First Look Reviews: Palm Pre smartphone

[BBnose]

Palm probably hsve to pay fee to apple for the multi-touch funtion. Because Apple just have got the patent of this funtion.

[Thug541]

Different tech....so no.

[LoadInUrPants]

very good site. with great info.

[Wankerlito]

The way Apple came up with iphone's user interface is pretty impressive and innovative. They should be allowed to protect their efforts and investments

[Thug541]

Apple didn't come up with it. They bought the company that did.

[limeyboy14]

haha, nice arrested development reference at 3:36

[Tappaz007]

OMG yes finally i can upgrade my palm treo 750!

I love Palm smartphones! I had no interest in the iPhone or the blackberry storm, now i can get a new Palm :D

it wont kill the iPhone but i will blow away the blackberry storm.

[Wankerlito]

Do I smell a lawsuit?

Do a search on Google: Apples Touchscreen Ambitions

Apple has been ripped off!

[patient451]

Palm's legal team has already found at least 4 patents that Palm owns that Apple blatantly violated with the iPhone. Plus, Palm has been working on this phone and OS since Apple started dreaming of the iPhone.

[Wankerlito]

Don't know dude, but it's gonna be war if they are going to court. Also, the patent on the palm, if I'm not mistaken uses a stylus while the iphone uses touch. You can't use a stylus on the iphone.

The palm's body is fucken ugly though.

[patient451]

The patents Palm has brought up involve simple functions, one of which I remember being the ability to put a call on hold and start another phone call without losing track of your first call. The iPhone does that and Palm has had a patent on it for years.

Palm's legal argument comes from a bunch of small functionalities that I think they'll use as means to deter Apple from getting into a costly court battle that they aren't guaranteed to win. Apple's patent only covers multi-touch.

[Wankerlito]

You gotta remember that the patent is on a touch screen using a stylus while the iphone is done on a multitouch so how can you say they are the same? Also keep in mind that one word can totally make it different on the patent world.

Look at Gibson they try suing Guitar Hero.

Their patent is a real instrument, guitar hero is a toy.

Apple can afford to buy them out and close them for good or can drag this lawsuit until palm goes bankrupt. It will be too late then for the pre to come out.

[patient451]

Apple wants to sue because on Jan 20 of this year, they were granted exclusive patents regarding multi-touch technology, which the Pre (and only the Pre) uses. Apple claims this is a violation of their patents, but Palm is pointing out that while they may have violated the multi-touch patent, Apple has violated several Palm patents, including putting a call on hold to start another call. The point here is that Palm and Apple both violate one another's patents, and Palm wants to use this as means

[patient451]

to deter Apple from filing a lawsuit because the legal battle will cost both companies dearly. Apple has more money than Palm but no company ever wants to get into a 50/50 lawsuit that will drain funds and do nothing but bad favors for PR. Palm is not claiming any touchscreen patents, they're just trying to say "yeah, the Pre uses it, but the iPhone uses some of our stuff too". The objective is for the companies to realize the futility of the legal battle and avoid the financial strain.

[Wankerlito]

Apple will not lose money. Why? because they are gonna go after all the phone makers out there that uses their patent and sue them one by one.

I'm sure Apple did their research before designing the iphone. Everything will have to be proven in court.

On the other hand, the palm pre is so obvious, you don't need the court to justify what they copied from Apple.

[patient451]

Come on dude. Apple's legal team isn't free. Bringing a lawsuit against a company, even a dwindling one like Palm will be costly. Even if Apple wins they'll spend ungodly amounts of time dealing with Palm's obstacles. I didn't make up facts when I said Palm has AT LEAST 4 patents dating back before the iPhone was ever thought of that Apple violated. Apple's multi-touch claim is legally theirs, yes, but the iPhone is not so purely original that Apple should win all immunities. Apple is a still a

[patient451]

company and just like Palm they're bound by legalities. Apple stole some of Palm's stuff. Palm stole some of Apple's stuff. The only difference here is the Pre has been in development since before the iPhone came out. Palm verified this themselves. Apple's patent is less than 3 weeks old. It's still a patent, I'm not saying it isn't, but this is a two-sided deal that Apple should not want to fight Palm over. Bad PR and legal fees will ruin marketing for the next iPhone.

[Thug541]

Copied what? Touching a screen...multi touch? There are many different patents for multi-touch.

Did you know Palm has a patent on "airplane mode?" Yet every other company has it as well.

Patents can be very vague my friend. Just accept your phone won't be the best on the block anymore.

[archaedemos]

awesome lookin device.

[castra73]

Looks so awesome. Promising device.

[awhattheheck]

13th... yeah

[Ericspasstime]

id like to have known more on battery life and that charger dock looked cool but id like to see connections and external connections

[iMaxxxxx]

that looks really nice and an actual REAl competitor of the iphone. wow. if i had to get another phone thats not iphone i would 100% get this

[eSilva90]

cool, could this kill the iphone....naw

[backdoorman1971]

can't wait .. out here in the u.s we're getting it by june or july :D for sprint

can't wait !

[Wankerlito]

Coming out on June or July? Hahahaha That's if apple don't slap a lawsuit on them. Don't be so sure. The palm pre is one of the biggest copycat that ever came out in the phone business history of mankind. it will be a different story if they were the first one to come out with the phone.

Only then they changed their phone design when they saw the apple iphone. It's so obvious that all their ideas came from the iphone.

You would not understand because you did not invent the iphone.

[DrummerGS]

Wow that looks great.

Is it GSM Quadband?

[greensprat]

super!

[ibmxx]

wow induction charging and multiple apps!!! *drooling

[Probewitch]

Another Mac-Wheelbook! No actually didn't look bad; nor the girl either, ha ha.

[devilmagic]

4th!

[gorillaz1920]

third!!!

[newmediaformat]

Great Gizmos

[ghsusaxa75]

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