I love this vid so much! Here's something for the "Kurri Deniers" to chew on: In every season in which the Oilers won the first 4 Stanley Cups ('84, '85, '87 & '88), Kurri was #1 in the NHL in playoff goals scored. Then, in 1990, WITHOUT GRETZKY, he set up the overtime winner in game #1 of the Finals, then scored 3 goals and 2 assists in game #2. At the moment he left Edmonton in spring 1990, HE WAS #1 ALL-TIME in NHL playoff goals.
And that's not "woulda", "coulda", "shoulda"... that's DID.
You can't say what a player would or wouldn't have done in different circumstances; that is a meaningless discussion because any conclusions are baseless. What we can talk about is what DID happen, and Jari wasn't only playing with Gretzky, he was playing with other lines too, and produced regularly.
lol it's been like more than a year since I read these comments for the first time and tjcurrie is still here everyday trolling(I hope) how everyone were better than kurri
I give credit for your endurance, you must really hate the guy. Is this the only vid you are trolling or are you trashing every euro guy? Even don cherry has more objective views on the subject than you do. And that's bad.
It's also worth mentioning Kurri still played two tremendous seasons with the oilers after Gretzky was gone, putting similar numbers that he did with wayne. Or is playing with messier also cheating lol? In fact he outscored the whole team in 88-89, including Messier who is arguably the better player let's admit it. So I'd say it's stupid to try to take something off from kurri by saying he played with the best. The fact is he was an important factor in making oilers the best team of the 80's.
@tetsuokun Im not saying he wasnt important, and Im not saying he still wasnt a very good player. But "very good" isnt "great". He had the one 100 pt season after Gretzky left. Off the top of my head is was 102 points ? Very good for sure. But given the era, and given that he was reaching heights of 120-130 points and 60-70 goals with Wayne, rather than the 44 goals he peaked at after Wayne, that 102 points isnt all that special.He would have peaked at that. Not 130.
@tetsuokun Thhose 120-130 point seasons would have been 80-100 point seasons and his 50-70 goal seasons would have been 30- 45 or so instead. You could probably take 150 or so points off his totals. Some were saying "without Kurri there would be nno Gretzky". Thats pretty bogus. Wayne would have reached his heights with numerous wingers at that time. Im just saying Kurri gets too much credit. Yes he was good all round. But without Wayne he's probably 40th or so on the all-time points list.
@norsende You cant be serious. Gretzky tied Dionne for the lead league his 1st NHL season and did it without Kurri. Before joined with kurri, he won 2 Harts and an Art Ross, he had 3 more Art Ross Trophies and a Hart in L.A., he was the catalyst by far and there were numerous other wingers you could have paired with him. How many other centers could have replaced him for Kurri ? When your linemate is outscoring you by 70-80 points what the hell does that say ? Obviously you dont know much.
@Salkki1 Absolutely correct. Kurri was a very good player and Im not saying he would have went from 120-130 points to 40 points. But we likely would have seen his career go 85, 95, 90, 90, 100, 90, 85, 85,95,100, 95, etc. Not 90,100,120, 130, 130, 120,110, etc. Paul Coffey was more of a factor than Kurri. The way he brought the puck out of the zone and could jump into the play, he was more irreplaceable. Kurri was a real good winger who had great numbers.Lots of real good wingers back then.
@tetsuokun Can you imagine if Rob Brown would have played another 6 or 7 seasons with Mario Lemieux ? The guy would have had another 300 or so points to his totals and all of a sudden he would be talked about as such a wicked player. When in fact he was just decent. Of course Kurri was better than him but thats a good example.
Yeah Rob Brown is a very interesting case. Who knows what numbers he'd have had he played more with mario. But I tried to make a point that unlike Rob Brown, Kurri still produced when he played without his "master". I know you weren't implying Rob Brown was better than Kurri - but it's still a bad comparison for the reason stated. Kurri's points in Edmonton 88-90 were practically just as good as they were past couple seasons with Gretzky.
@tetsuokun Ya in no way am I comparing the two players. Im just using it as an example of a player who had more points because of his centerman. You can also look at Bernie Nicholls.The year before Wayne got to L.A. he had like 34 goals and 78 points.When Wayne got there he had 70 goals and 150 points. A real good player.But the numbers are an abberation while with Wayne. Kurri put up a couple good seasons without him,but that would have been his ceiling. Not the 120-130 pts and 50-70 goals.
@tetsuokun Even Dave Lumley went on abit of a tear playing with Gretzky. I think it was 81 or 82 he went on a 12 game scoring streak popping 15 goals. Again, Kurri is better than the player Im using as an example, but it shows what Gretzky did for people. Its hard to say a number but without a doubt Gretzky did the same for Kurri.A small window of astroaumical numbers is what separated Kurri from the rest of the pack. Without Wayne, those numbers dont happen and he's brought down to earth.
@marshallsimon Why dont they retire #16 for The Human Punchingbag Kelly Buchberger while theyre at it. Lowe was a serviceable Dman but I think thats going a little far. You gotta draw the line or youre gonna be retiring numbers left and right.
@TheJuhox That tells nothing. Thats a ridiculous statement. Lowe won 2 more Cups aswell. So is he better than Gretzky ? Get real. Gretzky went to a bad team and made them good. Kurri doesnt do that. Kurri hd to be part of something great to win. He wasnt great himself. If you think him winning another Cup and Gretzky not winning a Cup means anything then you're crazy. Do you know where Kurri would be without Gretzky ? Probably about 20 more spots down the all-time scoring list.
@kanervatie Well seems to me Gretzky had already made a name for himself before he and Kurri were paired up. And did pretty good for himself after he left edmonton aswell. Kurri, well the same cant be said for him. Without a doubt Kurri "helped" in the sense that he and Gretzky had chemistry. Chemistry "helps" anyone. But as far as Kurri being that good where he made Gretzky a better player, please. When youre being outscored by your linemate by 80 points, what does that tell you?
I think you are overreacting. I don't think anyone here is (except you) comparing Kurri's talent to Gretzky. You can't really compare anyone to Gretz. I dare say there was no winger in the NHL at that time who would've not been outscored by gretz in his line by a mile. Someone would have propably scored more than Kurri, but the line would not have been the same. Kurri was very important part of that line, and a succesful playoff team needs forwards like kurri who can play 2-way game.
Jari Kurri.... Wayne Gretzky... Jerome Iginla.... Miikka Kiprusoff... Teemu Selänne... Mario Lemieux... Patrick Roy.... Jere Lehtinen = one of the best ever in my oppinion
He wouldnt have won it anyways. He was probably the 5th best player on edmonton. Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Anderson, then Kurri. He's lucky he was playing alongside Gretzky or he wouldnt have had no 70 goals and 130 points.
Such ignorance. I dont know why I bother because you are either trolling or just ignorant. But here's few things you should know: 1) Kurri was oilers' best scorer even after Gretz left. 2) Saying Glenn Anderson is better than kurri is just silly 3) comparing to defenseman is also silly 4) Messier... well I think that's fair, but Kurri did score more points than he did.
I compared him to Coffey based on importance to the team. So ya, I can compare. Whos a better player for Detroit ? Cleary or Lidstrom ? There ya go. Point proven. Yes Anderson was better than Kurri. He was money. Balls out. Without playing with Gretzky. Lets put Kurri on the 2nd line and Messier back up with Gretzky, who do you think outscores who ? Messier was far more valuable.There were other wingers in the league who could have easily replaced Kurri.
ye but was mario lemiux, gordie howe, wayne gretzky or maurice richard ever good defensly, scoring that many points and goals and at the same time being great defensivly is fukking great jackass!
Well, he did. After Gretzky left he was the best player for oilers. Other great names played with gretz later in his career, no one ever came close to kurri.
Ha ha. Ya right. He was doin it before Kurri and he did it after Kurri. Kurri on the other hand, check his stats without Gretzky. A shadow of what they were with.
Jagr doesnt have to be a 2 way player to be better. Jagr was a franchise player. Kurri wasnt. Jere Lehtinen, who I love, is a great 2 way player. But that doesnt make him better than Ovechkin. As far as being the best Euro ever, no. Peter Stastny was better, Nick Lidstrom, Teemu Selanne, Sergei Fedorov, Pavel Bure, Peter Forsberg,Mats Sundin, Alex Ovechkin already, Jaromir Jagr. And if you wanna count goalies, which I dont like to compare, Dominek Hasek.
Obviously you rate players only by how much they have scored points, and you seem to have something serious against Kurri. No he wasn't the best player ever, not even top 10. Yes he was lucky to play with wayne. But my point is that because Kurri scored so many points, people often forgot he was a defensive player. Someone like Jagr would have propably scored more with gretz than kurri did (who knows?) but the line wouldn't work the same without Kurri defensive efforts. One of the best lines evr
Ignorance ? Sure buddy. Just because I dont agree with you ? Well you dont agree with me so I guess youre ignorant too right ? Thats fine Kurri was a 2way player. Like I said, so is Jere Lehtinen. It doesnt automatically make you better than more of a one way player. If you seriously think Kurri was better than Peter Stastny you sir are sadly mistaken.
Hell, even 'The Hockey News' famous top 100 players list ranks Kurri above Statsny. And also there is no Glenn Anderson on that list, as he doesn't belong there obviously, that would be just dumb. Of course it's just a list, but it's been put up by experts who propably follow hockey way more than you do (or I). True, it also ranks Jagr better than Kurri. I'm not qualified to make judgement which is better, just saying Kurri doesnt get enough credit. As your comments show for example.
@tetsuokun If you mean that list they made in '98, Yzerman isnt in the top 50. So that list is void.And take into account they look at Cups.Kurri has 5.Stastny has 0.That doesnt make Kurri better.Anderson scored more on his own merit rather than having Wayne help him.But theyre close so its debatable.Kurri was better 2way than Jagr but like I said,that doesnt necessarily make a player "better".Be honest. At some point,even the biggest Kurri fan has to conceed that Wayne made him so much better.
@tetsuokun Stastny was more of a guy you start your team with.He was more of a catalyst than Kurri.Jacques Richard had 103 pts and 52 goals playing with Stastny when Stastny was a rookie.He only had 244 pts in 478 games besides that 1 season.Coincedence? If Stastny had a began his career at 19 and had a full career, he would more than likely be in the top 5 scorers of all time.
@tetsuokun It can't be argued. He was born in Slovakia. His actual name is Slovakian and a pain in the ass to spell, so I'm not looking it up. Yes, Kurri did have more goals.
Kurri was the best player Finland ever made i grew up watching him play and all i can say is he was awesome even wayne himself said he was his best friend and as a player he was second to nobody thank you Kurri
I would take Teemu Selanne over Kurri. Teemu has scored as much as Kurri without Gretzky. And Gretzky said that the best player he ever played with was Messier.
Even Wayne said "Jari should have wom for at leat ten seasons." Don't mark me on that, just a thing to say. He was pretty damn good either way. He was a master, a f*** master anyway...
No. Not even close. Peter Stastny was better for sure. He was the 2nd highest scorer throughout the 80s behind Gretzky. Sergei Fedorov, Peter Forsberg, Mats Sundin, Nick Lidstrom, Teemu Selanne, Alex Ovechkin, and Pavel Bure are all better too. Not to mention if you wanna go old scholl and count Valeri Kharlamov.
Has to be the most under-rated hockey player of all time....It takes two to tango, and even without Gretzky...an absolutely incredible player.. And in a class with Mika Hakkanen and Kimi Raiokkanen as Finnish athletes....
Underrated ? He's put ahead of guys like Michel Goulet, Dino Ciccarelli, Mike Gartner, etc, when those guys are every bit as good. Atleast. Yet because they didnt have the fortune of playing with Gretzky on that dynasty, theyre overlooked. And Kurri gets so much recognition. Very good player, but not as great as some of you want to believe. Dave Lumley went on a 12 game goal streak poppin 15 in that span with Gretzky. Even Sather said a firehydrant could pop 40 playing with Gretzky.
Wow...this is the first time I ever saw this...and heard him speak. LOL I was basically addicted to hockey in the 80s and 90s...and Jari was my very favorite player. Thanks for posting this. :)
Greatest Finnish and European player ever.Remember Nagano Olympics. He showed that he still has what it takes.Playing in Gretzkys shadow=he is part of Gretzkys success.
Teemu Selänne is the only one that is currently a treath to Kurri's goal record. And he will 75% surely go over it. Olli Jokinen is an excellent player, Kiprusoff, Lehtinen, Ruutu ext
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finland have now only Saku Koivu, Jere Lehtinen and Teemu Selänne and i forget Mikko Koivu. AND GOALIES ! Miikka kiprusoff. karri rämö,tuukka rask, antero niittymäki, kari lehtonen etc.
composed by Trevor Rabin for the "Remember the Titans" score. This track is entitled "Titans Spirit" and is easily one of the best "victory" pieces written.
One of the great players of his time and perhaps all time. For him to be compared with other hockey legends is an added bonus. Who cares whether he was number 1 or number 30. All those 30 guys were great.
mr majestic, kind of sums up such a great player. such a talented, unasuming player that played as well defence as offence. nobody in the league today comes close.
Kiitos Jarille, itse alotin lätkän kun Jari pelasi Edmontonissa. Halusin heti numero #17 ja sain sen! Pisteitä ei tullut yhtä paljon kuin Jarilla, mutta aina kun olin jäällä oli Jari ja Gretzky mielessä:) Legendaarinen oli koko Edmonton Oilers ja niistä ajoista on mahtavaakin mahtavemmat muistot..
hieno mies
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LONG LIVE THE JARI KURRI...
No... THANK YOU!
lintu25 4 months ago
I love this vid so much! Here's something for the "Kurri Deniers" to chew on: In every season in which the Oilers won the first 4 Stanley Cups ('84, '85, '87 & '88), Kurri was #1 in the NHL in playoff goals scored. Then, in 1990, WITHOUT GRETZKY, he set up the overtime winner in game #1 of the Finals, then scored 3 goals and 2 assists in game #2. At the moment he left Edmonton in spring 1990, HE WAS #1 ALL-TIME in NHL playoff goals.
And that's not "woulda", "coulda", "shoulda"... that's DID.
regantyn 5 months ago 2
what's the music?
Petskuta 11 months ago
You can't say what a player would or wouldn't have done in different circumstances; that is a meaningless discussion because any conclusions are baseless. What we can talk about is what DID happen, and Jari wasn't only playing with Gretzky, he was playing with other lines too, and produced regularly.
Wodey25 11 months ago
@Wodey25 You are 100% CORRECT! The "if this" and "if that"
business is baloney. Kurri WAS a great player! His 600+ goals
DID happen! His name is on the Cup five (or maybe six) times.
He's in the Hall-of-Fame. This is UNDENIABLE!
avaxtakaka 11 months ago
lol it's been like more than a year since I read these comments for the first time and tjcurrie is still here everyday trolling(I hope) how everyone were better than kurri
I give credit for your endurance, you must really hate the guy. Is this the only vid you are trolling or are you trashing every euro guy? Even don cherry has more objective views on the subject than you do. And that's bad.
tetsuokun 1 year ago
Sallki1 is a beatch
Finland1965 1 year ago
@Finland1965
Mr 45 years old, maybe it would be time to grow up...
Salkki1 1 year ago
It's also worth mentioning Kurri still played two tremendous seasons with the oilers after Gretzky was gone, putting similar numbers that he did with wayne. Or is playing with messier also cheating lol? In fact he outscored the whole team in 88-89, including Messier who is arguably the better player let's admit it. So I'd say it's stupid to try to take something off from kurri by saying he played with the best. The fact is he was an important factor in making oilers the best team of the 80's.
tetsuokun 1 year ago
@tetsuokun Im not saying he wasnt important, and Im not saying he still wasnt a very good player. But "very good" isnt "great". He had the one 100 pt season after Gretzky left. Off the top of my head is was 102 points ? Very good for sure. But given the era, and given that he was reaching heights of 120-130 points and 60-70 goals with Wayne, rather than the 44 goals he peaked at after Wayne, that 102 points isnt all that special.He would have peaked at that. Not 130.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tetsuokun Thhose 120-130 point seasons would have been 80-100 point seasons and his 50-70 goal seasons would have been 30- 45 or so instead. You could probably take 150 or so points off his totals. Some were saying "without Kurri there would be nno Gretzky". Thats pretty bogus. Wayne would have reached his heights with numerous wingers at that time. Im just saying Kurri gets too much credit. Yes he was good all round. But without Wayne he's probably 40th or so on the all-time points list.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tjcurrie Without Kurri there would be no Gretzky. And you know this to be true, so why lie to yourself? Just shows you know nothing.
norsende 1 year ago
@norsende You cant be serious. Gretzky tied Dionne for the lead league his 1st NHL season and did it without Kurri. Before joined with kurri, he won 2 Harts and an Art Ross, he had 3 more Art Ross Trophies and a Hart in L.A., he was the catalyst by far and there were numerous other wingers you could have paired with him. How many other centers could have replaced him for Kurri ? When your linemate is outscoring you by 70-80 points what the hell does that say ? Obviously you dont know much.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tjcurrie
Agreed. Kurri is an icon for Finnish hockey but Gretzky played at the same level no matter who was beside him.
Salkki1 1 year ago
@Salkki1 Absolutely correct. Kurri was a very good player and Im not saying he would have went from 120-130 points to 40 points. But we likely would have seen his career go 85, 95, 90, 90, 100, 90, 85, 85,95,100, 95, etc. Not 90,100,120, 130, 130, 120,110, etc. Paul Coffey was more of a factor than Kurri. The way he brought the puck out of the zone and could jump into the play, he was more irreplaceable. Kurri was a real good winger who had great numbers.Lots of real good wingers back then.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@Salkki1 In the heyday of the Oilers, Glen Sather was
asked to describe the perfect left-winger. "He'd be fast
and smart. He'd be big. He'd have a great shot, be able
to pass, willing to play defence, and score the big goals
in the big games. In other words, he'd do what Kurri does
on the right side". Well said, Coach!
avaxtakaka 11 months ago 79
@tetsuokun Can you imagine if Rob Brown would have played another 6 or 7 seasons with Mario Lemieux ? The guy would have had another 300 or so points to his totals and all of a sudden he would be talked about as such a wicked player. When in fact he was just decent. Of course Kurri was better than him but thats a good example.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tjcurrie
Yeah Rob Brown is a very interesting case. Who knows what numbers he'd have had he played more with mario. But I tried to make a point that unlike Rob Brown, Kurri still produced when he played without his "master". I know you weren't implying Rob Brown was better than Kurri - but it's still a bad comparison for the reason stated. Kurri's points in Edmonton 88-90 were practically just as good as they were past couple seasons with Gretzky.
tetsuokun 1 year ago
@tetsuokun Ya in no way am I comparing the two players. Im just using it as an example of a player who had more points because of his centerman. You can also look at Bernie Nicholls.The year before Wayne got to L.A. he had like 34 goals and 78 points.When Wayne got there he had 70 goals and 150 points. A real good player.But the numbers are an abberation while with Wayne. Kurri put up a couple good seasons without him,but that would have been his ceiling. Not the 120-130 pts and 50-70 goals.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tetsuokun Even Dave Lumley went on abit of a tear playing with Gretzky. I think it was 81 or 82 he went on a 12 game scoring streak popping 15 goals. Again, Kurri is better than the player Im using as an example, but it shows what Gretzky did for people. Its hard to say a number but without a doubt Gretzky did the same for Kurri.A small window of astroaumical numbers is what separated Kurri from the rest of the pack. Without Wayne, those numbers dont happen and he's brought down to earth.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
Kurri, tapa Hurri!!!
tuubi77 1 year ago
Edmonton got # 3 # 7 # 9 # 11 # 17 # 31 and # 99 in Edmonton. I hope they put # 4 up in the rafters someday. Taylor Hall can't wear #4.
marshallsimon 1 year ago
@marshallsimon Why dont they retire #16 for The Human Punchingbag Kelly Buchberger while theyre at it. Lowe was a serviceable Dman but I think thats going a little far. You gotta draw the line or youre gonna be retiring numbers left and right.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
Kurri won stanley cup once without Gretzky but Gretzky never won without Kurri. That tells something.
TheJuhox 1 year ago
@TheJuhox That tells nothing. Thats a ridiculous statement. Lowe won 2 more Cups aswell. So is he better than Gretzky ? Get real. Gretzky went to a bad team and made them good. Kurri doesnt do that. Kurri hd to be part of something great to win. He wasnt great himself. If you think him winning another Cup and Gretzky not winning a Cup means anything then you're crazy. Do you know where Kurri would be without Gretzky ? Probably about 20 more spots down the all-time scoring list.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tjcurrie That is actually bs. Without Kurri there wasn't Gretzky, this is old news, but now you know.
kanervatie 1 year ago
@kanervatie Well seems to me Gretzky had already made a name for himself before he and Kurri were paired up. And did pretty good for himself after he left edmonton aswell. Kurri, well the same cant be said for him. Without a doubt Kurri "helped" in the sense that he and Gretzky had chemistry. Chemistry "helps" anyone. But as far as Kurri being that good where he made Gretzky a better player, please. When youre being outscored by your linemate by 80 points, what does that tell you?
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tjcurrie
I think you are overreacting. I don't think anyone here is (except you) comparing Kurri's talent to Gretzky. You can't really compare anyone to Gretz. I dare say there was no winger in the NHL at that time who would've not been outscored by gretz in his line by a mile. Someone would have propably scored more than Kurri, but the line would not have been the same. Kurri was very important part of that line, and a succesful playoff team needs forwards like kurri who can play 2-way game.
tetsuokun 1 year ago
Happy 50th birthday :)
MMemorial 1 year ago
Jagr has more goals than Selanne or Kurri. But he's stayed healthier for a lot longer than Selanne... And Kurri is a 2-way forward.
legendapoju22 1 year ago
Back in the heyday of the Oilers, Assistant
Coach Barry Fraser said, "We've got some
great players here. All-stars, eh? Future
Hall-of-Famers, right? But Kurri is BY FAR
our most complete player". Yes, Mark
Messier was a better player than Kurri,
and, of course, Gretzky. But Jari Kurri is at
least in the Top 25 of those who have ever
played. True, Gretzky helped Kurri a lot.
But Kurri also helped Gretzky a lot!
avaxtakaka 1 year ago 109
@avaxtakaka perhaps u forget there would be no Gretzky without Kurri or visa versa.
But they were awsome.
lintu25 5 months ago
@lintu25 I agree completely! And I'm sure that both
Wayne and Jarri would also agree!
avaxtakaka 5 months ago
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Rightilla ei pelaa kuin homot ja Kurri
ThrillaQ 2 years ago
Selänne pelaa rightilla myös.. :/
Sliteh 2 years ago 2
Jari Kurri.... Wayne Gretzky... Jerome Iginla.... Miikka Kiprusoff... Teemu Selänne... Mario Lemieux... Patrick Roy.... Jere Lehtinen = one of the best ever in my oppinion
Squall17x 2 years ago 2
One of the best pure goal scorers to lace 'em up. This guy was a gem!!
raghornhs 2 years ago
TEEMU TEEMU!
Nyrkkimanne2 2 years ago 4
Kurri is the best Fin to ever play in my opinion
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jari kurri is fuckin down!
peterathwal99 2 years ago
jari kurri is best
iphonehacks0r 2 years ago
and these kids has ruined conversation.go for some other site to whine.
smootiee 2 years ago
Kurri had speed and he was blessed with the most talented Squad in the 1980's Him and Gretzky were the Diamanic duo. Anderson and Messeir too.
Wehategod 2 years ago 3
one of the most underrated players in NHL history. 600 goals, 71 and 68 goal seasons and he was very good defensively.
davidbfitz 2 years ago 4
Jari Kurri is in my opinion the greatest hockey player of all time, great defensivly, scored lots of points and won FIVE stanley cups!
motleyollinirvana 2 years ago 4
you are absolutely right... NOT!!!
Come on!!! he has never been MVP :S
DocNintendo 2 years ago
winning MVP is hard when you are playing alongside gretz
tetsuokun 2 years ago 3
@tetsuokun
He wouldnt have won it anyways. He was probably the 5th best player on edmonton. Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Anderson, then Kurri. He's lucky he was playing alongside Gretzky or he wouldnt have had no 70 goals and 130 points.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
Such ignorance. I dont know why I bother because you are either trolling or just ignorant. But here's few things you should know: 1) Kurri was oilers' best scorer even after Gretz left. 2) Saying Glenn Anderson is better than kurri is just silly 3) comparing to defenseman is also silly 4) Messier... well I think that's fair, but Kurri did score more points than he did.
tetsuokun 1 year ago
@tetsuokun
I compared him to Coffey based on importance to the team. So ya, I can compare. Whos a better player for Detroit ? Cleary or Lidstrom ? There ya go. Point proven. Yes Anderson was better than Kurri. He was money. Balls out. Without playing with Gretzky. Lets put Kurri on the 2nd line and Messier back up with Gretzky, who do you think outscores who ? Messier was far more valuable.There were other wingers in the league who could have easily replaced Kurri.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
ye but was mario lemiux, gordie howe, wayne gretzky or maurice richard ever good defensly, scoring that many points and goals and at the same time being great defensivly is fukking great jackass!
motleyollinirvana 2 years ago
look at the +/- stats
DocNintendo 2 years ago
do you even know who bobby orr is'?
DocNintendo 2 years ago
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thats not the fucking point.
Qipt 2 years ago
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fuck fuck fuck yea yea
DocNintendo 2 years ago
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i'mm not saying hes not great .. but he's not the greatest .. jackass :D
DocNintendo 2 years ago
yes thats true but he is in top 5 and even im from finland and he is 1 of my favourite playes i can say that.Or maybe he is even in top 3
RingOfBob 2 years ago
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go suck buffolas dick jackass:D
DocNintendo 2 years ago
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fuck you motherfucker!
motleyollinirvana 2 years ago
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hahahahahaa Pwnd
DocNintendo 2 years ago
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what the fuck do you mean pwnd asshole!
motleyollinirvana 2 years ago
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haaha :D
DocNintendo 2 years ago
ok your just strange
motleyollinirvana 2 years ago
Jari Kurri is one of the legend's. Maybe the best European ice hockey player at all-time. 7season have made over 40 or more goals.
tepezuu 2 years ago
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he probably wouldnt have done anything without gretzky
damikester2 2 years ago
Well, he did. After Gretzky left he was the best player for oilers. Other great names played with gretz later in his career, no one ever came close to kurri.
tetsuokun 2 years ago 8
gretzky probably wouldnt have done anything without kurri
kankainen 2 years ago 40
@kankainen
Ha ha. Ya right. He was doin it before Kurri and he did it after Kurri. Kurri on the other hand, check his stats without Gretzky. A shadow of what they were with.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@kankainen i think its the other way around
a2thegoodwin 1 year ago
@a2thegoodwin Kurri has one stanley cup more than Wayne
kankainen 1 year ago
@kankainen lulz, riiight.
FevrGuy 1 year ago
@FevrGuy You know it's true.
norsende 1 year ago
@norsende Gretzky had plenty other talent on Edmonton, plus he proved he can play on his own in in St.Louis and New York.
FevrGuy 1 year ago
@kankainen kuri probably wouldnt have done anything without gretzky
marc18191 1 year ago
@kankainen HAHAHAHAHA
I don't know what you're smoking but it's pretty powerful shit.
TheMentallydull 1 year ago
@kankainen I won't go as far as to say that, but Kurri
was a HUGE help for Gretzky (and Wayne will be the
first to admit it).
karkkipussi1000 11 months ago
One of the best european players ever in NHL, that's a fact!! if not the best..
cowboy0212 2 years ago 5
Jari Kurri is Finland icehockey legend!
munakas007 2 years ago 5
Jari Kurri is so awesome. Jari Kurri and Esa Tikkanen are my favorite all time players.
nickknox75 2 years ago 6
Only Jagr has more points from european players... but Kurri is way better two-way player. Propably the best ever european player in NHL.
tetsuokun 2 years ago 31
well jagr was and if he returns still is amazing but its a crime jari never won the selke
MrBarelylethal 2 years ago 2
@tetsuokun
Jagr doesnt have to be a 2 way player to be better. Jagr was a franchise player. Kurri wasnt. Jere Lehtinen, who I love, is a great 2 way player. But that doesnt make him better than Ovechkin. As far as being the best Euro ever, no. Peter Stastny was better, Nick Lidstrom, Teemu Selanne, Sergei Fedorov, Pavel Bure, Peter Forsberg,Mats Sundin, Alex Ovechkin already, Jaromir Jagr. And if you wanna count goalies, which I dont like to compare, Dominek Hasek.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
Obviously you rate players only by how much they have scored points, and you seem to have something serious against Kurri. No he wasn't the best player ever, not even top 10. Yes he was lucky to play with wayne. But my point is that because Kurri scored so many points, people often forgot he was a defensive player. Someone like Jagr would have propably scored more with gretz than kurri did (who knows?) but the line wouldn't work the same without Kurri defensive efforts. One of the best lines evr
tetsuokun 1 year ago
@tetsuokun
Ignorance ? Sure buddy. Just because I dont agree with you ? Well you dont agree with me so I guess youre ignorant too right ? Thats fine Kurri was a 2way player. Like I said, so is Jere Lehtinen. It doesnt automatically make you better than more of a one way player. If you seriously think Kurri was better than Peter Stastny you sir are sadly mistaken.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tjcurrie
Hell, even 'The Hockey News' famous top 100 players list ranks Kurri above Statsny. And also there is no Glenn Anderson on that list, as he doesn't belong there obviously, that would be just dumb. Of course it's just a list, but it's been put up by experts who propably follow hockey way more than you do (or I). True, it also ranks Jagr better than Kurri. I'm not qualified to make judgement which is better, just saying Kurri doesnt get enough credit. As your comments show for example.
tetsuokun 1 year ago
@tetsuokun If you mean that list they made in '98, Yzerman isnt in the top 50. So that list is void.And take into account they look at Cups.Kurri has 5.Stastny has 0.That doesnt make Kurri better.Anderson scored more on his own merit rather than having Wayne help him.But theyre close so its debatable.Kurri was better 2way than Jagr but like I said,that doesnt necessarily make a player "better".Be honest. At some point,even the biggest Kurri fan has to conceed that Wayne made him so much better.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tetsuokun Stastny was more of a guy you start your team with.He was more of a catalyst than Kurri.Jacques Richard had 103 pts and 52 goals playing with Stastny when Stastny was a rookie.He only had 244 pts in 478 games besides that 1 season.Coincedence? If Stastny had a began his career at 19 and had a full career, he would more than likely be in the top 5 scorers of all time.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tjcurrie
Point taken; not gonna bother feeding the troll anymore.
tetsuokun 1 year ago
@tetsuokun
Troll. Ha ha. Geez. Cant have a simple discussion without being labeled a troll I guess. No prob. Aslong as my point was taken then. Cheers.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
@tetsuokun I have the issue of The Hockey News that ranks
Jagr ahead of Kurri. But in the section about Kurri, it calls him
"the best European player ever". I agree! Jagr was a very tal-
ented player, but Kurri was the complete package.
avaxtakaka 11 months ago
@tetsuokun Wrong. Stan Mikita has more points than Kurri who is 3rd.
HeavyD2544 1 year ago
@HeavyD2544
True enough. Though it can be argued whether Mikita is european or canadian. Kurri had however more goals atleast.
tetsuokun 1 year ago
@tetsuokun It can't be argued. He was born in Slovakia. His actual name is Slovakian and a pain in the ass to spell, so I'm not looking it up. Yes, Kurri did have more goals.
HeavyD2544 1 year ago
@HeavyD2544
He played for canada, despite his origins. That makes him canadian.
tetsuokun 1 year ago
@tetsuokun It makes him part Canadian.
HeavyD2544 1 year ago
@tetsuokun As of this writing, yes, I would agree that
Kurri is the best European player ever. Eventually, I'd
think that Alex Ovechkin will wear that crown, but for
now, that honour goes to Kurri. Jagr was a one-way
player only.
avaxtakaka 11 months ago
Kurri was the best player Finland ever made i grew up watching him play and all i can say is he was awesome even wayne himself said he was his best friend and as a player he was second to nobody thank you Kurri
drizztdrowelf 2 years ago 3
@drizztdrowelf
I would take Teemu Selanne over Kurri. Teemu has scored as much as Kurri without Gretzky. And Gretzky said that the best player he ever played with was Messier.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
what a legend
tetsuokun 2 years ago 3
brings a fucking tear to my eye every time i see this. what an athlete, what a gentleman.
jh0nnnn 2 years ago 9
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but rajala is good teenplayer but in nhl he get butseckssssssssszzzzz
Miqimus 2 years ago
Kurri is Finland the best hockey player ever
98rikke 2 years ago 3
Respect to one of the legend of NHL.
Maero90 2 years ago 9
Simply the best!
salekki 3 years ago 2
A great man! A great player! The Oilers love him! Canada loves him! Finland loves him! A great NHL legend.
oilersridersbluejays 3 years ago 7
long live jari kurri! the greatest player ever!
Passeparto 3 years ago 4
ONE lady byng trophy.
For all those seasons.
Even Wayne said "Jari should have wom for at leat ten seasons." Don't mark me on that, just a thing to say. He was pretty damn good either way. He was a master, a f*** master anyway...
Losrandiro 3 years ago
Jari Jari Jari Jari
ACParker13 3 years ago
A true legend, one of the best players ever played the game, the best european with Jagr, hats off 4 this guy
izmodezmo 3 years ago
Jari Pekka Kurri, #1 Finnish hockey player of all time.
Mii85 3 years ago 5
#1 European hockey player of all time.
atleast.
setakakki 2 years ago 9
@setakakki
No. Not even close. Peter Stastny was better for sure. He was the 2nd highest scorer throughout the 80s behind Gretzky. Sergei Fedorov, Peter Forsberg, Mats Sundin, Nick Lidstrom, Teemu Selanne, Alex Ovechkin, and Pavel Bure are all better too. Not to mention if you wanna go old scholl and count Valeri Kharlamov.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
Has to be the most under-rated hockey player of all time....It takes two to tango, and even without Gretzky...an absolutely incredible player.. And in a class with Mika Hakkanen and Kimi Raiokkanen as Finnish athletes....
rcdd3261 3 years ago
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Kimi Räikkönen is a joke in Finland. =)
Häkkinen was the best f1-driver ever. 8)))
Triarity 3 years ago
Joke in finland? wtf ur comment is a big joke. Häkkinen was good but so is Räikkönen and will be even better.
Soliddi 2 years ago 2
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yes, in drinking!
sanandreas77 2 years ago
@rcdd3261
Underrated ? He's put ahead of guys like Michel Goulet, Dino Ciccarelli, Mike Gartner, etc, when those guys are every bit as good. Atleast. Yet because they didnt have the fortune of playing with Gretzky on that dynasty, theyre overlooked. And Kurri gets so much recognition. Very good player, but not as great as some of you want to believe. Dave Lumley went on a 12 game goal streak poppin 15 in that span with Gretzky. Even Sather said a firehydrant could pop 40 playing with Gretzky.
tjcurrie 1 year ago
The Greatest European Ever! I almost cried when I saw this first time
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buhhahahah he suck very bad same country as i am i have always hated hes playing style suck at everything expect makes goals nuthing else
darwehewuli 3 years ago
Wow...this is the first time I ever saw this...and heard him speak. LOL I was basically addicted to hockey in the 80s and 90s...and Jari was my very favorite player. Thanks for posting this. :)
musiclover71 3 years ago 6
Greatest Finnish and European player ever.Remember Nagano Olympics. He showed that he still has what it takes.Playing in Gretzkys shadow=he is part of Gretzkys success.
lauttamus 3 years ago 5
forsberg sucks big time
nastappa 3 years ago 9
Great tribute for an overshadowded and underated hockey player, Best european player of all time in my opinion.
hockeyguy38 3 years ago 8
I was at this game, feels like a long time ago. It was awesome how he came out in his gear, and getting that one last pass from Gretz.
OtherLittleMikey 3 years ago 5
the greatest european player ever! thats for shore.
pake321 3 years ago 2
most underrated player
kingstarman9 3 years ago 3
Made In Finland!
Puukker 3 years ago 2
what a person, my idol best european NHL player and dynamic duo with gretzky good mates. Finlan has now no superstar players
samitheiceman 3 years ago
teemu selänne.
pake321 3 years ago 5
Teemu Selänne is the only one that is currently a treath to Kurri's goal record. And he will 75% surely go over it. Olli Jokinen is an excellent player, Kiprusoff, Lehtinen, Ruutu ext
setakakki 2 years ago
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finland have now only Saku Koivu, Jere Lehtinen and Teemu Selänne and i forget Mikko Koivu. AND GOALIES ! Miikka kiprusoff. karri rämö,tuukka rask, antero niittymäki, kari lehtonen etc.
Miqimus 2 years ago
No, you forgot lot of great Finnish NHL players. :)
Progainer 2 years ago 8
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Miqimus 2 years ago
Argh, Ville Leino can be 40goal scorer, Valtteri Filppula etc.
And young guys like
Pulkkinen
Granlund
and
Donskoi
Jaueer 2 years ago
granlund will be as good as koivu!
motleyollinirvana 2 years ago 2
Better, no sence.
He is dominating SM-liiga already.
Jaueer 2 years ago
Well hes too young to know yet, BTW do you speak finnish?
motleyollinirvana 2 years ago
Joo puhun, Granlund dominoi sm-liigaa jo nyt, mitä ei olla tehty sitten olli jokisen.
Jaueer 2 years ago
niin on, toivottavasti tulee monta mahtavaa suomalaista pelaajaa vielä voittaa mm-kisat ja kaikki!
motleyollinirvana 2 years ago
anybody know what this song is called?
vicegame 3 years ago
composed by Trevor Rabin for the "Remember the Titans" score. This track is entitled "Titans Spirit" and is easily one of the best "victory" pieces written.
DCMclarenFan 3 years ago
One of the great players of his time and perhaps all time. For him to be compared with other hockey legends is an added bonus. Who cares whether he was number 1 or number 30. All those 30 guys were great.
skyde81 3 years ago 11
Kurri är KUNG
pictornos 3 years ago 8
Jari is great guy :)
DeFo2 3 years ago 6
great player and one of my idols as a player
josatinho 4 years ago 3
Only in finland
RinoTheRhino 4 years ago 5
A legend the best player on NHL nobody even comes as close to him on today.
iversoni 4 years ago 6
mr majestic, kind of sums up such a great player. such a talented, unasuming player that played as well defence as offence. nobody in the league today comes close.
kurrifan 4 years ago 6
best player of all time
vaughanlax19 4 years ago 10
man He's so Cool
scores 50-70 goals, 110-130 points, and plays such great Defense too
best 2-way forward I Seen and so Underrated
qwertythesir 4 years ago 9
Kurri, you were always my favorite player... and I'll fondly remember your years here in Edmonton and what you have given to us. Thank you!
iamjennya 4 years ago 5
Ja Kurri On Suomalainen Saatana!
09wade09 4 years ago
Kurri from Jokerit Hc Finland <3
Wilpero444 4 years ago
Thank you Mr. Kurri. You were the best wing manGretzky ever had...the best duo in NHL history. Edmonton will always love you.
CanadianKelley 4 years ago 10
yeah i agree
kingstarman9 3 years ago
My playing number is 17 too.
LordFinland 4 years ago
Gretzky and Kurri could beat Jagr anytime and anywhere(with ice).
FevrFever 4 years ago 9
and off the ice ;)
zyrbyl 4 years ago 4
But one thing what is good for Jagr is Kurris and Gretzkys age.
LordFinland 4 years ago
Hell yeah! Kurri was awsome player. Best hockey player from europe <3
GretzkyJr 4 years ago 5
kurri on paras
FINNIF 4 years ago 2
Kiitos Jarille, itse alotin lätkän kun Jari pelasi Edmontonissa. Halusin heti numero #17 ja sain sen! Pisteitä ei tullut yhtä paljon kuin Jarilla, mutta aina kun olin jäällä oli Jari ja Gretzky mielessä:) Legendaarinen oli koko Edmonton Oilers ja niistä ajoista on mahtavaakin mahtavemmat muistot..
amerikanpastilleja 4 years ago 2
What a great player, severely underated.
hockeyguy38 4 years ago 7
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Kurri Selanne Ruutu ;) <33 And Swedish ice hockey sukcs! x D
racheliina 4 years ago
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yes. that's why you lost the olympic gold, HAHAHA
phille22 4 years ago
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American players can't play. Maybe Canadian players but no Americans.
LordFinland 4 years ago