Nearly all Vets and shelters put pets down rather than costly hoardering. Who is the real blame, breeders and people who dont adopt and spay or neuter. PETA spares many more by promoting, a veg saves 1000's from torture then death in factory farms in a lifetime.
I like the groups Vegan Outreach, MFA or just keep it about the animals. So I hope the critics adopt pets and are vegan then if they care about animals. Worry about your action, you dont have to agree with everything they do.
"Its not murder because their is a clear purpose in mind"
Ok, lemme get this straight, killing animals in sick, sadistic ways is fair for a purpose. Ok, then im guessing when Hitler had a purpose to kill jews, as fucking awful as it was, im guessing this ugly little cunt would agree with it, due to it being a purpose. Meat IS murder, no matter what, we dont need meat, thus taking life for a pleasure is the same as a pedophile wrecking a life for pleasure, this guy obviously doesnt know shit
A friend of mine who braught meat from a deer he hunted -with bow and arrow, making it even more fair for the animal- to a BBQ party; some PETA woman who was at the party attacked my friend with a butcher's knife soon after she starting bitching at him for hunting at all.
@GaiusBaltarrr Yes, because dears do nothing to hurt the world. Unlike people who for some reason find it fair to drive cars and kill animals, whilst destroying the very home we live on, even a fucking fly could realise thats stupid
@GaiusBaltarrr "some PETA woman" was probably a CCF agent provocateur hired to make PETA supporters/members look like domestic terrorists. Google Alex Jones, Violet Jones, Kelly Nichols, and PETA.
While PETA is a contemptible bunch, this person generalizes (all hunters apparently "respect" their prey; they never kill females and young ...) and uses too many "loaded" terms ("puppies and kittens" "baby bear" -- misleading anthropomorphisms which detract from his argument) when he has a good argument without them. Too bad.
thank you thank you! if people would send their money to rescue ranches they would actually help animals. I worked at a rescue ranch we barely got by taking care of all the animals but we managed and yet peta cant take care of any animals they obtain bull shit.
Be honest, you are starting with the belief that the current way of farming etc is fime then working backward to find the logic that supports the way you want to live. Its not really that you are very logical therefore you eat animals, and drink milk, its that you drink milk and eat meat so you look for reasons to justify your lifestyle. You would find it equally easy to use your intellect to opose eating meat and drinking milk if you chose. Its very obvious confirmation bias.
The argument was, that a bear who is beeing raised by human instead of his mother would suffer behavioral disorders. And that argument was NOT brought up by animal rights activists but by judges who got SUED by an animal rights activist, after the ZOO IN LEIPZIG KILLED a Sloth Bear cub.
This activist later just pointet that controversy out, when Knut was born!
He did this by sueing Berlin Zoo. Media turned the story around, telling, he was the one saying, Knut...
...should be killed. This wrong story went around the globe unbelievabely fast, and when the activist denied this story, nobody was interested in it, the story of people wanting to kill that sweet little bear was just too good.
I'm not a big fan of PETA but this story is the same kind of propaganda you guys are criticizing PETA for...
No, not everything in this video is accurate. The story, that people wanted Knut to die is wrong! It was a false report from a german bouleward magazine!
A zoo in Leipzig put a small sloth bear to death, which was abandoned by its mother. A animal rights activist then sued the zoo. The prosecution however stated, that killing this bear was not illegal because it would suffer behavional disorders from being raised by a human.
He then sued the zoo in Berlin, when knut was born, because it would be illegal, to let this bear be raised by a human, when somewhere else they kill a bear because of that. Media just turned that story around!!
Dear Animal Rights Hypocrites, please die a slow and painful death, and may your children die in a car fire cause by a vegan who is dizzy behind the wheel from lack of protein. You are the scum of society comparable to terrorists. You are the people who are slowly ruining the USA. You will never stop the hunt for the forests would be ruined you ignorant cocksuckers. To all the PETA people, George W Bush, Dickhead Cheyney, and Barrack Obamination, may you all rot in hell. God save America.
well rounded arguments I really like your research on the matters, Good Job.
the only downside is that PETA always uses the bad PR they get and spin it into "sounding" like they are not doing bad. For the most part, people see through this and call "BS" on them while others buy into PETA's falsehood.
Personally I think that PETA is retarded but so is this (I'm a Vegan). I don't think its all that wrong to euthanize these animals. people just think because they're killing puppies and kittens (i have or have had both) and other so called Pet animals that its horrible. If they were killing a cow and freezing it no one would care because people do it all the time. you get mad at PETA for killing cats and dogs yet no one is made about the meat industry kiling millions of farm animals.
@kbrandan2004 and again no one gets mad. the animals that PETA is killing have no use to the public other then aestetic appeal as pets. these animals could be left on the street to fend for themselves at which time they become a nuisance to society and go to the local pound anyway.
Well, the death count has gone up!!! Between 1998 & 2009 the nuber of animals killed by PeTA has risen to over 21,000!!! In 2008 alone, they found homes for only 7 animals out of 2,216!!!!
That is a death rate of about 95%!!! If the ASPCA can find homes for as many as 85% of it's animals, PeTA can too!!!
I posted a video about PeTA's slaughter of animals. Please check it out. Leave comments & ratings. I would really like to know what you all think.
You don't know what your talking about. peta is not a shelter for a start but they do offer various services to people who can't afford proper euthanasia. Adoptable animals are sent to the SPCA if they can take them.
The ASPCA doesn't just take in any old animal it is selective. 10 MILLION pets are abandoned in America every year , the majority are euthanised in tax payer funded shelters or worse sold to labs. Please do proper research, Peta is clearing up after the uncaring public.
There is no difference between killing animals because they are homeless, or killing animals because they taste good, or can benefit 'the greater good.' Condemning the killing of cats & dogs, yet defending the killing of animals for food and experiments, is every bit as hypocritical as PETA for condemning the killing of farmed animals & lab animals, yet killing homeless animals. Cats, dogs, & animals we exploit & kill for food & research are all sentient. Cats & dogs aren't any more special.
1:10, yes, but the conditions they are kept under are criminal. In small, dirty quarters, with no room to even move, or lay down to sleep. They are treated like mass production material. It's inhumane.
PETA has done questionable things, but that doesn't make industrial farming a good thing.
You got all dressed up and cleaned up to read something off in a video, and they're just more meat-biased bullshit.
Those facts and statements about ethics are ridiculous, biased, and clearly wrong, for anyone who's not coming in with a chip of steak on their shoulder.
We don't NEED to eat meat, and we don't NEED to hunt game. L2 Morality.
I want to plan a Whistle-Blower Barbecue against PETA next summer. Their main office is in Norfolk, Virginia, and I want to plan a barbecue outside of their main office. I want to serve hamburgers, hot dogs, etc. This Whistle-Blower Barbecue will be a big-old "Fuck You" to PETA. I'm willing to get the materials together to do this. If anybody wishes to join me, write back. ^___^
It is clear he is against animal rights, and has a different agenda than just being angry with PETA for killing cats and dogs. Yes, PETA is an atrocious organization. But only because they are welfarist, kill animals, use offensive ads in their campaigns, and are hypocritical. It is not because they are against eating animals or killing them in laboratory experiments. I am against PETA, yet I am a vegan who supports animal rights. Many people seem to think PETA = animal rights, which is untrue.
"PETA kills animals," unsilenced? You read like a Center for Consumer Freedom billboard!
Surely you don't oppose FREE and HUMANE euthanasia for animals who would otherwise die on the street from disease, have been fatally injured by a car or a hunter's snare. Or, would you rather animals be picked up by Animal Control and taken to shelters, where they will either be gassed to death in a metal box, or worse, sold to a Class B animal dealer, who then resells the animal to a research lab.
I'd rather PETA spend their time and money (they have millions of it) on reforming shelters to be no-kill, rather than condemning all no-kill shelters, and killing animals themselves. (Note they aren't even an actual shelter.) I'd rather them actually save animals, rather than "get naked" for them. I want sincere animal rights advocacy - not a multi-million dollar circus show.
"Euthanasia" is mercy killing, and is done in the animal's best interest (e.g. in cases of fatal injury or illness). However, the vast majority of the animals PETA murders are healthy. On their site they show dogs with painful injuries, as if they are doing all these animals a favor. It is a lie. The
Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services has online reports of the animals PETA has killed. It is not CCF bullshit, but a fact that PETA apologists just will not accept.
In 2008, the state of Virginia euthanized 70,330 shelter animals as a result of overpopulation.
Of the 10,000 animals who came through PETA's door in 2008, 2,124 were euthanized, brought in either by their guardians or a kind citizen because the animal was terminally ill, fatally wounded, or considered unadoptable by the Norfolk SPCA.
All healthy, adoptable animals brought to PETA are referred to local no-kill shelters, where the animal may or may not be take in due to overcrowding.
PETA humanely euthanizes animals. This is no secret, unsilenced. If PETA didn't want us to know that they euthanize animals, then surely Ms. Newkirk would not speak openly about it, but the fact is that she does. Helpinganimals,com is a PETA website dedicated to the plight of animal overpopulation and the sheltering crisis.
PETA's SNIP (Spay & Neuter Immediately, Please) Campaign has provided free-of-cost sterilization for 40,000 animals since its inception.
if any members of peta read this then i sincerly hope you get thrown into a cage of lions and get ripped to pieces. you cunts should be fed to your goddamn animals
There are worst things than what you think are bad. Why not go after real criminals. PETA euthanises most of the animals it gets because of the state these animals are in. I've seen pictures of these animals, some with cancer eating away half of their faces. Killing them in this state is more humane. I had to put my dog to sleep when she had cancer and it was eating away her skull. Don't be so judgemental!!!!!!!!!
Fuck man, it's delicious, you know? I love the blood dripping down my lips and the drops of lukewarm blood dripping off my chin from my fresh prey. Usually puppies and other small, cute, domestic animals. I fucking love their flesh ripping while they squirm and struggle, then they let out a yelp as I rip their skin apart. I love that shit, don't you?
PETA are a bunch of faggots who instead of using money to find homes for animals like they should, they make ads about how vegiterians supposedly have better sex. Everyone part of PETA should get shot IMO
I think its important to remember that a deer has a lot better chance against a hunter then a cow does in a slaughter house. In Iowa, their is such horrible deer over population that they need to be hunted more then they are to prevent over population. I do agree with apear, if it is purely for sport and the meat is not eaten, but that's also illegal, considered poaching. Hunting money from licenses saves a hell of a lot more wildlife then hunters kill.
You implied that hunting for sport was useful in our society. Now, don't get me wrong; I despise PETA. They would probably kill three humans to save one deer. Hunting for sport is just as horrible, if not more so, than euthanizing cats and dogs. You described this as "engaging in a contest of skill against an animal which has a high likelyhood of winning." I would bet my life savings that you have never been hunting in your life. If you encounter an animal chances are the bullet is faster.
...higher standard of living??? If the care given to these animals that are used for milk and wool and such is so great, why does the footage shown speak otherwise, G Stolyarovll ???
Go ahead do a search on YouTube, then get back to us.
Anti-Human? Yeah.....forget Osama Bin Laden, Mugabe, the U.S goverment and Al-Qaeda, it's PETA members who're raping women and killing people in the world, isn't it?
Totally irrational!! Because the people that you mention are bad PETA is good?! Never said PETA is doing what you said. They do hate humanity. You cannot elevate animals to human level. Can only equalize by lowering humans to animal level.
Calling PETA anti-human is grossly irrational!! The ppl I mentioned are anti-human coz of their heinous acts against fellow human beings. On what basis does PETA qualify as anti-human? Coz they make us understand that a pig/cow isn't all that different from a dog? Or that most animals feel pain like people? Coz they force us out of our comfort zone by making us recognize our own vanity towards other living beings?There's no question of elevating/lowering human beings by acknowledging facts.
Until there are better alternatives, I believe there should be animal testing for srictly medical purposes, but animals should not be tested on cosmetic or other products.
And can I just ask what does hunting have to do with euthanism?
Cows that are killed on farms don't have a chance to run away. They're shoved in cages and shackled and all other unacceptable stuff.
:S. + I'm guessing they kill them painfree IF they kill the animals at all. Instead of shoving chemicals into it's eyes and electrocuting it anally then scalding it alive. Your argument is flawed. So give up.
"Instead of shoving chemicals into it's eyes and electrocuting it anally then scalding it alive" yea, this is 2008, they dont do that anymore. unless you're talking about PETA, then yes PETA does do those just to make videos to brainwash little kids into thinking EVERYONE does that that eats meat.
Dear mr never actually been to a slaughter house. Let me tell you that this practice is not used not only that most of the petarded videos they show you are from another country other then USA . in America we use well have you seen no country for old men the cattle punch used there is used to knock out and kill the animals in an instant then they well you know where I'm going don't you. I find it amazing how many followers don't question there PETA well if you did you would not be a follwer.
Ill tell you if you can come with a equal alternative to animal testing for medical reasons ill jump on bored with that. im against animal testing for any other reason. But alot of medicine also contains animal parts or byproducts as well
but you asked about newkirk saying those things i showed you you said who did they give money to i showed you i just have to ask, because i can understand why you morally and ethically aposed animal testing. but i have to ask do you condone what newkirk has said about animals and peoples or the actions they taken and supported?
illustratedcore, you stated that PETA is opposed to seeing-eye dogs, pets, and insulin. I asked where it was you read such nonsense, and you submitted unassociated comments made by Ms. Newkirk to support your claim.
You cannot cite a single instance where Ms. Newkirk made any such statements.
and in the united states animal testing is as humane as anywhere in the world. dont go sayin that animal testing only produces toxic reports because that is fabricated bs
without animal testing we wouldnt know what parts of the brain function what. without animal testing we couldnt MANUFACTURE insulin. without animal testing we would not have vaccines!
Antivivisectionist do not dispute the fact that the sample of tissue from which insulin was PURIFIED came from a dog. We dispute that the dog was the vital part of the experiment, and that experiments on animals played the vital role in linking insulin production to the pancreas and the pancreas to diabetes.
Chemists and chemistry alone, not dogs, gave us insulin. Without the chemical process of PURIFICATION, there would be no insulin.
In the PAST, from the use of other species, much was revealed about basic biology and some of the things learned did lead to some improvement in medical science. But this is immaterial to the issue TODAY: human disease is being studied at the human cellular level, where, incidentally, it begins.
Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, Wed be against it.
-Ingrid Newkirk, WTF!!!!! that is horrible!!! Animal liberationists do not separate out the human animal, so there is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. Theyre all mammals. she has more Eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship, enjoyment at a distance. you want facts here are your facts
Fuck penn and teller this is about Ingrid newkirk and her insane organization that thinks they can bully the world into there utopia of a fuzzy world that doesnt exist. Peta is against ALL ADVANCES IN MEDICINE IF IT COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF ANIMALS!!!!! Let me give you just a few of her insane qoutes ok. "The smallest form of life, even an ant or a clam, is equal to a human being." Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation. yes that includes eyedogs
Someday we might reach a point where we can artificially get around animal testing but right now we cant and well never reach that without animal testing. am i against un necessary things like comedic testing. hell yes. but medical testing is extremly important. our life expectancy would be around 50 today without it
Total liberation means you cant have seeing eye dogs you cant have insulin or pets or elderly companions. Animal liberation by Ingrid Newkirks own words means these things. I dont want any animals to suffer but it its a choice between my uncle getting his insulin or my friend with cancer getting her medicine cancer over animals being tested for medical research than yes i am choosing people, it sucks but its the only sane choice to be made for now
Where, illustratedcore, did Ms. Newkirk state that PETA is opposed to seeing eye dogs? To insulin? Where have you seen PETA protesting the home of a thoughtful and caring animal guardian who keeps a companion animal?
You are parroting the juvenile antics of a Las Vegas side show. Penn & Teller are a comdey duo, not a source of credible information about PETA.
I find peta to be a dangerous group with followers who are both extremists and those who have extremely good intentions but dont quite understand those who are leading them.
illustratedcore, If one is a member of PETA, then one understands that animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment. That is total animal liberation.
Animal rightists are animal welfarists who mean it!
Actually, less than half of PETA members are even vegetarian, let alone, vegan. That means the overwhelming majority of PETA members eat animals and animal products, as well as wear them. PETA doesn't mind; as long as they get their donations, they are happy. And what better way to make a lot of donations, than to appeal to everyone, including the non-animal rights crowd!
I am very much for the protection of animals. It just pains me that with all the animal groups out there the loudest and extremist are the ones getting support. If we could pull all the rational people away from peta we coul actually make differences that could help both animals and people. and im not trying to sound like a jerk but the reason its hypocritical for peta to kill animals is because they picket human shelters for doing just that.
PETA does euthanize animals, and as such it makes no sense to a reasonably reasonable person that PETA would condemn another for doing so.
PETA protests the barbaric and cruel method of carbon monoxide poisoning in gas chambers widely used by shelters in VA and NC--a miserably slow death where animals struggle for 30 minutes choking and convulsing before they suffocate and die.
PETA does protest Primarily Primates, an improving primate sanctuary, as well as ALL no-kill shelters. They also support BSL, and wanted all of Michael Vick's pit-bulls to be slaughtered.
PETA became involved with Primarily Primates in 2005 when PETA was contacted by 2 of their employees, John Fischer and Terry Minchew, to report that animals were suffering immensely under the direction of drunkard Wally Swett and his sidekick, Stephen Tello, and all this -- right under the nose of Priscilla Feral.
Their sworn affidavits, PETA's video evidence, and the subsequent seizure of the
"sanctuary" by the state of Texas, all speak to the despicable conditions within that facility.
PETA investigated that sanctuary during a time when they were making changes at the facility and things weren't exactly running 100% at the time. Primarily Primates has since greatly improved the sanctuary, and is doing their best to provide the animals with the best quality of life they can have. Unlike PETA, who, if they'd had it their way, would have just killed every single animal there. Oh, I'm sorry - "put them to sleep."
I'm also more likely to trust an actual animal rights organization than PETA, who hate all no-kill shelters and slaughter around two thousand animals each year.
Yes, Primarily Primates has made significant improvements. That is what typically happens when PETA becomes involved in cases of animal neglect. Things change for the better for animals.
Side note: Rather than spend 500,000 dollars defending the drunkard animal hoarder, Wally Swett, who ran the hideous sanctuary, Pricsilla Feral should have spent her Friends Of Animals' member donations cleaning up that miserable "sanctuary."
Primarily Primates was hit hard financially with Sept. 11 and two hurricanes, and was already in the process of making improvements when PETA decided to investigate. Things will always look worse when under construction/clean-up. Instead of PETA offering to help with their millions of dollars, they chose to demonize an already struggling non-profit sanctuary.
So, while PETA may be taking credit for Primarily Primates' improvement, it had already been underway before they showed up. And as I recall, PETA didn't want improvements, but for the sanctuary to be shut down. Luckily, thanks to true animal advocates, this sanctuary is still running, and the animals can finally be at peace - with no thanks to PETA.
PETATV has the undercover video of Primarily Primates posted, which documented what the conditions were for the animals housed at Primarily Primates in '05 BEFORE PETA became involved, conditions so deplorable that the state of Texas seized ownership of the facility from Wally Swett and Ms. Feral upon receipt of the video by PETA. The truth speaks for itself.
PETA never sought to close down the facility, but merely force the "sanctuary" to humanely house and care for their animals.
PETA funded against Primarily Primates to forbid the housing of "dangerous, wild animals." And during their "investigation," they stirred up trouble by letting animals out of the cages so they could make it seem that the sanctuary was dangerous, and they threw produce in cages without permission, causing a fight among the primates. They also staged photographs, and drugged an animal to take his picture.
And all this, including press interviews, caused great stress in the animals there, resulting in the death of a spider monkey. Primarily Primates wasn't some run-down roadside zoo making money off these animals, and not bothering to take care of the animals. They are a non-profit group that was going through a rough time financially, and PETA had to make it worse.
Did PETA offer help, whether financially, or by volunteering? No. It was Friends of Animals who stepped in and brought the sanctuary back up on their feet. They actually had the animals' interests at heart; not some anti-sanctuary agenda they wanted to facilitate.
You expect PETA to give financial aid to Pricsilla Feral, who squandered away 500,000 dollars of Friends Of Animals members' donations defending their drunkard director, who ultimately was ousted in a most embarrassing legal case of animal abuse and fund mismanagment?
There were sinister happenings at this "sanctuary" under Swett's direction and Feral's nose. Rather than give them a dime, PETA sought to remove the animals to genuine sanctuaries, as was the case of the 7 OSU chimps.
Wow...it's obvious that you have multiple accounts since that is the only way someone like you to get that many thumbs ups on this kind of video...right chris? ;)
So the images of Betty the chimp, who lay dying in the dirt in her own excrement for days after having given birth to a stillborn baby (sanctuaries breed animals?) and ravaged by fire ants, who had never known a merciful day at Primarily Primates, who had to be shot in the head because there was no vet on sight to humanely euthanize her, was all staged by PETA?
Affadavit of Lee Theisen-Watt, Wildlife Rehabilitator
I suppose PETA brought in the infestation of rats, mice and roaches, too.
26,301 abandoned shelter animals die every day in 4,000 U.S. tax-payer funded shelters for want of a good home; 3, 424 are pit bull dogs.
PETA does not support banning the breed of Pit Bull dog. PETA does, however, support legislation that BANS THE BREEDING OF MORE PIT BULLS, just as they support any spay/neuter legislation as the most effective way to combat the animal overpopulation crisis.
We can only stop killing animals if we stop breeding more of them.
PETA says on their website that they also support the banning of pit-pulls. While they say that they "also support pit bull bans, as long as they include a grandfather clause allowing all living dogs who are already in good homes and well cared for to live the remainder of their lives safely and peacefully," this implies that any unadopted pit-bulls, such as pit-bulls waiting in shelters to find a home, do not deserve to be protected. Also, PETA wanted Vick's dogs KILLED, not rehabilitated.
3,424 pit bull dogs die EVERY day in shelters, 1,250,000 abandoned pit bulls are euthanized EVERY year all for want of a forever home. In many states they are dying in gas chambers, suffocated to death for 30 minutes by toxic gas. Pit Bull rescues and no-kill shelters are overwhelmed with pit bull dogs and are forced to turn many away.
And therein lies PETA's reasoning to support legislation that BANS THE BREEDING OF MORE PIT BULLS.
The Victory dogs are a unique case -- a first ever full scale rescue, assessment, and rehabilitation of former fighting dogs. If vick had not paid 975,000 for their care, they would be dead.
Best Friends Animal Sanctuary, the no-kill shelter that rescued 22 of the Victory Dogs, has an annul budget (equal to PETA's) of 30 million dollars, and can HUMANELY house and care for 1,500 animals.
Now, what shall we do about the other 24, 801 who will die today? Tomorrow? And EVERY day thereafter?
We reform the shelters, not participate in killing the animals there. There is no reason why PETA, with the number of donors and resources, cannot come up with a campaign to reform shelters to become no-kill. Instead, they are focused on calling people fat whales, and dressing women up in lettuce bikinis. I highly suggest you take a break from PETA's propaganda, and read up on Gary Francione and Nathan Winograd. Gary knows how animal law works, & Nathan has successfully created no-kill counties.
On the contrary, unsilenced, after having been contacted by a police officer about the horrendous conditions at the Bertie County Animal Shelter in North Carolina, PETA spent 240,000 dollars renovating the facility, which included training of the county's only animal control officer, paying cleaners to maintain the shelter, and hiring a licensed vet to provide humane euthanasia, where the shelter once had a gas chamber.
WOW! One whole facility! And in any case, training people to perform "humane euthanasia" on healthy animals is NOT my idea of reform. I am talking about NO-KILL. It should be an easy concept for any honest animal rights activist to understand. You want humane killing, I want no killing. You want bigger cages, I want empty cages. You want animal welfare, I want animal rights. Not surprising that we disagree.
PETA senses your frustration, unsilenced. America can, indeed, become a no-kill nation.
It is outrageous that the U.S. Government spends 2 billion of its citizens' tax dollars every year euthanizing 9.6 million abandoned animals that should otherwise be humanely housed, cared for and rehomed.
The laws must change. PETA works diligently to get laws passed, such as mandatory spay and neuter ordinances.
I think the spay/neuter work PETA does is the only really good thing they do. I wish they would also stop condemning all no-kill shelters, and work more on reforming shelters to become no-kill. Yes, some no-kill shelters are bad, but that does not mean that no-kill shelters are inherently a bad idea. One would think PETA would be all for that idea. Yet they continue to criticize it. They are so focused on alleviating animal suffering, they are ignoring that animals also value life itself.
@CDLver How about this? For every animal spayed/neutered we do the same to a PETA member. I mean, we're getting over populated too, right? We need to be concerned about our own safety, too. I mean since we're no better than animals, right? Just saying that with PETA's logic that's the only conclusion possible. Plus, on the plus side, we get to help the gene pool out just a litte bit. I find it equitable and will vote yes on that proposition.
@KellandGreystone, meat causes impotence when eaten in large quantity and often. In your case, however, this wouldn't be such a bad thing. So you go ahead and do your part to help end the human overpopulation crisis and just Supersize that big mac meal.
Lets hope the poster of this video learnt something from CDLvers information below. It's very sad when people make videos without doing some research of the true facts first.
Yes, I *do* expect PETA to care for the animals who do not get adopted. Killing them when they do not pose a health risk or are not being used to further human well-being is evil and immoral; I oppose all kill shelters, but particularly those who hypocritically prate about "ethical treatment" of animals. Death is the most unethical consequence one can inflict on an innocent creature.
PETA, gstolyarovll, does not have the luxury of focusing its resources on a single campaign, or even a couple of major efforts.
PETA's work covers many aspects —from life-saving work at animal shelters, to promoting spaying and neutering with their SNIP program (providing free/low cost sterilization to 45,000 animals), to conducting pin-pointed undercover investigations, to taking on corporations or the government in the courts when they fail to protect animals.
If an animal can be saved, PETA will save him. If a rescued animal is healthy and sociable, which is to say, adoptable by society's standards, then he is taken to the no-kill Norfolk SPCA, where the animal may or may not be taken in because of overcrowding.
The Norfolk SPCA took in only 765 of the 45,450 homeless cats and dogs in the area. Do you know of 44,685 persons to adopt the animals that the shelter turned away?
PETA kills 97%+ of the animals they get their hands on. They also make $30 million annually in donations. They certainly have the means to save more animals. They just spend the money on buying stock from Outback Steakhouse, condemning no-kill shelters, & creating sexist, racist, & sizeist ads/demonstrations. Oh - and awarding animal killer Temple Grandin for designing an execution machine for cattle. As if it was so hard to understand PETA is not for animal rights (but animal welfare at most).
Your criticism of Grandin is duly noted. Nothing in her recommendations suggest "humane" handling or slaughter to me, but that's because I'm a vegan.
However, Grandin's techniques for moving animals through the chutes go a long way to reduce the animals' stress and fear, thus making them less likely to stall in the chute, thus reducing the likelihood that some frustrated hump will beat, prod, or electrocute a cow frozen with terror.
I don't care what you say, awarding a sociopath for designing a slaughter chute is disgusting, and is definitely not animal rights. Anyone who thinks otherwise is welfarist and speciesist.
I agree with you, unsilenced, animal slaughterhouses are disgusting; that is why we are vegans.
Will I criticize or ever undermine the efforts and selflessness of others in the animal rights movement who, though they are committed vegans, still recognize that animals are suffering right now and need relief right now? No, I will not.
Every year, 850 million chickens go to the scalding tank alive, and you want to wave your finger in PETA's face for daring to stop this hideousness?
PETA is only sending the message that animals are our to use when they focus on treatment rather than use. And when any organization praises animal exploitation - even the "humane" kind, it sends the message to the public that it is okay to devalue sentient beings, and makes consumers feel more comfortable about supporting animal exploitation. When PETA dropped their KFC Canada campaign, more people flocked there to buy chicken flesh because it was PETA-approved.
Surely, gstolyarovll, you cannot expect PETA to care for the 100,000 shelter animals who are gassed to death every year in North Carolina and the 94,870 who die in the miserably cruel Virginia shelters.
Best Friends, the no-kill shelter that rescued 22 of Vick's pit bull dogs, has an annul budget (equal to PETA's) of 30 million dollars, and can HUMANELY house 1,500 animals.
Now, what shall we do with the other 27,473 who will die today? Tomorrow? Every day for the next 365 days?
It is high arrogance to criticise PETA for providing HUMANE euthanasia to animals who would otherwise die on the streets from illness or starvation, or be picked up by an animal control system that gasses animals to death as a means of controlling overpopulation.
A rational response to the animal overpopulation crisis, which, incidentally, PETA employs, is to provide free/low cost sterilization of animals through their SNIP program. Since its inception, 45,000 animals have been sterilized.
They gave about 100,000 just to Rod Coronado of A.L.F. gave 1,500 to E.L.F in 2001 and while thats not alot of money there a terrorist group so i dont think thats the point. as well as $7,500 to Fran Trutt who was convicted of attempted murder of Leon Hirsch. Ingrid Newkirk has said and I AM paraphrasing as i dont have the quote in front of me-if no one sees you throw a brick threw a window than do it. Theres alot more Financial ties to people like this
If PETA sought to conceal their financial support to Mr. Coronado's legal defense, as well as that of Fran Trutt, surely PETA would've hidden their contributions in a document that was not PUBLIC RECORD.
First amendment rights do not apply to animal rights activist such as Mr. Coronado when taking on the vivisection industry, one wherein Animal Welfare Act protections do not apply, and the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act defines as terrorism causing any business classified as an "animal enterprise" to suffer a profit loss.
At his own peril, Rod liberated animals from the worst forms of hell that warped human minds can devise. PETA graciously extended financial support to his legal defense.
Actually he fire bombed a college, also all of petas finances are public knowledge becauses they claim to be non profit. so if they did hide the US would shut them down. Animal liberation also means no animal testing would would be great if it didnt mean that we would completely lose the backbone of modern medicine as a result. Im speaking facts. And Terrorism is not about buisness loss its about instilling fear and terror to get ones demands. Which is what peta themself does thru propaganda
i think peta is cool when they think best for the enviroment
and save endangered animals
but killing overpopulated pests who dont mind being killed dont matter
even other animals dont give a fuck about animal cruely
they just kill each other
leotheloser 1 year ago
sounds like static to me, but it would probably have made me mad anyway!
NadimahElizabeth 1 year ago
@NadimahElizabeth Well, thank you for pointing out the static. I have posted a version with the audio restored here: watch?v=dDJ4d97a_NY
Now you have the chance to get mad. :-)
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Nearly all Vets and shelters put pets down rather than costly hoardering. Who is the real blame, breeders and people who dont adopt and spay or neuter. PETA spares many more by promoting, a veg saves 1000's from torture then death in factory farms in a lifetime.
I like the groups Vegan Outreach, MFA or just keep it about the animals. So I hope the critics adopt pets and are vegan then if they care about animals. Worry about your action, you dont have to agree with everything they do.
VeganMotorcyclePilot 1 year ago
"Its not murder because their is a clear purpose in mind"
Ok, lemme get this straight, killing animals in sick, sadistic ways is fair for a purpose. Ok, then im guessing when Hitler had a purpose to kill jews, as fucking awful as it was, im guessing this ugly little cunt would agree with it, due to it being a purpose. Meat IS murder, no matter what, we dont need meat, thus taking life for a pleasure is the same as a pedophile wrecking a life for pleasure, this guy obviously doesnt know shit
BiddaBiddaCherryPie 1 year ago
@BiddaBiddaCherryPie I don't even know how to RESPOND to this.
Yuri92001 1 year ago
PETA people are fucking phycho.
A friend of mine who braught meat from a deer he hunted -with bow and arrow, making it even more fair for the animal- to a BBQ party; some PETA woman who was at the party attacked my friend with a butcher's knife soon after she starting bitching at him for hunting at all.
GaiusBaltarrr 1 year ago
@GaiusBaltarrr Yes, because dears do nothing to hurt the world. Unlike people who for some reason find it fair to drive cars and kill animals, whilst destroying the very home we live on, even a fucking fly could realise thats stupid
BiddaBiddaCherryPie 1 year ago
@GaiusBaltarrr why did she even come to the BBQ then?
CrunchyBlck73 1 year ago
@GaiusBaltarrr "some PETA woman" was probably a CCF agent provocateur hired to make PETA supporters/members look like domestic terrorists. Google Alex Jones, Violet Jones, Kelly Nichols, and PETA.
xxcelinux 10 months ago 3
While PETA is a contemptible bunch, this person generalizes (all hunters apparently "respect" their prey; they never kill females and young ...) and uses too many "loaded" terms ("puppies and kittens" "baby bear" -- misleading anthropomorphisms which detract from his argument) when he has a good argument without them. Too bad.
DottieSnee 1 year ago
@DottieSnee
I agree. Also, far from all meat, egg or dairy farms treat their animals nicely. This should have been mentioned in the video as well.
smaakjeks 1 year ago
thank you thank you! if people would send their money to rescue ranches they would actually help animals. I worked at a rescue ranch we barely got by taking care of all the animals but we managed and yet peta cant take care of any animals they obtain bull shit.
FernandoTorrera 1 year ago
Be honest, you are starting with the belief that the current way of farming etc is fime then working backward to find the logic that supports the way you want to live. Its not really that you are very logical therefore you eat animals, and drink milk, its that you drink milk and eat meat so you look for reasons to justify your lifestyle. You would find it equally easy to use your intellect to opose eating meat and drinking milk if you chose. Its very obvious confirmation bias.
dorianleakey 1 year ago
Peta should go to hell.
they are sick bastards.
DRABAHAMUTGON5 1 year ago
GREAT JOB Thanks. PETA is really EVIL!
waitandbleed17 1 year ago
Who cares about the animals? I am selfish and am concerned about the humans consuming meat and acquiring varied degenerative diseases.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
hey do u think u could send me a link to a vid of Knot (the polar bear u were talking about) i wanna see him my gf LOVES polar bears
Gunut1911 1 year ago
The story about Knut is WRONG.
The argument was, that a bear who is beeing raised by human instead of his mother would suffer behavioral disorders. And that argument was NOT brought up by animal rights activists but by judges who got SUED by an animal rights activist, after the ZOO IN LEIPZIG KILLED a Sloth Bear cub.
This activist later just pointet that controversy out, when Knut was born!
He did this by sueing Berlin Zoo. Media turned the story around, telling, he was the one saying, Knut...
MirWurscht0 1 year ago
...should be killed. This wrong story went around the globe unbelievabely fast, and when the activist denied this story, nobody was interested in it, the story of people wanting to kill that sweet little bear was just too good.
I'm not a big fan of PETA but this story is the same kind of propaganda you guys are criticizing PETA for...
MirWurscht0 1 year ago
wow a smart guy in a suit .... i cant believe my eyes.......u go!
noxnox11 1 year ago 5
Thank you!
GStolyarovII 1 year ago
I don't understand how this video does not have a 5 star rating. Everything is accurate. I guess people are more delusional than I had imagined...
TheUTubeRebel 2 years ago
what bullshit you can't suvive without killing something!
GWR4079 2 years ago
PETA'S kill rates for 2008 are in
7 pets adopted out
2,124 trusting homeless pets brutally executed
That's a 95.8% kill rate. Come on PETA you're slipping. Your kill rate in 2006 was 97.4%
PETA
People Executing Trusting Animals
Cheakypuppy 2 years ago 2
what about people eating tasty animals.
Darkstorms15 2 years ago
@Darkstorms15 well whe shall continue our peacefull way of life
noxnox11 1 year ago
Dude, you're a fucking tool.
MilesOfPilesoPoo 2 years ago
@MilesOfPilesoPoo
No, you are the fucking tool. Everything in this video is accurate. PETA is a fucking joke.
TheUTubeRebel 2 years ago
@TheUTubeRebel
No, not everything in this video is accurate. The story, that people wanted Knut to die is wrong! It was a false report from a german bouleward magazine!
MirWurscht0 1 year ago
A zoo in Leipzig put a small sloth bear to death, which was abandoned by its mother. A animal rights activist then sued the zoo. The prosecution however stated, that killing this bear was not illegal because it would suffer behavional disorders from being raised by a human.
He then sued the zoo in Berlin, when knut was born, because it would be illegal, to let this bear be raised by a human, when somewhere else they kill a bear because of that. Media just turned that story around!!
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Dear Animal Rights Hypocrites, please die a slow and painful death, and may your children die in a car fire cause by a vegan who is dizzy behind the wheel from lack of protein. You are the scum of society comparable to terrorists. You are the people who are slowly ruining the USA. You will never stop the hunt for the forests would be ruined you ignorant cocksuckers. To all the PETA people, George W Bush, Dickhead Cheyney, and Barrack Obamination, may you all rot in hell. God save America.
jmassey1981 2 years ago
if you believe in God, and you read the bible, then you must consider what was written in proverbs 12:10
tohidefromourways 2 years ago
God hates you
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jeffpeacefisher 2 years ago
i agree with GStoylarovl
andyblueyezz 2 years ago
well rounded arguments I really like your research on the matters, Good Job.
the only downside is that PETA always uses the bad PR they get and spin it into "sounding" like they are not doing bad. For the most part, people see through this and call "BS" on them while others buy into PETA's falsehood.
CuzIamAzn 2 years ago
He did not research ANYTHING! he is clearly reading from a website, this tool put a fucking suit on and regurgitated another persons views!
not original, no effort, and a bore to listen to.
paulcwy 2 years ago
@paulcwy dipshit search these thing 4 ur self....
noxnox11 1 year ago
It's called a script.
TripleBarrelRoll 1 year ago
Personally I think that PETA is retarded but so is this (I'm a Vegan). I don't think its all that wrong to euthanize these animals. people just think because they're killing puppies and kittens (i have or have had both) and other so called Pet animals that its horrible. If they were killing a cow and freezing it no one would care because people do it all the time. you get mad at PETA for killing cats and dogs yet no one is made about the meat industry kiling millions of farm animals.
kbrandan2004 2 years ago
@kbrandan2004 and again no one gets mad. the animals that PETA is killing have no use to the public other then aestetic appeal as pets. these animals could be left on the street to fend for themselves at which time they become a nuisance to society and go to the local pound anyway.
kbrandan2004 2 years ago
pets to some are just like a family member. let me ask this, do you believe that there should be a birth rate population control?
tohidefromourways 2 years ago
yup and I also believe that pets are just like family members as I still own and treat all my pets like my family.
kbrandan2004 2 years ago
Thank you for the informational talk. I will pass this one on.
TheWater911 2 years ago
Damn, well said!
TwosComplement 2 years ago
Well, the death count has gone up!!! Between 1998 & 2009 the nuber of animals killed by PeTA has risen to over 21,000!!! In 2008 alone, they found homes for only 7 animals out of 2,216!!!!
That is a death rate of about 95%!!! If the ASPCA can find homes for as many as 85% of it's animals, PeTA can too!!!
I posted a video about PeTA's slaughter of animals. Please check it out. Leave comments & ratings. I would really like to know what you all think.
mysticdragon75 2 years ago
You don't know what your talking about. peta is not a shelter for a start but they do offer various services to people who can't afford proper euthanasia. Adoptable animals are sent to the SPCA if they can take them.
The ASPCA doesn't just take in any old animal it is selective. 10 MILLION pets are abandoned in America every year , the majority are euthanised in tax payer funded shelters or worse sold to labs. Please do proper research, Peta is clearing up after the uncaring public.
JUMPTHEGUNZZX 2 years ago 3
I'm against PETA's ridiculous extremism.
gir908922 2 years ago 11
There is no difference between killing animals because they are homeless, or killing animals because they taste good, or can benefit 'the greater good.' Condemning the killing of cats & dogs, yet defending the killing of animals for food and experiments, is every bit as hypocritical as PETA for condemning the killing of farmed animals & lab animals, yet killing homeless animals. Cats, dogs, & animals we exploit & kill for food & research are all sentient. Cats & dogs aren't any more special.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
1:10, yes, but the conditions they are kept under are criminal. In small, dirty quarters, with no room to even move, or lay down to sleep. They are treated like mass production material. It's inhumane.
You're a good reader.
; )
GetHealthyB4TooLate 2 years ago
you look like tony stark. :P
Not a bad thing
tohidefromourways 2 years ago
PETA has done questionable things, but that doesn't make industrial farming a good thing.
You got all dressed up and cleaned up to read something off in a video, and they're just more meat-biased bullshit.
Those facts and statements about ethics are ridiculous, biased, and clearly wrong, for anyone who's not coming in with a chip of steak on their shoulder.
We don't NEED to eat meat, and we don't NEED to hunt game. L2 Morality.
sanctusvox 2 years ago 2
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I want to plan a Whistle-Blower Barbecue against PETA next summer. Their main office is in Norfolk, Virginia, and I want to plan a barbecue outside of their main office. I want to serve hamburgers, hot dogs, etc. This Whistle-Blower Barbecue will be a big-old "Fuck You" to PETA. I'm willing to get the materials together to do this. If anybody wishes to join me, write back. ^___^
gir908922 2 years ago
Dude I'm down with you if you still want to do it...let me know on my page if you're serious!
PeoplesChampion9050 2 years ago
Dude I'm down with you if you still want to do the "fuck you" to PeTA BBQ....Let me know if you're serious about this!
PeoplesChampion9050 2 years ago
are you against animal rights, or are you just that PETA's euthanization rates were ridiculous?
tohidefromourways 2 years ago
It is clear he is against animal rights, and has a different agenda than just being angry with PETA for killing cats and dogs. Yes, PETA is an atrocious organization. But only because they are welfarist, kill animals, use offensive ads in their campaigns, and are hypocritical. It is not because they are against eating animals or killing them in laboratory experiments. I am against PETA, yet I am a vegan who supports animal rights. Many people seem to think PETA = animal rights, which is untrue.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
(Or she is against animal rights; I thought you were referring to the video creator.)
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
"PETA kills animals," unsilenced? You read like a Center for Consumer Freedom billboard!
Surely you don't oppose FREE and HUMANE euthanasia for animals who would otherwise die on the street from disease, have been fatally injured by a car or a hunter's snare. Or, would you rather animals be picked up by Animal Control and taken to shelters, where they will either be gassed to death in a metal box, or worse, sold to a Class B animal dealer, who then resells the animal to a research lab.
CDLver 2 years ago
I'd rather PETA spend their time and money (they have millions of it) on reforming shelters to be no-kill, rather than condemning all no-kill shelters, and killing animals themselves. (Note they aren't even an actual shelter.) I'd rather them actually save animals, rather than "get naked" for them. I want sincere animal rights advocacy - not a multi-million dollar circus show.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
"Euthanasia" is mercy killing, and is done in the animal's best interest (e.g. in cases of fatal injury or illness). However, the vast majority of the animals PETA murders are healthy. On their site they show dogs with painful injuries, as if they are doing all these animals a favor. It is a lie. The
Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services has online reports of the animals PETA has killed. It is not CCF bullshit, but a fact that PETA apologists just will not accept.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
In 2008, the state of Virginia euthanized 70,330 shelter animals as a result of overpopulation.
Of the 10,000 animals who came through PETA's door in 2008, 2,124 were euthanized, brought in either by their guardians or a kind citizen because the animal was terminally ill, fatally wounded, or considered unadoptable by the Norfolk SPCA.
All healthy, adoptable animals brought to PETA are referred to local no-kill shelters, where the animal may or may not be take in due to overcrowding.
CDLver 2 years ago 4
PETA humanely euthanizes animals. This is no secret, unsilenced. If PETA didn't want us to know that they euthanize animals, then surely Ms. Newkirk would not speak openly about it, but the fact is that she does. Helpinganimals,com is a PETA website dedicated to the plight of animal overpopulation and the sheltering crisis.
PETA's SNIP (Spay & Neuter Immediately, Please) Campaign has provided free-of-cost sterilization for 40,000 animals since its inception.
CDLver 2 years ago 5
PETA is the antichrist of food, they clain that meat causses global warming, BULLSPIT, PETA hates meat, we need meat, animals eat meat
Masterge77 2 years ago
Right on brother! You speak the truth!
badxradxandy 2 years ago
PETA fails.
2FunnyVersionIII 2 years ago
FUCK PETA
if any members of peta read this then i sincerly hope you get thrown into a cage of lions and get ripped to pieces. you cunts should be fed to your goddamn animals
BlackFlames222 2 years ago 6
what animals they kill all of them LOL
hogjawso9 2 years ago
There are worst things than what you think are bad. Why not go after real criminals. PETA euthanises most of the animals it gets because of the state these animals are in. I've seen pictures of these animals, some with cancer eating away half of their faces. Killing them in this state is more humane. I had to put my dog to sleep when she had cancer and it was eating away her skull. Don't be so judgemental!!!!!!!!!
iloveterriers 2 years ago
Most of the animals that PeTA steals appear to be just in absolute perfect health.
And if doesn't have any room for animals, they shouldn't take them in!
TheIrateGamerShow 2 years ago
lol you remind me of micheal off of the office :P lol good vid
behold3n 2 years ago
Peta is not a shelter they do campaign work to try help ALL animals, even the ones who u like to have tortured and killed for your tastebuds.
MidniteForestAngel 2 years ago
im part of Peta, the people for the eating of tasty animals
MasterSoki 2 years ago
Fuck man, it's delicious, you know? I love the blood dripping down my lips and the drops of lukewarm blood dripping off my chin from my fresh prey. Usually puppies and other small, cute, domestic animals. I fucking love their flesh ripping while they squirm and struggle, then they let out a yelp as I rip their skin apart. I love that shit, don't you?
djbehnkevideo 2 years ago
I have a beagle, dude. proverbs 12:10
tohidefromourways 2 years ago
PETA are a bunch of faggots who instead of using money to find homes for animals like they should, they make ads about how vegiterians supposedly have better sex. Everyone part of PETA should get shot IMO
Romanmattie 2 years ago 2
I think its important to remember that a deer has a lot better chance against a hunter then a cow does in a slaughter house. In Iowa, their is such horrible deer over population that they need to be hunted more then they are to prevent over population. I do agree with apear, if it is purely for sport and the meat is not eaten, but that's also illegal, considered poaching. Hunting money from licenses saves a hell of a lot more wildlife then hunters kill.
mlasnek 3 years ago
You implied that hunting for sport was useful in our society. Now, don't get me wrong; I despise PETA. They would probably kill three humans to save one deer. Hunting for sport is just as horrible, if not more so, than euthanizing cats and dogs. You described this as "engaging in a contest of skill against an animal which has a high likelyhood of winning." I would bet my life savings that you have never been hunting in your life. If you encounter an animal chances are the bullet is faster.
apearsog00d 3 years ago
...higher standard of living??? If the care given to these animals that are used for milk and wool and such is so great, why does the footage shown speak otherwise, G Stolyarovll ???
Go ahead do a search on YouTube, then get back to us.
TheNomadicCat 3 years ago
PETA is not pro-animal but anti-human. If you understand that, then everything they do makes sense.
carcabe 3 years ago 5
Anti-Human? Yeah.....forget Osama Bin Laden, Mugabe, the U.S goverment and Al-Qaeda, it's PETA members who're raping women and killing people in the world, isn't it?
southhampton91 2 years ago
Totally irrational!! Because the people that you mention are bad PETA is good?! Never said PETA is doing what you said. They do hate humanity. You cannot elevate animals to human level. Can only equalize by lowering humans to animal level.
carcabe 2 years ago
Calling PETA anti-human is grossly irrational!! The ppl I mentioned are anti-human coz of their heinous acts against fellow human beings. On what basis does PETA qualify as anti-human? Coz they make us understand that a pig/cow isn't all that different from a dog? Or that most animals feel pain like people? Coz they force us out of our comfort zone by making us recognize our own vanity towards other living beings?There's no question of elevating/lowering human beings by acknowledging facts.
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southhampton91 2 years ago
That's PETA for ya. Bunch of stupid hypocrites.
BigGameHunterZXP 3 years ago 4
i bet this guy has never had a beer in his life...
skateboard4marijuana 3 years ago
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beer is 4 fat stupid americans!!!!(sorry for saying that)
morrowray9 3 years ago
i agree, theres another substance that is much much better ;)
skateboard4marijuana 3 years ago
I think the solution is obvious. We need to stop all animal testing and start using PETA members.
Bonecrkr 3 years ago 5
Until there are better alternatives, I believe there should be animal testing for srictly medical purposes, but animals should not be tested on cosmetic or other products.
warlordsuperfreak 3 years ago 3
PETA IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!
brodave872 3 years ago 4
Oh my god.
How do they damage the well being of humans?
And can I just ask what does hunting have to do with euthanism?
Cows that are killed on farms don't have a chance to run away. They're shoved in cages and shackled and all other unacceptable stuff.
:S. + I'm guessing they kill them painfree IF they kill the animals at all. Instead of shoving chemicals into it's eyes and electrocuting it anally then scalding it alive. Your argument is flawed. So give up.
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"Instead of shoving chemicals into it's eyes and electrocuting it anally then scalding it alive" yea, this is 2008, they dont do that anymore. unless you're talking about PETA, then yes PETA does do those just to make videos to brainwash little kids into thinking EVERYONE does that that eats meat.
ironman711 3 years ago
Dear mr never actually been to a slaughter house. Let me tell you that this practice is not used not only that most of the petarded videos they show you are from another country other then USA . in America we use well have you seen no country for old men the cattle punch used there is used to knock out and kill the animals in an instant then they well you know where I'm going don't you. I find it amazing how many followers don't question there PETA well if you did you would not be a follwer.
jsh78mang 3 years ago
I LOVE YOU!
Xqcblues10X 3 years ago
Ill tell you if you can come with a equal alternative to animal testing for medical reasons ill jump on bored with that. im against animal testing for any other reason. But alot of medicine also contains animal parts or byproducts as well
illustratedcore 3 years ago
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I HOPE YOU GET CANCER or aids
Eagle0videos 3 years ago
wow. such tolerance
char4him99 3 years ago
you can always sign up to get tested on yourself...
ironman711 3 years ago
but you asked about newkirk saying those things i showed you you said who did they give money to i showed you i just have to ask, because i can understand why you morally and ethically aposed animal testing. but i have to ask do you condone what newkirk has said about animals and peoples or the actions they taken and supported?
illustratedcore 3 years ago
illustratedcore, you stated that PETA is opposed to seeing-eye dogs, pets, and insulin. I asked where it was you read such nonsense, and you submitted unassociated comments made by Ms. Newkirk to support your claim.
You cannot cite a single instance where Ms. Newkirk made any such statements.
CDLver 3 years ago
i will give you full refrences later sadly i must go. but i very much appreciate you listening
illustratedcore 3 years ago
and in the united states animal testing is as humane as anywhere in the world. dont go sayin that animal testing only produces toxic reports because that is fabricated bs
illustratedcore 3 years ago
without animal testing we wouldnt know what parts of the brain function what. without animal testing we couldnt MANUFACTURE insulin. without animal testing we would not have vaccines!
illustratedcore 3 years ago
Antivivisectionist do not dispute the fact that the sample of tissue from which insulin was PURIFIED came from a dog. We dispute that the dog was the vital part of the experiment, and that experiments on animals played the vital role in linking insulin production to the pancreas and the pancreas to diabetes.
Chemists and chemistry alone, not dogs, gave us insulin. Without the chemical process of PURIFICATION, there would be no insulin.
CDLver 3 years ago
In the PAST, from the use of other species, much was revealed about basic biology and some of the things learned did lead to some improvement in medical science. But this is immaterial to the issue TODAY: human disease is being studied at the human cellular level, where, incidentally, it begins.
CDLver 3 years ago
Humans have grown like cancer. Were the biggest blight on the face of the planet.
Ingrid Newkirk
Eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship, enjoyment at a distance.
Ingrid Newkirk -
Probably everything we do is a publicity stuntWe are not here to gather members, to please, to placate, to make friends. Were here to hold
the radical line.
Ingrid Newkirk
Ive Heard her say these things. Im tired of people not knowing shes sick
illustratedcore 3 years ago
Where, illustratedcore, did Ms. Newkirk state that PETA is opposed to seeing eye dogs? To insulin? To pets?
Where?
CDLver 3 years ago 2
Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, Wed be against it.
-Ingrid Newkirk, WTF!!!!! that is horrible!!! Animal liberationists do not separate out the human animal, so there is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. Theyre all mammals. she has more Eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship, enjoyment at a distance. you want facts here are your facts
illustratedcore 3 years ago
Fuck penn and teller this is about Ingrid newkirk and her insane organization that thinks they can bully the world into there utopia of a fuzzy world that doesnt exist. Peta is against ALL ADVANCES IN MEDICINE IF IT COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF ANIMALS!!!!! Let me give you just a few of her insane qoutes ok. "The smallest form of life, even an ant or a clam, is equal to a human being." Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation. yes that includes eyedogs
illustratedcore 3 years ago
Someday we might reach a point where we can artificially get around animal testing but right now we cant and well never reach that without animal testing. am i against un necessary things like comedic testing. hell yes. but medical testing is extremly important. our life expectancy would be around 50 today without it
illustratedcore 3 years ago 2
Total liberation means you cant have seeing eye dogs you cant have insulin or pets or elderly companions. Animal liberation by Ingrid Newkirks own words means these things. I dont want any animals to suffer but it its a choice between my uncle getting his insulin or my friend with cancer getting her medicine cancer over animals being tested for medical research than yes i am choosing people, it sucks but its the only sane choice to be made for now
illustratedcore 3 years ago
Where, illustratedcore, did Ms. Newkirk state that PETA is opposed to seeing eye dogs? To insulin? Where have you seen PETA protesting the home of a thoughtful and caring animal guardian who keeps a companion animal?
You are parroting the juvenile antics of a Las Vegas side show. Penn & Teller are a comdey duo, not a source of credible information about PETA.
CDLver 3 years ago
I find peta to be a dangerous group with followers who are both extremists and those who have extremely good intentions but dont quite understand those who are leading them.
illustratedcore 3 years ago
illustratedcore, If one is a member of PETA, then one understands that animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment. That is total animal liberation.
Animal rightists are animal welfarists who mean it!
CDLver 3 years ago
Actually, less than half of PETA members are even vegetarian, let alone, vegan. That means the overwhelming majority of PETA members eat animals and animal products, as well as wear them. PETA doesn't mind; as long as they get their donations, they are happy. And what better way to make a lot of donations, than to appeal to everyone, including the non-animal rights crowd!
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
I am very much for the protection of animals. It just pains me that with all the animal groups out there the loudest and extremist are the ones getting support. If we could pull all the rational people away from peta we coul actually make differences that could help both animals and people. and im not trying to sound like a jerk but the reason its hypocritical for peta to kill animals is because they picket human shelters for doing just that.
illustratedcore 3 years ago
Which shelters does PETA picket, illustratedcore?
PETA does euthanize animals, and as such it makes no sense to a reasonably reasonable person that PETA would condemn another for doing so.
PETA protests the barbaric and cruel method of carbon monoxide poisoning in gas chambers widely used by shelters in VA and NC--a miserably slow death where animals struggle for 30 minutes choking and convulsing before they suffocate and die.
CDLver 3 years ago
PETA does protest Primarily Primates, an improving primate sanctuary, as well as ALL no-kill shelters. They also support BSL, and wanted all of Michael Vick's pit-bulls to be slaughtered.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
PETA became involved with Primarily Primates in 2005 when PETA was contacted by 2 of their employees, John Fischer and Terry Minchew, to report that animals were suffering immensely under the direction of drunkard Wally Swett and his sidekick, Stephen Tello, and all this -- right under the nose of Priscilla Feral.
Their sworn affidavits, PETA's video evidence, and the subsequent seizure of the
"sanctuary" by the state of Texas, all speak to the despicable conditions within that facility.
CDLver 2 years ago
PETA investigated that sanctuary during a time when they were making changes at the facility and things weren't exactly running 100% at the time. Primarily Primates has since greatly improved the sanctuary, and is doing their best to provide the animals with the best quality of life they can have. Unlike PETA, who, if they'd had it their way, would have just killed every single animal there. Oh, I'm sorry - "put them to sleep."
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
I'm also more likely to trust an actual animal rights organization than PETA, who hate all no-kill shelters and slaughter around two thousand animals each year.
Primarily Primates:
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TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
Yes, Primarily Primates has made significant improvements. That is what typically happens when PETA becomes involved in cases of animal neglect. Things change for the better for animals.
Side note: Rather than spend 500,000 dollars defending the drunkard animal hoarder, Wally Swett, who ran the hideous sanctuary, Pricsilla Feral should have spent her Friends Of Animals' member donations cleaning up that miserable "sanctuary."
CDLver 2 years ago
Primarily Primates was hit hard financially with Sept. 11 and two hurricanes, and was already in the process of making improvements when PETA decided to investigate. Things will always look worse when under construction/clean-up. Instead of PETA offering to help with their millions of dollars, they chose to demonize an already struggling non-profit sanctuary.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
So, while PETA may be taking credit for Primarily Primates' improvement, it had already been underway before they showed up. And as I recall, PETA didn't want improvements, but for the sanctuary to be shut down. Luckily, thanks to true animal advocates, this sanctuary is still running, and the animals can finally be at peace - with no thanks to PETA.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
PETATV has the undercover video of Primarily Primates posted, which documented what the conditions were for the animals housed at Primarily Primates in '05 BEFORE PETA became involved, conditions so deplorable that the state of Texas seized ownership of the facility from Wally Swett and Ms. Feral upon receipt of the video by PETA. The truth speaks for itself.
PETA never sought to close down the facility, but merely force the "sanctuary" to humanely house and care for their animals.
CDLver 2 years ago 6
PETA funded against Primarily Primates to forbid the housing of "dangerous, wild animals." And during their "investigation," they stirred up trouble by letting animals out of the cages so they could make it seem that the sanctuary was dangerous, and they threw produce in cages without permission, causing a fight among the primates. They also staged photographs, and drugged an animal to take his picture.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
And all this, including press interviews, caused great stress in the animals there, resulting in the death of a spider monkey. Primarily Primates wasn't some run-down roadside zoo making money off these animals, and not bothering to take care of the animals. They are a non-profit group that was going through a rough time financially, and PETA had to make it worse.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
Did PETA offer help, whether financially, or by volunteering? No. It was Friends of Animals who stepped in and brought the sanctuary back up on their feet. They actually had the animals' interests at heart; not some anti-sanctuary agenda they wanted to facilitate.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
You expect PETA to give financial aid to Pricsilla Feral, who squandered away 500,000 dollars of Friends Of Animals members' donations defending their drunkard director, who ultimately was ousted in a most embarrassing legal case of animal abuse and fund mismanagment?
There were sinister happenings at this "sanctuary" under Swett's direction and Feral's nose. Rather than give them a dime, PETA sought to remove the animals to genuine sanctuaries, as was the case of the 7 OSU chimps.
CDLver 2 years ago 6
Wow...it's obvious that you have multiple accounts since that is the only way someone like you to get that many thumbs ups on this kind of video...right chris? ;)
ironman711 2 years ago
So the images of Betty the chimp, who lay dying in the dirt in her own excrement for days after having given birth to a stillborn baby (sanctuaries breed animals?) and ravaged by fire ants, who had never known a merciful day at Primarily Primates, who had to be shot in the head because there was no vet on sight to humanely euthanize her, was all staged by PETA?
Affadavit of Lee Theisen-Watt, Wildlife Rehabilitator
I suppose PETA brought in the infestation of rats, mice and roaches, too.
CDLver 2 years ago 6
26,301 abandoned shelter animals die every day in 4,000 U.S. tax-payer funded shelters for want of a good home; 3, 424 are pit bull dogs.
PETA does not support banning the breed of Pit Bull dog. PETA does, however, support legislation that BANS THE BREEDING OF MORE PIT BULLS, just as they support any spay/neuter legislation as the most effective way to combat the animal overpopulation crisis.
We can only stop killing animals if we stop breeding more of them.
CDLver 2 years ago
PETA says on their website that they also support the banning of pit-pulls. While they say that they "also support pit bull bans, as long as they include a grandfather clause allowing all living dogs who are already in good homes and well cared for to live the remainder of their lives safely and peacefully," this implies that any unadopted pit-bulls, such as pit-bulls waiting in shelters to find a home, do not deserve to be protected. Also, PETA wanted Vick's dogs KILLED, not rehabilitated.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
3,424 pit bull dogs die EVERY day in shelters, 1,250,000 abandoned pit bulls are euthanized EVERY year all for want of a forever home. In many states they are dying in gas chambers, suffocated to death for 30 minutes by toxic gas. Pit Bull rescues and no-kill shelters are overwhelmed with pit bull dogs and are forced to turn many away.
And therein lies PETA's reasoning to support legislation that BANS THE BREEDING OF MORE PIT BULLS.
CDLver 2 years ago 6
The Victory dogs are a unique case -- a first ever full scale rescue, assessment, and rehabilitation of former fighting dogs. If vick had not paid 975,000 for their care, they would be dead.
Best Friends Animal Sanctuary, the no-kill shelter that rescued 22 of the Victory Dogs, has an annul budget (equal to PETA's) of 30 million dollars, and can HUMANELY house and care for 1,500 animals.
Now, what shall we do about the other 24, 801 who will die today? Tomorrow? And EVERY day thereafter?
CDLver 2 years ago 8
We reform the shelters, not participate in killing the animals there. There is no reason why PETA, with the number of donors and resources, cannot come up with a campaign to reform shelters to become no-kill. Instead, they are focused on calling people fat whales, and dressing women up in lettuce bikinis. I highly suggest you take a break from PETA's propaganda, and read up on Gary Francione and Nathan Winograd. Gary knows how animal law works, & Nathan has successfully created no-kill counties.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
On the contrary, unsilenced, after having been contacted by a police officer about the horrendous conditions at the Bertie County Animal Shelter in North Carolina, PETA spent 240,000 dollars renovating the facility, which included training of the county's only animal control officer, paying cleaners to maintain the shelter, and hiring a licensed vet to provide humane euthanasia, where the shelter once had a gas chamber.
Actually, I have Francione. I prefer Steve Best.
CDLver 2 years ago 6
WOW! One whole facility! And in any case, training people to perform "humane euthanasia" on healthy animals is NOT my idea of reform. I am talking about NO-KILL. It should be an easy concept for any honest animal rights activist to understand. You want humane killing, I want no killing. You want bigger cages, I want empty cages. You want animal welfare, I want animal rights. Not surprising that we disagree.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
PETA senses your frustration, unsilenced. America can, indeed, become a no-kill nation.
It is outrageous that the U.S. Government spends 2 billion of its citizens' tax dollars every year euthanizing 9.6 million abandoned animals that should otherwise be humanely housed, cared for and rehomed.
The laws must change. PETA works diligently to get laws passed, such as mandatory spay and neuter ordinances.
CDLver 2 years ago 14
I think the spay/neuter work PETA does is the only really good thing they do. I wish they would also stop condemning all no-kill shelters, and work more on reforming shelters to become no-kill. Yes, some no-kill shelters are bad, but that does not mean that no-kill shelters are inherently a bad idea. One would think PETA would be all for that idea. Yet they continue to criticize it. They are so focused on alleviating animal suffering, they are ignoring that animals also value life itself.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
@CDLver How about this? For every animal spayed/neutered we do the same to a PETA member. I mean, we're getting over populated too, right? We need to be concerned about our own safety, too. I mean since we're no better than animals, right? Just saying that with PETA's logic that's the only conclusion possible. Plus, on the plus side, we get to help the gene pool out just a litte bit. I find it equitable and will vote yes on that proposition.
KellandGreystone 9 months ago
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@KellandGreystone, meat causes impotence when eaten in large quantity and often. In your case, however, this wouldn't be such a bad thing. So you go ahead and do your part to help end the human overpopulation crisis and just Supersize that big mac meal.
How 'bout that, eh?
CDLver 9 months ago
Lets hope the poster of this video learnt something from CDLvers information below. It's very sad when people make videos without doing some research of the true facts first.
JUMPTHEGUNZX 3 years ago 5
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SpawnxofxMuraki 3 years ago
So what do you expect PETA to do with the animals that don't get adopted?
Care for them all ?
What a joke
exquisite6 3 years ago 8
Yes, I *do* expect PETA to care for the animals who do not get adopted. Killing them when they do not pose a health risk or are not being used to further human well-being is evil and immoral; I oppose all kill shelters, but particularly those who hypocritically prate about "ethical treatment" of animals. Death is the most unethical consequence one can inflict on an innocent creature.
GStolyarovII 3 years ago
PETA, gstolyarovll, does not have the luxury of focusing its resources on a single campaign, or even a couple of major efforts.
PETA's work covers many aspects —from life-saving work at animal shelters, to promoting spaying and neutering with their SNIP program (providing free/low cost sterilization to 45,000 animals), to conducting pin-pointed undercover investigations, to taking on corporations or the government in the courts when they fail to protect animals.
CDLver 3 years ago
If an animal can be saved, PETA will save him. If a rescued animal is healthy and sociable, which is to say, adoptable by society's standards, then he is taken to the no-kill Norfolk SPCA, where the animal may or may not be taken in because of overcrowding.
The Norfolk SPCA took in only 765 of the 45,450 homeless cats and dogs in the area. Do you know of 44,685 persons to adopt the animals that the shelter turned away?
Neither does PETA.
CDLver 3 years ago
PETA kills 97%+ of the animals they get their hands on. They also make $30 million annually in donations. They certainly have the means to save more animals. They just spend the money on buying stock from Outback Steakhouse, condemning no-kill shelters, & creating sexist, racist, & sizeist ads/demonstrations. Oh - and awarding animal killer Temple Grandin for designing an execution machine for cattle. As if it was so hard to understand PETA is not for animal rights (but animal welfare at most).
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
Your criticism of Grandin is duly noted. Nothing in her recommendations suggest "humane" handling or slaughter to me, but that's because I'm a vegan.
However, Grandin's techniques for moving animals through the chutes go a long way to reduce the animals' stress and fear, thus making them less likely to stall in the chute, thus reducing the likelihood that some frustrated hump will beat, prod, or electrocute a cow frozen with terror.
CDLver 2 years ago
I don't care what you say, awarding a sociopath for designing a slaughter chute is disgusting, and is definitely not animal rights. Anyone who thinks otherwise is welfarist and speciesist.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago
I agree with you, unsilenced, animal slaughterhouses are disgusting; that is why we are vegans.
Will I criticize or ever undermine the efforts and selflessness of others in the animal rights movement who, though they are committed vegans, still recognize that animals are suffering right now and need relief right now? No, I will not.
Every year, 850 million chickens go to the scalding tank alive, and you want to wave your finger in PETA's face for daring to stop this hideousness?
CDLver 2 years ago 3
PETA is only sending the message that animals are our to use when they focus on treatment rather than use. And when any organization praises animal exploitation - even the "humane" kind, it sends the message to the public that it is okay to devalue sentient beings, and makes consumers feel more comfortable about supporting animal exploitation. When PETA dropped their KFC Canada campaign, more people flocked there to buy chicken flesh because it was PETA-approved.
Humane Myth (dot) org.
TheUnsilenced 2 years ago 2
Surely, gstolyarovll, you cannot expect PETA to care for the 100,000 shelter animals who are gassed to death every year in North Carolina and the 94,870 who die in the miserably cruel Virginia shelters.
Best Friends, the no-kill shelter that rescued 22 of Vick's pit bull dogs, has an annul budget (equal to PETA's) of 30 million dollars, and can HUMANELY house 1,500 animals.
Now, what shall we do with the other 27,473 who will die today? Tomorrow? Every day for the next 365 days?
CDLver 3 years ago
It is high arrogance to criticise PETA for providing HUMANE euthanasia to animals who would otherwise die on the streets from illness or starvation, or be picked up by an animal control system that gasses animals to death as a means of controlling overpopulation.
A rational response to the animal overpopulation crisis, which, incidentally, PETA employs, is to provide free/low cost sterilization of animals through their SNIP program. Since its inception, 45,000 animals have been sterilized.
CDLver 3 years ago
you know peta could spend some of the money they gave to A.L.F on saving those animals lives.
illustratedcore 3 years ago
To which monies do you refer, illustratedcore?
CDLver 3 years ago
They gave about 100,000 just to Rod Coronado of A.L.F. gave 1,500 to E.L.F in 2001 and while thats not alot of money there a terrorist group so i dont think thats the point. as well as $7,500 to Fran Trutt who was convicted of attempted murder of Leon Hirsch. Ingrid Newkirk has said and I AM paraphrasing as i dont have the quote in front of me-if no one sees you throw a brick threw a window than do it. Theres alot more Financial ties to people like this
illustratedcore 3 years ago
If PETA sought to conceal their financial support to Mr. Coronado's legal defense, as well as that of Fran Trutt, surely PETA would've hidden their contributions in a document that was not PUBLIC RECORD.
CDLver 3 years ago
First amendment rights do not apply to animal rights activist such as Mr. Coronado when taking on the vivisection industry, one wherein Animal Welfare Act protections do not apply, and the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act defines as terrorism causing any business classified as an "animal enterprise" to suffer a profit loss.
At his own peril, Rod liberated animals from the worst forms of hell that warped human minds can devise. PETA graciously extended financial support to his legal defense.
CDLver 3 years ago
Actually he fire bombed a college, also all of petas finances are public knowledge becauses they claim to be non profit. so if they did hide the US would shut them down. Animal liberation also means no animal testing would would be great if it didnt mean that we would completely lose the backbone of modern medicine as a result. Im speaking facts. And Terrorism is not about buisness loss its about instilling fear and terror to get ones demands. Which is what peta themself does thru propaganda
illustratedcore 3 years ago