Marcel Dupré: Te Deum, op.43

[Zantking70]

T_T this music just fills my heart with hope for me becoming a good organ player! Outstanding! I like this composer now besides J.S. Bach !! Thanks! ^^

[organistspectacular]

Very nice--very exciting!

[musicaorganum]

I have been searching for this score for years without any luck of finding it, and now I have finally obtained a copy of it.

[lorbo77]

@musicaorganum where do you find it? me too search it.. :-(

[musicaorganum]

It is my understanding that this piece is permanently out of print and has been for some time now, but I am not sure. Can anyone please tell me where or how I might be able to obtain a copy of this piece? I have been trying to track down a copy of it for a couple of years now without any luck. I will greatly appreciate any information or leads that any of you might have for me. Thanks!

[costasimpson]

What is the relationship between this Te Deum and Demessieux's one? They sound VERY fimiliar in some parts.

[2lipsonmy0rgan]

@costasimpson: The gregorian theme!

[fraublucher2]

@costasimpson They are both based upon the Gregorian chant tune of the Te Deum and were likely based upon some sort of Grand Choeur improvisation. Also, Dupre was one of Demessieux's teachers, both privately and at the conservatory in Paris and her Te Deum could have been inspired by his.

[miauw777]

Love to see him come to Holland to play some Dutch masterpieces! He is very talented, although i want to see more personal expression than the clinical perfection he demonstrated time and time all over. Although I like very much his interpretations of Cesar Franck

[1401JSC]

Bravo Philippe D. Admirable: le mieux que j'ai entendu de toi.

Bravo Ferderico S: une vidéo tourné avec un bon équilibre de nous montrer l'organiste, l'orgue et l'église.

La pièce (écrite en 1945) me térrifie! Je ne peu pas m'éloigner l'effet aggressif (guerre à proximité) de la louange d'un Te Deum.

A la fin, je ne ressens pas de la joie.

[octavegeigen4]

éventuellement, la composition la plus difficile orgue de Marcel Dupré

[musichiere70]

Pas du tout! Les pièces les plus difficiles de Marcel Dupré sont: les "3 Esquisses", la "Suite en fa mineur" et "Evocation".

[chwidder]

Rolande Falcinelli lists the Esquisses, the Suite en fa, and the Préludes et Fugues op.36 as the most difficult. (I'd agree that the Prelude & Fugue in E minor is a *hell* of a lot more difficult than Évocation.)

[TheCatedral]

¿Et la Deuxième Symphonie? Le 1er mvt, par exemple...

Vous connaissez certainement l'interprétation de Suzanne Chaisemartin - non pas celle de Saint-Sernin (postérieure d'au moins dix ans de l'une des meilleures Seconde Symphonie) - mais bien celle de Sainte Clotilde, sur un support vinyle qui lui donne encore plus de dynamique d'écoute et de précision. Du plus pur "esprit français", et surtout du grand Dupré.

[chwidder]

The Second Symphony is certainly a very difficult work, but not as transcendental as the Esquisses, etc.

I agree about Chaisemartin's Ste-Clotilde recording (though I'm not so sure about the "esprit français" — Dupré composed this symphony for his 1929 American tour).

[64ftContraBombarde]

@musichiere70 Ou le prélude et fugue en si bémol majeur!!

[MrNivelle]

@musichiere70 On peut aussi ajouter le chemin de croix.

[chwidder]

@polsterj: Thank you, but I'm very well aware of the importance of St-Sulpice, and more generally of the way Cavaillé-Coll's organs determined organ composition in France in the 19th century. You're perfectly right as far as people like Franck and Widor are concerned.

But here, we're talking about Dupré. (And the fact that he refrained from altering St-Sulpice doesn't contradict what I've said about the influence of American organs on his compositions.)

[polsterj]

(II-II)

In Germany it was Abt Vogler who had the fundamental ideas for the romantic, in France it was Cavaillé-Coll who had great influence to the organ playing then and after him. All Saint-Sulpice organists loved ans respected their intrument, why do you think that the organ hasn't made through what the ND organ made through?

[chwidder]

(2/2)

Besides, you *still* haven't answered my question...

[miauw777]

I dont have the intention to have critisism on this beautiful instrument, only that dupre and his instrument at St.Sulpice are one. I'd really like to hear Mr. Delacourt performing this piece at St.Sulpice'. Cavaille-Coll was the greatest master and even nowadays they produced beautiful organs, but they never reached the perfection of the great master who is still an example for nowadays builders

[chwidder]

I certainly agree that the St-Sulpice organ was an important source of inspiration for Dupré (although it was not the only one). But I don't see why this makes it wrong to play his works elsewhere.

Besides, you still haven't answered my question...

[miauw777]

Automatically reset stops, is that what happens at cavaille-coll organs? Delacourt is a really talented organist, but i wanted him to see work really hard at st.sulpice! I am not convinced yet!

[chwidder]

(1/2)

Read what I said above: St-Sulpice was *an* important source. But not the only one. Dupré was very pleased with the (then) modern American organs he played during his concert tours, and many of his organ works reflect this American influence.

He actually converted his home organ in Meudon to electric action in the 1930s, and added a sequencer in the 1940s.

Therefore, the idea of *equating* Dupré's organ works with St-Sulpice simply doesn't hold water.

[polsterj]

(I-II)

You don't really know how important the st-sulpice organ is, do you? Not only the sound of the organ was and is so important. Vierne, Frack, and Widor, they were children or young men when Cavaille-Coll built his masterpiece. There was no romantic literature, daniel roth said it, the organ inspired Vierne, Widor and Frack, and also the organ at Notre-Dame. What would Widor's organ music be like if the old Clicqout-organ had ben stayed?

[miauw777]

Philippe Delacour deserved with this performance to play at the real thing i suppose, the famous Cavaille-Coll organ at St.Sulpice where this piece orginally was composed by the great master. Love this interpretation of an great performer in its own right.

[AristideCavCol]

I completely second chwidder's accurate question, couldn't phrase it any better. Too agonized to type it yesterday when I first saw the quote.

[miauw777]

Wrong organ! It should be played at the St Sulpice Cavaille-Coll Organ. But what a very high talented skilled organist. Hope to see him doing a tour in the netherlands in 2010. Lots of different organs, a real challenge!

[chwidder]

Well, my dear miauw777, since you seem to be so knowledgeable about what should or should not be played where, please tell us: *what* exactly ought to be played at this particular instrument in Dudelange, Luxemburg?

[Babejuda]

Great piece of music, organ-sound and playing. Bravo!

[kloppiej]

WOW, i don't have any words. Great ! Thank you for posting this vid!

[tjugofyra]

This is perhaps my favorite Dupré!

This piece is crazy! It must be incredible hard!

[dougjensen]

Another spectacular organ video from Federico Savio -- he has recorded the performer so that you can see his hands and feet. His videos set a new high standard for the quality of organ performance recordings on YouTube.

[FoXpl]

Incredible!

Sound is amazing :o

[2468HOTROD]

Freakin' A! What a great pipeorgan! Thank you for this music.

[beatlefreak777]

best composer ever :]

[TrompenCham167]

The pipes at the beginning look like large 32' wooden principal pipes

[tjugofyra]

It's "Untersatz 32'" from before the restauration!

[Brandotuomikoski]

what are the pipes at the beginning?>

[ukorganist]

Great visual production (and playing!)

[tjugofyra]

This is brilliant! fantastic organist and a fantastic organ!!