@putting01 - finally someone got it....the 60m is an example of where u fail....some can row like 120m in 20s, so up the fail to 100m, me personally, I'll keep it at 60m for a few more weeks ;)
Not trying to sound rude or anything, but you need to swing your back over on the recovery and on back stops because it'll help you a lot and not damage your back as much
cant row for shit!!! 2:46 per 500m ? my mum could probably do that... 1:55- 2:05 is more reasonable. I was doing 1:40 when I was 16... good luck everyone
@gorillasoph you probably could- if you had a time machine and could see me when I was 16, lol. my PR this year for 500 is 1:16.6. But 500m doesnt count in rowing. rowing machine is for endurance and stamina, so distance we should talk about is minimum 2000m.
@donvittorio84 That's awesome... a 1:16 is amazing. Normally I just get YouTube comments from people who clearly know nothing (they're usually commenting on my squat workouts, where I actually know what I'm doing, unlike the rowing). In the case of the rowing, I only created the video to show a friend how to set up the Tabata timed intervals. I'm well aware my technique is shitty, and this workout suggestion was entirely ill-conceived.
@arrowheadcrossfit thanks- rowing is a beautiful sport but it takes a lot to get a technique right. I would advise you to try going to a rowing club and asking for a few tips and I bet you can improve quickly and than your time will improve. main thing is to engage your legs and back and finish it off with arms for a quick return. if you want to improve your time - try rowing for 1000 and 2000m and combing it with tabata timed intervals plus standard training. all the best and good luck!
even with poor form, i am sure that you were going faster than the pace boat. 2:46 is painfully slow. if you did that pace for 2k straight with no rest, it puts you around 11:06. the vo2 max calculator on the concept2 website, yields a vo2 max of 9.65 for a 72kg male. that is incredibly low, even for a 60 year old. i doubt that you are on the limit of your phsyical capabilities after 5-10 minutes of 20/10 on/off at that pace, in which case this isn't a tabata protocol. cheers!
@felttk2 -- I think you're quite right. This was a poorly made and conceived video, and I didn't have a clue what I was doing at the time. It was hastily thrown together. I probably should pull it down! Thanks for speaking straight, but kindly.
in normal rowing you should be able to perform 2:14 at any time during a Basic Duration training (2x60 minutes) and more. If under any circumstance, as a heavyweight rower (72.5+ kgs) should fail to this, either your technique is terribly bad, or youre just a pussy. With 20/10 tabata I figure that I can keep that up for a couple of hours....
another way to do this is to setup 100m rows with 10 seconds rest and that way you can get a measurement (time wise) that is accurate up to one tenth of a second...It works both ways so try both and see which you like
I'm sure it is. Can you help me with that a little?
My understanding is the initial pull should look like a deadlift, drive with the legs, and only begin to bend the elbows when the leg drive is completed or near completed.
Then throw the handle back first, before bending the knees to get to the catch. ("Knees, elbows, elbows, knees")
I also think I should be keeping my back straighter.
Anyway, instead of just the insult, could you offer some light? Thanks.
A couple of pointers that I think will help you out:
1. You could get a little more layback during the drive. Don't go too crazy with it...just a little bit.
2. You're "rushing the slide" meaning that you're recovery is way too fast. You want your recovery to be quick but slow enough to set up your next drive.
3. To help with the recovery don't pull with your toes...when you're all strapped in...think of pushing down with your heels.
Anyways, pushing down with your heels will use your hamstrings to pull you forward. A good drill is to row barefoot with out strapping in. The only way to get full recovery when doing that is to use your hamstrings.
All in all, you've got the concept of the movement down...
Also, I'm not sure what your damper is set on...but I'd use a 3 or 4 and instead of trying to do it 'quick' think of putting your power into the drive and getting a nice fluid recovery.
What I was trying to say above is if you're doing this for a metcon type workout, don't try to kill yourself by recovering so fast. If you put the power into the drive with a strong and long stroke (with a lower damper setting) you'll get a great workout.
Anyway, hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.
(Now, I'm just waiting for the standard youtube responses to my comments saying that everything I wrote is a bunch of shit!)
@putting01 - finally someone got it....the 60m is an example of where u fail....some can row like 120m in 20s, so up the fail to 100m, me personally, I'll keep it at 60m for a few more weeks ;)
stebaba1 3 months ago
I think the idea is death by tabata. You keep going until you fuck yourself up. Retards!
putitinh01 3 months ago
Not trying to sound rude or anything, but you need to swing your back over on the recovery and on back stops because it'll help you a lot and not damage your back as much
1527cool 11 months ago
cant row for shit!!! 2:46 per 500m ? my mum could probably do that... 1:55- 2:05 is more reasonable. I was doing 1:40 when I was 16... good luck everyone
donvittorio84 1 year ago
@donvittorio84 -- my PR on a 500m is 1:23. Even with my poor technique, I can easily outrow you.
gorillasoph 1 year ago
@gorillasoph you probably could- if you had a time machine and could see me when I was 16, lol. my PR this year for 500 is 1:16.6. But 500m doesnt count in rowing. rowing machine is for endurance and stamina, so distance we should talk about is minimum 2000m.
donvittorio84 1 year ago
@donvittorio84 That's awesome... a 1:16 is amazing. Normally I just get YouTube comments from people who clearly know nothing (they're usually commenting on my squat workouts, where I actually know what I'm doing, unlike the rowing). In the case of the rowing, I only created the video to show a friend how to set up the Tabata timed intervals. I'm well aware my technique is shitty, and this workout suggestion was entirely ill-conceived.
Anyway, 1:16 is fantastic.
arrowheadcrossfit 1 year ago
@arrowheadcrossfit thanks- rowing is a beautiful sport but it takes a lot to get a technique right. I would advise you to try going to a rowing club and asking for a few tips and I bet you can improve quickly and than your time will improve. main thing is to engage your legs and back and finish it off with arms for a quick return. if you want to improve your time - try rowing for 1000 and 2000m and combing it with tabata timed intervals plus standard training. all the best and good luck!
donvittorio84 1 year ago
@donvittorio84 how awesome man my pr this year is 1:14,6
tikkywikky 1 year ago
@donvittorio84 for how long?
drumhead95 1 year ago
very bad technique...
panoscorfiot 1 year ago
even with poor form, i am sure that you were going faster than the pace boat. 2:46 is painfully slow. if you did that pace for 2k straight with no rest, it puts you around 11:06. the vo2 max calculator on the concept2 website, yields a vo2 max of 9.65 for a 72kg male. that is incredibly low, even for a 60 year old. i doubt that you are on the limit of your phsyical capabilities after 5-10 minutes of 20/10 on/off at that pace, in which case this isn't a tabata protocol. cheers!
felttk2 1 year ago
@felttk2 -- I think you're quite right. This was a poorly made and conceived video, and I didn't have a clue what I was doing at the time. It was hastily thrown together. I probably should pull it down! Thanks for speaking straight, but kindly.
gorillasoph 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this, I did this routine for the first time and wanted to die after 20 rounds!
Rich30N90W 1 year ago
in normal rowing you should be able to perform 2:14 at any time during a Basic Duration training (2x60 minutes) and more. If under any circumstance, as a heavyweight rower (72.5+ kgs) should fail to this, either your technique is terribly bad, or youre just a pussy. With 20/10 tabata I figure that I can keep that up for a couple of hours....
theMMaI 1 year ago
another way to do this is to setup 100m rows with 10 seconds rest and that way you can get a measurement (time wise) that is accurate up to one tenth of a second...It works both ways so try both and see which you like
timmythenoose 2 years ago
2:46 500 meter split on a C2 is actually pretty slow. Maybe you meant 1:46? I regularly keep 2:00-2:05 for 30 minutes or more.
Fletch828 2 years ago
I think you are correct on this one
timmythenoose 2 years ago
Death by tabata. Love em. I have "Died" many times. great vid.
yourtuberr 2 years ago
I'm sure it is. Can you help me with that a little?
My understanding is the initial pull should look like a deadlift, drive with the legs, and only begin to bend the elbows when the leg drive is completed or near completed.
Then throw the handle back first, before bending the knees to get to the catch. ("Knees, elbows, elbows, knees")
I also think I should be keeping my back straighter.
Anyway, instead of just the insult, could you offer some light? Thanks.
gorillasoph 3 years ago
Hey, Your technique isn't *that* horrible! :)
A couple of pointers that I think will help you out:
1. You could get a little more layback during the drive. Don't go too crazy with it...just a little bit.
2. You're "rushing the slide" meaning that you're recovery is way too fast. You want your recovery to be quick but slow enough to set up your next drive.
3. To help with the recovery don't pull with your toes...when you're all strapped in...think of pushing down with your heels.
xXreevisXx 3 years ago
(ran out of space in the comment)
Anyways, pushing down with your heels will use your hamstrings to pull you forward. A good drill is to row barefoot with out strapping in. The only way to get full recovery when doing that is to use your hamstrings.
All in all, you've got the concept of the movement down...
Also, I'm not sure what your damper is set on...but I'd use a 3 or 4 and instead of trying to do it 'quick' think of putting your power into the drive and getting a nice fluid recovery.
xXreevisXx 3 years ago
dang...I keep running out of space!
What I was trying to say above is if you're doing this for a metcon type workout, don't try to kill yourself by recovering so fast. If you put the power into the drive with a strong and long stroke (with a lower damper setting) you'll get a great workout.
Anyway, hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.
(Now, I'm just waiting for the standard youtube responses to my comments saying that everything I wrote is a bunch of shit!)
xXreevisXx 3 years ago
horrible technique.
dnab16 3 years ago