ugh, i've only trained for a few years, but i can already tell he doesn't have a complete understanding of the exercises and drills he's been criticizing.
don't get me wrong, i completely agree with his mindset of 'live training,' but that shouldn't result in a criticism of basic techniques as much as in a criticism of a lack of application of said techniques, which, to be fair, exists (just not so much in the states).
@Hrairoo53 I've been training for more than 20 years.I disagree.The exercises and drills that he's criticising are either nonfunctional or far less functional than Alive training.The intricacies of technique,the formulation of attacks and counters,conditioning,cool training partners,everyone being willng to put in work and not worrying about acquiring rank more than acquiring skill,real world scrappin skill,comes from Aliveness.Google THE I METHOD (Introduction Isolation Integration) and see.
@ATACXGYM and i don't disagree with you. but he is not comparing these drills in their proper context. they are not more or less functional than Alive training, they occupy a completely different role. not only is he removing them from sets which include hundreds of variants, but he is comparing them to drills that occupy a completely different area of training. these techniques are less akin to repeating a chess move, then it is to learning how the pieces move in the first place.
@ATACXGYM if you set two people at a chess board with no understanding of the way pieces move, they can play as many games as they want, they will never improve, in fact, they will be worse off than if they learned by watching someone else play. training with Aliveness drills exclusively is like reinventing the wheel. why throw your students into the stone age when we've been developing fighting systems for thousands of years? yes, aliveness is necessary, but training exclusively is just asbad
@Hrairoo53 without aliveness theres no point. aliveness allows for a greater understanding of how the pattern you were taught flows and moves and allows you to adapt small pieces of it so it fits your personal style better. I know at any gym that trains with aliveness they dont just throw their students in the ring and let them go at it, they will show a move/sequence/what have you and then have them do it in an actual fight situation
yo man were the fuk is this gym i want to goin so bad now, hes right my boxing trainer usually had us doing that stay still shit i love the alive training idea, so if anyone nows about this gym hit me up please
if you go to places in Asia where they have traditional teachings you'll see that the teachers force the students to practice with an opponent that is already a master of the martial art forcing the students to learn to do techniques against opponents who do not hold back and are reading many moves ahead as well as beating the crap out of them
the only reason martial arts schools aren't any good is because in America too many schools are just doing it for the money and are just afraid of getting sued
Thanks a lot for this video. This knowledge can, as the instructor says, be applied to any martial arts training you undergo.
The chess part was really funny and really highlighted how big a problem "static" training is... I would never play chess like that, so why even think of training martial arts like it?
Corcio713: You're right about Mcdojos, but this would only help a portion of it. Many money-crazed 'sensei's will guarantee a black belt. Black belts should never be guaranteed. It comes through proof of one's hard work and sacrifices.
Thanks Matt Thornton for this video. Retro shorts or not, your message is true. ^_^
Nice, I'm working on making my shaolin Kung fu more alive. This video hasn't opened my eyes they were already open, mostly because I was unable to protect myself in a fight and decided to incorporate JKD elements into my Shaolin System.
Um that is an okay video, but it's simply a reiteration of what BRUCE LEE already said and developed and that is his whole philosophy. I am NOT discrediting the video though, if I could choose any gym I would choose that one.
Um that is an okay video, but its simply a reiteration of what BRUCE LEE already said and developed and that is his whole philosophy. I'm discrediting the video though, if I could choose any gym I would choose that one.
Just to clarify - that is Matt Thornton and we are affiliates of his Organization (The StraightBlast Gym International) i have this on the site for my gym in NYC which is called "Ronin Athletics"
Karateka here, I'd only look at you quizzically because I don't understand why you would need to say this. Great vid.
AkatsukiPR0 1 month ago
ugh, i've only trained for a few years, but i can already tell he doesn't have a complete understanding of the exercises and drills he's been criticizing.
don't get me wrong, i completely agree with his mindset of 'live training,' but that shouldn't result in a criticism of basic techniques as much as in a criticism of a lack of application of said techniques, which, to be fair, exists (just not so much in the states).
Hrairoo53 1 year ago
@Hrairoo53 I've been training for more than 20 years.I disagree.The exercises and drills that he's criticising are either nonfunctional or far less functional than Alive training.The intricacies of technique,the formulation of attacks and counters,conditioning,cool training partners,everyone being willng to put in work and not worrying about acquiring rank more than acquiring skill,real world scrappin skill,comes from Aliveness.Google THE I METHOD (Introduction Isolation Integration) and see.
ATACXGYM 10 months ago
@ATACXGYM and i don't disagree with you. but he is not comparing these drills in their proper context. they are not more or less functional than Alive training, they occupy a completely different role. not only is he removing them from sets which include hundreds of variants, but he is comparing them to drills that occupy a completely different area of training. these techniques are less akin to repeating a chess move, then it is to learning how the pieces move in the first place.
Hrairoo53 10 months ago
@ATACXGYM if you set two people at a chess board with no understanding of the way pieces move, they can play as many games as they want, they will never improve, in fact, they will be worse off than if they learned by watching someone else play. training with Aliveness drills exclusively is like reinventing the wheel. why throw your students into the stone age when we've been developing fighting systems for thousands of years? yes, aliveness is necessary, but training exclusively is just asbad
Hrairoo53 10 months ago
@Hrairoo53 without aliveness theres no point. aliveness allows for a greater understanding of how the pattern you were taught flows and moves and allows you to adapt small pieces of it so it fits your personal style better. I know at any gym that trains with aliveness they dont just throw their students in the ring and let them go at it, they will show a move/sequence/what have you and then have them do it in an actual fight situation
conan656 10 months ago
mo teague would knock this prik out search for him
napesable 2 years ago
awesome video
you said the truth.
99% of martial arts fail doing stupid static schemes
pantherkursk 2 years ago
Wow.....doing any seminars in Califronia?
jkdjedi 2 years ago
Absolutely agree with everything said in this vid. SBGi is excellent.
metalhead00xx 3 years ago 7
yo man were the fuk is this gym i want to goin so bad now, hes right my boxing trainer usually had us doing that stay still shit i love the alive training idea, so if anyone nows about this gym hit me up please
wowcrazy70 3 years ago
check out their website. i go to the headquarters in portland, OR
sebastien0987 2 years ago
Matt Thornton is the man. For all those who don't know he gave Forrest Griffin his purple belt.
ShogunHooah 3 years ago
word!
attacksamme 3 years ago
What he is saying is right, but his chess example isn't completely logical since chess is a lot different than fighting.
Repetition is beneficial in sports becasue you need to strengthen neuromuscular pathways of those common movements so they become faster and easier.
forthewin29 3 years ago
He said after ou know the moves.
tpbisdivine 3 years ago
Excellent, you are right on about everything.
ftellez0987 4 years ago
if you go to places in Asia where they have traditional teachings you'll see that the teachers force the students to practice with an opponent that is already a master of the martial art forcing the students to learn to do techniques against opponents who do not hold back and are reading many moves ahead as well as beating the crap out of them
UltimateShinobi 4 years ago
the only reason martial arts schools aren't any good is because in America too many schools are just doing it for the money and are just afraid of getting sued
UltimateShinobi 4 years ago
guignols
paulemile 4 years ago
Thanks a lot for this video. This knowledge can, as the instructor says, be applied to any martial arts training you undergo.
The chess part was really funny and really highlighted how big a problem "static" training is... I would never play chess like that, so why even think of training martial arts like it?
shreddedglory 4 years ago
Corcio713: You're right about Mcdojos, but this would only help a portion of it. Many money-crazed 'sensei's will guarantee a black belt. Black belts should never be guaranteed. It comes through proof of one's hard work and sacrifices.
Thanks Matt Thornton for this video. Retro shorts or not, your message is true. ^_^
divineXdragon 4 years ago
That guy has the dorkiest shorts ever.
sifusocky 4 years ago
Nothin' new at all. Nothin' that Brucey boy didn't say already....or the many others before him. hmph.
tallhair87 4 years ago
Nice, I'm working on making my shaolin Kung fu more alive. This video hasn't opened my eyes they were already open, mostly because I was unable to protect myself in a fight and decided to incorporate JKD elements into my Shaolin System.
SpiritoftheDragon 4 years ago
Very honest reply here Spirit - what did you learn and what would you do different now in that same situation?
dreamcastII 4 years ago
GREAT video, i love the information. I wish more people would watch this video.
lilaceboy24 4 years ago
Congrats SBG
gothictier 5 years ago
Man, I wish every little McDojo that claims to be teaching "martial arts" would watch this video. That would fix the McDojo problem we have.
Corcio713 5 years ago
no, the owners of the organizations know this to be true already, but "hard" training hurts profit cause americans are lazy
ogreatone 4 years ago
the message here is challenging and is very topical
dreamcastII 5 years ago
Great. I love this video, and I hope the message is spreading.
Demonstormlord 5 years ago
Um that is an okay video, but it's simply a reiteration of what BRUCE LEE already said and developed and that is his whole philosophy. I am NOT discrediting the video though, if I could choose any gym I would choose that one.
sowutifmahsnsux 5 years ago
hes a student of bruce lee's martial philosophy and style, its not a coincidence
tatersyt 4 years ago
Um that is an okay video, but its simply a reiteration of what BRUCE LEE already said and developed and that is his whole philosophy. I'm discrediting the video though, if I could choose any gym I would choose that one.
sowutifmahsnsux 5 years ago
To many this will be a useless video. That is the whole point of sparring, to correct the weaknesses of the drills.
Outside45 5 years ago
Just to clarify - that is Matt Thornton and we are affiliates of his Organization (The StraightBlast Gym International) i have this on the site for my gym in NYC which is called "Ronin Athletics"
jkdronin 5 years ago
wonderful...wonderful. hopefully this message is spreading in the MA world
khujo78 5 years ago
"keep your friends close ,keep a chessboard closer to clock the other guy over the head" lesson learned
whipp 5 years ago
I wish you came and spoke to my Okinawan Karate class back in the day, I wouldn't have wasted all that time and money!
aionism 5 years ago