I like churches that welcome everybody whether they are gay or not. But the gay pride flag and blessing of same sex unions does get a little carried away
I am gay and I truly believe in God and Jesus even though I lean towards "side B". Maybe it seems hypocritical because most of my life I have had relationships with men, but there is something in me that doesn't feel 100% comfortable about it. I love my gay community, but sometimes I wonder...
I'm not gay but I support gay people (no matter what religion they are) and I get a lot of crap from people around me saying that I don't truly believe in God (be of Christian faith) or I'm disobeying him in some way if I'm supporting gay rights, among other reasons that are unrelated to this topic. But I'm glad you made this channel. And I subbed, I'd like to learn more about this topic. Thanks for sharing!
I'm very anti-religious, but I have nothing against people who do believe, and thank you for being one of the few people that are making people see that idiots like WBC aren't to be an example for religious people
Thank you for this! I have really been struggling with the fact that I am attracted to girls bit also love God and want to serve Him! This was helpful and encouraging!
I think it would advance the cause of gay Christians if they stood up and defended Christ from all of the leftwing Christ-bashing that takes place, against the supercilious dismissal of Jesus as if only a fangle-toothed hillbilly would believe in Him. That kind of behavior infuriates Christians who must struggle with the sin of resentment, even hatred, as a consequence. Gay Christians need to stand with other disciples, not against them. Everybody respects boldness for the Lord.
I'm a devout Christian, and I really want to believe that being Christian and bisexual wouldn't offend God. I'm always told that it's wrong, and I HATE that people think I'm confused. I've had crushes on females since elementary school, I just did, it wasn't a choice.
I LOVE Jesus, and I try my best to be a great daughter of God, and I strongly dislike that I wish to be openly bi, but probably can't because of my conservative christian parents and spriritual siblings.
I am a catholic side B, but I think that side B and side A can both go to heaven I just think if u r christian then it is better to honor Gods commandments and strive to live a life as sin-free as possible
@GayChristianNetwork Pauls letters only mention the romans commiting public acts of heterosexuals commiting homosexual intimate behavior in public (pretending to be homosexuals, which is deciet) -The common practice of roman authorities, which is lusting and adultery. His letters make no mention of homosexuals remaining homosexuals. I do believe that there is nothing morally wrong with beiing attracted to other men but celibacy is important to ALL christians.
@zOMGLaserGunzPewPew Umm I have a few things to say to you. 1) Gay people can get married in some states and Canada, remember? 2) Gay people can wait to have sex until they are committed to each other in some way. You really think God is too small to navigate that predicament?
Question: im on the side A of this debate but the problem i see is that if you are gay and you are practicing "being gay" how can you get married to the person you love if no one will allow you to be married. so in the end you are forced to live in celibacy or commit a sin having sex with the one you love. so my question is how can you practice being gay if you are not allowed to marry?
" the problem i see is that if you are gay and you are practicing "being gay" how can you get married to the person you love if no one will allow you to be married."
Five states allow same gender marriage and even those that don't allow informal marriage ceremonies, allowing the couple an intimate life free of sin.
Thank you for helping to facilitate an open, rational debate on the topic. Being heterosexual and agnostic, I am obviously neither for nor against, but the debate is interesting because of the issues involved, and the individuals involved, and it is pleasant to see it take place under such civilized conditions.
I'm not sure where I fall on the A/B Great Debate. I've thought about this a lot, and I would definitely say that same-sex relationships are essential. I think celibacy is incredibly isolating. On the other hand, I also think that we as Christians are called to chastity. It's not a gay/straight thing, it's just one of the main virtues. So, chaste partnership. Did I just invent a "Side C"?
It's important we not forget the efforts of heterosexual advocates like Peggy and Tony Campolo who are reaching out to create bridges between gay Christian advocates and opponents, Coretta Scott King (the late wife of Rev Martin Luther King), the Rev. James Lawson and John C. Holbert . These and other gay supportive individuals have helped gay Christians make great strides in the growth of gay affirming and welcoming churches, not the least of which are the Lutheran and Episcopal assemblies.
@GayChristianNetwork I'am a Christian and I have an honest question concerning homosexuality and the bible. How sure are you personally that same sex relationships are in accordance with scripture? I ask this having read/listened to Mel white, jack Rogers, Troy perry, Rick Brentlinger etc...They formulate their arguments to sound convincing but the refutations of these arguments by others such as Dr. Robert gagnon, John MacArthur and others seem to have strong biblical support. Thanks
Hi Justin just wanted to say that I have been totally blessed by your videos and just looking at you although you are very good looking, I can see that Gods love shines out from you and thank you so much im sure you have helped so many in a kind loving christian way (the way it was ment to be)
As a straight Christian, I believe you can be a gay Christian. What I cannot countenance is watered down Christianity. There are people who call themselves Christians, but basically believe anything goes. They don't preach against fornication or adultery, they basically just preach love love love. Of course, I believe in Christ's love, but there are rules by which we must live in order to understand true happiness.
interesting. i'd like to know what your take on this position is. would be very helpful brother. i believe those verses weren't misinterpreted. homosexuality is a sin. however, i believe it is natural. the same way we have a sinful nature. so that means, you and i are on the same boat as i sinfully lust after the opposite sex. now that we're both on equal ground, what's left? repentance. it is still wrong but not to the point of hell. but we better FIGHT it and live a life of repentance.
@nantapatt It sounds like you are what we call a "Side B" gay Christian. There are many members of GCN who share your opinion. I encourage you to read "The Great Debate" on the GCN website.
I really wish your video had more than 32K views. I've known to many Christians who have turned their back on religion because of subjects like this. Jesus loves everyone and people can't understand that. When it comes time for God to judge me I will say, "I loved everyone as I love myself, as you commanded me to in Mark 12:31" I think that would be better than saying, "I hated people because you hinted at that in obscure passages in the old testament." Love not H8!
If Gay people are so wrong and evil, then why would God make them that way? Isn't that what the bible says? God made everyone just the way he wanted them? and anyways, people DONT CHOOSE to be gay, your born that way, I Know from experience, I've grown up knowing there was something different about me and I've finally realized what it is, and chose to EMBRACE it and my life is so much better.
@mmfreak15 Couldn't agree with you more. Being gay is not a choice and it should be embraced by people who are gay so they can have full and rewarding lives.
I wanted to say thank you for this organization. I'm a straight Christian and it makes me so sad when I hear people condemning gays to Hell. It's ignorant and hurtful and the opposite of what Christ taught.
I go to a Catholic school and I'm the only one there who believes gays can be Christians. It makes me really sad.
I'll direct some of them to these videos and your website. Thank you so much for everything you do. God bless
I'm a Christian on a college campus. Recently I've become friends with the president of the GLBT group on campus and have attended a function in memorial of those who've died as a result of homophobic bullying. I believe God has put it in my heart to understand GLBT's and to do what I can to heal the bitter divide between gays and Christians. God bless you in what you are doing and I pray that our Lord leads us both to greater understanding of His truth.
Thank you for having this youtube page. I am so happy I can seek for answers and find them. I most likely will be emailing you guys soon. I am in the process of figuring out how to come out. again thank you. :)
what is a side A and side B Christian? A christian is a christian...a person who wants to have a deep relationship with Yahweh. Don't segregate any more than it already is. I'm not gay and i don't see any scripture against being gay...i see scripture against fornicating, adultery, prostitution, whore mongering and effeminates (could be misconstrued as homosexual?) just my opinion ;)
Justin, thank you for the clips and I pray that the Lord allows you to continue to make them. As a homosexual myself, I'm always struggling with the issue of being gay and christian. I've tried the celibacy thing and to this day it just makes me feel absolutely alone; especially when I read in Genesis that "Man was not meant to be alone".
I've tried different methods to try to turn straight, but I was only fooling myself. In the end, I was still gay. I'm glad to know what you're teaching. The
In my opinion, even if you are gay and have a gay relationship, you are just as permitted to the Kingdom of Heaven as any strait person. Even if you are a side b, and believe gay relationships are sinnacle, Jesus died for our sins correct? Yes. so even if it is a sin, Jesus forgives you are you can go to Heaven. But above all I believe that if you seek God, you will find him.
Actually gay marriage is legal in five states. And the Lutheran and Episcopal churches are part of a growing number of institutions opening their doors to gay members.
@saucegg finally, someone who has beliefs that are more realisitic. i mean ive been seeing people that say "if your beliefs are not exactly my beliefs then you are going to Hell." you are actually one of the first intellegent christians ive met.
thank you for what you do GayChristianNetwork! God so love and favor your ministry! you're like Christ himself, reaching out to the least of people and include everyone in the salvation plan! Halleluya to our King who conceals His ways to the sophisticates and know-it-alls but reveals them to ordinary people like you and me.
I'm a Christian and I think that the Bible can be interpreted on a variety of levels. Perhaps what these negative portrayals of homosexuals in the bible are alluding to sexual debauchery, i.e. sins that can be committed by anyone no matter what their sexuality is. The Bible cannot be just passively accepted just like any other book; it has to be actively studied and pondered. So someone claiming that bible disallows homosexuality has neglected to consider its metaphorical implications.
Christianity teaches us to love ourselves and each other. In my view it's about relationship, rather than searching, a relationship with the Lord. For me, fear, hatred and anger, are things that blocked God, there the purscution of homosexuals, is not in my view biblical. However, I believe that sexual lust can also block relationship with the Lord, or sexual shame and guilt, in addition to that I think pride and vanity also may block peace with the Lord.
I think the better question is: Can one be intelligent and Christian? Despite strong evidence to the contrary, yes - I have actually met some Christian-identified people who are quite intelligent and even decent. Some have actually been straight. So we mustn't lump all Christians into one "bible thumping, half-wit" category. People can choose their religion but straight people did not choose how they are so it's important to be patient with them - especially the less evolved ones.
Having gay attraction is not inherently wrong, but indulging in those unnatural and ungodly attractions, whether by thought or action is wrong. A gay person is not necessarily condemned, but a practicing gay is. The bible says that they will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
@Danthemanlyman7 It sounds like you are what we call a "Side B" Christian. GCN not only tolerates this view, but supports people with it as long as they are tolerant of other who are looking for answers, even if those answers are different than their own. To learn more about "Side B" Christians, you can read "The Great Debate" on the GCN website.
@GayChristianNetwork Thank you for interpreting God's word in a beautiful and truthful way! Too many Christians say that homosexuality is the worst of all sins and should be condemned. It breaks my heart when my gay friends think that all Christians are close-minded and that God is a hateful being. You are a beautiful person inside and out and God loves you! That's the best thing about being a Christian, God loves us no matter what becasue Jesus died for our sins xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Thank you very much to be an understanding person. Happily, persons are beginning to see many gay men are searching for or maintaining a life of monogamous relationship, with respect and fidelity.
Such is what a lot of people on both ends of the spiritual gap say about each other a good bit of the time. Personally, Im all to happy to leave it up to God to decide which is (more) true.
As a completely straight Christian(Southern even), I'm a side A on this issue. I don't believe that being homosexual is a sin. I may just be too nice or something, but I never felt that it was right to think of someone as bad, or that they cannot make it to heaven, just because of their sexual orientation alone, despite how commonly it is preached against homosexuality.
@ anonymityismyname: It's NOT the religion itself; it's only the people that won't accept them. Jesus says to love, not hate.
NOT all heterosexual Christians condemn homosexuals. The United Church of Christ and the Alliance of Baptists are open and affirming churches. They are two of MANY examples of a growing, inexorable religous left. :)
@AtomicMonster454 really? pretty sure that God wouldnt give a person a sexual desire and then not let them express who he created them to be. I have a asexual friend, now that make more sense to me that he is called to chastity. But i think its pretty objective and ignorant to just say this is how they should live, because i dont know if the answer is that black and white.
@AtomicMonster454 It sounds like you are what we call a "Side B" Christian. GCN not only tolerates this view, but supports people with it as long as they are tolerant of other who are looking for answers, even if those answers are different than their own. To learn more about "Side B" Christians, you can read "The Great Debate" on the GCN website.
Hey, if I'm on the fence about whether or not I as a Christian should pursue a homosexual relationship (and I'm pretty accepting of it ight now), does that make me type AB+?
That comes after 1st. Corinthians 14:31-34 in which Paul says women are forbidden by God to speak during church meetings, meaning churches that permit such are VERY arguably in sin. But IF God does allow for this to change so that the Faith may be preserved, what ELSE may He so do?
Multiple marriage and owning of concubine were acceptable practices in Biblical times eventhough they are regarded as morally reprehensible now. The Bible can be used to justify BOTH side A and side B Christians.
@karlanderik It's not a test. It never states it is a "sin." It just calls it an abomination, which meant something different in that time period. God loves EVERYONE! (:
"maybe thats a test god is putting you through... "
Then that is the hardest most cruel test ever conceived. Can you imagine not being allowed to fall in love? To live life not sharing it with anyone? Some people have the gift of solitude but according to Paul, not very many, and he recommended people to marry. God made Eve because it wasn't good for Adam to be alone. So homosexuals are condemned to do so?
please help me.. Im struggling and hurting because im gay and i dont wanna be one.. Its just so painful you know.. I always pray that god can fix me soon. I want to be inlove but not with a guy again. It felt wrong and then i am crying every night asking what if im straight and it just hurts me knowing that i just have to deal with this for the rest of my life. I love my family so much that i cried so much when my mom found out i was dating a guy.
i know its hard, with some ppl not accepting u, and it may seem like no one supports u. but remember that there ARE ppl out there who are totally ok with the way u are. im straight, but i definitely know how u feel. remember that God loves everyone. Hes not gunna kick u out of a chance at heaven because of ur attractions. thats just not the way He is. He created everyone as equals, with equal chances at heaven.
1919 was the year when the catholic church opened the doors to blacks and removed the theory that they were designed by god to be slaves! Then 49 years later "1968" they had full equality under the law... A woman cannot be a catholic priest still today and they didnt have the right to vote until 1920! If you dont think a church or the law can be wrong about the treatment of gays take a dive into history and think for yourself...
I'm hetrosexual and christian. I used to disagree with gay marriage. Now I feel that love between two people can only be from god. Gay christians need support from the straights as satan looks to divide people with fear and ignorance. God bless you all
I'm sorry but I am a bisexual girl and I choose not to pursue a relationship with any girl unless she's a Catholic who believes the same things as I do, meaning NO sex.
This is pretty awesome! Its good that there are videos on the web that show people that anything is possible, and that they are loved for who they are.
Thank you for mentioing the choice of celibacy for Side B. The ex-gay preachers act as though we could all go straight by choice, with perhaps the aid of therapy. I have had to choose celibacy myself, because my beliefs are on Side B.
i have a question what about LEVITICUS 20 13..... "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
...I DONT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINtS GAY PEOPLE im just asking ^^
what's the verus for those by the way, i've seen them but don't know where they are at, i have a bisexual friend that believes in god, i'm straight and not sure about the holy spirit changin people or not in not in that way
Thanks for this great video. I'm a Christian and as a Catholic I disagree with ToleDragoon because I think as a Catholic I have to try to search for and then follow God's point of view not the Pope's (no disrespect intended)
I'd go with "God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God" (1John4,16) - we can't judge other people's love.
If I had children and they'd be gay I'd just say "I love you and I'll always support you"
there is no problem with being gay and being a christian....i think. my logic in this belief, is that the bible clearly says that god knew us all before we were born. God new us by name before we even knew are own names!! so why whould god (who created us all so that he could love us, and so that we may love him) create somebody who by simply being born that way. your born gay its not a choice. if im wrong or there is bibical facts that support me being incorrect. then by all means tell me.
It's funny when you think about it...How do fundamentalists view homosexuals that are celebate? I mean...they aren't engaging in the sex act, so then are they condemned? I believe that most people judge someone's orientation on the sexual act and not on the person in general.
It becomes something of an enigma to those who would condemn those who claim to be homosexual yet do not practice sexual behavior...wouldn't it?
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It is my belief that homosexuality is allowed, can't change anything about that, but that homosexual acts are not allowed.
As a Catholic, I'll have to follow the Pope's point of view, and it is more or less the same, as far as I know. What protestans believe, I do not know.
I don't anything against homosexuals, let that be clear.
I could care less what people decide to do in the private facets of their lives, however I find gay marriage to be problematic from a christian's perspective. If gays want to get legally married for the purposes of having the same rights as strait couples then I really don't care. If they want to stand before God and vow to be committed to something which the bible describes as an abomination, I find that to be sacrilegious. If youre not a christian then the latter is irrelevant.
if you do more research on the bible homosexual acts arnt condemned at least thats what i believe as long as they are in a comiited monogamous relationship i recomend reading mel whites pdf you can get it on google its called what the bible does and doesnt say about homosexuality
Actually homosexuality is the act of sexual acts between two people of the same sex. It can be a choice or not a choice. But being homosexual isn't a choice. I have understood that some definition don't separate the different and combine the two. But the bible does! homosexuality is a new age word and was translated into the bible. The original versus are for mankind to lie with mankind as with womankind and for womankind to lie with womankind. With is talking about sexual acts.
Being homosexual or heterosexual is about who you are attracted to, and doesn't mean you have to have sex with whoever you are attracted to. It more of a mental or emotional well-being. You don't have to be homosexual to committed homosexuality.
So then you would have homosexuals to live miserable lives alone without love or companionship. If you have something against homosexuals in loving relationships then you have something against homosexuals. It is no different when many sexists tell me that they have nothing against women but say that they do not like me out of the home. Or when a racist told me that they did not hate Black people they just hated the ones that act "black" whatever that is supposed to mean.
I come in peace. Not a hate monger, homophobe, or a republican. I am a Christian: A representative of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, A citizen of the Kingdom of God, and A son of The Most High. Praise be to His Holy Name. Amen. With peace in my heart and in love I must disagree with the notion that homosexuality is not sin. Romans chapter 1:18-32 bears this out plainly. It is indeed the result of and is sin. Your belief in God is only part of the journey. devils also believe and tremble.
If the Bible has been mistranslated, or parts missing, wouldnt that point to a need for an authorized servant of Jesus Christ, like an Apostle, to continue clarifying the 'missing' pieces of doctrine, or parts that might be misinterpreted?
I use to be part of the majority of people, thinking that homosexuality and christian are mutually exclusive. But, I completely disagree with that sect of thinking @_@ . This clip was very helpful Justin.
Yeah I believed like many people that being gay and christian were mutually exclusive. But I've come to believe that they aren't, and many people are coming around and many churches are forming because of this new belief. I also believe this is just the beginning:)
I struggle with this truth, everyday. It is extremely hard to live the life we are called to live, but I believe our path is celibacy and chastity.
Homosexuality isn't a choice, but homosexuals do have a choice when it comes to their actions.
The scriptures are Gods word, and they frown upon homosexual acts, but not homosexuals.
If one day, I find someone who I fall madly in love with- and who loves me back just the same- I pray that God will give us the strength to love his word more.
First, concerning chastity. It's not an accident that the sex scandals happened in the Catholic Church. Repression leads, almost by definition, to perversion.
"The scriptures are Gods word, and they frown upon homosexual acts, but not homosexuals."
Not true. In the NT, lust is fully equated with adultery, as you must know.
But you may want to keep in mind that Jesus never said a word about gays. In fact, he extended love and tolerance to everyone.
Yup Chrysothemis I agree, the idea of someone repressing their sexual urges is worrying to say the least and generally ends badly. The idea of people wanting to control other people's sex and love lives is even more perverse. I personally think people may believe whatever they want as long as they do not impose it upon anyone else or let it influence their decisions, in other more famous words: "You can have imaginary friends, just don't force them upon me" :)
I highly recommend "Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality" by John Boswell; "Openly Gay Openly Christian" by Rev. Samuel Kader; "What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality" by Daniel A. Helminiak, Ph.D.; "Thou Shalt Not Love: What Evangelicals Really Say to Gays" by Patrick M. Chapman, Ph.D..
I am not gay, and I am not a Christian. But there can be no God of Love whose followers must suffer a lifetime of lonliness because of their sexual orientation. A God of love wouldn't want his believers to suffer. Thus, either the Bible is grossly misinterpreted, which I believe it is, or God is one sick, twisted, prankster.
You know, at the beginning it was hard for me to understand or believe all this. I'm gay, but I thought it was wrong. But after trying for many years to change it, without any success, I have no choice than believe all this. I can't change been gay, but I can't leave Jesus either. I have a question... I've heard Jesus talked about gay people in Mathew 19:12... can this be possible?? (sorry about any mistakes... english is not my first language) Thank you...
Matthew 19:12 - Jesus talks about eunuchs. Some people do believe that he was referring to Gay people. But more importantly, Jesus was deliberately defying strict Jewish tradition (as set forth in Leviticus) by Baptizing eunuchs - who were considered "impure" by Orthodox Jews.
Finally!!! I've found a gay Christian who wants to talk openly and honestly about their faith in Jesus Christ. Honest dialogue between straight and gay Christians allows them to find shared Christian experience. When Christians share their faith with one another that shared experience drives out hate and promotes acceptance and love. Keep up the good work.
I like churches that welcome everybody whether they are gay or not. But the gay pride flag and blessing of same sex unions does get a little carried away
remusnigga 3 weeks ago
side A!
Jessiswhoiam831 3 weeks ago in playlist Gay Christian Answers
Hey there... I was praying this morning for clarity in this matter, Wonderful work.... I promise to continue praying and searching. Thanks.
tainorebelde1 1 month ago
Thank you Justin
nintendonerd2011 1 month ago
I am gay and I truly believe in God and Jesus even though I lean towards "side B". Maybe it seems hypocritical because most of my life I have had relationships with men, but there is something in me that doesn't feel 100% comfortable about it. I love my gay community, but sometimes I wonder...
LuminousPhenomenon 2 months ago
I'm not gay but I support gay people (no matter what religion they are) and I get a lot of crap from people around me saying that I don't truly believe in God (be of Christian faith) or I'm disobeying him in some way if I'm supporting gay rights, among other reasons that are unrelated to this topic. But I'm glad you made this channel. And I subbed, I'd like to learn more about this topic. Thanks for sharing!
SpiritualRaiin 2 months ago
I'm very anti-religious, but I have nothing against people who do believe, and thank you for being one of the few people that are making people see that idiots like WBC aren't to be an example for religious people
theyneverknow 2 months ago
Thank you for this! I have really been struggling with the fact that I am attracted to girls bit also love God and want to serve Him! This was helpful and encouraging!
startinglifenew2011 2 months ago
I wish god would of made all the gay men women. There is just way too many men in this world :'(
RayWalls76 3 months ago
I am Side B because of 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.
IsmailaGodHasHeard1 3 months ago
Christians ARE gay.
TehReyMan 3 months ago
Interesting statement. As a Gay agnostic, I think the explanation provided is good, but I remain skeptical.
dij7878 3 months ago
I'm not gay
But God bless mate!
I keep getting into arguments with my Sunday School teachers about this
I usually win though :3
Redeemedsinner17 3 months ago
Yay for side A! ;)
ballonenciel 3 months ago
I think it would advance the cause of gay Christians if they stood up and defended Christ from all of the leftwing Christ-bashing that takes place, against the supercilious dismissal of Jesus as if only a fangle-toothed hillbilly would believe in Him. That kind of behavior infuriates Christians who must struggle with the sin of resentment, even hatred, as a consequence. Gay Christians need to stand with other disciples, not against them. Everybody respects boldness for the Lord.
Planetar17 5 months ago
I'm straight and hoping to convert to Christianity soon enough but I'd choose Side A no matter what :) ♥
naureensd 6 months ago
I'm a devout Christian, and I really want to believe that being Christian and bisexual wouldn't offend God. I'm always told that it's wrong, and I HATE that people think I'm confused. I've had crushes on females since elementary school, I just did, it wasn't a choice.
I LOVE Jesus, and I try my best to be a great daughter of God, and I strongly dislike that I wish to be openly bi, but probably can't because of my conservative christian parents and spriritual siblings.
TheDarkMitzuki 6 months ago
Side A
wishiwashi7 6 months ago
I am a catholic side B, but I think that side B and side A can both go to heaven I just think if u r christian then it is better to honor Gods commandments and strive to live a life as sin-free as possible
MamaMario13 7 months ago
im gay and christian, God loves us all.
SpiderNigs 7 months ago
Side A <3
alexanderjamesninnim 8 months ago
I would love to know where these txt are I need to see and post them on my blog and also tell my parents
testchrome1994 8 months ago
@testchrome1994 I think a lot of the information you're looking for can be found on our website under "The Great Debate."
GayChristianNetwork 7 months ago
@GayChristianNetwork Pauls letters only mention the romans commiting public acts of heterosexuals commiting homosexual intimate behavior in public (pretending to be homosexuals, which is deciet) -The common practice of roman authorities, which is lusting and adultery. His letters make no mention of homosexuals remaining homosexuals. I do believe that there is nothing morally wrong with beiing attracted to other men but celibacy is important to ALL christians.
SuperFifthwheel 7 months ago
Great video, I'll bet it will help alot of gay people who want to be religious do so.
twinkie13st 9 months ago
i'm straight
fdrpyahoocom 9 months ago
How can gays be good Christians if you aren't supposed to have sex before marriage, but gays can't be married?
zOMGLaserGunzPewPew 9 months ago
@zOMGLaserGunzPewPew marriage is a promise, a sign of love, and a commitment, not pieces of legal papers.
RedDragon033195 6 months ago
@zOMGLaserGunzPewPew Which is why gay marriage should be allowed.
1peterkim123 5 months ago
@zOMGLaserGunzPewPew Umm I have a few things to say to you. 1) Gay people can get married in some states and Canada, remember? 2) Gay people can wait to have sex until they are committed to each other in some way. You really think God is too small to navigate that predicament?
phoenixblack19 4 months ago
side a
AC12CA180 10 months ago
Cool video, also you look like Lex Lutor from the tv show Smallville and that is not a bad thing.
sckmagic7 11 months ago
@sckmagic7 *gasp* he DOES! =o lol i loved that show :)
lemonsnickers1 10 months ago
Question: im on the side A of this debate but the problem i see is that if you are gay and you are practicing "being gay" how can you get married to the person you love if no one will allow you to be married. so in the end you are forced to live in celibacy or commit a sin having sex with the one you love. so my question is how can you practice being gay if you are not allowed to marry?
SquirlVoiceBlackKid 11 months ago
" the problem i see is that if you are gay and you are practicing "being gay" how can you get married to the person you love if no one will allow you to be married."
Five states allow same gender marriage and even those that don't allow informal marriage ceremonies, allowing the couple an intimate life free of sin.
clay56 11 months ago
@SquirlVoiceBlackKid
I think a person can be gay and have a monogamous relationship, with fidelity. Interesting question.
LasLatinidades 11 months ago
Thank you for helping to facilitate an open, rational debate on the topic. Being heterosexual and agnostic, I am obviously neither for nor against, but the debate is interesting because of the issues involved, and the individuals involved, and it is pleasant to see it take place under such civilized conditions.
Thumbs up on that.
11235813aabchm 11 months ago
That goes for all of us who are struggling with sin.
Vivalacious 11 months ago
You can easily adopt the doctrine, but you have to not only talk the talk, but walk the walk.
Vivalacious 11 months ago
I'm not sure where I fall on the A/B Great Debate. I've thought about this a lot, and I would definitely say that same-sex relationships are essential. I think celibacy is incredibly isolating. On the other hand, I also think that we as Christians are called to chastity. It's not a gay/straight thing, it's just one of the main virtues. So, chaste partnership. Did I just invent a "Side C"?
DalisYT 1 year ago
why does it seem that if your going to have a relationship it HAS to include sex?
cittiavaticano 1 year ago
@cittiavaticano
Very good answer.
LasLatinidades 11 months ago
It's important we not forget the efforts of heterosexual advocates like Peggy and Tony Campolo who are reaching out to create bridges between gay Christian advocates and opponents, Coretta Scott King (the late wife of Rev Martin Luther King), the Rev. James Lawson and John C. Holbert . These and other gay supportive individuals have helped gay Christians make great strides in the growth of gay affirming and welcoming churches, not the least of which are the Lutheran and Episcopal assemblies.
clay56 1 year ago
yes you can.
jasonwkeller76 1 year ago
@GayChristianNetwork I'am a Christian and I have an honest question concerning homosexuality and the bible. How sure are you personally that same sex relationships are in accordance with scripture? I ask this having read/listened to Mel white, jack Rogers, Troy perry, Rick Brentlinger etc...They formulate their arguments to sound convincing but the refutations of these arguments by others such as Dr. Robert gagnon, John MacArthur and others seem to have strong biblical support. Thanks
Pursuitofwisdom 1 year ago
Hi Justin just wanted to say that I have been totally blessed by your videos and just looking at you although you are very good looking, I can see that Gods love shines out from you and thank you so much im sure you have helped so many in a kind loving christian way (the way it was ment to be)
daycap 1 year ago
As a straight Christian, I believe you can be a gay Christian. What I cannot countenance is watered down Christianity. There are people who call themselves Christians, but basically believe anything goes. They don't preach against fornication or adultery, they basically just preach love love love. Of course, I believe in Christ's love, but there are rules by which we must live in order to understand true happiness.
plutogirllovekj 1 year ago
@plutogirllovekj
Yeah I agree, a god that afirms every one of our beliefs is a fantasy of the ego. God does not hate sinners but he doesn't tolerate sin.
Jim1905 1 year ago
VERY well explained. Thanks for posting. :-)
Boosteroid 1 year ago
interesting. i'd like to know what your take on this position is. would be very helpful brother. i believe those verses weren't misinterpreted. homosexuality is a sin. however, i believe it is natural. the same way we have a sinful nature. so that means, you and i are on the same boat as i sinfully lust after the opposite sex. now that we're both on equal ground, what's left? repentance. it is still wrong but not to the point of hell. but we better FIGHT it and live a life of repentance.
nantapatt 1 year ago
@nantapatt It sounds like you are what we call a "Side B" gay Christian. There are many members of GCN who share your opinion. I encourage you to read "The Great Debate" on the GCN website.
-Michael O
GCN Intern
GayChristianNetwork 1 year ago
@GayChristianNetwork thank you sir. will definitely do that
nantapatt 1 year ago
Jesus would be completely against the discriminations radical Christian do to LGBT members.
Trocker7 1 year ago
I really wish your video had more than 32K views. I've known to many Christians who have turned their back on religion because of subjects like this. Jesus loves everyone and people can't understand that. When it comes time for God to judge me I will say, "I loved everyone as I love myself, as you commanded me to in Mark 12:31" I think that would be better than saying, "I hated people because you hinted at that in obscure passages in the old testament." Love not H8!
ondfritz2 1 year ago
@ondfritz2 lol
-Michael O
GCN Intern
GayChristianNetwork 1 year ago
@ondfritz2 We are saved by changing our mind about all of our sins and accepting Jesus as our Friend, God, Lord, and Savior.
IsmailaGodHasHeard1 3 months ago
If Gay people are so wrong and evil, then why would God make them that way? Isn't that what the bible says? God made everyone just the way he wanted them? and anyways, people DONT CHOOSE to be gay, your born that way, I Know from experience, I've grown up knowing there was something different about me and I've finally realized what it is, and chose to EMBRACE it and my life is so much better.
mmfreak15 1 year ago
@mmfreak15 Couldn't agree with you more. Being gay is not a choice and it should be embraced by people who are gay so they can have full and rewarding lives.
GavDuggan1983 11 months ago
I wanted to say thank you for this organization. I'm a straight Christian and it makes me so sad when I hear people condemning gays to Hell. It's ignorant and hurtful and the opposite of what Christ taught.
I go to a Catholic school and I'm the only one there who believes gays can be Christians. It makes me really sad.
I'll direct some of them to these videos and your website. Thank you so much for everything you do. God bless
IDreamOf98 1 year ago
i support you and your work! As the son of a minister and straight....being gay and christian is fine no difference keep working hard!
maxbiteme 1 year ago
I'm a Christian on a college campus. Recently I've become friends with the president of the GLBT group on campus and have attended a function in memorial of those who've died as a result of homophobic bullying. I believe God has put it in my heart to understand GLBT's and to do what I can to heal the bitter divide between gays and Christians. God bless you in what you are doing and I pray that our Lord leads us both to greater understanding of His truth.
backwoodsninja 1 year ago
Thank you for having this youtube page. I am so happy I can seek for answers and find them. I most likely will be emailing you guys soon. I am in the process of figuring out how to come out. again thank you. :)
WiiLittleRobert 1 year ago
thanks! That was well thought out and well presented!!
TODnMO 1 year ago
Thank you so much for this video. Puts into words what I believe and makes me stop hating myself so much.
WeAllLovePineapples 1 year ago
As a Christian, this is extremely interesting to me! I'm still unsure about how I feel about this issue.
theimprovpoet 1 year ago
what is a side A and side B Christian? A christian is a christian...a person who wants to have a deep relationship with Yahweh. Don't segregate any more than it already is. I'm not gay and i don't see any scripture against being gay...i see scripture against fornicating, adultery, prostitution, whore mongering and effeminates (could be misconstrued as homosexual?) just my opinion ;)
pondfrog3 1 year ago
Justin, thank you for the clips and I pray that the Lord allows you to continue to make them. As a homosexual myself, I'm always struggling with the issue of being gay and christian. I've tried the celibacy thing and to this day it just makes me feel absolutely alone; especially when I read in Genesis that "Man was not meant to be alone".
I've tried different methods to try to turn straight, but I was only fooling myself. In the end, I was still gay. I'm glad to know what you're teaching. The
Pzykowulf 1 year ago
i aM on your side but i am not on the side of gays i am on side b
karinavyrlan98 1 year ago
In my opinion, even if you are gay and have a gay relationship, you are just as permitted to the Kingdom of Heaven as any strait person. Even if you are a side b, and believe gay relationships are sinnacle, Jesus died for our sins correct? Yes. so even if it is a sin, Jesus forgives you are you can go to Heaven. But above all I believe that if you seek God, you will find him.
rjdawg19 1 year ago
im SOOOO side A
scott33195 1 year ago
Iam a side B gay. whoot
Jeremiah5063 1 year ago
Actually gay marriage is legal in five states. And the Lutheran and Episcopal churches are part of a growing number of institutions opening their doors to gay members.
clay56 1 year ago
side A or side B...doesnt matter, if u seek God you will find him
saucegg 1 year ago
@saucegg finally, someone who has beliefs that are more realisitic. i mean ive been seeing people that say "if your beliefs are not exactly my beliefs then you are going to Hell." you are actually one of the first intellegent christians ive met.
scott33195 1 year ago
thank you for what you do GayChristianNetwork! God so love and favor your ministry! you're like Christ himself, reaching out to the least of people and include everyone in the salvation plan! Halleluya to our King who conceals His ways to the sophisticates and know-it-alls but reveals them to ordinary people like you and me.
TheGuilanvi 1 year ago
I'm a Christian and I think that the Bible can be interpreted on a variety of levels. Perhaps what these negative portrayals of homosexuals in the bible are alluding to sexual debauchery, i.e. sins that can be committed by anyone no matter what their sexuality is. The Bible cannot be just passively accepted just like any other book; it has to be actively studied and pondered. So someone claiming that bible disallows homosexuality has neglected to consider its metaphorical implications.
mcoi34 1 year ago
Christianity teaches us to love ourselves and each other. In my view it's about relationship, rather than searching, a relationship with the Lord. For me, fear, hatred and anger, are things that blocked God, there the purscution of homosexuals, is not in my view biblical. However, I believe that sexual lust can also block relationship with the Lord, or sexual shame and guilt, in addition to that I think pride and vanity also may block peace with the Lord.
MrMatthew554 1 year ago
while I myself am not a christian (aetheist actually) and Im bi, I respect your views..
However, what does the church feel about bisexuals. this coming from a curious man of course. nothing more.
XarynLucifer 1 year ago
Why do gay men shave their heads?
unfathomableinquiry 1 year ago
I think the better question is: Can one be intelligent and Christian? Despite strong evidence to the contrary, yes - I have actually met some Christian-identified people who are quite intelligent and even decent. Some have actually been straight. So we mustn't lump all Christians into one "bible thumping, half-wit" category. People can choose their religion but straight people did not choose how they are so it's important to be patient with them - especially the less evolved ones.
3investigators 1 year ago
Having gay attraction is not inherently wrong, but indulging in those unnatural and ungodly attractions, whether by thought or action is wrong. A gay person is not necessarily condemned, but a practicing gay is. The bible says that they will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
Danthemanlyman7 1 year ago
@Danthemanlyman7 It sounds like you are what we call a "Side B" Christian. GCN not only tolerates this view, but supports people with it as long as they are tolerant of other who are looking for answers, even if those answers are different than their own. To learn more about "Side B" Christians, you can read "The Great Debate" on the GCN website.
-Michael
GCN Intern
GayChristianNetwork 1 year ago
@GayChristianNetwork i say that loveing someone is not a sin but hate is
TheWordOfHomosexuity 1 year ago
@GayChristianNetwork Thank you for interpreting God's word in a beautiful and truthful way! Too many Christians say that homosexuality is the worst of all sins and should be condemned. It breaks my heart when my gay friends think that all Christians are close-minded and that God is a hateful being. You are a beautiful person inside and out and God loves you! That's the best thing about being a Christian, God loves us no matter what becasue Jesus died for our sins xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
kittycatcarley 11 months ago
@kittycatcarley
Thank you very much to be an understanding person. Happily, persons are beginning to see many gay men are searching for or maintaining a life of monogamous relationship, with respect and fidelity.
LasLatinidades 11 months ago
@Danthemanlyman7 so true
infernape425 1 year ago
@Danthemanlyman7 excellent. well put.
buttfuckbilbo 1 year ago
@Sidney38SNJ I was making a (lame) joke.
DalisYT 1 year ago
Hey, Ian,
Such is what a lot of people on both ends of the spiritual gap say about each other a good bit of the time. Personally, Im all to happy to leave it up to God to decide which is (more) true.
clay56 1 year ago
I sincerely thank you for posting this. Growing up Southern Baptist but identifying as a lesbian has been tumultuous, to say the least.
beckaflo 1 year ago
Hi Justin ;)
daycap 1 year ago
As a completely straight Christian(Southern even), I'm a side A on this issue. I don't believe that being homosexual is a sin. I may just be too nice or something, but I never felt that it was right to think of someone as bad, or that they cannot make it to heaven, just because of their sexual orientation alone, despite how commonly it is preached against homosexuality.
@ anonymityismyname: It's NOT the religion itself; it's only the people that won't accept them. Jesus says to love, not hate.
kerdoi 1 year ago
NOT all heterosexual Christians condemn homosexuals. The United Church of Christ and the Alliance of Baptists are open and affirming churches. They are two of MANY examples of a growing, inexorable religous left. :)
clay56 1 year ago
Gays are called to CHASTITY and frequent sacraments. God accepts no compromise.
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
It sounds like you're Side B. You can find more information about that on our website.
Michael
GCN Intern
GayChristianNetwork 1 year ago
@AtomicMonster454 really? pretty sure that God wouldnt give a person a sexual desire and then not let them express who he created them to be. I have a asexual friend, now that make more sense to me that he is called to chastity. But i think its pretty objective and ignorant to just say this is how they should live, because i dont know if the answer is that black and white.
kingdomtheology 1 year ago
@AtomicMonster454 It sounds like you are what we call a "Side B" Christian. GCN not only tolerates this view, but supports people with it as long as they are tolerant of other who are looking for answers, even if those answers are different than their own. To learn more about "Side B" Christians, you can read "The Great Debate" on the GCN website.
-Michael
GCN Intern
GayChristianNetwork 1 year ago
@AtomicMonster454 Gays would be more than happy to marry...if it could be legal and if priests allows gays into Mass.
jonathan0012345 1 year ago
If your gay why can't you hate established christianity like most gay people.
I wish you were an athiest.
Good luck on being brave and fighting for your place in a religion that probably will never truly accept you.
anonymityismyname 1 year ago
Hey, if I'm on the fence about whether or not I as a Christian should pursue a homosexual relationship (and I'm pretty accepting of it ight now), does that make me type AB+?
DalisYT 1 year ago
xplain those versus to me please.
noel720104 1 year ago
That comes after 1st. Corinthians 14:31-34 in which Paul says women are forbidden by God to speak during church meetings, meaning churches that permit such are VERY arguably in sin. But IF God does allow for this to change so that the Faith may be preserved, what ELSE may He so do?
clay56 2 years ago
All have sinned, if you trusted in the Gospel (1 cor 15:1-4) then you are saved, gay or not.
GPAPoetics 2 years ago
disagreed
Lawgiver777 1 year ago
Multiple marriage and owning of concubine were acceptable practices in Biblical times eventhough they are regarded as morally reprehensible now. The Bible can be used to justify BOTH side A and side B Christians.
clay56 2 years ago
side b.
the bible clearly states homosexuality is a sin.
sometimes you cant control what you feel, but you can control what you do.
and maybe thats a test god is putting you through...
karlanderik 2 years ago
@karlanderik It's not a test. It never states it is a "sin." It just calls it an abomination, which meant something different in that time period. God loves EVERYONE! (:
ThatJENNAchick 1 year ago
@karlanderik
"maybe thats a test god is putting you through... "
Then that is the hardest most cruel test ever conceived. Can you imagine not being allowed to fall in love? To live life not sharing it with anyone? Some people have the gift of solitude but according to Paul, not very many, and he recommended people to marry. God made Eve because it wasn't good for Adam to be alone. So homosexuals are condemned to do so?
F0reseer 1 year ago
side b for me
it's true, it's hard to control how you feel, but you can control what you DO.
i don't believe you can 'accept' it and continue to live your life that way
just as i believe someone who has lustful urges should accept that and be promiscuous
as christians, we are called to change and be set apart
sometimes this means going against what feels 'natural' or 'right'
if you believe that the Bible is God's authoritative word, you believe that.
love to all
GoldenbanjoDJ 2 years ago
aaa
opsvideo2008 2 years ago
I totally have that jacket lol
lieutenantValera 2 years ago
Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not to your own understanding!!! Every word in the Bible holds true!
MsBubblegirly 2 years ago
please help me.. Im struggling and hurting because im gay and i dont wanna be one.. Its just so painful you know.. I always pray that god can fix me soon. I want to be inlove but not with a guy again. It felt wrong and then i am crying every night asking what if im straight and it just hurts me knowing that i just have to deal with this for the rest of my life. I love my family so much that i cried so much when my mom found out i was dating a guy.
wakookok 2 years ago
i know its hard, with some ppl not accepting u, and it may seem like no one supports u. but remember that there ARE ppl out there who are totally ok with the way u are. im straight, but i definitely know how u feel. remember that God loves everyone. Hes not gunna kick u out of a chance at heaven because of ur attractions. thats just not the way He is. He created everyone as equals, with equal chances at heaven.
simzproductionz 1 year ago
Very important that you're there.
Gaygreetings from Holebis ♥♂♂,♀♀♥
Holebis 2 years ago
1919 was the year when the catholic church opened the doors to blacks and removed the theory that they were designed by god to be slaves! Then 49 years later "1968" they had full equality under the law... A woman cannot be a catholic priest still today and they didnt have the right to vote until 1920! If you dont think a church or the law can be wrong about the treatment of gays take a dive into history and think for yourself...
JoeyBoya 2 years ago
I'm hetrosexual and christian. I used to disagree with gay marriage. Now I feel that love between two people can only be from god. Gay christians need support from the straights as satan looks to divide people with fear and ignorance. God bless you all
benalchemist74 2 years ago
This is an awesome statement. :) thank you
Jenniferchelle24 2 years ago
@benalchemist74
Very kind of you,
God Bless!!!
blainebill39 1 year ago
You know what, In general i cannot stand when people interperate the bible to defend their own predjudices!
PrincessofCheap 2 years ago
I'm sorry but I am a bisexual girl and I choose not to pursue a relationship with any girl unless she's a Catholic who believes the same things as I do, meaning NO sex.
dianjc 2 years ago
But what i find amusing is God Bless us with a conscience.
The knowledge of good and evil is written on our Hearts and sin is knocking at everyones door.
TonyTrackTv 2 years ago
why would u want or need to be christian, especially with the stigma tied to it. come on gays!
TheRetardedChristian 2 years ago
man youre awesome...GOD BLESS
navas015 2 years ago
Interesting. But, why use the words "Parents' FAULT" ? As if being Gay is a failure. That aside. Good job.
HitheLineFighton 2 years ago
great=]
TheVeganheathen 2 years ago
This is pretty awesome! Its good that there are videos on the web that show people that anything is possible, and that they are loved for who they are.
Tetheas 2 years ago
The high rate of suicide is in the "Gay Christian Community." No other faiths other then Islam and Jew does not have that high rate of suicide.
AstroMen2911 2 years ago
Good vid.
Very insightful.
blahmaen 2 years ago
They can be anything they want to be. God is unconditional love for everybody. He does not hate or judge.
Frogstomp121 2 years ago
Thank you for mentioing the choice of celibacy for Side B. The ex-gay preachers act as though we could all go straight by choice, with perhaps the aid of therapy. I have had to choose celibacy myself, because my beliefs are on Side B.
alvinf1 2 years ago
You will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free.
grannyvonng 2 years ago
i have a question what about LEVITICUS 20 13..... "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
...I DONT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINtS GAY PEOPLE im just asking ^^
coopcali 2 years ago
Awesome video. This is just what I needed to here.
MegaRepublican 2 years ago
what's the verus for those by the way, i've seen them but don't know where they are at, i have a bisexual friend that believes in god, i'm straight and not sure about the holy spirit changin people or not in not in that way
SupaManCA 2 years ago
Wonderful video! This really explains things well and will help so many people. God bless!!
TheChristianView 2 years ago
Thanks for this great video. I'm a Christian and as a Catholic I disagree with ToleDragoon because I think as a Catholic I have to try to search for and then follow God's point of view not the Pope's (no disrespect intended)
I'd go with "God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God" (1John4,16) - we can't judge other people's love.
If I had children and they'd be gay I'd just say "I love you and I'll always support you"
Thanks again.
TheKathy33 2 years ago
wish there were more people like you out there
nagchampafreak 2 years ago
What an amazing channel. So informative and unbiased.
=) You're amazing!
God Bless you for doing such a wonderful thing.
OnEarthTravel 2 years ago
I like GCN.. you are good.. in this work. I am christian catholic. I believe God loves us
supernatural2029 2 years ago
Very good vid - espesially that you point out some gay christians are on both sides ( A and B)
ARNDTA 2 years ago
there is no problem with being gay and being a christian....i think. my logic in this belief, is that the bible clearly says that god knew us all before we were born. God new us by name before we even knew are own names!! so why whould god (who created us all so that he could love us, and so that we may love him) create somebody who by simply being born that way. your born gay its not a choice. if im wrong or there is bibical facts that support me being incorrect. then by all means tell me.
alivsfrazier12 2 years ago
It's funny when you think about it...How do fundamentalists view homosexuals that are celebate? I mean...they aren't engaging in the sex act, so then are they condemned? I believe that most people judge someone's orientation on the sexual act and not on the person in general.
It becomes something of an enigma to those who would condemn those who claim to be homosexual yet do not practice sexual behavior...wouldn't it?
PhourQ 2 years ago
Thanks so much for clearing up that whole bible thing about gay people.
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saltyTRUTHseeker 2 years ago
It is my belief that homosexuality is allowed, can't change anything about that, but that homosexual acts are not allowed.
As a Catholic, I'll have to follow the Pope's point of view, and it is more or less the same, as far as I know. What protestans believe, I do not know.
I don't anything against homosexuals, let that be clear.
ToleDragoon 2 years ago
I could care less what people decide to do in the private facets of their lives, however I find gay marriage to be problematic from a christian's perspective. If gays want to get legally married for the purposes of having the same rights as strait couples then I really don't care. If they want to stand before God and vow to be committed to something which the bible describes as an abomination, I find that to be sacrilegious. If youre not a christian then the latter is irrelevant.
CamNic01 2 years ago
Us Baptists believe that gay acts are the same as any other sin, no worse, but that gays should not act on there feelings.
MrWiiPS360 2 years ago
if you do more research on the bible homosexual acts arnt condemned at least thats what i believe as long as they are in a comiited monogamous relationship i recomend reading mel whites pdf you can get it on google its called what the bible does and doesnt say about homosexuality
bluemew88888 2 years ago
Actually homosexuality is the act of sexual acts between two people of the same sex. It can be a choice or not a choice. But being homosexual isn't a choice. I have understood that some definition don't separate the different and combine the two. But the bible does! homosexuality is a new age word and was translated into the bible. The original versus are for mankind to lie with mankind as with womankind and for womankind to lie with womankind. With is talking about sexual acts.
uraine7626 2 years ago
Being homosexual or heterosexual is about who you are attracted to, and doesn't mean you have to have sex with whoever you are attracted to. It more of a mental or emotional well-being. You don't have to be homosexual to committed homosexuality.
uraine7626 2 years ago
So then you would have homosexuals to live miserable lives alone without love or companionship. If you have something against homosexuals in loving relationships then you have something against homosexuals. It is no different when many sexists tell me that they have nothing against women but say that they do not like me out of the home. Or when a racist told me that they did not hate Black people they just hated the ones that act "black" whatever that is supposed to mean.
0Sindel12 2 years ago
So you think you have the right to control what I do in MY bedroom?
brianh406 2 years ago
I second that. What I do, or think is morally right is between ME and GOD. No one else.
SlaveCharolette 2 years ago
In Protestantism the Pope doesn't have the same authority as in Catolicism.
In Denmark, where I live, there are actually lots of homosexual priests. Also it is soon going to be possible for gays to marry in a church.
DSkovS 2 years ago
what denomination of christians are they?
i just want to know :D
foxylove91 2 years ago
yeah, I am gay and a Christian
What is the problem?
jrr3344 2 years ago
I come in peace. Not a hate monger, homophobe, or a republican. I am a Christian: A representative of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, A citizen of the Kingdom of God, and A son of The Most High. Praise be to His Holy Name. Amen. With peace in my heart and in love I must disagree with the notion that homosexuality is not sin. Romans chapter 1:18-32 bears this out plainly. It is indeed the result of and is sin. Your belief in God is only part of the journey. devils also believe and tremble.
INofearU 2 years ago
im not gay but tottally agree wit this!! everybody need to be watchin this!
monii98 2 years ago
great video
AzureMarieMMFWCL 2 years ago
Homosexuality is not a choice. It sickens me that there are people out there who still condemn it.
ThisIsRysta 2 years ago
If the Bible has been mistranslated, or parts missing, wouldnt that point to a need for an authorized servant of Jesus Christ, like an Apostle, to continue clarifying the 'missing' pieces of doctrine, or parts that might be misinterpreted?
anti0stupid0people 2 years ago
so glad i found this channel
kalane 2 years ago
love ya guys
716MamiBoo 2 years ago
I use to be part of the majority of people, thinking that homosexuality and christian are mutually exclusive. But, I completely disagree with that sect of thinking @_@ . This clip was very helpful Justin.
sizzlingpig 2 years ago
Yeah I believed like many people that being gay and christian were mutually exclusive. But I've come to believe that they aren't, and many people are coming around and many churches are forming because of this new belief. I also believe this is just the beginning:)
nhojjmusic 2 years ago
I struggle with this truth, everyday. It is extremely hard to live the life we are called to live, but I believe our path is celibacy and chastity.
Homosexuality isn't a choice, but homosexuals do have a choice when it comes to their actions.
The scriptures are Gods word, and they frown upon homosexual acts, but not homosexuals.
If one day, I find someone who I fall madly in love with- and who loves me back just the same- I pray that God will give us the strength to love his word more.
EverVigil 2 years ago
EverVigil -
First, concerning chastity. It's not an accident that the sex scandals happened in the Catholic Church. Repression leads, almost by definition, to perversion.
"The scriptures are Gods word, and they frown upon homosexual acts, but not homosexuals."
Not true. In the NT, lust is fully equated with adultery, as you must know.
But you may want to keep in mind that Jesus never said a word about gays. In fact, he extended love and tolerance to everyone.
(cont)
Chrysothemis 2 years ago
Chryso-Being attracted to someone is not lusting.
SavedCitizen 2 years ago
Yup Chrysothemis I agree, the idea of someone repressing their sexual urges is worrying to say the least and generally ends badly. The idea of people wanting to control other people's sex and love lives is even more perverse. I personally think people may believe whatever they want as long as they do not impose it upon anyone else or let it influence their decisions, in other more famous words: "You can have imaginary friends, just don't force them upon me" :)
sanethoughtspreader 2 years ago
I highly recommend "Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality" by John Boswell; "Openly Gay Openly Christian" by Rev. Samuel Kader; "What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality" by Daniel A. Helminiak, Ph.D.; "Thou Shalt Not Love: What Evangelicals Really Say to Gays" by Patrick M. Chapman, Ph.D..
Atlavocat 2 years ago
hmm u answered all my questions
andrelamy 2 years ago
I am not gay, and I am not a Christian. But there can be no God of Love whose followers must suffer a lifetime of lonliness because of their sexual orientation. A God of love wouldn't want his believers to suffer. Thus, either the Bible is grossly misinterpreted, which I believe it is, or God is one sick, twisted, prankster.
kaylasdaddy55 2 years ago
You know, at the beginning it was hard for me to understand or believe all this. I'm gay, but I thought it was wrong. But after trying for many years to change it, without any success, I have no choice than believe all this. I can't change been gay, but I can't leave Jesus either. I have a question... I've heard Jesus talked about gay people in Mathew 19:12... can this be possible?? (sorry about any mistakes... english is not my first language) Thank you...
eacyjil 2 years ago
Matthew 19:12 - Jesus talks about eunuchs. Some people do believe that he was referring to Gay people. But more importantly, Jesus was deliberately defying strict Jewish tradition (as set forth in Leviticus) by Baptizing eunuchs - who were considered "impure" by Orthodox Jews.
Atlavocat 2 years ago
Finally!!! I've found a gay Christian who wants to talk openly and honestly about their faith in Jesus Christ. Honest dialogue between straight and gay Christians allows them to find shared Christian experience. When Christians share their faith with one another that shared experience drives out hate and promotes acceptance and love. Keep up the good work.
Wade650 3 years ago