Obama used it in the health care bill. It was used in the health care law. What is Obamas doing to R country. Dhimmitude, Never heard the word Till now. Google it, It's on page 107 of the healthcare bill. It is a REAL word. Dhimmitude Dhimmitude: the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. It is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.
My answer is our government has lost there mines. This money will go to paying off the Jewish owned Federal reserve Bank. It is not even Federal. Unless federal means Jewish. They print the paper dollar for 3 cents. and we pay them a dollar and sixty cent for it. Pretty good scam. Maybe we should print the paper dollar and charge them two dollars. Egypt is looking pretty good about right now. I'm not stupid, I'm with the other 100 million American that knows what time it is.
Are Americans the stupidest people on the planet? Have they forgotten that a Republican by the name of George W. Bush was in office when the recession hit, not to mention his failed policies are the reason in large part for some of the major problems plaguing this country? And yet our stupid misinformed public is going to vote in 23 days and possibly give Republicans the majority in the House. Wow, if that happens then its official, in the next 2 years nothing constructive will get done.
The American people wound up electing a Communist president in 2008 and a Socilist congress in 2006 becuase A liberal Republican President and congress did the people wrong for 6 years.
Now the Democrats have done wrong by the people and they will throw out the Democrat congress and again take their chances and hope this crop of Republicans will act Conservatively and stop the madness that is 0bamaPelosiReid Care, Cap and Tax, Stimulus1, Stimulus 2, Bailouts, etc.
@PawtucketPatriot66 Its not going to work, its going to the be an exact repeat of Bush. No, the Republicans have always been about smaller government and larger tax breaks for wealthier Americans. I can't recall how many "tea baggers" I have heard complaining about how we need smaller government and they are the bottom of the barrel and what do you know? They are the ones collecting from government run programs like Badgercare and Medicare.
@PawtucketPatriot66 If you really think that we have ever had a communist or socialist president, then you're not familiar with legitimate political science. Obama is, at most, a social democrat; he is by no means a socialist of any kind. Why don't you actually go read the Communist Manifesto, so you can actually educate yourself on what communism is. There's only one socialist in the government, and that's Bernie Sanders, a Senator from Vermont - and you know what? He's wildly popular.
BTW: It will be better if nothing gets done opposed to the BS agenda of Obama and his Socialist congress. I'll take gridlock over the crap that has taken place the last 2 years.
But buck up, you will still have plenty of liberal Republicans like McCain, Lindsay Graham, Snow, Collins, Scott Brown, John Boehner and Eric Cantor who will always be willing to cross the aisle and make nice a give ups water down liberal ploicies. So all is not lost for you.
i just can't believe that people are that stupid to trust government.... healthcare is not gonna be beter at all....you will be standing in lines for months and you wouldn't have a choice even to get a better treatment....cuz you'll have to be in the LINE... sucks... Why doesn't govermnent creat their own hospital where they can have their stupid rules and insurances? They are destroying USA....
I come to watch this, like, once a month to prove to myself that hate and fear-mongering don't always win. Like Krum said, Congress majorities come and go, but this bill? This bill is forever. The country moved leftward. Take Congress in November if you want, conservatives; liberals won something bigger.
Never noticed that but yes I suppose she does. I suppose she's trying to make up for her lack of brains with her figure (quite unsuccessfully I might add).
@BrickfilmAnimation Right! I mean sickness is God's judgement against the sinful right? So if we keep people from dying from preventable illnesses then...well...God just does not like that right!!!!
@rocas511 yeah I read it. It manadates people to buy private health insurance and subsidizes it. It also gives the "Secretary" ultimate authority on who to choose as accepted providers to get subsidies from the government. It also implements new taxes on the middle class with no tax hikes on the upper.
@thefredsays and the stock market read the bill as well, once public option got took out stocks in the health sector rallied. Why would a healthcare provider only finance the republicans when they can just as well donate to both sides of the debate...
@Idolcruisefix I have no ideal why we were ever in Vietnam when one looks back on the history of it all. That is not the only blemish on U.S. Govt. There were natural aquifers in Vegas that could've been used as a water source had the govt not polluted it with radiological testing. That water source is still contaminated to this day thanks to ye 'ole govt.
@Idolcruisefix this is really starting to play into the theory quite well of the military industrial complex the just keeps finding excuses to go to war because war is big business. And the history classes even in college failed to address the Vietnam War and just label it as a war against communism. And healthcare was nothing more than one big tax package with a hidden agenda. Govt doesn't have much left in the way of credibility or the way they've managed our tax dollars.
The majority of Americans were apposed to this bill but they defied the will of the people. Make them accountable, when you defy the will of the people it is like spitting their faces! The people have a voice and it should be heard or shall there be hell to pay! This violates the basic principles in which our country was formed. What else will they defy our will on? Vote them out in 2010 and in 2012
@timefordifference Actually, 55% of Americans are FOR Health Care Reform, & last time I checked, 55% IS the majority, which means the majority of Americans are FOR the Health Care Bill. Nice try.
@ofelixdacat The Day of the vote, I believe the polls showed 50% apposed the bill as it was written; most wanted it tabled and fixed. 10 % undecided and 40% approved the passage.
@FutureTimes Yes, wasting millions of Tax dollars on an unsuccessful pointless war in Iraq makes total sense. Every successful developed nation offers a socialism health care program to it's citizens, so if it wasn't successful, then those countries wouldn't be doing it. Smart countries learn from the success of others, NOT start pointless wars for oil.
damn...I forgot why we are supposed to hate them gays and the blacks and the jews. It does create energy but it is so blatantly obvious a manipulatory tactic that I can't credit how anyone could be fooled.
Some of these people hate and want to hurt others...why?
yeah you said. it sure bring out the worst in me. im pretty nice till i read some of this garbage on utube. i should realize these goofs are all fired up by rush and sara and glenn and it gives them some sick sense of empowerment. did i get that right????
As a soldier, I find it pretty amazing that Republicans are making such a fuss over being forced to purchase health insurance because it "infringes their freedom." Why weren't any of you raising a fuss when Bush announced that he was going to infringe on soldiers' contracts by implementing his "stop loss" policy so he could wage his pointless war in Iraq? Why do you complain about costs associated with Obama's plan but spending trillions in Iraq was acceptable? hypocrites
consist of mega Corporations that have control of this country they own and have bought out senators and lobbist who do there dirty work for them. Get over it there is no such thing as "We the People" that no longer exists. Too many Me's out there.
robbery,and death panels and an aspirin for a heart attack.. total takeoverwell now they got our healthcare, they have given the IRS new powers to spy on us biweekly and everytime we get paid to garnish our wages and take our bankaccts.nothing more than huge
Geez. The repubs are bad losers....a bunch of white Christian heterosexual males who are always used to getting things THEIR way! Sorry, boys, those days are OVER. Women, gays, blacks, latinos, and Jews have demanded an won a place at the table. Get over it! This is EVERYBODY'S country, not just yours!
@AveolarD But the majority are not and those who tap tap on the floor are usually not out and are self-loathing, unlike those of us who are out and pushing the issues.
Hey pig, keep believing that liberal actions are what we need. BUSH kept us safe after 9-11. I don't remember you saving this GOD blessed nation. He doesn't shake hands with dick- tators like your pres. Plus, the war has kept you from death. Right? FUCK OFF!!!!
Too bad Bush couldn't STOP 9-11 from happening in the 1st place. If you want to talk about a DICKtator, Bush banned potentially life saving stem cell researched, & stopped the legalization of marijuana even after the voters approved it. & don't get me started on 'No child left behind'. If this country was really god blessed, then unemployment, divorce, & the uninsured wouldn't be so high. If anything the war has CAUSED death: 104,000 civilian casualties.
@ofelixdacat hey you idiot, Obama is continuing the wars and torture and secret prisons, he is more of a criminal then Bush and that takes alot of doing
Obama is a more than competent President that stands for the american people. he doesnt have a deceptive bone in his body. you're too embarassed to admit that your party is a failure so you resort to smearing Obama who is more Presidential than the two bushes AND reagan combined becuz all three were fucks ups. the more you defend bush the worse you and your party look
And who started the war? BUSH. How many people have died in the war? Over 104,000 CIVILIAN Casualties,and that doesn't include troops killed. Why did we go to war with Iraq? OIL. Without oil,the big oil companies would all plummet to hell, & THAT us what Republicans care most abort: Corporations & the interests of the upper class. Democrats actually care about the citizens of America. Republicans call war vets "heroes" yet they dont give a crap if those vets can afford to survive or not.
@cbat36 & we are not at war with Afghanistan, we are send troops to protect the Afghan people, who are being terrorized by the Taliban. If you want to stop terrorism, then what are you supposed to do with terrorist other then torture them for information, & to imprison them? We should let terrorist roam free?
The whole time we were in Iraq,we didn't even find any nuclear weapons,what the hell?
nothing republicans do ever seems to work including no child left behind
Teachers tell me the program is a failure so that's another problem Obama has to fix
Even Bush's appointed head of the EPA Christine Todd Whitman fucked up like Bush, telling first responder workers they could go back to the 911 site-that it was safe to breathe the smoke and fumes
naturally, they're dying now
and if you ask me, the more republicans and tea baggers complain, the more it pleases me
you have to have actually gotten something accomplished and this is the problem with republi-cants; they havent done anything so they have problems getting elected
the only things republi-cants are noted for is creating massive deficits, phony wars that waste taxpayer money, and mishandling disasters here at home, not to mention creating depressions that leave millions of victims out on the street
See that vid of Bush shaking hands with a haitian then wiping his hand on clinton's shirt?
Congrats! Social Security will pay out more this year than they will take in. This was not suppose to happen until 2016. Millions of Americans have lost everything we own for one reason - we lost our jobs. While we pleaded with you to work with the private sector to find ways to create jobs, you ignored us - you endlessly repeated HC sob stories. You were heck bent on "Making History" by passing Health Care rather than concentrating on what we really want- A JOB!!!! You must be so proud.
@cbat36 They're not taking anything away,you are still more then welcome to choose private healthcare, but theres also going to be a Public option for people who can't afford private healthcare. If Faschism means caring about the people of your nation who are less fortunate, then so be it. Only a good government would care about the well being of it's people.
If you want to talk about taking things away, the republicants did that, taking away peoples rights that is.
To the park place fag, you have no kids, you are a minority, spend money on rims and clothes and sound equip., no good job that offers goog HC and listens to hip hop-rap crap all day. OR-- are you just f'n stupid?
MONEY,MONEY,MONEY Thats what its about folks.Alot people stand to get rich from this.Why we go tubes!2012 we are gonna find out what is coming and it ain't the end of the world,but new world order.Kings and Qweens rule again mabey not in the same matter and style,but the same rules we are to be the Peasants in the new world.its to control and rule us more easily.Are United States Constitution is just a piece of paper anymore.why do we take this we need to stand together and fight once again!!
Ever wonder why Democrat's are so willing to lay their jobs on the line just to pass socialized medicine? They are banking on their next burning of the Flag, Legalization of 11 Million Illegal Trespassers! This is their re- election insurance plan. Loyalty to boarder crashers. When the tyrant Obama wins a re-election under the power of a flood of illegal voters, that's when the levy will break and good Americans will have no choice but to take up arms in their own defense! Change for the Worst!
@FutureTimes This new health care option is only for US citizens,NOT illegal immigrants,so their goes your theory.And illegals are already getting free healthcare, right now whenever someone can't afford an emergency room visit, the taxpayers are the ones splitting the bill. Under the new policy, EVERYONE will be able to afford health care,unless you're illegal that is.
@ofelixdacat Put on your reading glasses DUMB DUMB, nobody said illegals are getting health care, besides they already have it, it's called the ER.
Also DUMB DUMB, how may bills pass that aren't changed? That's the Beauty of Government, once hey have the power and control, they slowly make it what ever the want or in Oama's case it could totally change over night. I'm glad you are so proud and trusting of the many efficient Government programs that really deliver with excellence! DUMB, DUMB
@FutureTimes Personal attacks & name calling are what DUMB people do because they can't come up with a good argument, & name calling is more your thing & a republican thing), not mine.
yes, because "DUMB DUMB" Bushes programs such as "No child left behind" were so Excellent!
@ofelixdacat Thanks for blaming the Republican party for name calling.
What a relief, for a minute I was feeling like an individual. Thanks for reminding me that I'm just another one of them rotten eggs in a basket with the rest of them.
It's similar to Obama Care, every one is the same, just a bunch of farm animals on Uncle Sam's farm. Old OBama Had a Farm E I E I O.
I don't need to blame anyone, It's the Republicants that are giving Democrats death treats and calling them names, as if it's going to accomplish anything.
& "freedom & justice for all" means EVERYONE is equal, & NO ONE is better then another. Too bad Bush forgot about this when he tried to take peoples rights away. Obama is trying to save lives& help those that are less fortunate. Bush sent thousands to Iraq to be killed for no reason. THAT is the difference.
@ofelixdacat I hope you get that other eye fixed soon, this sort of thing is human nature and happens left , right , black whites. Any group in the world that feels offended will have outspoken idiots. I don't expect you to understand this, you can't even grasp the unfairness of Obama Care.
EVERYONE will now be able to get health care, what is so unfair about that? If you don't want public health care, you can either get your own private care or move to Mexico. "Fairness" means EVERYONE is equal & has access to all the same benefits & rights, @futuretimes which is what health care is going to be. According to republicans, health care should only be for rich people who can afford it, & THAT is not fair. The words "Fair" & "Republican" don't belong in the same sentence.
this is why the republicans love to fight for the right to life. then twenty years later they can send those babies off to war TO DIE> republicans CAN BE extremely evil. bush jr,,,,reagan. matter of fact reagan already had alzheimer's during his two terms. scarey aint it? ofcorse bush jr, he is just plain rotton spoiled and absolutely rude and STUPID.he's proof that anyone can become president. where were all these clowns when he was breaking all kinds of laws? denial is such a sickness.
@ofelixdacat Got it! Take more money from my check higher taxes to pay for someone who refuses to get out of bed is fair. You are pure Genius! So next time you buy a new car you should find someone less fortunate who also needs a new car and buy it for them or not buy yours until you can do so. Sure you have no problem with this or you would be what's called a hypocrite. It's not fair for America to have free health care and not Ethiopia. If you disagree then you're and American Supremest Nazi.
@FutureTimes What does lazy people have to do with health care? Have you not realized that many people without health care either have jobs that don't provide them health care, or can't find a job with good health care since jobs are so scarce due to the recession? Who started the recession? Republicans
Considering that you have to pay TAXES when you by a new car, I don't see what that has to do with anything. All taxes go to help people, should we not pay taxes at all?
@ofelixdacat Let's not be American Supremest. So being an American automatically make you worthy, gives you the right to have? What about better harder working people in other Countries? Are they the only ones worthy of being the have nots?
Its good that everyone is worthy of your hard earned money. Have you heard of ER or food banks? It works for people willing to use it. Nobody can leagaly be turned away from ER. Ask the illegals, they go there for a cough. You sound like a Supremest to me.
@FutureTimes The US doesn't run the whole world, & it put to those countries what they want to do with their "hard working" citizens. In fact, we are already giving health care to illegal immigrants. People in other nations don't pay American taxes like what American citizens do, so how would the US giving free health care to a foreign nation be justified?
@FutureTimes Canada has free health care, does that mean Canada should have to give all Americans free health care, even though we are not Canadian Citizens, we don't live or work in Canada, and we don't pay Canadian taxes? You really can't think of ANY real reasoning or logic can you?
@FutureTimes Now that you've brought it up, Tax payers are already paying for Health Care for people who visit the ER but can't afford it. Should the ER be allowed to let someone die just because they can't afford to pay? No? Then you are being a Socialist too.
@FutureTimes Uncle Sam WANTS YOU to join the US Army. Who sent the army to Iraq to get slaughtered just so that his family's oil businesses could keep making a profit? BUSH, a Republican't. Republican'ts are the conformist: They conform to what big evil corporations and businesses want.
@ofelixdacat I think the same shit is going on in Afghanistan. How long have we been in these countries for. A former trucker I once new obvioulsy knew what he was talking about when he said Iraq was a war for oil. All that money spent on wars could've gone towards healthcare. Money well spent or should I say mismanaged by our govt and the taxpayers don't have a say yet are duped everytime at the polls.
@ofelixdacat and (not taking a side, here, just pointing out funny observations) I'm seeing just about as bad propaganda as what Fox News typically gives about the Democrats. What annoys me about politics today is that when someone calls out someone else for doing something they view is wrong, they're doing the exact same type of wrong thing.
@boilers2010 Yes, what you are seeing is called "Hypocrisy" it's when someone does something which they claim to be against. Republicans have eared the nickname "Republican'ts" for being extremely hypocritical. Republican'ts claim to represent family values yet go off to do things like sleep with male prostitutes, cheat on their wives, murder, rape & molest children, have their teenage daughter get pregnant, & so forth. The Republican't moto: "Do as I say, not as I do".
@ofelixdacat Ahh the inferiority complex sets in. While I make observations, you deem it necessary to define words to me that I just got done exemplefying. I guess it just sounds so much better when you say it... So now back to my point: both sides are guilty of this, yes. I get that. Actually, that's what I was saying to begin with. So essentially, you proved my point for me with your comment.
@ofelixdacat (cont'd) Now for those who aren't complete morons, please quit with the annoying political finger pointing. I'm serious. It is getting really old and useless.
@ofelixdacat I'm not denying that I'm annoyed by Republican hypocracy. However, I'm trying to point out that neither party is hypocracy-free (for lack of better term), and both parties do a considerable amount of finger-pointing and name calling. I'm getting at the fact that if you're going to criticize any party (Democrats, Libertarians, Republicans, etc.), make sure you aren't doing what you criticize them for.
@boilers2010 Democrats aren't the one's trying to take peoples rights away, like same sex marriage, the right for a woman to choose, the right for anyone to have access to affordable health care, etc. Rep.s are against killing unborn babies, yet they are all for sending troops to Iraq to be killed. There was just a Rep.S Senator in CA who voted against gay marriage yet was caught driving drunk after leaving a gay club with another man. Im not pointing fingers, I'm stating facts.
@ofelixdacat That's funny you say "there was just" (I'm really hoping that you mean pre-2008, because if you do, ignore this post). Currently, both Californian Senators are Democratic females. Nice try.
@boilers2010 California has 40 State senators, not just 2. The one I'm talking about is Roy Ashburn, who is republican and voted against gay rights and gay marriage, yet was caught this year in March leaving a gay club with another man, & driving drunk, & was given a DUI. He has since come out of the closet. Talk about hypocrisy.
@ofelixdacat Sorry, I misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about California's US Senators, which is why I was confused. I totally agree that is a hypocritical practice, and I am annoyed that a member of a party which has ideals that I strongly agree with (Christian, conservative morals along with smaller government) has displayed such behavior. I'm sure, though, that we could find examples of this in every party if we tried to (which is part of my point).
@boilers2010 I can mention plenty of Hypocritical things Rep.s do, yet how many hypocritical things to Democrats to? When a Democrat cheats on his wife, it's not like he was endorsing "Conservative Family Values" in the 1st place, however when a Republican does it, he is being 100% Hypocritical, which many rep.s have done.
@ofelixdacat So by stating facts, I'm assuming "Republican't" is the actual name of a political party? Goodness, man. Stick with the issue. I mean for crying out loud, you're so sidetracked, you're getting me sidetracked! I'm not here to debate politics, because I could do that all day long, waste a bunch of time, and accomplish nothing.
@FutureTimes I'm a Supremacist? Republicans were the ones who didn't want blacks, or women to have equal rights, they are the one who don't want gays to have the right of marriage, They don't want women to have the right to an abortion, and they don't want poor people to have affordable health care. Republicans are the true Supremacist. Nice try.
@ofelixdacat You must get your education from the Chavez re-write the history history. It's obvious you are no white cat, More logic, less emotion please.
@FutureTimes I've given you nothing but logic, You've only puked out illogical options,& you've answered none of my Questions. Aren't 911, Policing, Fire Departments & Public School all socialism? If they are, then how are they bad? People can get an education or get help during an emergency due to public tax dollars. That's what health care is going to do, aid people during an emergency. It's worked in over 22 countries, why would the US be an different?
@FutureTimes 911, public schools, policing, fire depts. etc are all funded by tax dollars and are used to help people when they are in need, yet YOU are not complaining about those things. Aren't all those things 'Socialism'? If you're ok with publicly funded schools & 911 yet, not health care, then YOU are the hypocrite.
Its not fair for 22 countries to have free health care but not America, whats your point? Nazis didnt care about people, just like Republicans.
@ofelixdacat Bush launched this mess, Obama is his brain child. Hating Bush doesn't make Obama great!. The umbilical cord of Obama. Be a man and stop feeling sorry for people. Typical liberals value what other countries do & point the finger at the US for every conflict in the world. All the while you give a pass to other Countries for their wrong doing. Rather than growing balls and leaving to a Country you prefer, you choose to change what generations have loved for hundreds of years pal!
@FutureTimes If it werent for change, women still wouldnt be able to vote for own property, Blacks would still have to sit at the back of the bus, & Alcohol would still be illegal. Republicans shun change, but take advantage of it when it happens. If it werent for the womens right movements, no women would be in a position of power, which is very hypocritical for female republicans who run for senator, governor, or even president. Women couldnt vote until THAT was changed
@ofelixdacat Depends on the change, you use the word change loosely like it always equates to a good outcome. This is similar to how you use of the word progressive.
The Charles Mason family and the Heavens gate cult considered themselves progressives. They also wanted change!
@FutureTimes The US is causing many conflicts in the world, because if it weren't, then 9-11 wouldn't have happened. And the whole mess with OIL is the US's fault, as well as China's. Republicans think communism is so bad, yet were are doing business with china, even allowing genocide to happen in Rwanda just so that China can have it's oil. Why did we go to Iraq? So the US can get the oil that's their, THAT'S why.
@ofelixdacat We must start wars and kill for oil. It is the life blood of our country and our children. Get the OIL! Get the OIL! Just think how much health care could be provided if we had all the oil we need. Without oil you and your children would starve to death. If our reserve was gone and zero coming in the country, you would be screaming blood for oil as you are days from starvation! Every aspect of our nation relies on oil from planting, to harvest, to transport. Oil is bad huh? Get it!
@FutureTimes Why do we need oil? SO that the gigantic oil companies can keep profiting, which is what Republicans what, for Giant corporations and big businesses do be able to rip people off & make big bucks, since THAT is the American way, according to most republicans. In Fact BUSH'S family owns oil companies, which is why we invaded Iraq, to ensure that is family fortune wouldn't go dry, & would continue to have a never ending supply of oil to rip Americans off with unregulated prices.
@FutureTimes Why else do we need oil? To fuel our Hummers & make Plastic. Heaven forbid that Americas would ever resort to better fuel alternatives & which are better for the environment & use less Gas, such as Electric vehicles & Hybrids, OH NO! What would we ever do if those big oil corporations stop making a profit by ripping people off? What would we do if car manufactures couldn't sell gas guzzling cars? Oil makes gas & plastic: two things which BAD for the environment.
Wonder why Democrat's are so willing to lay their jobs on the line just to pass socialized medicine? They are banking on their next burning of the Flag, legalization of 11 million Illegal trespassers. This is their re- election insurance plan. That's right folks, our A-wall Government has more loyalty to boarder crashers than their own American citizens.
I hope you all know that are generation, that is still in school will have to pay for all this shit, and all the baby boomers will be dead and gone, knowing they are making are lives suck
I love it. The Republicans want to repeal this bill so that a whole ton of young voters can to again be ineligible to be on their parents' insurance plans? And they want to go back to allowing health insurers to commit rescission of policyholders at any time? And go back
to allowing health insurers to deny coverage to anyone, including children, based on pre-existing conditions. Good luck running on that platform in the fall!
you're damn right republicans want to repeal this. if people are SOOOOO destitute to get healtcare let them apply for medicaide rather than ruining our entire system.
U guys need to stop arguing with these LOONEY LIBS. We need to get mobilized and REMOVE everyone who voted for this Bill in NOVEMBER. THATS where the energy needs to be focused 100%
Spread the word, and get mobilized early to get out and VOTE THESE BASTARDS OUT . Thats the FIRST step in getting this REVERSED. STOP arguing with INSANE people. They have shown us their true colors. Its time to take back this country., either that or MOVE OUT and let it CRUMBLE. We will NOT pay for this SHIT.
ok, so the REPBLICAN party sucks, and the DEMOCRATS sucks as well.............. forget it, both parties don't work. I say, kick ALL OF THEM out the curve and bring in some independents.
So just how do you recon you will be paying for an "illegal's runny nose" if they don't have health insurance? I am Canadian and only have health insurance in foreign countries like yours if I buy it. Just like you would need to buy insurance specifically if you traveled to my country. Your new health care bill is a step in the right direction but still a far cry from other developed countries in the world.
Pelosi and Reid have approval ratings that would have made GW's ratings look good, and was even all the way back 08' too.
Pelosi's district is just as crazy as she is, and given that this was one long ideological push on her and others part, winning is the only objective, obviously.
Don't you remember when Obama said that illegals wouldn't be provided free medical care under this bill? or were you too distracted by the uneducated, scumbag, freak that was yelling nonsense out for no good reason? You filthy traitor.
Like I trust anything Obama says. He's a fucking liberal. There will be no second term.
All they care about is themselves, most people didn't want this fucking health care scam. They voted for it anyway, so don't be surprised when they get voted out next. Good riddance.
it is written into the bill in such a manner that we will be forced to pay health care for all of mexico you stammering stupid fuck. all they have to do is come here and they get priority over your stupid ass. so bend over dumbass.
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!! Fuckity Fuck Fuck!!!! ....got a little carried away there but seriously...WTF, first we take away freedom of speech, get $12T in debt, now we're spending billions on a healthcare bill most American's don't want...next is Immigration Reformation and Gun Control......man Republican/Democrat idgaf I want someone who can actually take back America and make it right again.
Why don't you just get the hell out of America? Move someplace the hell elose you traitor. Trust me, nobody is gonna miss you retarded, home schooled, bible thumping freaks. NOBODY. You are all losers. Unmotivated, scumbag traitors. Just plain losers.
@ParkPlace5677 , Yea and you want the government to hand everything to you on a silver plater. As they say, whoever lets you use something, they can just as easily take it away. That's whats going to happen here with other things besides healthcare(welfare, etc.)...I mean look at Canada, they've had this healthcare passed long before us and their government controls what medicines you get and surgeries and so on and it's bad and this is exactly whats going to happen here in this country.
I agree. These liberals should stop all their complaining and pay their $800/month bill! It's only money
Fuck it, who needs adequate coverage?
It's not whether we have affordable health insurance that matters. The real issue is Government interfering with our lives and depriving us of choices
and making choices is infinitely more valuable than the cost of a human life!
@Piglatinsuperstar Not to mention we have machines that PRINT money, mhmmm that seems a little odd
To add onto your comment about choices, they really are valuable when we have to freedom to do so..thats why America was a great country, but then we let certain people get in and they wanna either kiss up to other countries or they want control or both. This November coming up, lets slow down the process of total government take over.
8 years of doing nothing was more than enough. if you're a republican and stand for doing nothing that's fine but I for one think this country could stand for some much needed improvements
as for the tea baggers, no one even respects them including the republicans who just exploit their stupidty in order to enflame the masses and are being used in the same way as the evangelicals
@Piglatinsuperstar I don't give a shit about either party....Republican/Democrat, they've both done things good and bad....I'm all about the candidates view and what they will do for the country and so far we have added one more thing for the government to interfere with our lives'. I'm well aware of what the Republican's did the last 8 years and I'm not too fond of it either, its the fact that we have those kind of people in the party, not the party name itself.
@Piglatinsuperstar The government interfering with our lives and depriving us of choices. Conservatives are champions at that with gay marriage and abortion.
I dont like the way they act. I dont like the way they look, do their hair. I dont like the way they smell either. Their women SUCK in bed too! they're too fucking stiff and too afraid to wiggle it or let out so much as a groan
But most of all, they suck when it comes to running any sort of operation and like their representatives, cant balance a budget for shit
Faux News is talking about fighting this in court. I suppose they want that joke of a supreme court to steal them a victory that they cant win at the ballot box. Hmm. Where have I heard that before.
The niggers and mexicans want a free ride in our society, on the backs of those (like myself) who are rich. Well, go to hell. White people are SICK and TIRED of paying for you stupid morons who don't know how to stop breeding like aids infested rats and roaches!
In Private Health Care you are a business opportunity and always welcomed for treatment.
In Obama Care you are evaluated and receive treatment based on value of investment. It similar to a good stock or a bad stock that might die. If the Doc says your chances are 20%, the Obama Health Care
Team says "Not worth the investment, halt
all further treatment" It's a no brainer but
most liberals have less than no brain so they don't get it! Fact the Gov refused it for themselves. U Dumb Ass Libs!
In Private Health Care you are welcomed as a business opportunity therefore your business is always welcome.
In Obama Care you are evaluated and receive treatment based on if you are worth investing in similar to a good stock or bad stock that might die. If the Doc says your chances are 20%, the Obama Health Care
Team says "Not worth the investment, halt
all further treatment" It's a no brainer but
most liberals have less than no brain so they won't get it!
Haha I'm Australian and I really dont give a shit but I realized Democrats really are just niggers and faggots. If you notice, all the right wingers are always the ones with the vicious comments in these types of debates. The niggers and faggots are too stupid or pussy to fight back against them. xD Good show fucking Americunts.
What an embarassment.
outdoorsman909 1 week ago
Obama used it in the health care bill. It was used in the health care law. What is Obamas doing to R country. Dhimmitude, Never heard the word Till now. Google it, It's on page 107 of the healthcare bill. It is a REAL word. Dhimmitude Dhimmitude: the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. It is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.
onstageagain 10 months ago
My answer is our government has lost there mines. This money will go to paying off the Jewish owned Federal reserve Bank. It is not even Federal. Unless federal means Jewish. They print the paper dollar for 3 cents. and we pay them a dollar and sixty cent for it. Pretty good scam. Maybe we should print the paper dollar and charge them two dollars. Egypt is looking pretty good about right now. I'm not stupid, I'm with the other 100 million American that knows what time it is.
tlbashort 1 year ago
"Great! where are we going?" Pippin (LOTR)
TheReaganRevolution 1 year ago
does pelosi have fake teeth? =P
jw16e4 1 year ago
Are Americans the stupidest people on the planet? Have they forgotten that a Republican by the name of George W. Bush was in office when the recession hit, not to mention his failed policies are the reason in large part for some of the major problems plaguing this country? And yet our stupid misinformed public is going to vote in 23 days and possibly give Republicans the majority in the House. Wow, if that happens then its official, in the next 2 years nothing constructive will get done.
jrpeters5 1 year ago
@jrpeters5
The American people wound up electing a Communist president in 2008 and a Socilist congress in 2006 becuase A liberal Republican President and congress did the people wrong for 6 years.
Now the Democrats have done wrong by the people and they will throw out the Democrat congress and again take their chances and hope this crop of Republicans will act Conservatively and stop the madness that is 0bamaPelosiReid Care, Cap and Tax, Stimulus1, Stimulus 2, Bailouts, etc.
PawtucketPatriot66 1 year ago
@PawtucketPatriot66 Its not going to work, its going to the be an exact repeat of Bush. No, the Republicans have always been about smaller government and larger tax breaks for wealthier Americans. I can't recall how many "tea baggers" I have heard complaining about how we need smaller government and they are the bottom of the barrel and what do you know? They are the ones collecting from government run programs like Badgercare and Medicare.
jrpeters5 1 year ago
@PawtucketPatriot66 If you really think that we have ever had a communist or socialist president, then you're not familiar with legitimate political science. Obama is, at most, a social democrat; he is by no means a socialist of any kind. Why don't you actually go read the Communist Manifesto, so you can actually educate yourself on what communism is. There's only one socialist in the government, and that's Bernie Sanders, a Senator from Vermont - and you know what? He's wildly popular.
xleftoutindigox 1 year ago
@jrpeters5
BTW: It will be better if nothing gets done opposed to the BS agenda of Obama and his Socialist congress. I'll take gridlock over the crap that has taken place the last 2 years.
But buck up, you will still have plenty of liberal Republicans like McCain, Lindsay Graham, Snow, Collins, Scott Brown, John Boehner and Eric Cantor who will always be willing to cross the aisle and make nice a give ups water down liberal ploicies. So all is not lost for you.
PawtucketPatriot66 1 year ago
@jrpeters5 I'm afraid that the answer to this is yes. Americans are the stupidest people on earth.
mrob611 1 year ago
i just can't believe that people are that stupid to trust government.... healthcare is not gonna be beter at all....you will be standing in lines for months and you wouldn't have a choice even to get a better treatment....cuz you'll have to be in the LINE... sucks... Why doesn't govermnent creat their own hospital where they can have their stupid rules and insurances? They are destroying USA....
DInara1999 1 year ago
I come to watch this, like, once a month to prove to myself that hate and fear-mongering don't always win. Like Krum said, Congress majorities come and go, but this bill? This bill is forever. The country moved leftward. Take Congress in November if you want, conservatives; liberals won something bigger.
MeteorPhoenix1127 1 year ago
Nancy Pelosi - the Wicked Witch of The West.
DONGOE 1 year ago
Im not gay, but you have to admit, gay bars have a lot ofcheap long happy hours!
Tomcaatt 1 year ago
At this moment, the founders rolled over in their graves.
HaleFire7 1 year ago
You all sound like a bunch of sore losers.
soulchild2008 1 year ago
I want punch Pelosi right in the FUCKING FACE!
The dumb bimbo BITCH!
blueblob4 1 year ago
is it me or does pelosi have a big set of tits ??
ward15employee 1 year ago
@ward15employee
Never noticed that but yes I suppose she does. I suppose she's trying to make up for her lack of brains with her figure (quite unsuccessfully I might add).
blueblob4 1 year ago
@BrickfilmAnimation Right! I mean sickness is God's judgement against the sinful right? So if we keep people from dying from preventable illnesses then...well...God just does not like that right!!!!
rocas511 1 year ago
Yeah, lets screw the American people. Make everyone buy crappy health insurance.
thefredsays 1 year ago
@thefredsays You have never even seen the bill have you?
rocas511 1 year ago
@rocas511 yeah I read it. It manadates people to buy private health insurance and subsidizes it. It also gives the "Secretary" ultimate authority on who to choose as accepted providers to get subsidies from the government. It also implements new taxes on the middle class with no tax hikes on the upper.
thefredsays 1 year ago
@thefredsays and the stock market read the bill as well, once public option got took out stocks in the health sector rallied. Why would a healthcare provider only finance the republicans when they can just as well donate to both sides of the debate...
thefredsays 1 year ago
I'd rather have "hope and change" than "abandon all hope that anything will ever change".
My Papa, who died 2 weeks before it passed, would have been so happy to see America finally moving into the 21st century.
MasterAdam100 1 year ago
@MasterAdam100 your time is coming faster with this new bill....
neverendingconversat 1 year ago
@neverendingconversat -Yup! And it's about time too!
MasterAdam100 1 year ago
yay the dick fit in
deadcell83 1 year ago
HA HA Dems just screwed themselves.
Way to go retards.
I guess they are our kings now.
Feed me and clothe me so I can sit here and bad mouth you for it.
I don't want to go to school or work when I get everything for free.
henrjohw 1 year ago
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dinairairbrushmakeup 1 year ago
OOOOOOHHHH SHIIIITTTTT!!!!!!! LMAO.......THEY PASSED THAT SHIT. well the worlds fucked anyway lol
uneek1991 1 year ago
you know what the government thinks of your health? look up GULF OF TONKIN 1964
Idolcruisefix 1 year ago
@Idolcruisefix I have no ideal why we were ever in Vietnam when one looks back on the history of it all. That is not the only blemish on U.S. Govt. There were natural aquifers in Vegas that could've been used as a water source had the govt not polluted it with radiological testing. That water source is still contaminated to this day thanks to ye 'ole govt.
shaithis45 1 year ago
@shaithis45 The Gulf of Tonkin is why we were in Vietnam, it is now known to be fake, another lie, like 911 and "health caRE"
Idolcruisefix 1 year ago
@Idolcruisefix this is really starting to play into the theory quite well of the military industrial complex the just keeps finding excuses to go to war because war is big business. And the history classes even in college failed to address the Vietnam War and just label it as a war against communism. And healthcare was nothing more than one big tax package with a hidden agenda. Govt doesn't have much left in the way of credibility or the way they've managed our tax dollars.
shaithis45 1 year ago
I CANT STAND THAT FUCKING BITCH.
SiiKxSKiiLLz 1 year ago
The majority of Americans were apposed to this bill but they defied the will of the people. Make them accountable, when you defy the will of the people it is like spitting their faces! The people have a voice and it should be heard or shall there be hell to pay! This violates the basic principles in which our country was formed. What else will they defy our will on? Vote them out in 2010 and in 2012
timefordifference 1 year ago
@timefordifference Actually, 55% of Americans are FOR Health Care Reform, & last time I checked, 55% IS the majority, which means the majority of Americans are FOR the Health Care Bill. Nice try.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat The Day of the vote, I believe the polls showed 50% apposed the bill as it was written; most wanted it tabled and fixed. 10 % undecided and 40% approved the passage.
timefordifference 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Punish success, reward failure! Change for the WORST! Pray for HOPE!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes Yes, wasting millions of Tax dollars on an unsuccessful pointless war in Iraq makes total sense. Every successful developed nation offers a socialism health care program to it's citizens, so if it wasn't successful, then those countries wouldn't be doing it. Smart countries learn from the success of others, NOT start pointless wars for oil.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
damn...I forgot why we are supposed to hate them gays and the blacks and the jews. It does create energy but it is so blatantly obvious a manipulatory tactic that I can't credit how anyone could be fooled.
Some of these people hate and want to hurt others...why?
bongfodder 1 year ago
yeah you said. it sure bring out the worst in me. im pretty nice till i read some of this garbage on utube. i should realize these goofs are all fired up by rush and sara and glenn and it gives them some sick sense of empowerment. did i get that right????
smoothjill09 1 year ago 2
@smoothjill09 what would make that right?
bongfodder 1 year ago
sad
Hasnuttu 1 year ago
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As a soldier, I find it pretty amazing that Republicans are making such a fuss over being forced to purchase health insurance because it "infringes their freedom." Why weren't any of you raising a fuss when Bush announced that he was going to infringe on soldiers' contracts by implementing his "stop loss" policy so he could wage his pointless war in Iraq? Why do you complain about costs associated with Obama's plan but spending trillions in Iraq was acceptable? hypocrites
fooschnikens 1 year ago
the so called government that you all fear
consist of mega Corporations that have control of this country they own and have bought out senators and lobbist who do there dirty work for them. Get over it there is no such thing as "We the People" that no longer exists. Too many Me's out there.
stacker711 1 year ago
"So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause."
Falcon8605 1 year ago
We still have the right to bear arms - lets join together and remove this government - REVOLUTION!
Towgnr14 1 year ago
robbery,and death panels and an aspirin for a heart attack.. total takeoverwell now they got our healthcare, they have given the IRS new powers to spy on us biweekly and everytime we get paid to garnish our wages and take our bankaccts.nothing more than huge
automa741 1 year ago
Geez. The repubs are bad losers....a bunch of white Christian heterosexual males who are always used to getting things THEIR way! Sorry, boys, those days are OVER. Women, gays, blacks, latinos, and Jews have demanded an won a place at the table. Get over it! This is EVERYBODY'S country, not just yours!
billyboylb 1 year ago
don't be fooled, a lot of those republicans are homosexuals too. remember tap tap on the bathroom floor?
AveolarD 1 year ago
@AveolarD But the majority are not and those who tap tap on the floor are usually not out and are self-loathing, unlike those of us who are out and pushing the issues.
billyboylb 1 year ago
hey, Republicans the Cycle of Change is on
it's way and no amount of Money, Power and
Lies can stop it !!!
stacker711 1 year ago
you brainless piece of shit
Spectatio 1 year ago
I love this heath care bill so much I use it as toilet paper now.
blt40 1 year ago
letting insurance companies drop you because of pre existing medical conditions seems un-american to me.....
ryondface 1 year ago
Hey pig, keep believing that liberal actions are what we need. BUSH kept us safe after 9-11. I don't remember you saving this GOD blessed nation. He doesn't shake hands with dick- tators like your pres. Plus, the war has kept you from death. Right? FUCK OFF!!!!
ultraconservrepub 1 year ago
Too bad Bush couldn't STOP 9-11 from happening in the 1st place. If you want to talk about a DICKtator, Bush banned potentially life saving stem cell researched, & stopped the legalization of marijuana even after the voters approved it. & don't get me started on 'No child left behind'. If this country was really god blessed, then unemployment, divorce, & the uninsured wouldn't be so high. If anything the war has CAUSED death: 104,000 civilian casualties.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat hey you idiot, Obama is continuing the wars and torture and secret prisons, he is more of a criminal then Bush and that takes alot of doing
cbat36 1 year ago
You LIE you republican dog!
Obama is a more than competent President that stands for the american people. he doesnt have a deceptive bone in his body. you're too embarassed to admit that your party is a failure so you resort to smearing Obama who is more Presidential than the two bushes AND reagan combined becuz all three were fucks ups. the more you defend bush the worse you and your party look
reaganomics = FAILURE
Piglatinsuperstar 1 year ago
And who started the war? BUSH. How many people have died in the war? Over 104,000 CIVILIAN Casualties,and that doesn't include troops killed. Why did we go to war with Iraq? OIL. Without oil,the big oil companies would all plummet to hell, & THAT us what Republicans care most abort: Corporations & the interests of the upper class. Democrats actually care about the citizens of America. Republicans call war vets "heroes" yet they dont give a crap if those vets can afford to survive or not.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@cbat36 & we are not at war with Afghanistan, we are send troops to protect the Afghan people, who are being terrorized by the Taliban. If you want to stop terrorism, then what are you supposed to do with terrorist other then torture them for information, & to imprison them? We should let terrorist roam free?
The whole time we were in Iraq,we didn't even find any nuclear weapons,what the hell?
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
nothing republicans do ever seems to work including no child left behind
Teachers tell me the program is a failure so that's another problem Obama has to fix
Even Bush's appointed head of the EPA Christine Todd Whitman fucked up like Bush, telling first responder workers they could go back to the 911 site-that it was safe to breathe the smoke and fumes
naturally, they're dying now
and if you ask me, the more republicans and tea baggers complain, the more it pleases me
Piglatinsuperstar 1 year ago
you have to have actually gotten something accomplished and this is the problem with republi-cants; they havent done anything so they have problems getting elected
the only things republi-cants are noted for is creating massive deficits, phony wars that waste taxpayer money, and mishandling disasters here at home, not to mention creating depressions that leave millions of victims out on the street
See that vid of Bush shaking hands with a haitian then wiping his hand on clinton's shirt?
Piglatinsuperstar 1 year ago 2
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Congrats! Social Security will pay out more this year than they will take in. This was not suppose to happen until 2016. Millions of Americans have lost everything we own for one reason - we lost our jobs. While we pleaded with you to work with the private sector to find ways to create jobs, you ignored us - you endlessly repeated HC sob stories. You were heck bent on "Making History" by passing Health Care rather than concentrating on what we really want- A JOB!!!! You must be so proud.
dmpstrdivr 1 year ago
that's the ticket to separate the chaff from the grain.Let's see a list of the dirty 39.
bongfodder 1 year ago
Obama's "BIG FUCKING DEAL"!!!!! Thanks JOE! LOL!
Let me know where to report when the war begins.
flyboymd82 1 year ago
god damn democrats are traitors and need to be voted out, taking away our choice of healthcare providers this is fascism
cbat36 1 year ago
wow look at all those pissed republicans!
Piglatinsuperstar 1 year ago
@cbat36 They're not taking anything away,you are still more then welcome to choose private healthcare, but theres also going to be a Public option for people who can't afford private healthcare. If Faschism means caring about the people of your nation who are less fortunate, then so be it. Only a good government would care about the well being of it's people.
If you want to talk about taking things away, the republicants did that, taking away peoples rights that is.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
Hey placid, take me on! Colorado? Is it because they are mostly white like me? Interesting! I'm waiting!
ultraconservrepub 1 year ago
Placid shit, take me on! Colorado? Are they mostly white like me? Is that where your anger comes from? Interesting. I'm waiting!
ultraconservrepub 1 year ago
To the park place fag, you have no kids, you are a minority, spend money on rims and clothes and sound equip., no good job that offers goog HC and listens to hip hop-rap crap all day. OR-- are you just f'n stupid?
ultraconservrepub 1 year ago 2
it's time for southern governors to hold a secret meeting
travis70359 1 year ago 3
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MONEY,MONEY,MONEY Thats what its about folks.Alot people stand to get rich from this.Why we go tubes!2012 we are gonna find out what is coming and it ain't the end of the world,but new world order.Kings and Qweens rule again mabey not in the same matter and style,but the same rules we are to be the Peasants in the new world.its to control and rule us more easily.Are United States Constitution is just a piece of paper anymore.why do we take this we need to stand together and fight once again!!
Muddcrazy 1 year ago
Democrats can rot in hell.
rugger8541 1 year ago
Somebody please give Obama a blow job so we can impeach him already
AlliesStrike1944 1 year ago
Ever wonder why Democrat's are so willing to lay their jobs on the line just to pass socialized medicine? They are banking on their next burning of the Flag, Legalization of 11 Million Illegal Trespassers! This is their re- election insurance plan. Loyalty to boarder crashers. When the tyrant Obama wins a re-election under the power of a flood of illegal voters, that's when the levy will break and good Americans will have no choice but to take up arms in their own defense! Change for the Worst!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes This new health care option is only for US citizens,NOT illegal immigrants,so their goes your theory.And illegals are already getting free healthcare, right now whenever someone can't afford an emergency room visit, the taxpayers are the ones splitting the bill. Under the new policy, EVERYONE will be able to afford health care,unless you're illegal that is.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Put on your reading glasses DUMB DUMB, nobody said illegals are getting health care, besides they already have it, it's called the ER.
Also DUMB DUMB, how may bills pass that aren't changed? That's the Beauty of Government, once hey have the power and control, they slowly make it what ever the want or in Oama's case it could totally change over night. I'm glad you are so proud and trusting of the many efficient Government programs that really deliver with excellence! DUMB, DUMB
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes Personal attacks & name calling are what DUMB people do because they can't come up with a good argument, & name calling is more your thing & a republican thing), not mine.
yes, because "DUMB DUMB" Bushes programs such as "No child left behind" were so Excellent!
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Thanks for blaming the Republican party for name calling.
What a relief, for a minute I was feeling like an individual. Thanks for reminding me that I'm just another one of them rotten eggs in a basket with the rest of them.
It's similar to Obama Care, every one is the same, just a bunch of farm animals on Uncle Sam's farm. Old OBama Had a Farm E I E I O.
FutureTimes 1 year ago
I don't need to blame anyone, It's the Republicants that are giving Democrats death treats and calling them names, as if it's going to accomplish anything.
& "freedom & justice for all" means EVERYONE is equal, & NO ONE is better then another. Too bad Bush forgot about this when he tried to take peoples rights away. Obama is trying to save lives& help those that are less fortunate. Bush sent thousands to Iraq to be killed for no reason. THAT is the difference.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat I hope you get that other eye fixed soon, this sort of thing is human nature and happens left , right , black whites. Any group in the world that feels offended will have outspoken idiots. I don't expect you to understand this, you can't even grasp the unfairness of Obama Care.
FutureTimes 1 year ago
EVERYONE will now be able to get health care, what is so unfair about that? If you don't want public health care, you can either get your own private care or move to Mexico. "Fairness" means EVERYONE is equal & has access to all the same benefits & rights, @futuretimes which is what health care is going to be. According to republicans, health care should only be for rich people who can afford it, & THAT is not fair. The words "Fair" & "Republican" don't belong in the same sentence.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
this is why the republicans love to fight for the right to life. then twenty years later they can send those babies off to war TO DIE> republicans CAN BE extremely evil. bush jr,,,,reagan. matter of fact reagan already had alzheimer's during his two terms. scarey aint it? ofcorse bush jr, he is just plain rotton spoiled and absolutely rude and STUPID.he's proof that anyone can become president. where were all these clowns when he was breaking all kinds of laws? denial is such a sickness.
smoothjill09 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Got it! Take more money from my check higher taxes to pay for someone who refuses to get out of bed is fair. You are pure Genius! So next time you buy a new car you should find someone less fortunate who also needs a new car and buy it for them or not buy yours until you can do so. Sure you have no problem with this or you would be what's called a hypocrite. It's not fair for America to have free health care and not Ethiopia. If you disagree then you're and American Supremest Nazi.
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes What does lazy people have to do with health care? Have you not realized that many people without health care either have jobs that don't provide them health care, or can't find a job with good health care since jobs are so scarce due to the recession? Who started the recession? Republicans
Considering that you have to pay TAXES when you by a new car, I don't see what that has to do with anything. All taxes go to help people, should we not pay taxes at all?
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Let's not be American Supremest. So being an American automatically make you worthy, gives you the right to have? What about better harder working people in other Countries? Are they the only ones worthy of being the have nots?
Its good that everyone is worthy of your hard earned money. Have you heard of ER or food banks? It works for people willing to use it. Nobody can leagaly be turned away from ER. Ask the illegals, they go there for a cough. You sound like a Supremest to me.
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes The US doesn't run the whole world, & it put to those countries what they want to do with their "hard working" citizens. In fact, we are already giving health care to illegal immigrants. People in other nations don't pay American taxes like what American citizens do, so how would the US giving free health care to a foreign nation be justified?
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Only t we deserve free handouts the rest of the world is not worthy in the eye of the Liberal American Supremest.
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes Canada has free health care, does that mean Canada should have to give all Americans free health care, even though we are not Canadian Citizens, we don't live or work in Canada, and we don't pay Canadian taxes? You really can't think of ANY real reasoning or logic can you?
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@FutureTimes Now that you've brought it up, Tax payers are already paying for Health Care for people who visit the ER but can't afford it. Should the ER be allowed to let someone die just because they can't afford to pay? No? Then you are being a Socialist too.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Uncle Sam loves the Conformist in you!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes Uncle Sam WANTS YOU to join the US Army. Who sent the army to Iraq to get slaughtered just so that his family's oil businesses could keep making a profit? BUSH, a Republican't. Republican'ts are the conformist: They conform to what big evil corporations and businesses want.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat I think the same shit is going on in Afghanistan. How long have we been in these countries for. A former trucker I once new obvioulsy knew what he was talking about when he said Iraq was a war for oil. All that money spent on wars could've gone towards healthcare. Money well spent or should I say mismanaged by our govt and the taxpayers don't have a say yet are duped everytime at the polls.
shaithis45 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat and (not taking a side, here, just pointing out funny observations) I'm seeing just about as bad propaganda as what Fox News typically gives about the Democrats. What annoys me about politics today is that when someone calls out someone else for doing something they view is wrong, they're doing the exact same type of wrong thing.
boilers2010 1 year ago
@boilers2010 Yes, what you are seeing is called "Hypocrisy" it's when someone does something which they claim to be against. Republicans have eared the nickname "Republican'ts" for being extremely hypocritical. Republican'ts claim to represent family values yet go off to do things like sleep with male prostitutes, cheat on their wives, murder, rape & molest children, have their teenage daughter get pregnant, & so forth. The Republican't moto: "Do as I say, not as I do".
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Ahh the inferiority complex sets in. While I make observations, you deem it necessary to define words to me that I just got done exemplefying. I guess it just sounds so much better when you say it... So now back to my point: both sides are guilty of this, yes. I get that. Actually, that's what I was saying to begin with. So essentially, you proved my point for me with your comment.
boilers2010 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat (cont'd) Now for those who aren't complete morons, please quit with the annoying political finger pointing. I'm serious. It is getting really old and useless.
boilers2010 1 year ago
@boilers2010 Well, you're only annoyed by what I have to say because it's true. Clearly, the truth offends more people then lies.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat I'm not denying that I'm annoyed by Republican hypocracy. However, I'm trying to point out that neither party is hypocracy-free (for lack of better term), and both parties do a considerable amount of finger-pointing and name calling. I'm getting at the fact that if you're going to criticize any party (Democrats, Libertarians, Republicans, etc.), make sure you aren't doing what you criticize them for.
boilers2010 1 year ago
@boilers2010 Democrats aren't the one's trying to take peoples rights away, like same sex marriage, the right for a woman to choose, the right for anyone to have access to affordable health care, etc. Rep.s are against killing unborn babies, yet they are all for sending troops to Iraq to be killed. There was just a Rep.S Senator in CA who voted against gay marriage yet was caught driving drunk after leaving a gay club with another man. Im not pointing fingers, I'm stating facts.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat That's funny you say "there was just" (I'm really hoping that you mean pre-2008, because if you do, ignore this post). Currently, both Californian Senators are Democratic females. Nice try.
boilers2010 1 year ago
@boilers2010 California has 40 State senators, not just 2. The one I'm talking about is Roy Ashburn, who is republican and voted against gay rights and gay marriage, yet was caught this year in March leaving a gay club with another man, & driving drunk, & was given a DUI. He has since come out of the closet. Talk about hypocrisy.
Perhaps you should study a bit more on politics.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Sorry, I misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about California's US Senators, which is why I was confused. I totally agree that is a hypocritical practice, and I am annoyed that a member of a party which has ideals that I strongly agree with (Christian, conservative morals along with smaller government) has displayed such behavior. I'm sure, though, that we could find examples of this in every party if we tried to (which is part of my point).
boilers2010 1 year ago
@boilers2010 I can mention plenty of Hypocritical things Rep.s do, yet how many hypocritical things to Democrats to? When a Democrat cheats on his wife, it's not like he was endorsing "Conservative Family Values" in the 1st place, however when a Republican does it, he is being 100% Hypocritical, which many rep.s have done.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat So by stating facts, I'm assuming "Republican't" is the actual name of a political party? Goodness, man. Stick with the issue. I mean for crying out loud, you're so sidetracked, you're getting me sidetracked! I'm not here to debate politics, because I could do that all day long, waste a bunch of time, and accomplish nothing.
boilers2010 1 year ago
@FutureTimes I'm a Supremacist? Republicans were the ones who didn't want blacks, or women to have equal rights, they are the one who don't want gays to have the right of marriage, They don't want women to have the right to an abortion, and they don't want poor people to have affordable health care. Republicans are the true Supremacist. Nice try.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat You must get your education from the Chavez re-write the history history. It's obvious you are no white cat, More logic, less emotion please.
I'm convinced!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes I've given you nothing but logic, You've only puked out illogical options,& you've answered none of my Questions. Aren't 911, Policing, Fire Departments & Public School all socialism? If they are, then how are they bad? People can get an education or get help during an emergency due to public tax dollars. That's what health care is going to do, aid people during an emergency. It's worked in over 22 countries, why would the US be an different?
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@FutureTimes 911, public schools, policing, fire depts. etc are all funded by tax dollars and are used to help people when they are in need, yet YOU are not complaining about those things. Aren't all those things 'Socialism'? If you're ok with publicly funded schools & 911 yet, not health care, then YOU are the hypocrite.
Its not fair for 22 countries to have free health care but not America, whats your point? Nazis didnt care about people, just like Republicans.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Bush launched this mess, Obama is his brain child. Hating Bush doesn't make Obama great!. The umbilical cord of Obama. Be a man and stop feeling sorry for people. Typical liberals value what other countries do & point the finger at the US for every conflict in the world. All the while you give a pass to other Countries for their wrong doing. Rather than growing balls and leaving to a Country you prefer, you choose to change what generations have loved for hundreds of years pal!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes If it werent for change, women still wouldnt be able to vote for own property, Blacks would still have to sit at the back of the bus, & Alcohol would still be illegal. Republicans shun change, but take advantage of it when it happens. If it werent for the womens right movements, no women would be in a position of power, which is very hypocritical for female republicans who run for senator, governor, or even president. Women couldnt vote until THAT was changed
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat Depends on the change, you use the word change loosely like it always equates to a good outcome. This is similar to how you use of the word progressive.
The Charles Mason family and the Heavens gate cult considered themselves progressives. They also wanted change!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes The US is causing many conflicts in the world, because if it weren't, then 9-11 wouldn't have happened. And the whole mess with OIL is the US's fault, as well as China's. Republicans think communism is so bad, yet were are doing business with china, even allowing genocide to happen in Rwanda just so that China can have it's oil. Why did we go to Iraq? So the US can get the oil that's their, THAT'S why.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@ofelixdacat We must start wars and kill for oil. It is the life blood of our country and our children. Get the OIL! Get the OIL! Just think how much health care could be provided if we had all the oil we need. Without oil you and your children would starve to death. If our reserve was gone and zero coming in the country, you would be screaming blood for oil as you are days from starvation! Every aspect of our nation relies on oil from planting, to harvest, to transport. Oil is bad huh? Get it!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
@FutureTimes Why do we need oil? SO that the gigantic oil companies can keep profiting, which is what Republicans what, for Giant corporations and big businesses do be able to rip people off & make big bucks, since THAT is the American way, according to most republicans. In Fact BUSH'S family owns oil companies, which is why we invaded Iraq, to ensure that is family fortune wouldn't go dry, & would continue to have a never ending supply of oil to rip Americans off with unregulated prices.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
@FutureTimes Why else do we need oil? To fuel our Hummers & make Plastic. Heaven forbid that Americas would ever resort to better fuel alternatives & which are better for the environment & use less Gas, such as Electric vehicles & Hybrids, OH NO! What would we ever do if those big oil corporations stop making a profit by ripping people off? What would we do if car manufactures couldn't sell gas guzzling cars? Oil makes gas & plastic: two things which BAD for the environment.
ofelixdacat 1 year ago
Wonder why Democrat's are so willing to lay their jobs on the line just to pass socialized medicine? They are banking on their next burning of the Flag, legalization of 11 million Illegal trespassers. This is their re- election insurance plan. That's right folks, our A-wall Government has more loyalty to boarder crashers than their own American citizens.
God Save America!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
I hope you all know that are generation, that is still in school will have to pay for all this shit, and all the baby boomers will be dead and gone, knowing they are making are lives suck
MrSnowmayne101 1 year ago
I love it. The Republicans want to repeal this bill so that a whole ton of young voters can to again be ineligible to be on their parents' insurance plans? And they want to go back to allowing health insurers to commit rescission of policyholders at any time? And go back
to allowing health insurers to deny coverage to anyone, including children, based on pre-existing conditions. Good luck running on that platform in the fall!
lifeandfaith 1 year ago
you're damn right republicans want to repeal this. if people are SOOOOO destitute to get healtcare let them apply for medicaide rather than ruining our entire system.
rugger8541 1 year ago
May someone kill these fuckers
TheTubeTerrorist 1 year ago
@TheTubeTerrorist Right on bro, fuck em.
cottonceena 1 year ago
Stop arguing. Join the Tea Party movement, and lets get organized. November will go down in the History Books.
jd426999 1 year ago
U guys need to stop arguing with these LOONEY LIBS. We need to get mobilized and REMOVE everyone who voted for this Bill in NOVEMBER. THATS where the energy needs to be focused 100%
Spread the word, and get mobilized early to get out and VOTE THESE BASTARDS OUT . Thats the FIRST step in getting this REVERSED. STOP arguing with INSANE people. They have shown us their true colors. Its time to take back this country., either that or MOVE OUT and let it CRUMBLE. We will NOT pay for this SHIT.
jd426999 1 year ago
ok, so the REPBLICAN party sucks, and the DEMOCRATS sucks as well.............. forget it, both parties don't work. I say, kick ALL OF THEM out the curve and bring in some independents.
nobitanobi 1 year ago
A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
Thomas Jefferson
1iontyranny 1 year ago
The democracy will cease to exist
when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson
FutureTimes 1 year ago
That's why we have a democratic republic.
ParkPlace5677 1 year ago
I hope all the idiots that are happy with this enjoy paying for every illegal's that cross the border with a runny nose and an open hand.
The democrats are going to get wiped out over this, and they definitely deserve it for this travesty.
zTiamaTz 1 year ago
So just how do you recon you will be paying for an "illegal's runny nose" if they don't have health insurance? I am Canadian and only have health insurance in foreign countries like yours if I buy it. Just like you would need to buy insurance specifically if you traveled to my country. Your new health care bill is a step in the right direction but still a far cry from other developed countries in the world.
nfgillen 1 year ago
@zTiamaTz Yet they did not care.
Pelosi and Reid have approval ratings that would have made GW's ratings look good, and was even all the way back 08' too.
Pelosi's district is just as crazy as she is, and given that this was one long ideological push on her and others part, winning is the only objective, obviously.
mtb416 1 year ago
YOU LIE!
Don't you remember when Obama said that illegals wouldn't be provided free medical care under this bill? or were you too distracted by the uneducated, scumbag, freak that was yelling nonsense out for no good reason? You filthy traitor.
ParkPlace5677 1 year ago
@ParkPlace5677
Like I trust anything Obama says. He's a fucking liberal. There will be no second term.
All they care about is themselves, most people didn't want this fucking health care scam. They voted for it anyway, so don't be surprised when they get voted out next. Good riddance.
zTiamaTz 1 year ago 3
That's what you said the first time but what's to keep people like me from voting him in a sceond time?
You can't stop us
Piglatinsuperstar 1 year ago
@Piglatinsuperstar
Who is 'people like you' and 'us?'
Liberals didn't vote for Obama because of his ideas. They voted for him because of him being black and his liberal leanings.
The rest voted for him because they didn't like Bush and McCain was a weak candidate. Not because they cared about what he had to say either.
As I said before, there will be no second term and most, if not all the democrats that voted for the health care scam will get voted out.
zTiamaTz 1 year ago
SHIT PLACE
it is written into the bill in such a manner that we will be forced to pay health care for all of mexico you stammering stupid fuck. all they have to do is come here and they get priority over your stupid ass. so bend over dumbass.
Spectatio 1 year ago
thats happening now......if u dont feel like paying 4 an illegal aliens medical bill,then stop paying your taxes.......
ryondface 1 year ago
what a fucking nightmare again.....
handonrip 1 year ago
what a fucking nightmare!
handonrip 1 year ago
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!! Fuckity Fuck Fuck!!!! ....got a little carried away there but seriously...WTF, first we take away freedom of speech, get $12T in debt, now we're spending billions on a healthcare bill most American's don't want...next is Immigration Reformation and Gun Control......man Republican/Democrat idgaf I want someone who can actually take back America and make it right again.
stoutmeister91 1 year ago
@stoutmeister91 Wow I love it when you hicks get angry. Hadn't felt this happy in ages. Pack back is a bitch as they say.
chrisfo19 1 year ago
Why don't you just get the hell out of America? Move someplace the hell elose you traitor. Trust me, nobody is gonna miss you retarded, home schooled, bible thumping freaks. NOBODY. You are all losers. Unmotivated, scumbag traitors. Just plain losers.
ParkPlace5677 1 year ago
@ParkPlace5677 , Yea and you want the government to hand everything to you on a silver plater. As they say, whoever lets you use something, they can just as easily take it away. That's whats going to happen here with other things besides healthcare(welfare, etc.)...I mean look at Canada, they've had this healthcare passed long before us and their government controls what medicines you get and surgeries and so on and it's bad and this is exactly whats going to happen here in this country.
stoutmeister91 1 year ago
I agree. These liberals should stop all their complaining and pay their $800/month bill! It's only money
Fuck it, who needs adequate coverage?
It's not whether we have affordable health insurance that matters. The real issue is Government interfering with our lives and depriving us of choices
and making choices is infinitely more valuable than the cost of a human life!
Piglatinsuperstar 1 year ago
@Piglatinsuperstar Not to mention we have machines that PRINT money, mhmmm that seems a little odd
To add onto your comment about choices, they really are valuable when we have to freedom to do so..thats why America was a great country, but then we let certain people get in and they wanna either kiss up to other countries or they want control or both. This November coming up, lets slow down the process of total government take over.
stoutmeister91 1 year ago
Dont you mean slow PROGRESS?
I was bsing you retards
8 years of doing nothing was more than enough. if you're a republican and stand for doing nothing that's fine but I for one think this country could stand for some much needed improvements
as for the tea baggers, no one even respects them including the republicans who just exploit their stupidty in order to enflame the masses and are being used in the same way as the evangelicals
i see no reason to give republicans our votes.
Piglatinsuperstar 1 year ago
@Piglatinsuperstar I don't give a shit about either party....Republican/Democrat, they've both done things good and bad....I'm all about the candidates view and what they will do for the country and so far we have added one more thing for the government to interfere with our lives'. I'm well aware of what the Republican's did the last 8 years and I'm not too fond of it either, its the fact that we have those kind of people in the party, not the party name itself.
stoutmeister91 1 year ago
@Piglatinsuperstar The government interfering with our lives and depriving us of choices. Conservatives are champions at that with gay marriage and abortion.
billyboylb 1 year ago
I dont like republicans!!
I dont like the way they act. I dont like the way they look, do their hair. I dont like the way they smell either. Their women SUCK in bed too! they're too fucking stiff and too afraid to wiggle it or let out so much as a groan
But most of all, they suck when it comes to running any sort of operation and like their representatives, cant balance a budget for shit
and boy how those mother fuckers lie!!
Piglatinsuperstar 1 year ago
lol, sorry dude, you guys are about to be killed. you will die.
nVei06 1 year ago
Faux News is talking about fighting this in court. I suppose they want that joke of a supreme court to steal them a victory that they cant win at the ballot box. Hmm. Where have I heard that before.
ParkPlace5677 1 year ago
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Feathers here, Feathers there....Feathers everywhere...!!
It's republicans eating CROW...!!
PERIZ99 1 year ago
America is F*CKED!!!!
2012 is the end of the world!!!
AHHHHH!!!!
GermanSniper9 1 year ago
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The niggers and mexicans want a free ride in our society, on the backs of those (like myself) who are rich. Well, go to hell. White people are SICK and TIRED of paying for you stupid morons who don't know how to stop breeding like aids infested rats and roaches!
TeaPartyPatroit 1 year ago
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In Private Health Care you are a business opportunity and always welcomed for treatment.
In Obama Care you are evaluated and receive treatment based on value of investment. It similar to a good stock or a bad stock that might die. If the Doc says your chances are 20%, the Obama Health Care
Team says "Not worth the investment, halt
all further treatment" It's a no brainer but
most liberals have less than no brain so they don't get it! Fact the Gov refused it for themselves. U Dumb Ass Libs!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
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In Private Health Care you are welcomed as a business opportunity therefore your business is always welcome.
In Obama Care you are evaluated and receive treatment based on if you are worth investing in similar to a good stock or bad stock that might die. If the Doc says your chances are 20%, the Obama Health Care
Team says "Not worth the investment, halt
all further treatment" It's a no brainer but
most liberals have less than no brain so they won't get it!
FutureTimes 1 year ago
GOD help us all
dapfitz5 1 year ago 2
united slaves of america lives on.
jcline87 1 year ago 2
Haha I'm Australian and I really dont give a shit but I realized Democrats really are just niggers and faggots. If you notice, all the right wingers are always the ones with the vicious comments in these types of debates. The niggers and faggots are too stupid or pussy to fight back against them. xD Good show fucking Americunts.
AussieDave09 1 year ago