Education Queensland defends NSCP chaplain organising 'Creation Science' lecture

[MrHippyRobot]

I go to that school. The chaplain does not force any religion on anyone. He's not the problem. Even though the lecture was optional it goes to far I don't think it should of happened in the first place.

[GaolisVideoLog]

@MrHippyRobot This movement should stop right now before they throw humanity back to the middle ages. It's not like this BS hadn't already happened before.

[Xatasha6611]

Creationism is Religion with a lab coat on

[Avatar230594]

Should it interest anyone that I was there? I know both the Chaplain and the vice Captain. Religious debates are stupid. It's true in saying that attendance was voluntary. I didn't actually go to the seminar but I heard there was a lot of gaps i his argument. Also the advertisement sign has "Science presentation." The head of science department wrote the word "pseudo" in front.

[peterb1968]

Zapkvr has a point. It is not that any chaplain forces religion is forced on anyone. It is that our money is being spent on relgion. It puts a danger into schools as religious people are not vetted like anyone else is going to work with kids and religious people have a bad record when dealing with kids to say the least. Infact all religion including scripture classes dont belong at school. The work establish in the constitution means both to set up and to support.

[ArnoldEBM]

@zapkvr Hahaha. I'm not even going to bother... You have to take shit out on a 17 year old... I'm not religious in any way, shape or form. But that's not going to stop me from allowing other people to have their own beliefs. That's just the way I see it. You don't have to abuse me about it. I'm just saying that we've got a chaplain who's a good honest man who doesn't shove religion in our faces. And yeah, I'll be voting in the next election. Cheers.

[ArnoldEBM]

I'm one of the other vice captains at this school. I know the chappy and he doesn't 'enforce' religion on any of the students. He's simply there for any students who happen to be Christian so they have someone who shares the same beliefs there to support them when things are getting hard. No student is made to see him if they don't want to. The presentation was for students who were interested in hearing another person's view. No student was forced to attend. They were there on their own accord.

[zapkvr]

@ArnoldEBM Or even Of their own accord? Seriously, are you really in year 12? How the devil did you achieve that when you don't even know the King's english? The point is not that kids are forced to go see him, it's the fact that taxpayers are paying for him to spout his religious bullshit. Do they teach clear thinking at your school? Do you even understand what is stake here? Are you allowed to vote? Dismissed. 

[Avatar230594]

@zapkvr He doesn't preach though, he still just gives you advice.

[MrJohnnyrace]

Its plain and simple, the guy lies. The Chaplain should be fired.

[MegaPatty4]

well done to the School vice`captain!

[meleder]

this is a joke

[AtheistAussie]

There is a Creation museum somewhere near Gympie, what's going on up there?

[UsqueAdNauseam]

My fellow McKay clansman is a teller of lies for Jesus and should not be allowed near schools. You have something rotten in your education system. The school vice-captain is a hero of integrity.

[KimmehCharmeleon]

I'm so glad the comments on this video are good ones, I'm glad there are like-minded individuals who think the same as me - that this shit's got to go!

[Nicx950]

it said on the website "Norwegian bomber is Darwinist"

Really? REALLY!?

[jaked35mm]

If I wanted my kids to to learn this stuff I would send them to church ...Creationism is for church service but then again if they tried to "teach" it in church they attendance would drop.

[veritasodivmparit]

My hat goes off to the Vice Captain who has resigned - a demonstration that at least some of today's students are allowed to exercise reason and logic to the extent that he/she was able to recognise John Mackay is a loon who has no other mission than to mislead people (aka proselytise).

[EssentialPedagogy]

Creation science....... no such thing so how this is allowed is beyond me

[peterb1968]

Section 116 of the constitution says, The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

So funding for the Chaplins is Unlawful and must stop.

[coweatsman]

What happened to section 116 of the Australian Constitution?

116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any

religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting

the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be

required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the

Commonwealth.

[peterb1968]

@coweatsman It is still there but the Howard Government ignored it and put the program in. No one took it to the high court until now. The public need to challange the theists like to underline the secular nature of our government.

[nausinora]

So why not friggin get a tarot reader in to while they're at it! This is sickening, religion needs to go.

[WeAreBrooklyn]

Creationism has been disproven in every way, shape and form?... Creationism should be outlawed.

[peterb1968]

This is an outrage. A school in Australia under the Australian Constitution must not allow any religion to be promoted. Time to get rid of the School Chaplains program

[zapkvr]

@peterb1968 You know that's not true which is why it is all the more important for the Commonwealth to intervene. The Constitution is quite clear The commonwealth may not legislate to establish a state religion. This is not the same as putting bigots and fanatics in front of kids so they can spout their bullshit. Peace:)

[peterb1968]

@zapkvr Check section 116. Get the idiots out of our schools

[peterb1968]

@zapkvr The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth

IS that not in back and white. Read these words ,"or for imposing any religious observance". Religion in school is devisive and unnecessary.

Also not establishing a religion also means not spending money

[zapkvr]

@peterb1968 Well clearly it has some ambiguity or we would not have state aid to catholic schools which has been in existence since the fifties. And I think you will find estblishment has a different meaning entirely to that which you refer. In the U.K. the Extablsihed or State church is the CoE because the Monarch is its head. There is no analogy in Australia.