What really smacks it is the fact that many studies have concluded that the Palestinians and not these 'faux pas' Europeans who caught onto Judaism many centuries ago, are the original inhabitants in the sense that, the Palestinians are an admixture who speak Arabic but converted to Christianity and Islam later on. I would hate to justify trying to be Israeli !
too much talk here, all i gotta say is that whoever doesn't see the truth is blind, but in the end only the truth will win! it is very obvious who is wrong an who is right, its wrong to say both sides are wrong, because one side is definitely worse than the other, and that is israel, if you dont believe so ..then fine, but one day you will see!
Riham, MR. "Palestinian"......my family dates as far back as 1600 in Israel. But my ancestry dates back thousands of years and I have a CONTRACT to show it. The bible.......do you have any purchase agreements???
@shinethelove1 LOL wth? it only became israel in 1948. you are another racist on here, so arguing with you is pointless! and we will get Our Palestinian land back :)
It only became the modern "State of Israel" in 1948(in Hebrew "Medinat Yisrael"), but Jews have traditionally called this land Eretz Yisrael for thousands of years., and yes, there were Jewish states here called Yisrael (and Yehuda) in the past here too. There was never, ever, an Arab "dawlat Filasteen", though. I agree there should be in the future, but it's a NEW thing.
The only reason you're calling yourself "Palestinian" is because the British and French divided up what's now known as Israel, Gaza, West Bank, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan between themselves in 1916 in the Sykes-Picot Agreement and some of your ancestors lived on one side of the line that fell to British control and the Brits decided to call that part "Palestine". Before that, all these areas were just "balad as shams", and under the Ottomans there was no "Palestine".
Ben Dror Yemini (an Israeli from a Yemenite Jewish family) and Bat Ye'or (from an Egyptian-Jewish family) are good writers who put to rest the idiotic lie that Mizrahi Jews whose families came to Israel from Arab-dominated countries were "fellow Arabs" who would rather live under the rule of their "brother Arabs". I like Yemini's writing y also, because he also recognizes that the Pal. Arabs have a right to seek a state of their own in the areas where they dominate.
@ShmorgelBorgel Yep! I see you've been reading "Kedma" (קדמה) too... :)
Indeed, a Two State Solution, with a free Palestinian state in Judea and Sumeria and Gaza (and maybe eve "Jordan" - which was originally a part of "Palestine" too), could be a great solution that would be good for both peoples.. However, I think that unfortunately the Arabs don't want a "good solution" - they want to annihilate the Jewish state, and therefore we'll have no choice but to eventually annihilate them..
@Odedisra : Don't put Palestine in inverted commas you vile eastern European squatter. You have INVENTED YOURSELVES in Palestine. Some goyim cannot be bought to lie for you and your dire revisionism. They should be newted if they have no morals or ethics. Geddit?
@n0manland "Don't put Palestine in inverted commas you vile eastern European squatter."
Since I'm not a bigot, I think it's okay that many "Palestinians" have roots in Eastern European countries, such as Bosnia. They may continue to live here as (A) loyal citizens of the Jewish state of Israel or (B) in their own independent state to be established in part of the formerly Jordanian-occupied territory known as the "West Bank" and the formerly Egyptian-occupied area known as Gaza.
@n0manland Yep! We have "invented ourselves" in this land, but it was more than 3,200 years ago - more than 1,800 years before the Arab-Muslims invaded it from the Arabian desert - and even before the first "Philistine" landed on it's shores.. Try Googling for: "Merneptah Stele", "The Kingdoms of Israel and Judah", "Bible" etc..
Anyway, the ""Palestine" that you and your associates are talking about is "Mandatory Palestine". It was invented in 1917-1920 and it included "Jordan" in the beginning.
Come to California and ask people where there parents are from? I was born in Israel, my parents were born in israel, my parents parent parents were born in Israel....I also have a contract, it's called THE BIBLE
@shinethelove1 3 generations only? i was born in Palestine, my parents were born in Palestine, my grandparents were born in Palestine, and it goes much much further!
My father was born in Palestine, and his parents were born in the Sanjak of Jerusalem in the Vilayet of Damascus, Ottoman Empire, and his grandparents going back several generations were born in Jerusalem Sanjak, Vilayet of Damascus, except they were born in Safat, Vilayet of Beirut, Ottoman Empire. But how come my father was born in Jerusalem "Palestine" and his parents were born in Jerusalem, Ottoman Empire?!
My father, born in 1933, is descended from more than 3 generations (we count 18) in the country, but he was the only generation to be born in "Palestine" because "Palestine" was just the name the British called it from 1917-1948. His ancestors were born in Jerusalem and Galil towns like Safad, Tiberias, Akko, Shfaram and Kefar Yassif (today Shfaram and Kefar Yassif are inside Israeli territory but ZERO Jews live there, but there is still a Jewish cemetery in Kfar Yasif).
Watching this really upsets me. They have absolutely no connection to this country.. These people must have a really bad conscious. I can see it in their faces. They know what they are doing is wrong. That is why israelies are so afraid for themselves - because they know what they did was wrong and they know that the land belongs to the palestinians!!!
It is a funny video, I don't know what the producer wants to prove. Go in the US let's say NY and ask people where they, their parents and grandparents are from, in 80% you will get the same answer: Me or one of my anchestors are from Italy, Ireland, Poland, Hungary, Germany, France, Mexico, Argentina, Brasil and so on from all over the world. Only the Indians are the original natives, their lands were taken and they were put in reservations. I hate hypocrisy.
@stupidseducator dont be stupid and compare two different things, these people that have roots from europe are not ONE religious or ethnic group that want to establish a new county for their own....... :s this video proves a lot! you and your zionist friends are the ONLY ones that refuse to see the truth!
No one will ever understand how they treat people unless you see it with your own 2 eyes. They think its funny to let children cry from irritation or the elderly stand around just for the hell of it. I can go on forever with my experience of going back to my own homeland.
@meno2492 me too. and its the opposite that you say. arabs and jews were in the same streets and same markets. i went to a few arab towns..they were nice actually.
I'm a 19 year old Palestinian born and raised in Chicago and my parents, grandparents great grandparents and so on are from Palestine. I'm only allowed certain places of where my family is from and that is where the Jews are living now. These people have been brainwashed. The Idf makes it hard for me to enter even though I am a visitor.
@jondummitt you are a racist, arguing with you is pointless! what id like to say to you is that zionism is terrorism, and israel will not last for too long, we will get out land back soon :)
@RihamZKH93 - When you fakestians will be ready to recognise Israel as the Jewish homeland than Israel will recognise the West Bank and Gaza streep as the homeland of the so called Palestinians. Israel is ready for two countries for the two people. As long as Hamas says that they will never recognise Israel as the home of the Jewish people, you can only dream about a souvereign country.
@stupidseducator you too can keep dreaming that 'israel' will remain israel! :)we will get our land back from the terrorists! and just so you know, many negotiations took place for two state solution, israel DOES NOT want that! otherwise they wont be still kicking Palestinians out of their homes and increasing the settlements in the west back....when you stop this and your terrorist attacks, well go back to negotiating.
@stupidseducator you too can keep dreaming that 'israel' will remain israel! :)we will get our land back from the terrorists! and just so you know, many negotiations took place for two state solution, israel DOES NOT want that! otherwise they wont be still kicking Palestinians out of their homes and increasing the settlements in the west back....when you stop this and your terrorist attacks, well go back to negotiating.
@RihamZKH93 im not raciest. what you just said is raciest. zionism is the idea that jews should have thier own sovereign nation. that sounds pretty un terroristy
@RihamZKH93 well im a zionist...and not a terrorist...so if all zionists are terrorists you dont make any logical sense. and ive never said anything raciest to you
@jondummitt you support terrorist, so you are one, of course youre going to deny it! and i am muslim and sooo clear that you hate muslims, youve said several things...
@jondummitt first of all, they are extremist minorities. second of all, they are recognized as terrorits by the states and israel...although israel is as bad if not worse than these organizations! and ok terrorists are not a race, therefore im not a racist, you are!
@RihamZKH93 these organizations shoot rockets at civilians. blow up resturants/night clubs/schools. oh and the best they try to blow up hospitals. that makes them terrorists. israel kills people launching rockets. kills suicide bombers/people who plan to blow up civilians. if i had a gun and there was a terrorists infront of me right now i would kill him. with no hesitation
@jondummitt unbelievable, its either youre so ignorant or a big liar, or both! israel bombed hospitals and schools in Gaza, did you hear about that or no? look up the Gaza massacre! if i see an israeli soldier whos been part of the Gaza massacre i would kill him/her with no hesitation! you are defending terrorists, you disgust me
@RihamZKH93 first of most of the "civilians" in the massacre were martyrs for different terrror organizations. see the ilsmic jihad and al asqa martyrs brigade web sites.
and people die in a war. thats what happenes. hamas says they dont want peace. talk to hamas. tell them to stop. there will be peace
@jondummitt REALLY? all the children and the babies belong to organizations? lol shut up please! youre gonna keep defending terrorists, do it! but dont lie, dont ignore the truth, this is low
@RihamZKH93 lol your very uneducated and dont know what your talking about. its really stupid. i actually know some children who have been killed by Palestinian terrorists. your very dumb and its a shame you have enough money to own a computer.
@jondummitt LOL, i will not be as impolite as you are, the last sentence is weird, enough money to own a computer? :/ ok. ummm if anyone's uneducated about this topic here then its you, compare the number of victims and then talk
@jondummitt so whats happening now is not war? :s and 'terrorism does not have to include death', this is what terrorism is about, killing people! i dont know why im arguing with you, you are clearly ignorant! id like to end this here because you support terrorism and dont want to see the truth. Peace!
@RihamZKH93 RE: "all the children and the babies belong to organizations?"
No, that's not what he said. Obviously, in a combat situation, fighting a group like Hamas in a dense, heavily populated area like Gaza, there is a high likelihood that innocent civilians will be harmed and killed. That's true and it's unfortunate. Many innocent German babies who were not Nazis died when the British and Americans bombed Germany in WW2, that doesn't mean Germany was an innocent victim, ok?
@RihamZKH93 "another important point is, the numbers of victims on each side...dont be so ignorant"
No, what's important is the INTENT of who is doing the killing as well as who is killed. While it's true that more Arabs have been killed than Jews, and that many of the Arabs killed were unfortunately innocent civilians, it's also true that when Hamas/Al Aqsa Martyrs/Islamic Jihad do a suicide bombing they INTEND to kill the max. number of Israelis possible, whether civilians or not.
@RihamZKH93 RE:"i asked you a question first! Gaza massacre?"
When Israel fights back against rocket attacks (as they did in Operation Cast Lead in what you refer to as "Gaza Massacre"),about 1,300 Palestinian Arabs died in the fighting. 800-900 or so were Hamas terrorists, and yes, SADLY, maybe about 300-400 were civilians. War sucks and it's unfortunately true that innocent people die, esp. in heavily populated areas.This could have been avoided if Hamas didn't send rockets at us.
@RihamZKH93 RE: "the numbers of victims on each side"
The other thing about the number of victims on each side is just because "only" about 1,200 Israelis were killed in the past 10 years from Palestinian and Hezbolla terrorism (3/4 civilian) while nearly 5,000 Pal. Arabs were killed, do you think the side that suffers more casualties necessarily has justice on its side.
There are more Pal. Arab victims than Israelis, not because groups like Hamas try to avoid hurting innocent people, they've been doing their best many years with low-tech means to kill as many of us as possible. When we fight back, yes, our army and tech is better than theirs, so that means more of them will die than our people, we don't have to apologize for that. Civilian casualties are unfortunate, but that's what happens in war. We've kept their civilian death toll low.
The message in this video is misleading. Nobody said there's "no room" for Palestinians to return to Israel, but 1st most of them alive today were born abroad and have no right and quite frankly no need to "return" somewhere they never set foot in, and 2nd if they return en masse it wouldn't be a Jewish country anymore.
@RihamZKH93 i love that quote that goes something like ...palestine is a term the zionists use we have always been part of syria. and the palestine post? that was a jewish paper. they lived in palestine but that was a time before the birth of nationalism. they lived in palestine but they were arabs. or jews. there is no palestinian people.
@jondummitt there is no time in history where everything was peaceful, but after 48 the problems definitely grew larger, after the establishment of the illegal state of israel! the main point here is that zionists are terrorists, and you are one so of course you are going to deny it! and the jew that spoke lived in Palestine and his parents lived there, so he still knows more than you do!
@RihamZKH93 so if i ask a rural farmer who is undeucated in italy about the roman empire he is more likely to know than someone who studies the roman empire in school.
@jondummitt the fact that u study this in university doesn't make everything you say right! it is very obvious that u have lots of hatred towards arabs!
@jondummitt "1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine" it says Palestine or am i wrong? and to say there is no Palestinian people is just stupid! watch the video History of Palestine.
@RihamZKH93 He testified to the Peel Commission, "There is no such country [as Palestine].... Palestine is a term the Zionists invented.... Our country was for centuries part of Syria." -Awni Abd al-HadiOn his return to Palestine in 1924 Abd al-Hadi became one of the chief spokesmen of the Palestinian-Arab nationalist movement and was elected representative to the 5th and 6th Congress of the Arab Executive Committee for Jenin and to the 7th for Beisan.
@RihamZKH93 like i said palestine is appearently an invented term the zionists used. the palestine post was jewish. and many delegations from palestine were jews.
@jondummitt HAHAHAHAH, no just keep learning things from your biased prof.! when it comes to politics, documentaries and what you see in reality IS the truth! books written by people that support a certain side will only make you like them! these videos are what opened the eyes of many people and showed them the truth, not the lies spread by some medias, books!
@jondummitt i really hope you actually really study and understand both sides! because then some of your thoughts may change! and you didnt answer my question. where are you from?
@RihamZKH93 i lived there over the summer. and your saying that talking to a friend that lives there isnt good? thats first hand accounts of real life
you are going to say im biased, but the truth is im with the truth! i am absolutely against the killing of israeli civilians, although they stole my land! but the crimes israel has committed are wayyyy worse! after all, i say it again, they are terrorits
"Palestine" is a term that the British used, and it was the official name of the country between 1917 and 1948. Jews and Arabs alike used it, when speaking English. But Jewish official organizations used the name Palestine more in English,.e.g., "The Jewish Agency for Palestine"even though the Hebrew name was "haSokhnut ha Yehudit le EretzYisrael". The Arab political organization in British Palestine called itself "Arab Higher Committee", not "Palestinian Committee"
if there is anybody on earth with a recently adopted identity, its israelis and the proof is this video. the subject is not even debatable! another thing is the Arab jew in the video, of course im not happy about him being israeli but he said something..."you think there were problems before 48, all the problems are AFTER 1948" , which is absolutely true.
@jondummitt he is a jew that lived in Palestine, this makes whatever he says more accurate than all of ur b.s! if the jews were victims of massacres, they cant use it to justify uglier crimes now!
@RihamZKH93 so ill guess that he is about 60? making him negative 2? years old at the time of 48. so i guess he is more of an expert than me i mean im just a college student who fucuses all my study on the middle east and israel.
If you watch the clip again, I think the guy after he makes that Robert DeNiro face, he says he is "mixed--Arab-Jewish". (Meaning not that he is from an Arabic-speaking Mizrahi- or Sephardic-Jewish family, but that he is half-Arab half-Jewish.) Most people of that background tend to identify with their Arab families more. My father had an aunt also who married a Muslim and settled into an Arab family, all of her descendants are Arabs and Palestinians.
Most Jews from Arabic-speaking backgrounds don't identify as Arabs. My father's parents spoke Arabic, I have an Arabic surname but our family's primary identity was Jewish, not Arab, and my relatives fought for Israeli independence. You'll find that most so-called "Arab Jews" are very pro-Zionist and often criticize European Jews as too "soft" on Arabs.
"he said something..."you think there were problems before 48, all the problems are AFTER 1948" , which is absolutely true."
Not exactly--there was the massacres of Jews in Hebron, Tsefat, Jaffa and other places in 1929, riots in Jerusalem in 1929 where a lot of Jews and Arabs were both killed. There was violence on both sides in that period. (One of my father's uncles was stabbed--a so-called "Arab Jew" was stabbed (and survived) by an Arab rioter in 1929.)
I can tell you that my father's family felt at home in Arab culture, but they didn't exactly view themselves as Arabs either.It didn't even come to making a "choice" over which side to support--they were Jews, not Arabs. I grew up in the USA speaking Hebrew and English (my mother's family came from Hungary before they went to Israel, and later my parents went to the USA.) I wish I knew Arabic better, my dad sometimes spoke it with his parents, I only learned it later.
Also when you watch the part with the "Arab-Jewish" guy, it looks like he means that he is of mixed descent--maybe one Jewish parent and one Christian/Muslim Arab parent. He hesitates, makes a face, and he makes a gesture with his hand, and then it sounds like he says "mixed--Arab-Jewish".
If she believed in human rights she should have some self awareness of what her people are doing.Israel is a terrorist state that has been acquired through violence, negligence of human rights and Genocide.Let us say that the Holocaust did happen (numbers have been blatantly inflated over years and years) even though it is actually Illegal to even Research into the holocaust or deny its occurrence. However, lets say it did happen, does That give the right to go and commit mass murder yourselves?
What is highly ironic is that all of these Zionists that have moved there from the States say that there is no such thing as a Palestinian. If that's the case, then there REALLY is no such thing as an Israeli.
I'm from the USA, but my father was born here, and his mother comes from a family that has been living in Jerusalem and Galilee going back *at least* to the 1400s (that they can trace). There has never been a time in the past 2,000 years that Eretz Yisrael has not had a significant Jewish population.
Not every Israeli Jew can claim such a long unbroken presence in the country as my family, but this is where the Jewish People's roots are. We have no other country but Israel.
It is a lie from Satan that Jews are still God's chosen people and many pastors embrace and teach Satan's lie that Christians should support the State of Israel (Zionism). Also, another lie from Satan is the teaching that God blesses those who bless Israel and He curses those who curse them. (That has not been true for more than 1900 years.)
What's hilarious is that in some posts you attempt to trash Israel as being a "religious country" and say it needs to be secular (despite the fact that it already is), now you go cite your religious views as the basis for Israel's illegitimacy. So your problem really is that Jews don't accept your religion.
Jews claim to be God's chosen people, but they were His chosen people. Only the elect of the Jews (which is an extremely small minority) will be saved.
Jesus Christ, who is God incarnate, pronounced judgment on the Jews for rejecting Him:
The Jews generally rejected Jesus, the true Messiah, therefore Jesus cursed the fig tree, which represents Israel, saying, "May you never bear fruit again!" (Mat. 21:18).
When the Jewish chief priests and elders questioned Jesus' authority He said to them, "I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people [Gentiles] who will produce its fruit" (Mat. 21:43).
When Jesus told a parable to the Jewish chief priests, scribes, and elders (Lk. 20:19), they knew He was talking about them when He said that the vine-growers, to whom the owner had sent his son, killed his son. Then in the parable Jesus asked what will the owner of the vineyard do to those who killed his son, to which He said, "He will come and destroy these vine-growers [Jews] and will give the vineyard to others [Gentiles]."
After hearing this and knowing that Jesus was talking about them, those Jews "tried to lay hands on Him that very hour...and they watched Him, and sent spies who pretended to be righteous, in order that they might catch Him in some statement, so as to deliver Him up to the rule and the authority of the governor" (Lk. 20:9-20).
A loving, longsuffering and merciful God sent Jesus to "His own [the Jews], and His own received Him not" (John 1:11). The reason that the Jewish prophet John (the Baptizer) came baptizing with water was to reveal Jesus to Israel (John 1:31). And Jesus said that He was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel (Mat. 15:24).
Near the end of Jesus' earthly ministry Jesus said, 'O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
Look, your house is left to you desolate. (Mat. 23:37-38).
Paul quoted Isaiah in his epistle to the Christians in Rome, "Concerning Israel he [Isaiah] says, 'All day long I [God] have held out My hands to a disobedient and obstinate people [the Jews]'" (Rom. 10:21).
The Bible claims that the Jews are GOD's "Chosen People". Yet, neither Moses nor Jesus nor several other Prophets liked the Jews!
The old Jewish trick about Jews received the highest number of Prophets which then makes them GOD Almighty's "Chosen People" is nothing but a deception.
In fact, it is a bad thing for the Jews that GOD Almighty kept sending them Prophets who many of them ended up getting killed anyway by the Jews themselves according to the Saying of Jesus peace be upon him below. We need to know that neither Moses nor Jesus nor many of the Prophets in the Bible really liked Jews! Let us look at the following:
"And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, That Moses commanded the Levites(Jews), which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death? Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them.
For I know that after my death ye will become utterly corrupt, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands.
"How can you say, 'We [The Jews] are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
From Jesus:
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 23:37)"
The Hassidics, who are the experts of the “Torah,” denounced Israel for calling itself the Promised Land. They believe that only the Messiah can lead them to the Promised Land, and the Zionists are not messiahs but are false prophets.
@Antizionist4life The Hassidics, who are the experts of the “Torah,” denounced Israel for calling itself the Promised Land"
Hassidic Jews are not the sole religious Jews expert in Torah (in fact other ultra-Orthodox Jews historically viewed them as neglecting traditional emphasis on Torah study in favor of devotional, ecstatic prayer). That said, there is not one single Hassidic sect, there are many Hassidic sects,many of them support the State of Israel, some don't.
Is there any doubt why Hitler slaughtered the sub-human trash that claims to be god's chosen people. They are despicable, murderers, thieves, liars, and cheats.
Recall, in the Bible, that Jesus went to the temple overturning the tables of the moneylenders and denouncing them; they were the ones who went to the Romans to have Caesar deal with him. Jesus was Jewish; the moneylenders would be compared to today’s
It seems contradictory for any Christian to promote Zionism. They have taken Palestinian land from both Muslims and Christians. They forced the closing of one of the most holy Christian places of worship – it was the first time in 500 years its doors were closed.
@Antizionist4life "They forced the closing of one of the most holy Christian places of worship – it was the first time in 500 years its doors were closed."
You seem to be referring to the Church of the Nativity siege, but what you are leaving out is that Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Fatah fighters were occupying it. This occurred during the course of Operation Defensive Shield, when Israel fought terrorists from the aforementioned groups following dozens of terror attacks.
Zionism seeks to dominate all of Palestine and the Middle East, aided by billions of dollars of “aid” from the United States. This suits the United States, which seeks to dominate and control as much as it can. Both countries want piece – a piece of what everyone else has.
Zionists reject the idea of a secular (non-religious) state based on equality for all citizens. They maintain that Jews have special rights. Israeli law grants automatic citizenship to any Jew, regardless of where they were born, as long as they produce proof that their mother was a Jew.
@Antizionist4life RE: "Zionists reject the idea of a secular (non-religious) state based on equality for all citizens."
Israel is a secular state. The founders of Israel were overwhelmingly secular atheistic, and agnostic Jews--David Ben Gurion, Golda Meir, Moshe Sh Sharett. So far, with the exception of Menahem Begin, a traditional Jew, Israeli PMs have all been secular.
@Antizionist4life "Israeli law grants automatic citizenship to any Jew, regardless of where they were born, as long as they produce proof that their mother was a Jew."
No, Israel grants the right to pursue citizenship to any person who can prove they have one Jewish grandparent, even if the mother is not a Jew. Orthodox Jewish religious law determines Jewish status based on if their mother is Jew (or if they convert), but that is separate and distinct from Israeli civil law
From the Israeli Declaration of Independence: "THE STATE OF ISRAEL...will promote the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; will uphold the full
social and political equality of all its citizens, without distinction of race, creed or sex; will guarantee full freedom of conscience, worship, education and culture"
Every citizen of Israel, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Druze or whatever--has the same legal rights in Israel as every other citizen.
And yes, absolutely it is fair to grant people the opportunity to get Israeli citizenship based on Jewish ancestry. Other countries do the same for people who share ancestry of the majority ethnicity and trace their roots there, e.g., Germany, Ireland, Greece, Japan. Greece gives citizenship to ethnic Greeks, e.g., Pontic Greeks in the Russian Crimean region whose ancestors migrated there more than a 1,000 years ago can become citizens of modern-day Greece.
This SHOULD be deemed a WAR CRIME since they are ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING AND STEALING LAND THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM. Such a bunch of worthless shytbag idiots. No wonder Hitler hated them.
What really smacks it is the fact that many studies have concluded that the Palestinians and not these 'faux pas' Europeans who caught onto Judaism many centuries ago, are the original inhabitants in the sense that, the Palestinians are an admixture who speak Arabic but converted to Christianity and Islam later on. I would hate to justify trying to be Israeli !
Robotnik 1 week ago
"ya"?????
TheReturnOfLelouch 1 week ago
jews are thieves.. this is cananite land... hitler had the right idea.
sugars83 1 week ago
@sugars83 Shut the fuck you nazi bitch.
antiregayton1 1 week ago
@antiregayton1 fuck off you big nosed kike
sugars83 1 week ago
@sugars83 I'm not a Jew, fucktard.
antiregayton1 1 week ago
Israel is built on lies, we know it, they know it. Yesh Gvul!
alexiswolfe 1 week ago
too much talk here, all i gotta say is that whoever doesn't see the truth is blind, but in the end only the truth will win! it is very obvious who is wrong an who is right, its wrong to say both sides are wrong, because one side is definitely worse than the other, and that is israel, if you dont believe so ..then fine, but one day you will see!
RihamZKH93 3 weeks ago
not only he is bias but he violates privacy of civilians in the street by hiding his camera
luv5e1 4 weeks ago
who gives a shit where they are from. i am from missouri and i live close by, but i am going to latvia on a bicycle
jamesraymondsmith 4 weeks ago
Helen Thomas (God bless her!) said it best... "they should go back where they came from!"
haithemelzabri 4 weeks ago 6
@haithemelzabri and before her the europeans were saying the jews should go home(to palestine) cause they know thats where we are from
jondummitt 4 weeks ago
Riham, MR. "Palestinian"......my family dates as far back as 1600 in Israel. But my ancestry dates back thousands of years and I have a CONTRACT to show it. The bible.......do you have any purchase agreements???
shinethelove1 1 month ago
@shinethelove1 LOL wth? it only became israel in 1948. you are another racist on here, so arguing with you is pointless! and we will get Our Palestinian land back :)
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 eretz israel. the only continuous name for the land for more than 2000 years. and before that it was judea sameria ect
jondummitt 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 RE: "it only became israel in 1948."
It only became the modern "State of Israel" in 1948(in Hebrew "Medinat Yisrael"), but Jews have traditionally called this land Eretz Yisrael for thousands of years., and yes, there were Jewish states here called Yisrael (and Yehuda) in the past here too. There was never, ever, an Arab "dawlat Filasteen", though. I agree there should be in the future, but it's a NEW thing.
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93
The only reason you're calling yourself "Palestinian" is because the British and French divided up what's now known as Israel, Gaza, West Bank, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan between themselves in 1916 in the Sykes-Picot Agreement and some of your ancestors lived on one side of the line that fell to British control and the Brits decided to call that part "Palestine". Before that, all these areas were just "balad as shams", and under the Ottomans there was no "Palestine".
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 Here is something you should read - search Google for:
"Solomonia: The Jewish Nakba: Expulsions, Massacres and Forced Conversions by Ben-Dror Yemini"...
Odedisra 3 weeks ago
@Odedisra
Ben Dror Yemini (an Israeli from a Yemenite Jewish family) and Bat Ye'or (from an Egyptian-Jewish family) are good writers who put to rest the idiotic lie that Mizrahi Jews whose families came to Israel from Arab-dominated countries were "fellow Arabs" who would rather live under the rule of their "brother Arabs". I like Yemini's writing y also, because he also recognizes that the Pal. Arabs have a right to seek a state of their own in the areas where they dominate.
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@ShmorgelBorgel Yep! I see you've been reading "Kedma" (קדמה) too... :)
Indeed, a Two State Solution, with a free Palestinian state in Judea and Sumeria and Gaza (and maybe eve "Jordan" - which was originally a part of "Palestine" too), could be a great solution that would be good for both peoples.. However, I think that unfortunately the Arabs don't want a "good solution" - they want to annihilate the Jewish state, and therefore we'll have no choice but to eventually annihilate them..
Sad.. :(
Odedisra 3 weeks ago
@Odedisra : Don't put Palestine in inverted commas you vile eastern European squatter. You have INVENTED YOURSELVES in Palestine. Some goyim cannot be bought to lie for you and your dire revisionism. They should be newted if they have no morals or ethics. Geddit?
n0manland 3 weeks ago
@n0manland "Don't put Palestine in inverted commas you vile eastern European squatter."
Since I'm not a bigot, I think it's okay that many "Palestinians" have roots in Eastern European countries, such as Bosnia. They may continue to live here as (A) loyal citizens of the Jewish state of Israel or (B) in their own independent state to be established in part of the formerly Jordanian-occupied territory known as the "West Bank" and the formerly Egyptian-occupied area known as Gaza.
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@n0manland Yep! We have "invented ourselves" in this land, but it was more than 3,200 years ago - more than 1,800 years before the Arab-Muslims invaded it from the Arabian desert - and even before the first "Philistine" landed on it's shores.. Try Googling for: "Merneptah Stele", "The Kingdoms of Israel and Judah", "Bible" etc..
Anyway, the ""Palestine" that you and your associates are talking about is "Mandatory Palestine". It was invented in 1917-1920 and it included "Jordan" in the beginning.
Odedisra 3 weeks ago
@Odedisra
Davka lo, I don't read Kedma. I know Yemini's colums from Maariv and the nrg . co .il sit, and I have Bat Ye'or's books.
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@Odedisra
Sorry to be such a stickler for correcting your spelling in English:
There's a difference between "Sumeria" (שומר בעברית) and "Samaria" (שומרון)
לא יכולתי להבליג
;-)
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@ShmorgelBorgel אכן, בתור סטודנט לשעבר של ארכיאולוגיה ומקרא הייתי צריך להבחין בין "שומר" ל"שומרון", אלא מה:
ניסיתי אינסטיקטיבית לכתוב Someria
ואז המחשב סימן לי שזה טעות והציע לתקן ל:
Sumeria
ואני נחפזתי לזרום עם זה... :(
מה עם קומונת "פורשי מחסום" בתפוז - כבר כתבת אצלנו משהו?
Odedisra 3 weeks ago
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I'd like to see this clown walk around in GAZA doing vise versatile
shinethelove1 1 month ago
I'd like to see this clown walk around in GAZA doing vise versatile
shinethelove1 1 month ago
Come to California and ask people where there parents are from? I was born in Israel, my parents were born in israel, my parents parent parents were born in Israel....I also have a contract, it's called THE BIBLE
shinethelove1 1 month ago
@shinethelove1 3 generations only? i was born in Palestine, my parents were born in Palestine, my grandparents were born in Palestine, and it goes much much further!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93
My father was born in Palestine, and his parents were born in the Sanjak of Jerusalem in the Vilayet of Damascus, Ottoman Empire, and his grandparents going back several generations were born in Jerusalem Sanjak, Vilayet of Damascus, except they were born in Safat, Vilayet of Beirut, Ottoman Empire. But how come my father was born in Jerusalem "Palestine" and his parents were born in Jerusalem, Ottoman Empire?!
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93
My father, born in 1933, is descended from more than 3 generations (we count 18) in the country, but he was the only generation to be born in "Palestine" because "Palestine" was just the name the British called it from 1917-1948. His ancestors were born in Jerusalem and Galil towns like Safad, Tiberias, Akko, Shfaram and Kefar Yassif (today Shfaram and Kefar Yassif are inside Israeli territory but ZERO Jews live there, but there is still a Jewish cemetery in Kfar Yasif).
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
Love is.real. Hate Is.lam
shinethelove1 1 month ago
@shinethelove1 go be a racist and a hater somewhere else! shinethelove? lol ya ok
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
Watching this really upsets me. They have absolutely no connection to this country.. These people must have a really bad conscious. I can see it in their faces. They know what they are doing is wrong. That is why israelies are so afraid for themselves - because they know what they did was wrong and they know that the land belongs to the palestinians!!!
Baby1904mino 1 month ago 6
It is a funny video, I don't know what the producer wants to prove. Go in the US let's say NY and ask people where they, their parents and grandparents are from, in 80% you will get the same answer: Me or one of my anchestors are from Italy, Ireland, Poland, Hungary, Germany, France, Mexico, Argentina, Brasil and so on from all over the world. Only the Indians are the original natives, their lands were taken and they were put in reservations. I hate hypocrisy.
stupidseducator 1 month ago
@stupidseducator dont be stupid and compare two different things, these people that have roots from europe are not ONE religious or ethnic group that want to establish a new county for their own....... :s this video proves a lot! you and your zionist friends are the ONLY ones that refuse to see the truth!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
freedom for PALESTINE
GogooHAMS 1 month ago 4
@GogooHAMS yea freedom from the curropt fatah and hamas party! peace in the middle east!
jondummitt 1 month ago
No one will ever understand how they treat people unless you see it with your own 2 eyes. They think its funny to let children cry from irritation or the elderly stand around just for the hell of it. I can go on forever with my experience of going back to my own homeland.
meno2492 1 month ago
@meno2492 me too. and its the opposite that you say. arabs and jews were in the same streets and same markets. i went to a few arab towns..they were nice actually.
jondummitt 1 month ago
I'm a 19 year old Palestinian born and raised in Chicago and my parents, grandparents great grandparents and so on are from Palestine. I'm only allowed certain places of where my family is from and that is where the Jews are living now. These people have been brainwashed. The Idf makes it hard for me to enter even though I am a visitor.
meno2492 1 month ago
@meno2492 its complicated for all Palestinians, but inshallah it wont be like that when we get our land back =)
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 yea itll be just like all the islamist shit holes in the middle east.
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt you are a racist, arguing with you is pointless! what id like to say to you is that zionism is terrorism, and israel will not last for too long, we will get out land back soon :)
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 - When you fakestians will be ready to recognise Israel as the Jewish homeland than Israel will recognise the West Bank and Gaza streep as the homeland of the so called Palestinians. Israel is ready for two countries for the two people. As long as Hamas says that they will never recognise Israel as the home of the Jewish people, you can only dream about a souvereign country.
stupidseducator 1 month ago
@stupidseducator you too can keep dreaming that 'israel' will remain israel! :)we will get our land back from the terrorists! and just so you know, many negotiations took place for two state solution, israel DOES NOT want that! otherwise they wont be still kicking Palestinians out of their homes and increasing the settlements in the west back....when you stop this and your terrorist attacks, well go back to negotiating.
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
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@stupidseducator you too can keep dreaming that 'israel' will remain israel! :)we will get our land back from the terrorists! and just so you know, many negotiations took place for two state solution, israel DOES NOT want that! otherwise they wont be still kicking Palestinians out of their homes and increasing the settlements in the west back....when you stop this and your terrorist attacks, well go back to negotiating.
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 im not raciest. what you just said is raciest. zionism is the idea that jews should have thier own sovereign nation. that sounds pretty un terroristy
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt i am racist against terrorists, and zionists are terrorists! you are racist against a big religious group, dont say youre not racist :/
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 well im a zionist...and not a terrorist...so if all zionists are terrorists you dont make any logical sense. and ive never said anything raciest to you
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt you support terrorist, so you are one, of course youre going to deny it! and i am muslim and sooo clear that you hate muslims, youve said several things...
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 so most of the recognized terrorists organizations are islamic. your a muslim. so then through your logic you must be a terrorist.
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt first of all, they are extremist minorities. second of all, they are recognized as terrorits by the states and israel...although israel is as bad if not worse than these organizations! and ok terrorists are not a race, therefore im not a racist, you are!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 these organizations shoot rockets at civilians. blow up resturants/night clubs/schools. oh and the best they try to blow up hospitals. that makes them terrorists. israel kills people launching rockets. kills suicide bombers/people who plan to blow up civilians. if i had a gun and there was a terrorists infront of me right now i would kill him. with no hesitation
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt unbelievable, its either youre so ignorant or a big liar, or both! israel bombed hospitals and schools in Gaza, did you hear about that or no? look up the Gaza massacre! if i see an israeli soldier whos been part of the Gaza massacre i would kill him/her with no hesitation! you are defending terrorists, you disgust me
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 so you dont recognize that the Palestinians blow up public squares and restaurants via suicide bombings?
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt i didnt say anything about not recognizing suicide bombings plus i asked you a question first! Gaza massacre?
another important point is, the numbers of victims on each side...dont be so ignorant
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 first of most of the "civilians" in the massacre were martyrs for different terrror organizations. see the ilsmic jihad and al asqa martyrs brigade web sites.
and people die in a war. thats what happenes. hamas says they dont want peace. talk to hamas. tell them to stop. there will be peace
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt REALLY? all the children and the babies belong to organizations? lol shut up please! youre gonna keep defending terrorists, do it! but dont lie, dont ignore the truth, this is low
RihamZKH93 4 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 lol your very uneducated and dont know what your talking about. its really stupid. i actually know some children who have been killed by Palestinian terrorists. your very dumb and its a shame you have enough money to own a computer.
jondummitt 4 weeks ago
@jondummitt LOL, i will not be as impolite as you are, the last sentence is weird, enough money to own a computer? :/ ok. ummm if anyone's uneducated about this topic here then its you, compare the number of victims and then talk
RihamZKH93 4 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 compare the number of rockets. terrorism does not have to include deaths. 676 last year 12186 since 2002. 15 in the last 30 days
jondummitt 4 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 any other country would have gone to war over this a long time ago
jondummitt 4 weeks ago
@jondummitt so whats happening now is not war? :s and 'terrorism does not have to include death', this is what terrorism is about, killing people! i dont know why im arguing with you, you are clearly ignorant! id like to end this here because you support terrorism and dont want to see the truth. Peace!
RihamZKH93 4 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 how old are you wtf. im in a terrorism class and i can assure you that in almost no definitions of terrorism does it include death.
jondummitt 4 weeks ago
@jondummitt you should drop outta school LOL real talks
RihamZKH93 4 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 are you in college? or are you younger?
jondummitt 4 weeks ago
@jondummitt i am in college
RihamZKH93 4 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 your either a freshmen or your not taking any international affairs/poly sci classes
jondummitt 4 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 RE: "all the children and the babies belong to organizations?"
No, that's not what he said. Obviously, in a combat situation, fighting a group like Hamas in a dense, heavily populated area like Gaza, there is a high likelihood that innocent civilians will be harmed and killed. That's true and it's unfortunate. Many innocent German babies who were not Nazis died when the British and Americans bombed Germany in WW2, that doesn't mean Germany was an innocent victim, ok?
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 "another important point is, the numbers of victims on each side...dont be so ignorant"
No, what's important is the INTENT of who is doing the killing as well as who is killed. While it's true that more Arabs have been killed than Jews, and that many of the Arabs killed were unfortunately innocent civilians, it's also true that when Hamas/Al Aqsa Martyrs/Islamic Jihad do a suicide bombing they INTEND to kill the max. number of Israelis possible, whether civilians or not.
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
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@RihamZKH93 RE:"i asked you a question first! Gaza massacre?"
When Israel fights back against rocket attacks (as they did in Operation Cast Lead in what you refer to as "Gaza Massacre"),about 1,300 Palestinian Arabs died in the fighting. 800-900 or so were Hamas terrorists, and yes, SADLY, maybe about 300-400 were civilians. War sucks and it's unfortunately true that innocent people die, esp. in heavily populated areas.This could have been avoided if Hamas didn't send rockets at us.
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 RE: "the numbers of victims on each side"
The other thing about the number of victims on each side is just because "only" about 1,200 Israelis were killed in the past 10 years from Palestinian and Hezbolla terrorism (3/4 civilian) while nearly 5,000 Pal. Arabs were killed, do you think the side that suffers more casualties necessarily has justice on its side.
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
There are more Pal. Arab victims than Israelis, not because groups like Hamas try to avoid hurting innocent people, they've been doing their best many years with low-tech means to kill as many of us as possible. When we fight back, yes, our army and tech is better than theirs, so that means more of them will die than our people, we don't have to apologize for that. Civilian casualties are unfortunate, but that's what happens in war. We've kept their civilian death toll low.
ShmorgelBorgel 3 weeks ago
@RihamZKH93 terrorists arnt a race btw
jondummitt 1 month ago
The message in this video is misleading. Nobody said there's "no room" for Palestinians to return to Israel, but 1st most of them alive today were born abroad and have no right and quite frankly no need to "return" somewhere they never set foot in, and 2nd if they return en masse it wouldn't be a Jewish country anymore.
HeadofIbis 1 month ago 2
I'm Palestinian. My parents are from Askalan a.k.a. Ashkalon.
Freedom for Palestine.
djmakerz 1 month ago
I meant where u from?
freepali88 1 month ago
Hey jondummit what r u?
freepali88 1 month ago
@freepali88 what do you mean what am i? a human? a male?
jondummitt 1 month ago
he also says Palestine, and hes israeli........
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 i love that quote that goes something like ...palestine is a term the zionists use we have always been part of syria. and the palestine post? that was a jewish paper. they lived in palestine but that was a time before the birth of nationalism. they lived in palestine but they were arabs. or jews. there is no palestinian people.
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt there is no time in history where everything was peaceful, but after 48 the problems definitely grew larger, after the establishment of the illegal state of israel! the main point here is that zionists are terrorists, and you are one so of course you are going to deny it! and the jew that spoke lived in Palestine and his parents lived there, so he still knows more than you do!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 so if i ask a rural farmer who is undeucated in italy about the roman empire he is more likely to know than someone who studies the roman empire in school.
from what country are you from?
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt SURE why not, you are only a biased STUDENT!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 no ive heard all sides and read documents from the times. i understand both sides.
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt hell no you dont!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 and its not an illigal state. everything was done to make it legal. ask the UN
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt the fact that u study this in university doesn't make everything you say right! it is very obvious that u have lots of hatred towards arabs!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@jondummitt "1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine" it says Palestine or am i wrong? and to say there is no Palestinian people is just stupid! watch the video History of Palestine.
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 He testified to the Peel Commission, "There is no such country [as Palestine].... Palestine is a term the Zionists invented.... Our country was for centuries part of Syria." -Awni Abd al-HadiOn his return to Palestine in 1924 Abd al-Hadi became one of the chief spokesmen of the Palestinian-Arab nationalist movement and was elected representative to the 5th and 6th Congress of the Arab Executive Committee for Jenin and to the 7th for Beisan.
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt anybody that says that is alongside the zionists, i care about what I KNOW AND THINK and what other true palestinians think!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 like i said palestine is appearently an invented term the zionists used. the palestine post was jewish. and many delegations from palestine were jews.
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt watch the video i told you about...
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 sure. the professor of my history class isnt enough this youtube video is obviously better
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt it's a documentary, i say it IS much better actually!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 so i should drop out and just watch pbs and the history channel and itll be better than college.
where are you from
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt HAHAHAHAH, no just keep learning things from your biased prof.! when it comes to politics, documentaries and what you see in reality IS the truth! books written by people that support a certain side will only make you like them! these videos are what opened the eyes of many people and showed them the truth, not the lies spread by some medias, books!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 you dont think videos can be biased?
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt sure some can, but this one clearly isn't!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 everything is biased my friend
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt i really hope you actually really study and understand both sides! because then some of your thoughts may change! and you didnt answer my question. where are you from?
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 florida. ive seen both sides and im very sympathetic. but after seeing both sides im still on israelis side.
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt
that means u don't really know what is the Israeli army do with the ppl there
of course media never shows that
somimaxx 1 month ago
@somimaxx i know soo many idf soldiers. so i do know what happens
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt you can only know for real if you live there , not if you know the soldiers haha
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 i lived there over the summer. and your saying that talking to a friend that lives there isnt good? thats first hand accounts of real life
jondummitt 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 watch?v=RKQDvK0BKeE watch this. it has lost of pictures for you and kinda gives a good history of israel /palestine
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt and im from Palestine? yourself?
you are going to say im biased, but the truth is im with the truth! i am absolutely against the killing of israeli civilians, although they stole my land! but the crimes israel has committed are wayyyy worse! after all, i say it again, they are terrorits
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 where in palestine do you live? well better question is were you born in palestine
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt i was born in Ramallah! i currently live in Canada though!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@jondummitt hmmm 'apparently' i see
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@jondummitt
"Palestine" is a term that the British used, and it was the official name of the country between 1917 and 1948. Jews and Arabs alike used it, when speaking English. But Jewish official organizations used the name Palestine more in English,.e.g., "The Jewish Agency for Palestine"even though the Hebrew name was "haSokhnut ha Yehudit le EretzYisrael". The Arab political organization in British Palestine called itself "Arab Higher Committee", not "Palestinian Committee"
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
if there is anybody on earth with a recently adopted identity, its israelis and the proof is this video. the subject is not even debatable! another thing is the Arab jew in the video, of course im not happy about him being israeli but he said something..."you think there were problems before 48, all the problems are AFTER 1948" , which is absolutely true.
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 before 48 it was a utopia of freedom?
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt dont use sarcasm to lie to yourself, thats just stupid! thats what the guy in the video said and thats the truth!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 and that guy is the expert? why were there arab and jewish masacers and riots pre 48?
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt he is a jew that lived in Palestine, this makes whatever he says more accurate than all of ur b.s! if the jews were victims of massacres, they cant use it to justify uglier crimes now!
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 so ill guess that he is about 60? making him negative 2? years old at the time of 48. so i guess he is more of an expert than me i mean im just a college student who fucuses all my study on the middle east and israel.
jondummitt 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93 just for fun look up the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine or the 1929 riots in palestine. my math is foggy was 29 and 39 before 48?
jondummitt 1 month ago
@jondummitt
If you watch the clip again, I think the guy after he makes that Robert DeNiro face, he says he is "mixed--Arab-Jewish". (Meaning not that he is from an Arabic-speaking Mizrahi- or Sephardic-Jewish family, but that he is half-Arab half-Jewish.) Most people of that background tend to identify with their Arab families more. My father had an aunt also who married a Muslim and settled into an Arab family, all of her descendants are Arabs and Palestinians.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93
RE: "another thing is the Arab jew in the video,"
Most Jews from Arabic-speaking backgrounds don't identify as Arabs. My father's parents spoke Arabic, I have an Arabic surname but our family's primary identity was Jewish, not Arab, and my relatives fought for Israeli independence. You'll find that most so-called "Arab Jews" are very pro-Zionist and often criticize European Jews as too "soft" on Arabs.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93
"he said something..."you think there were problems before 48, all the problems are AFTER 1948" , which is absolutely true."
Not exactly--there was the massacres of Jews in Hebron, Tsefat, Jaffa and other places in 1929, riots in Jerusalem in 1929 where a lot of Jews and Arabs were both killed. There was violence on both sides in that period. (One of my father's uncles was stabbed--a so-called "Arab Jew" was stabbed (and survived) by an Arab rioter in 1929.)
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93
I can tell you that my father's family felt at home in Arab culture, but they didn't exactly view themselves as Arabs either.It didn't even come to making a "choice" over which side to support--they were Jews, not Arabs. I grew up in the USA speaking Hebrew and English (my mother's family came from Hungary before they went to Israel, and later my parents went to the USA.) I wish I knew Arabic better, my dad sometimes spoke it with his parents, I only learned it later.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
@RihamZKH93
Also when you watch the part with the "Arab-Jewish" guy, it looks like he means that he is of mixed descent--maybe one Jewish parent and one Christian/Muslim Arab parent. He hesitates, makes a face, and he makes a gesture with his hand, and then it sounds like he says "mixed--Arab-Jewish".
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
i want to leave a comment .. but i'm too lazy to respond to many replys .. but MEH .. FUCK ISRAEL >< !
alshares 1 month ago
If she believed in human rights she should have some self awareness of what her people are doing.Israel is a terrorist state that has been acquired through violence, negligence of human rights and Genocide.Let us say that the Holocaust did happen (numbers have been blatantly inflated over years and years) even though it is actually Illegal to even Research into the holocaust or deny its occurrence. However, lets say it did happen, does That give the right to go and commit mass murder yourselves?
AmarMeshal 1 month ago
اكثر من 40 لغة و اكثر من 40 جنسية تجمعوا و سموا بلدهم اسرائيل ، لو ترجعون احسن لأني بأنشئ اكبر مصنع كراسي حمام في تل أبيب وسط أحياء اليهود
awaid004 1 month ago
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RihamZKH93 1 month ago
What is highly ironic is that all of these Zionists that have moved there from the States say that there is no such thing as a Palestinian. If that's the case, then there REALLY is no such thing as an Israeli.
ibodhidogma 1 month ago
@ibodhidogma typical zionists, they always, lie, deceive and deny
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
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RihamZKH93 1 month ago
I'm from the USA, but my father was born here, and his mother comes from a family that has been living in Jerusalem and Galilee going back *at least* to the 1400s (that they can trace). There has never been a time in the past 2,000 years that Eretz Yisrael has not had a significant Jewish population.
Not every Israeli Jew can claim such a long unbroken presence in the country as my family, but this is where the Jewish People's roots are. We have no other country but Israel.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
THE JEWS ARE NO LONGER GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE
It is a lie from Satan that Jews are still God's chosen people and many pastors embrace and teach Satan's lie that Christians should support the State of Israel (Zionism). Also, another lie from Satan is the teaching that God blesses those who bless Israel and He curses those who curse them. (That has not been true for more than 1900 years.)
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
@Antizionist4life zionists are living in denial and sadly theyre enjoying it, what they dont know is that their end is going to be BAAAD
RihamZKH93 1 month ago
@Antizionist4life
What's hilarious is that in some posts you attempt to trash Israel as being a "religious country" and say it needs to be secular (despite the fact that it already is), now you go cite your religious views as the basis for Israel's illegitimacy. So your problem really is that Jews don't accept your religion.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
Jews claim to be God's chosen people, but they were His chosen people. Only the elect of the Jews (which is an extremely small minority) will be saved.
Jesus Christ, who is God incarnate, pronounced judgment on the Jews for rejecting Him:
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
The Jews generally rejected Jesus, the true Messiah, therefore Jesus cursed the fig tree, which represents Israel, saying, "May you never bear fruit again!" (Mat. 21:18).
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
When the Jewish chief priests and elders questioned Jesus' authority He said to them, "I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people [Gentiles] who will produce its fruit" (Mat. 21:43).
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
When Jesus told a parable to the Jewish chief priests, scribes, and elders (Lk. 20:19), they knew He was talking about them when He said that the vine-growers, to whom the owner had sent his son, killed his son. Then in the parable Jesus asked what will the owner of the vineyard do to those who killed his son, to which He said, "He will come and destroy these vine-growers [Jews] and will give the vineyard to others [Gentiles]."
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
After hearing this and knowing that Jesus was talking about them, those Jews "tried to lay hands on Him that very hour...and they watched Him, and sent spies who pretended to be righteous, in order that they might catch Him in some statement, so as to deliver Him up to the rule and the authority of the governor" (Lk. 20:9-20).
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
A loving, longsuffering and merciful God sent Jesus to "His own [the Jews], and His own received Him not" (John 1:11). The reason that the Jewish prophet John (the Baptizer) came baptizing with water was to reveal Jesus to Israel (John 1:31). And Jesus said that He was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel (Mat. 15:24).
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
Near the end of Jesus' earthly ministry Jesus said, 'O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
Look, your house is left to you desolate. (Mat. 23:37-38).
Paul quoted Isaiah in his epistle to the Christians in Rome, "Concerning Israel he [Isaiah] says, 'All day long I [God] have held out My hands to a disobedient and obstinate people [the Jews]'" (Rom. 10:21).
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
The Bible claims that the Jews are GOD's "Chosen People". Yet, neither Moses nor Jesus nor several other Prophets liked the Jews!
The old Jewish trick about Jews received the highest number of Prophets which then makes them GOD Almighty's "Chosen People" is nothing but a deception.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
In fact, it is a bad thing for the Jews that GOD Almighty kept sending them Prophets who many of them ended up getting killed anyway by the Jews themselves according to the Saying of Jesus peace be upon him below. We need to know that neither Moses nor Jesus nor many of the Prophets in the Bible really liked Jews! Let us look at the following:
From Moses:
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
"And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, That Moses commanded the Levites(Jews), which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death? Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
For I know that after my death ye will become utterly corrupt, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
From Jeremiah:
"How can you say, 'We [The Jews] are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
From Jesus:
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 23:37)"
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
The Hassidics, who are the experts of the “Torah,” denounced Israel for calling itself the Promised Land. They believe that only the Messiah can lead them to the Promised Land, and the Zionists are not messiahs but are false prophets.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
@Antizionist4life The Hassidics, who are the experts of the “Torah,” denounced Israel for calling itself the Promised Land"
Hassidic Jews are not the sole religious Jews expert in Torah (in fact other ultra-Orthodox Jews historically viewed them as neglecting traditional emphasis on Torah study in favor of devotional, ecstatic prayer). That said, there is not one single Hassidic sect, there are many Hassidic sects,many of them support the State of Israel, some don't.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
Is there any doubt why Hitler slaughtered the sub-human trash that claims to be god's chosen people. They are despicable, murderers, thieves, liars, and cheats.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
Recall, in the Bible, that Jesus went to the temple overturning the tables of the moneylenders and denouncing them; they were the ones who went to the Romans to have Caesar deal with him. Jesus was Jewish; the moneylenders would be compared to today’s
Zionists.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
It seems contradictory for any Christian to promote Zionism. They have taken Palestinian land from both Muslims and Christians. They forced the closing of one of the most holy Christian places of worship – it was the first time in 500 years its doors were closed.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
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@Antizionist4life "They forced the closing of one of the most holy Christian places of worship – it was the first time in 500 years its doors were closed."
You seem to be referring to the Church of the Nativity siege, but what you are leaving out is that Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Fatah fighters were occupying it. This occurred during the course of Operation Defensive Shield, when Israel fought terrorists from the aforementioned groups following dozens of terror attacks.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
Zionism seeks to dominate all of Palestine and the Middle East, aided by billions of dollars of “aid” from the United States. This suits the United States, which seeks to dominate and control as much as it can. Both countries want piece – a piece of what everyone else has.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
Zionists reject the idea of a secular (non-religious) state based on equality for all citizens. They maintain that Jews have special rights. Israeli law grants automatic citizenship to any Jew, regardless of where they were born, as long as they produce proof that their mother was a Jew.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago
@Antizionist4life RE: "Zionists reject the idea of a secular (non-religious) state based on equality for all citizens."
Israel is a secular state. The founders of Israel were overwhelmingly secular atheistic, and agnostic Jews--David Ben Gurion, Golda Meir, Moshe Sh Sharett. So far, with the exception of Menahem Begin, a traditional Jew, Israeli PMs have all been secular.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
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ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
@Antizionist4life "Israeli law grants automatic citizenship to any Jew, regardless of where they were born, as long as they produce proof that their mother was a Jew."
No, Israel grants the right to pursue citizenship to any person who can prove they have one Jewish grandparent, even if the mother is not a Jew. Orthodox Jewish religious law determines Jewish status based on if their mother is Jew (or if they convert), but that is separate and distinct from Israeli civil law
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
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From the Israeli Declaration of Independence: "THE STATE OF ISRAEL...will promote the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; will uphold the full
social and political equality of all its citizens, without distinction of race, creed or sex; will guarantee full freedom of conscience, worship, education and culture"
Every citizen of Israel, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Druze or whatever--has the same legal rights in Israel as every other citizen.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
@Antizionist4life
And yes, absolutely it is fair to grant people the opportunity to get Israeli citizenship based on Jewish ancestry. Other countries do the same for people who share ancestry of the majority ethnicity and trace their roots there, e.g., Germany, Ireland, Greece, Japan. Greece gives citizenship to ethnic Greeks, e.g., Pontic Greeks in the Russian Crimean region whose ancestors migrated there more than a 1,000 years ago can become citizens of modern-day Greece.
ShmorgelBorgel 1 month ago
This SHOULD be deemed a WAR CRIME since they are ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING AND STEALING LAND THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM. Such a bunch of worthless shytbag idiots. No wonder Hitler hated them.
Antizionist4life 1 month ago