Mass Effect 2: Renegade Ending - Renegade Shepard (Spoiler Warning)

[TheCarioca1234]

This video, was filmed with a potatoe.

[pvtspartan]

This is paragon endinb...

[burnout206]

the smart thing is blow the base up if cerberus uses the base they may make the harder to fight due to fact that they will be useing the same tech against them may make the reaper easier to control people

just saying

[mrlinky121]

paragon ending... This almost tricked me

[savien3114]

If anyone has ever went in to afterlife and went downstairs and ordered a drink from the bartender you know the drink was poisoned but does not kill you then you go back and if your renegade is high enough you order another one and then force him to drink it :) and you know what happens next ;)

[Xenozillex]

this was (sadly) my first renagade option in my first playthrough

[Jramssy]

You guys do realize in the novels IM uses the base to implant grayson. Made him a superhuman

[XanderVez]

can you have every die but still get shepard to live

[Jramssy]

@XanderVez no. its impossible. you can have only one person survive but they have to be part of your team and loyal. like i brought jack and kasumi to the reaper, kasumi was loyal. kasumi helped me on the shuttle at the end. everyone else died including the crew

[XanderVez]

@Jramssy that's what i was afraid of...... well thanks for confirming it

[Indignation211]

The way I see it, nothing good can come out of a facility with the sole purpose of "processing" live humans into goo and using it to build Reapers. Plus, I very much suspect that The Illusive Man's goal the whole time was to get his hands on that base. This wouldn't be the first major-Paragon decision my max-Renegade Shepard has made. And hey, at least ill have the Rachni on my side (dont worry, i killed off the dam Council).

[bloodcousins101]

@Indignation211 Council = THE WORST LEADERS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like ever!

[TheVulcanphoenix1]

so im not the only one who has a full renegade character but destroyed the base cool

i mean i destroyed everything that could back us up against the reapers, i killed the rachni queen, i destroyed the geth herectics and now the collector base and i also adviced the quairians to go war which might have an effect

[TheKyuuban]

Badmanjaro, if you let Shepard die to see how it affects ME3, prepare to be disappointed. If Shepard dies at the end of ME2, you can't import your save from ME2 to ME3.

[Grizlap]

Also note that in Mass Effect's whole saga, some choices that seem bad at the time end up good.. like the Rachni Queen, most think the right thing to do is kill her. then in ME 2, you meet that one lady and she's explaining that their more dosile, and were only Violent due to being more likes brainwashed, so, who knows maybe the Tech will be the same way, initally were like.. Tech = Bad, then it ends up being a detirming factor near the end of 3, who knows maybe Cerb and Ally will work together.

[Grizlap]

Um, in a sense you can get Renegade or Paragon for each choice, you have 4 dialog options IF you choose to investigate it all, and then you choose, note that multiple times in the game this accurs, for instance with the Genophage, you can distory or keep the deta, and it can effect you possitivly or negativly how you word it, saying you want it distroyed because the Genophage is right, gives you Renagde, saying you wish to Distory it because it used Live Subjects gives Paragon, and visa versa.

[darkraider564]

if you ask me destroying th base should have been a renegade ending not a paragon,even if i would play a paragon(if this choice was renegade)i would still do it cause admitt it it's epic!!and i don't trust the illusive man i don't believe that it would be wise to give the base to HIM!!

[alex11962]

after this scene i ran like HELL

[JimProfitCat]

I gave The Illussive Man the technology. I was skeptical at first, and played that out in commentary, but when you think about it, there's no time to fuck around. The Collectors are way too powerful, even a galactic alliance between all the species might not be enough. And hell, it's a good thing I destroyed the records to unsteralize the krogan, or they might be making krogan collector too!

Think of it like Warhammer 40k. Cerebus=Space marines. Limited, loyal chapters.

[Treembea]

so were u full renegade and everyone lived?

[futuregamer24]

i think if u hand the illusive man. he will use it to destroy every other species other than humans and thats bad. i personally dont trust him. thumbs up if u agree.

[SargeRvBftw]

this is the paragon ending. Why have you titled it the Renegade ending?

[Treembea]

So were you full Renegade? And just chose the Paragon ending? Cause I'm thinking of playing my next game of going full Renegade but there are to many cool people in my party that I want to survive.

[KevinLuhrs]

i prefer to blow it to fucking kingdom come

[roejames12]

Human dominance ftw.

[Arppis]

This is Paragon ending btw. He is setting a noble example by not using the collector technology to fight the reapers. Renegade ending is where he agrees to save the base and then use the technology on advancement of human race and basicaly giving a green light and a-ok sign to Illusive man's mad plans.

The blue sun is on Paragon ending and the red sun is on the Renegade ending. If you don't belive me, watch the ending where you spare the base and technology on youtube if you don't belive me.

[badmanjaro]

@Arppis It may be the complete opposite in ME3. What if it was needed for the Illusive man to have the base? Maybe they would even work together with the citadel. Now blowing up the base will give us no technology and we can get annihilated. But again the base might have something in it. I guess we will find out.

[Arppis]

@badmanjaro

I seriously doubt it gives huge headache in the next game. :)

[zimzedk]

@badmanjaro Yeah but it gives you renegade so yeah... renegade.... and illusive man is quite evil and only thinks about humans, all aliens would die

[kevynspeed]

@badmanjaro its always better if you make your own unique storyline

think of the many possible outcomes u can get :D

[miru021]

@badmanjaro I too believe the right choice is to keep the base.

[sindri262]

@badmanjaro Paragon/Renegade isn't about good or evil, it's about idealism and principles vs cynicism and practicality. A Paragon destroys the base because they can't risk the corruption it would cause and believe that they can win without it; a Renegade keeps it because it might give them a better chance of survival in the future, and anything is preferable to extinction.

[0ptimus1984]

@Arppis maybe hi means that hi play'd as renegade to the end but in the end made paragon option :)

[Arppis]

@0ptimus1984

Maybe. It is still the Paragon ending. :)

[KCChiefsAdams]

@Arppis Nope, Paragon is where you do listne to the Illusive Man and what mad plans?

[Arppis]

@KCChiefsAdams

See the BLUE color on the background? That's one of the signs that it's the Paragon ending. In the other ending, you get RED background. Just like in the first game. Plus, it's more Paragon to NOT give HUMANITY edge against other races. Being all pro human has always been Renegade thing and being about equality is Paragon. Paragon is about setting example and not selling your soul to get technological edge.

[nocbl2]

I'm Commander Shepard and I'm doing a barrel roll!

[DarkMysticGR]

Am I the only one who thinks that handing the collector base over to Cerberus is the only reasonable thing to do?

I mean Sovereign easily manipulated the geth and destroyed half the Citadel, Harbinger had the Collectors liquify half the human colonists and even a "dead" Reaper was able to screw up the minds of some Cerberus scientists...

One Reaper at a time is bad enough, now that thousands are coming I think the Collector technology should come in handy...

Just saying...

[badmanjaro]

@DarkMysticGR Agreed

[S1mpukka]

@DarkMysticGR But surely you also realize that Reapers could utilize that taken Collector technology against organics? I mean, the Citadel and Relays were designed as a trap by the Reapers. Taking incomprehensible technology is a risk, it could give advantage to the Reapers. Besides, the base would remain on the hands of the Illusive man, who is known to be rather deceptive.

[RE0514]

@DarkMysticGR but in the end you have to think about the next game and really do you really think that harbinger doesnt have a scapegoat or that he didnt consider this happening we did destroy a reaper last game and they know it. Also and have you or anyone else notice the Illusive man's EYES really he is indoctronated remember when saren got the enhancements that soverign gave him know that may be a far stretch but dont tell me that he doesnt seem right to you. I think your screwing yourself JS

[DarkMysticGR]

@RE0514 The fact that he has prosthetic eyes doesn't necesarilly mean that he is indocrinated...

Well, I'm not gona try and solve this now. We have aprox. 2 more years for ME3.

Then we'll find out...

[RE0514]

@DarkMysticGR No we dont because next fall is its release date so get your shepard ready.

[Arppis]

@DarkMysticGR

It all seems like a good idea till Reapers activate some mechanism in the base that brainwashes everyone, or the Illusive Man uses it to some really mad scheme in his lust for power. Don't think he can handle it.

[DarkMysticGR]

@Arppis Well, we'll just have to wait 2 more years for ME3 and find out right?

[Arppis]

@DarkMysticGR

Aye. :)

Can't wait!

[UtkuTheMagnificent]

@DarkMysticGR

Agreed, my total Paragon Shepard kept the base.

[psychomoth06]

@DarkMysticGR What if there's something in that base that lets the Reapers cause even more harm?

Besides, I SERIOUSLY doubt Bioware would be so stupid as to make the Paragon ending is the wrong choice. If anything, they'll make it so that both outcomes can end positively in ME3.

[Ghostshroom]

@DarkMysticGR

The reason why I chose to destroy it is that I figure basing your entire defence on the technology of your enemy is a pretty huge risk to take, just think of the Reaper IFF or the Citadel

[Konform2zoidberg]

@DarkMysticGR You are not, a slight plurality of people happen to believe just destroying it is the right thing to do, I personally have played through four different careers and have gone 1/2 and 1/2 destroy keep.

We're going to have to deal with the reaper indoctrination threat eventually, might as well be Cerberus that serves as the guinea pig.

[DarkMysticGR]

@Konform2zoidberg

So true...

[TheOmegaParadigm]

@DarkMysticGR There is a lot of reason in what you're saying. It makes perfect sense to claim enemy technology in the hopes that such tech may be reverse-engineered and used to destroy the Reapers. However, there are a few problems that would follow this. For one, it is in the hands of the Illusive Man. Even if my some miracle the base was used to stop the Reapers, he'd still have the base tech afterwards, and if it could stop the Reapers, what would stop Cerberus from controlling the galaxy?

[TheOmegaParadigm]

@DarkMysticGR Following the idea that the Illusive Man would likely abuse the power of Reaper technology if by some miraculous occurrence the Reapers were defeated by this tech, you have to remember that the Illusive Man runs a rather xenophobic organization. With the exception of looking the other way with Shepard's crew, he is still purely interested in empowering the human race. He would see it that other aliens would be under us, and the galaxy of ME is in no more need of xenophobia.

[DarkMysticGR]

@TheOmegaParadigm I can't argue with that.......

Well, even if the Illusive Man tries anything funny with the Reaper Tech, we shouldn't forget that Shepard+Crew are skillful combatants and more than enough to deal with the situation.Personaly, I have kept saves with both endings, just in case :)

[TheOmegaParadigm]

@DarkMysticGR Good idea. Those saves will offer two completely different story-lines. I was going to start another Mass Effect 2 game because I just reached level 60 with my Mass Effect 1 Shepard, playing basically just how I did in my first. I think I'll wait, though, for when the third comes out. I want to measure the repercussions the actions in the second game have on the third, to weigh what would be best for me to do. Regardless, Paragon Shepard is definitely the way to go, in my opinion.

[aryelco]

Back in ME1, Sovereign did not face the whole universe, only a small group was defending the Citadel at that time (C-sec), and it takes time for Sovereign to manipulated 5% Geth(As Legion mentioned). While all other race's defend force is not there.

tl;dr if we made the right choice, saving the right races, and the whole universe is united against the Reapers, then maybe handing the Collector base over to Cerberus is not rly needed.

[aryelco]

Back in ME1, Sovereign did not face the whole universe, only a small group was defending the Citadel at that time (C-sec), and it takes time for Sovereign to manipulated 5% Geth(As Legion mentioned). While all other race's defend force is not there.

tl;dr if we made the right choice, saving the right races, and the whole universe is united against the Reapers, then maybe handing the Collector base over to Cerberus is not rly needed.

[DarkMysticGR]

@aryelco I was simply saying that, if in the right hands, the Collector technology can prove useful...

Well, maybe we'll need it, maybe we will not, let's wait for ME3 and find out :)

[markeesdeath]

@DarkMysticGR Seeing as how Shep can pull a one man army, theres no need for that bollux. Besides Illusive man gets to have its technology all to himself? ithink not.

[LightningEidolen]

@DarkMysticGR True but Cerberus has control of it and cerberus can never be trusted. As a true paragon, i would rather do it the hard way than risk TIM and cerberus turning against me.

[Draelos]

@DarkMysticGR It's not saving the base that's the problem. It's giving it to Cerberus. The right thing to do would have been taking it giving it to someone you trust like Mordin or maybe the Alliance or Liara. Hell, even the Citadel would have been a better choice than the IM exclusively. That's my only real issue with the 'gade ending and it a giant error in judgment (something I didn't know before agreeing to save it)

[badmanjaro]

10,000 views thanks!

[ninjadude853]

yeah dude, this is the paragon ending with a renegade shepard

[523TRITO]

so there is a renegade good ending!

[ShadowSoldior]

"I'm sorry, I'm having trouble hearing you, I'm getting a lot of bullshit on this line." One of the best lines ever.

[Lupain]

Shepard is renegade, but you destroy the base, and do not help the illusive man

this is good end not the bad,

look this Sun behind the Ilusive Man

renegade end = Red Sun (when you help the ilusive man)

paragon end = Blue Sun (when you destroy the base and this dangerous tech)

[badmanjaro]

@Lupain red and blue if shepard dies and blows up the base

[gguilford72]

@badmanjaro

incorrect.

[Rixmeistercon]

i agree with kauyun----u r in fact a jackass. it is the paragon option for blowing up the base. notice the BLUE sun? if it was renegade there would have been a RED sun behind the illusive man

[SW0681]

for me at the end jacob and samara made it, and btw dont you reckon archangle looks like the guy from district 8?

[ollobrains1]

game still wasnt as "open ended" as they made out

[7heRed]

Yes it was. Lol

[pericom9874]

If you notice throughout the entire game, there was a big foreshadow. one of my friends told me that in mass effect 2, you see events like a cure for the krogen and tali giving data to a geth. also rewriting data on geth. with all those in mind my friend predicts that in mass effect 3 you would unite the entire galaxy to fight the repears.

[Gamerzlife]

you auctually get paragon points for blowing it up

[kauyun]

that is the paragon-ending, dumbass!!!

the only thing you did was beeing a jackass to the Illusive man (what I'm all the time)

and you looked like a creep, since you haven't treated your scars

[xpolsives]

i had to put theed samara and mordin to rest at the end R.I.P

[NAR106]

the illusive man tells joker his intentions for the base in the ending where shepard dies. he's not really focused on reapers

[tkasich1]

@NAR106 honestly, I believe the Illusive Man wasn't trying to stop the reapers.

He's focused on putting humanity at the top.

[henyous5]

whys blowing the base up good

[Coldshoulderm14]

The Illusive Man would have used it against everyone. Not just the reapers... plus it's better to find our own tech and not just follow the reapers plans.

Though if you think about it... the reapers could try to contact the collector base again and indoctrinate the Illusive Man or anyone else on it... that would be a bad idea.

So in the long run better to destroy it... even though I saved it the first time because I thought we'd give it to the council not Cerberus.

[henyous5]

@Coldshoulderm14 ok thanks i was doing my last playthrough and i wanted everything right

[sailingbug]

cuz illusive man will just use it 2 get mach pawer! and if he dont the colektors will!

[tkasich1]

@henyous5 because if you give spare the base Cerberus gains access to the dangerous technology. And the "I hate aliens" organization will use the base to put humanity at the top.

Remember: The Collector Base liquefied people. So that abomination deserved to be destroyed.

[orgilzrorgilzr]

in me2 i purposly got people killed. 3 teamates died on ship. 1 in the vent part 1 to escort the crew 2 on the second assult and i took 2 teamembers in the end. and there was only 1 person left defending the door. TALI.

[rambozokni]

I don't know... although the illusive man looks like he's hiding something and might be the "evil" I saved the collector base... to help humanity... I thought it would be the paragon ending...

[sice24]

yay now i know how 2 keep everyone alive!

[JamesChristian724]

For the millionth time, this is the PARAGON ENDING. Renegade choices are the bottom choices.

[kingpinoflove]

i have 1 year to get no one left behind aka don't piss jack off

[NitroT6]

Yah...this is the paragon ending. One way you can tell is the sun at the end in the Illusive Man's office is blue. If it was the renegade ending it'd be red.

[joni16]

did you lose you controller at the end?...... XD

[jcarminatti09]

Indeed, this is the Paragon ending. Destroying the base is the 'right' think to do.

Also, no, you don't deserve 5 stars for killing the reaper with the Cain. You would deserve 5 stars if you kill it with the Predator only and with both team members dead. :)

[SuperDarksaber]

well i got a different renagade ending. it depends on choices you made. not the side you took. i even heard that from bioware. so yeah nice job though. just beat it again i love the epic song during the fight with the human reaper

[slopedarmor]

To your question why they want to make a human reaper, humans are genetically diverse, and are a good choice of spieces to test stuff on. Mordin (could have) said that when you went to save his apprentice. (when you found a human test corpse)

Which would probably mean it is much easier to make human reapers than asari/turian/whatever reapers.

They also tried to make prothean reapers but failed, one reason why they made collectors, and made reapers from them.

[nasyagen]

Harbinger the reaper states why they chose human.

Turians: are considered to primitive.

Krogan: are sterilized and their potential is wasted.

Asari: reliance upon alien species for

reproduction shows genetic weakness.

Salarian: ife span too short, genetic code too fragile

Quarian: considered due to cybernetic augmentation, weak immune system too debilitating.

Drell: useless because of their insufficient numbers.

When ever he takes over a collector he says those things.

[nasyagen]

*life span

Oh and if you have jack in your squad he takes interest in her for her biotics.

[slopedarmor]

lol, I never even noticed that somehow.

But still, I find the reason for the turians and asari vague, especially since asari don't rely on other species for reproduction.

And surely the reapers can solve the genophage, even the salarian assistent seemed to be well underway, but OK, they don't want to wait.

And are they really inable to simply grow and harvest drell tissue? hm, unnessecary costs perhaps.

Asari reason is still vague :P

[nasyagen]

It's also Ironic seeing as how the reapers need other species to reproduce. But, I think he means that in order to evolve the asari need different mates. Like how they say with a pure-blood nothing is gained, or something like that lol it's confusing. The turian thing means that the reaper would be barbaric and not sophisticated I guess.

[Coldshoulderm14]

Go humanity!!... though it's kind of a hollow victory since they want us. XD

[psychomoth06]

@nasyagen Turians - primitive?? That makes no sense.

[nasyagen]

@psychomoth06 Their genetic make-up is primitive, because their make up resembles primitive predators like dinosaurs, or crocodiles. Not primitive as a people but primitive in genetics, if I made any sense lol.

[tkasich1]

@nasyagen Or maybe humanity played a huge role in Soverign's destruction.

[nasyagen]

@tkasich1 That is part of the reason as well.

[udaho456]

@slopedarmor While you are right on every occasion, I just feel like being "that guy" and thus rain a bit on your idea. Don't let Mordin fool you, humans-at least in reality-are not genetically diverse in any way. Our species hit a bad bottleneck some time ago that caused our genetic diversity to dwindle quite a bit. In other words, compared to most life on this planet, we humans are inbreds. At least in real life. Don't know about the game.

[slopedarmor]

@udaho456

Who knows, maybe the other species are even less diverse and more inbred :P

[contown731]

This is the paragon ending, not the renegade ending.

[FFLOVER525]

@contown731

lol thats what I was thinking.

[Pliskkenn]

Awesome, except, destroying the station is the Paragon choice.

[SlySpy91]

Cool video, could've done without the blurriness at times though.

One other thing, was that your daughter in the background? Or am I going crazy?

[Joschicomic]

Wow! Well done! 5 Stars and Download

[enjoiR3]

Woah nice gameplay! Are you enjoying it so far? I'm looking to get that and mass effect 2.

[TheChrisMaloney]

wow really good video bro!!! great quality too! 5/5 all da way!! :)

[akatsuki202]

Awesome vid i need to play this shiiiitt :O!!! Lmfao 5/5

[TheHistoryJohn]

Hey awsome effects dude, you´re really good :D

5 *****

[JPWtutorials23]

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[Dj1998Cp]

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[alexdukefan]

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[LMKVeiz159]

Dang that game looks cool this video totally deserves 5 stars:)

[ParagonX94]

Awesome job!! : ) 5/5

[akatsuki202]

great quality :O

[EastlakeLAX22]

my shepard is black so he should have no trouble making the leap onto the ship

[Gamelover9966]

OMG EVIL SHEPARD RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

[DeejayStefano]

Hey..I Have Beaten Up The Game Today...And Shepard And His Crew Dies....Only Joker Remains...:X

[badmanjaro]

heh i like that ending! to get that ending you have to do the following.

1.Don't buy any of the Normandys Upgrades

2. Don't even bother talk with your teamates (Loyalty Missions)

3. Don't send anyone back with the crew you found on the way to the human reaper.

[badmanjaro]

No One Gets Left Behind. To Get this achievement do the following.

1. Get ALL Normandys weapons and armours and specifics upgrades by asking your crew.

2. Get loyalty from all crew members. Not Joker he's already very loyal to you since Mass Effect 1

Heres the order for the collectors ships

1. Tali or legion - Vents

2. Garrus - Team Leader 1

3: Send Grunt back with the crew.

4. Grarrus - Team Leader 2

5. Samara or Jack as biotic barrier

6. Mordin and Thane as ending mission

[kauyun]

bullshit:

you don't need ALL the Ship-upgrades, only the better shields, plating and weapons.

You can send back whoever you want, I suggest Tali.

It also doens't matter who you take with you, as long as the people at the door that needs to be hold have enough fighting streanght (meaning taking Mordin with you is a good choice but Thane, not realy important)

Also (I didn't bother to find when) you can use Miranda, and even Jacob as leader!

[lgvereor]

@badmanjaro @badmanjaro Bad setup, send Mordin back with team because he is the "squishiest" and can't survive the "hold the line" and is not the best team member for final fight due to weapons and skills.

For final team you use Zaeed (Inferno Grenade to handle armor and concussive shot to kill barriers), and Samara for her reave which handles barriers and armor, both who use assault rifles, which should be Geth Assault Rifle.

[lgvereor]

@badmanjaro Your team setup will fuck you up on Insanity, with Samara and Zaeed properly talented you can tear through the Collectors and Reaper easy.

[fiveMIRrOrs]

@badmanjaro Miranda works as the second team leader too.

[ertyqwer]

@badmanjaro it's better to send Mordin back with the crew tbh.

[shinobikid2]

@badmanjaro u have to send mordin back with the crew

[ShadowSoldior]

@badmanjaro Actually for #3 I'm pretty sure you can send any party member who is loyal to you. They wouldn't force you to give up a specific person, that's why the other bits have two or three choices of party members. And the only reason to choose Mordin in the ending mission is because his incinerate works well on the collectors. The last bit you can pretty much choose anyone.

[Flika1o1]

@badmanjaro

did u have an romance wth anyone ? curious plz tell me

[TFKCrYSIS]

This is the paragon ending. The renegade ending is the one where you let the illusive man keep the collector ship. You can tell because in the paragon ending the weird kinda gas planet behind him is comepletley blue which is the colour it represents. The renegade is completley red.

[teampwnage2]

wats renegade?

[galaxy31M]

if u played knights of the old republic, renegade is basically the "dark side". paragon is the "light side"

[ZexionII]

What is it with people insisting on this being the renegade ending? Just because you say "no" to someone doesn't make you a renegade, especially when that someone is TIM, an man who no doubt has ulterior motives. That, and the dialogue options you choose are located in the slots reserved for paragon options, and the sun turns blue when you speak to TIM (while it turns red if you choose to let TIM get his hands on the ship). So yeah, this = paragon, not renegade

[badmanjaro]

hmm thanks for summing it up for me! I guess i was just doing all renegade actions thinking it will be bad lol! Never noticed giving the ship to TIM it turned red. I have both games. Save the ship and destroy the ship to experiment on ME3

[readme60]

cool video dude.

[Barkdog8]

coo vid i like mass effect

[awkwardchipmunk]

cool whets your 360 gamer tag