegreeneye 2 years ago