I think Aramnau has the potential to do a +210 snatch but I am not too sure about doing a +260 cnj. We really need a monster who can do over 260kgs like it is nothing. No one has approached Hossein in the cnj. I was hoping for Steiner but it seems that he topped at the 2008 Olympics. Just thinking out loud, I would love to see someone pulverising the cnj record from Hossein. IMO, Hossein Rezazadeh could have easily done a 220 snatch and 270 cnj and I seriously cannot see anyone now topping that.
@Rogelio22 what you got to keep in mind is that you will probably only see record get topped at Olympic games, that basically what these guys train around and they aim to peak at the games, that why at world champs there lifts tend to be so much less, Steiner was only 5-6kgs off and he is still young he could still do it. Aramnau well sky is the limit for that guy if he puts on 20kg he could be a absolute freak.
@freedomsoldier187 its not 'implying' anything it costs money to test and small scale meets probably don't want to bother and was more of an exhibition to show off there athletes. Guys like rybakov have been competing since he was a teen and has never failed a test so leave it at that. The best are the best due to hard work and genetics not drugs anyways. Your average gym is full of juicers and they couldn't even deadlift the weights these guys snatch.
@desembodic as far as lifting more weight they are a lot heavier here and pressure meet of olympic while having to wait and train at there gyms for weeks leading up to competition throws off some people. Its very common for guys to lift more weight in training and this is more of training type lift since close meet to home.
@freedomsoldier187 i'm sure even the very worst guys might.The worst guy in olympics 08 hit 115kg in the snatch at 85 kg he probably equally juicing as much as rybakov who snatched easily 185kg. The reason he is better is because he trains harder/smarter simple as that-genetics of course-. The reason they are lifting more here is because they are heavier and other reasons I mentioned. They definitely are not using like the soviet team was in 80's and the results show a big difference in total
@JacktheDaniels the comment was implying all these athletes juice well the guys who are doing that weight might also yet they don't put up the weights the best do. The best are the best due to hard work simple as that. The hw totals at last year worlds were nearly 40kg under what soviet guys were doing in the 80's despite huge improvements in restorative techniques, better equipment/bars, smarter training, legal supps ext. These guys train 3x a day for 10 years to get where they are.
40 kg might be a little exageration. The best total ever by taranenko was 210+266=476 kg total. 2008 Matthias Steiner 203+258=261. That is a 15 kg difference, not a 40 kg difference. Also, Rezazadeh was not that far off from Taraneko's totals in the 2000-2004 run that he had.
40 kg might be a little exageration. The best total ever by taranenko was 210+266=476 kg total. 2008 Matthias Steiner 203+258=461. That is a 15 kg difference, not a 40 kg difference. Also, Rezazadeh was not that far off from Taraneko's totals in the 2000-2004 run that he had.
@coachfears look at the current lifts from the world championships, also the majority of lifters are not that high like the best, where as during the soviet reign most of them were around that range. 30 years of progression you would expect a lot more improvement if everyone was juicing. Strength is the principal factor for success in weightlifting, but it is not the only one. Hard work, genetics, motivation and training methods are all an integral part in creating a world class athlete.
@freedomsoldier187 In the end haters gonna hate they are under strict testing and if they pass those tests its even playing field for the athletes. Many athletes do fail these tests 2 entire teams were disqualified in 08 olympics. in 80's lifters were juicing it was documented and not tested for and lifters still have not reached those totals despite 30 years of advances in training ext.
@c1fuzzles It doesn't count because world records must be set at International meets. The Chinese nationals are very strictly tested and unoffical world records are set there all the time. the Chinese records are higher than the World Records in many men's and women's classes.
He snatched great in Beijing (beat the nearest guy by 5kg), and set a world record in the total. His downfall was the same thing that it's always been: he couldn't hang with the big boys in the C&J. If he could C&J up there with Lu Yong he'd easily be one of the greatest 85er's ever.
I think that this competition here is not drug tested so they can afford to show up all loaded and thats why they lift more while on international competitions they have to clear up their body from banned substances
Why would they be more, arent they competing in their weightclass which is 85 and 105. I doubt that on the nationals they are compering on the higher weightclass because if they are they just might as well move on to this higher weightclass since they are good in there too.
i believe that rybakou was 89kgs and aramnau was 108
tod144: almost every international lifter weighes more in training then in comp so that they have more energy to recover from hard training. with these nationals being so close to the olympics, they probably didnt want to waste there energy cutting weight.
rybakou is a phenomenon his technique is perfect explosive and very strong rose more than the 105 kg on body weight ..191 kg are the lifters of the category of 105kg or 105 kg +
meh lets clarify this. NO AMOUNT OF STEROIDS *ALONE* can accomplish the feats these guys can pull off. What steroids allow you to do is train twice as hard. Alot of these lifters that train 5-6 days with multiple sessions in a day no doubt are using roids. I'm Not taking anything away from their accomplishment simply because everyone else is juicing and again NO AMOUNT OF ROIDS can make someone pull of those feats. it takes years of dedication and hard work to get to that level.
it would be silly to think that anyone who sets a world record isnt on some sort of cycle during the year. i just dont think its possible with out it, sure you can be a great lifter with out doping, but metaling at the olympics would be next to imposable without drugs. just because these guys arnt caught doesnt mean there clean.
my gosh you all are stupid assholes as well. HAMME WHATEVER DUDE YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OLY LIFTING B CUZ YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED IT AND BEEN EXPOSED TO THAT WORLD SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND MIND YOUR OWN MUTHAFUCKIN BUSINESS.
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And steroids won't do shit for your snatch, because snatch is 90% technique, so birdman, you can just shut your fucking mouth. Very mature comment as well.
it would be silly to think that anyone who sets a world record isnt on some sort of cycle during the year. i just dont think its possible with out it, sure you can be a great lifter with out doping, but metaling at the olympics would be next to imposable without drugs. just because these guys arnt caught doesnt mean there clean.
Rybakou snatches like a lifter who competes in the -105 kg category lol
trecuck 7 months ago
Good God when Aramanu pops up from his Clean the bar bounces almost over his head!
ptarleton 8 months ago
Good God when Aramanu pops up from his Clean the bar bounces over his head!
ptarleton 8 months ago
these guys are the best of the best watch their knees they go to parellel and arms are hella over the bar the technique is perfect
olympicweightlifter 1 year ago
I think Aramnau has the potential to do a +210 snatch but I am not too sure about doing a +260 cnj. We really need a monster who can do over 260kgs like it is nothing. No one has approached Hossein in the cnj. I was hoping for Steiner but it seems that he topped at the 2008 Olympics. Just thinking out loud, I would love to see someone pulverising the cnj record from Hossein. IMO, Hossein Rezazadeh could have easily done a 220 snatch and 270 cnj and I seriously cannot see anyone now topping that.
Rogelio22 1 year ago
@Rogelio22 what you got to keep in mind is that you will probably only see record get topped at Olympic games, that basically what these guys train around and they aim to peak at the games, that why at world champs there lifts tend to be so much less, Steiner was only 5-6kgs off and he is still young he could still do it. Aramnau well sky is the limit for that guy if he puts on 20kg he could be a absolute freak.
Militantcheese 1 year ago
whats scary is how EASY that 190kg lift looked
desembodic 1 year ago
If he goes super, he'll be quite the force to be reckoned with.
prsguitars92 1 year ago
How is it that Rybakou's snatch world record is only one kg less than that of 94kg category?
Tibetansareniggers 2 years ago
@Tibetansareniggers
Because Rybakou is one of the most talented athletes one the face of the Earth, that's how.
JacktheDaniels 1 year ago
Damn Aramnau did 4kgs more here than in the olympics
kamikazeCORP 2 years ago
Damn! 191 kg snatch from Rybakou and 240 CJ from Aramnau?!?!?
Crazy lifts. Those should be world records. They didn't count? Could anyone answer please . . .
c1fuzzles 2 years ago
It doesn't count because it wasn't a tested competition. Also, Andrei Aramnau was not weighing under 105kg at the competition.
iwilson1894 2 years ago
not "tested" is that implying these guys are on the gear most part of the year ?
that is so gay
freedomsoldier187 2 years ago
@freedomsoldier187 its not 'implying' anything it costs money to test and small scale meets probably don't want to bother and was more of an exhibition to show off there athletes. Guys like rybakov have been competing since he was a teen and has never failed a test so leave it at that. The best are the best due to hard work and genetics not drugs anyways. Your average gym is full of juicers and they couldn't even deadlift the weights these guys snatch.
desembodic 1 year ago
@desembodic as far as lifting more weight they are a lot heavier here and pressure meet of olympic while having to wait and train at there gyms for weeks leading up to competition throws off some people. Its very common for guys to lift more weight in training and this is more of training type lift since close meet to home.
desembodic 1 year ago
@desembodic shuddup, these guys are all on the gear, all of them are
freedomsoldier187 1 year ago
@freedomsoldier187 i'm sure even the very worst guys might.The worst guy in olympics 08 hit 115kg in the snatch at 85 kg he probably equally juicing as much as rybakov who snatched easily 185kg. The reason he is better is because he trains harder/smarter simple as that-genetics of course-. The reason they are lifting more here is because they are heavier and other reasons I mentioned. They definitely are not using like the soviet team was in 80's and the results show a big difference in total
desembodic 1 year ago
@desembodic
I dunno about that - 115kg snatch @ 85 kg bodyweight isn't that hard to achieve without drugs.
If someone needs to juice to achieve that, he probably picked the wrong sport.
JacktheDaniels 6 months ago
@JacktheDaniels
I don't mean to say that 115 kg snatch @ 85 sucks or anything, it's still a great display of power and speed.
I just think that any fairly athletic guy who sits well at 85 kg could get a 115 kg snatch with a few good years of training, and no drugs.
It certainly isn't international elite level type-stuff.
JacktheDaniels 6 months ago
@JacktheDaniels i agree. i know a couple of kids 16-19 years old even in lighter classes who can snatch that on a regular basis
jakebrigand 6 months ago
@JacktheDaniels the comment was implying all these athletes juice well the guys who are doing that weight might also yet they don't put up the weights the best do. The best are the best due to hard work simple as that. The hw totals at last year worlds were nearly 40kg under what soviet guys were doing in the 80's despite huge improvements in restorative techniques, better equipment/bars, smarter training, legal supps ext. These guys train 3x a day for 10 years to get where they are.
desembodic 6 months ago
@desembodic
I still doubt that an 85er who can only manage 115 kg is juicing. If he is... that's just sad.
JacktheDaniels 6 months ago
40 kg might be a little exageration. The best total ever by taranenko was 210+266=476 kg total. 2008 Matthias Steiner 203+258=261. That is a 15 kg difference, not a 40 kg difference. Also, Rezazadeh was not that far off from Taraneko's totals in the 2000-2004 run that he had.
coachfears 5 months ago
40 kg might be a little exageration. The best total ever by taranenko was 210+266=476 kg total. 2008 Matthias Steiner 203+258=461. That is a 15 kg difference, not a 40 kg difference. Also, Rezazadeh was not that far off from Taraneko's totals in the 2000-2004 run that he had.
coachfears 5 months ago
@coachfears look at the current lifts from the world championships, also the majority of lifters are not that high like the best, where as during the soviet reign most of them were around that range. 30 years of progression you would expect a lot more improvement if everyone was juicing. Strength is the principal factor for success in weightlifting, but it is not the only one. Hard work, genetics, motivation and training methods are all an integral part in creating a world class athlete.
desembodic 5 months ago
@freedomsoldier187 In the end haters gonna hate they are under strict testing and if they pass those tests its even playing field for the athletes. Many athletes do fail these tests 2 entire teams were disqualified in 08 olympics. in 80's lifters were juicing it was documented and not tested for and lifters still have not reached those totals despite 30 years of advances in training ext.
desembodic 1 year ago
@desembodic go talk to a coach that has been around at olympic level, because you obviously have no fucking idea what your on about.
freedomsoldier187 7 months ago
what did he weight then??
Duffman89detmig 2 years ago
@c1fuzzles I think rybakouv did 193 o4 194 as a junior in snatch
desembodic 1 year ago
@c1fuzzles It doesn't count because world records must be set at International meets. The Chinese nationals are very strictly tested and unoffical world records are set there all the time. the Chinese records are higher than the World Records in many men's and women's classes.
powmongo 10 months ago
his snatches are unbelievable. what happened to him in beijing ?
chadcite 2 years ago
@chadcite
He snatched great in Beijing (beat the nearest guy by 5kg), and set a world record in the total. His downfall was the same thing that it's always been: he couldn't hang with the big boys in the C&J. If he could C&J up there with Lu Yong he'd easily be one of the greatest 85er's ever.
JacktheDaniels 1 year ago
how tail is aramnau
TABK2 2 years ago
do u know that flyweight guy? is he 56 kg ?!!
mikeyburger1 2 years ago
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decko1412 2 years ago
whos the flyweight?
mikeyburger1 2 years ago
the flyweight is VITALIY DERBENYEV
decko1412 2 years ago
haha ye thanks i know now, THIS LIFTING IS ABSOLUTELY SUPERB, DOES ANYONE KNOW RYBAKOV AND ARAMANU'S bodyweights here??
mikeyburger1 2 years ago
I read somewhere rybakov was 89kg here.
Also heard rumors that aramnau is going to be a SHW in the future. Anyone can confirm?
226frank 2 years ago
@226frank I think that would be odd since his quite a short lifter. But I guess they know it better if he can be even better as a superheavy.
epaluoma 1 year ago
that was impressive, thanks for vid ian!
mikeyburger1 2 years ago
amazing amazing amazing stuff iwilson thanks a lot!!!!! Hey whos the 4th Guy, and the 3rd Guy has come on loads, is this after olympic games???!
Mikeyburger3 2 years ago
Somebody knows the third guy? He's so quick and he's got a very good technique, who is he? What category?
coche93 2 years ago
I think that this competition here is not drug tested so they can afford to show up all loaded and thats why they lift more while on international competitions they have to clear up their body from banned substances
tod144 2 years ago
Everything very impressive. I dont want to judge it down but keep in mind that these guys were much heavier there than in international competitions.
Rybakou (1st guy) is 85kg division but had I guess 90 or more kg there.
Aramnau (2nd guy) is 105kg division but here I guess 110-115.
Impressive though.
Polyhistor23 2 years ago
It seems like Rybakou could be an extremely competitive 94. Aramnau might be a bit too short for SHW, though.
newfangle1 2 years ago
good logic! Rybakou has just become more awesome recenrtly, hes one of the most interesting lifters as im not sure where he'll stopp!
mikeyburger1 2 years ago
Rybakou was 94kg there. SO wasnt it a new WR in 94kg division or are these kind of competitions unofficial?
Polyhistor23 2 years ago
Why would they be more, arent they competing in their weightclass which is 85 and 105. I doubt that on the nationals they are compering on the higher weightclass because if they are they just might as well move on to this higher weightclass since they are good in there too.
tod144 2 years ago
i believe that rybakou was 89kgs and aramnau was 108
tod144: almost every international lifter weighes more in training then in comp so that they have more energy to recover from hard training. with these nationals being so close to the olympics, they probably didnt want to waste there energy cutting weight.
chiefwr88 2 years ago
Absolutely mindblowing.
226frank 2 years ago
rybakou is a phenomenon his technique is perfect explosive and very strong rose more than the 105 kg on body weight ..191 kg are the lifters of the category of 105kg or 105 kg +
fuerzabruta88 3 years ago
andrei has a shin scraping technique and uses his back too much if you guys notice
trance4mation 3 years ago
which andrei are you referring to? rybakou or aramnau?
bunkwhack 2 years ago
perhaps, but he compensates by holding his body rock solid
sappermarine 2 years ago
Only one I know is Andrei can someon name other lifters in this video?
Skullknight 3 years ago
Who in the world is the Belarus coach? Can someone please reply to my question?
These guys are ....yipes! I mean, I've seen the Chinese train, but these guys are definitely good comparisons.
kirksman 3 years ago
meh lets clarify this. NO AMOUNT OF STEROIDS *ALONE* can accomplish the feats these guys can pull off. What steroids allow you to do is train twice as hard. Alot of these lifters that train 5-6 days with multiple sessions in a day no doubt are using roids. I'm Not taking anything away from their accomplishment simply because everyone else is juicing and again NO AMOUNT OF ROIDS can make someone pull of those feats. it takes years of dedication and hard work to get to that level.
chadcite 3 years ago
it would be silly to think that anyone who sets a world record isnt on some sort of cycle during the year. i just dont think its possible with out it, sure you can be a great lifter with out doping, but metaling at the olympics would be next to imposable without drugs. just because these guys arnt caught doesnt mean there clean.
chiefwr88 3 years ago
the last guy, his cleans look really easy for him. But the jerk is another story...
PossibleInfrost 3 years ago
very succesful weightlifters realy
haluktornado 3 years ago
the last lifter has really long arms
Cubu47 3 years ago
so does rybakou but thats guy's are long as shit
otherkind0 3 years ago
my gosh you all are stupid assholes as well. HAMME WHATEVER DUDE YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OLY LIFTING B CUZ YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED IT AND BEEN EXPOSED TO THAT WORLD SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND MIND YOUR OWN MUTHAFUCKIN BUSINESS.
birdman800 3 years ago
Birdman800: i think you are the one thats using steroids;)
Aliks96 3 years ago
Lost to China's Lu Yong :)
genghishan 3 years ago
on bodyweight...
Sarge343 3 years ago
by .03 kg
LazySniper 3 years ago
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FUCKING STEROID INFESTED ASSHOLES
birdman800 3 years ago
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And steroids won't do shit for your snatch, because snatch is 90% technique, so birdman, you can just shut your fucking mouth. Very mature comment as well.
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it would be silly to think that anyone who sets a world record isnt on some sort of cycle during the year. i just dont think its possible with out it, sure you can be a great lifter with out doping, but metaling at the olympics would be next to imposable without drugs. just because these guys arnt caught doesnt mean there clean.
chiefwr88 3 years ago
are you serious ?
chadcite 3 years ago
awesome lifting!
wmod123 3 years ago
juicers
birdman800 3 years ago
this vid ready on youtube
Taran266 3 years ago