It's not emotional blackmail. It's textbook narcissistic personality disorder. I suggest getting some counseling for yourself if you cant reconcile with others having opposing views, particularly when you're advising others. I also notice more than a healthy amount of hostility.
I think the fact that this guy has cut off ties to his family and doesn't associate with anyone that doesn't submit to his prescribed views is tragic. However, to suggest others do the same is deplorable, and yes, about the most self-absorbed thing I could think of.
hardly. the statement that statists are essentially narcissists is a factual statement based on the actual definition and the implications of being a statist. That is- someone who supports the state. That is a state by definition- (not my definition but THE definition) a state is a territorial monopoly on the initiation of force and ultimate decision making in ALL CONFLICTS INCLUDING THOSE INVOLVING ITSELF!
To BLINDLY without a shred of thorough and sound reasoning, support such an institution. And to even go so far as to RATIONALIZE every one of its atrocious actions when rational people even question them (ie. wars, taxes, kidnappings, rape, molestation, fraud, and flat out lies, etc), is a clear example of what is called the Stockholm Syndrome.
If you even question the veil of legitamicy of the state, the statists clingin to such a false notion of a state then threaten to use violence against you- whether its throwing you in jail or beating you up. And then they dare claim that such violence is 'justice' when they dont even know what the word means. That is pure narcissism- essentially every bureaucrat is a narcisist - hence why they are BUREAUCRATS.
Once you understand the very sound basic logic that government is not a positive entity and that it is nothing more than a parasite(EVERYTING that government claims to have, it first takes at the barrel of a gun), its obvious WHO would even want to associate with such an institution- narcissists and lunatics.
What kind of sane moral person would even think of stealing from someone else? And what kind of person, upon stealing it, would then claim to have some sort of legitimacy for the stealing and then dare claim that it is somehow 'justice'? Only the worst of the worst parasites could even think of such a thing. Not even a thief would pretend to have any veil of legitamicy to such actions
i apologize for the long post. But statism is the absolute worst religion of all of history. Neither christianity nor islam nor any of the other 1000s of religions throughout history has even come close to even a FRACTION of the number of murders, slaughters, thefts, rapes, frauds, and lies committed by the so called 'State'
@swu880 You are more than welcome to your opinion my friend. And if you were to disassociate yourself from people with differing opinions on the subject, again, that would be your right. However, if you were to encourage others to do the same, I would call that deplorable, irresponsible behavior and possibly a sign of a personality disorder.
i dont deal much with opinions. I only deal in terms of facts, logic and reason. I have 6 good friends who have taught me everything that i know: Who, what, Where, When, How, and Why. Maybe you should get acquainted with them sometime and actually apply it to your reasoning or rationalization for the illusion of the state. the state is the utmost greatest violator of rights.
don't believe me? ok thats fine cuz its not my statement- just show me 1 single institution that has been even half as destructive and atrocious as the state.
if you actually apply reason to the veil of legitimacy surrounding government, you realize that all bureaucrats are just fencing stolen goods around- parasites.
Moreover, what makes the matter all the more atrocious is not so much all the raping, theft and murders that government bureaucrats commit on an hourly basis, but the sheer flat out denial of reasoning and the statists claim to totally annihilate all forms of peaceful discourse.
Molyneux has another video that explains this.It all comes down to 2 simple questions. 1) Am I FREE to disagree with you? 2) Am I FREE to act on such beliefs?
Whether its about the wars in Iraq, 'nam, 'social security' or anything at all- can i freely disagree with you and act accordingly to those beliefs?
I respect whatever position you have regardless how logically foolish it may be. I dont threaten to put you in a cage, or beat you up for it. Can you extend the same BASIC courtesy of peaceful discourse and civilized behavior to me?
Can i NOT pay for wars, the DEA, FDA, FEMA and all the other crap?
If you say that i can 'freely disagree' but do not allow me to act freely on those beliefs and still force me to fund such atrocities, you are to say the least, anti-social and narcissist and self contradictory. Being able to disagree freely means that you dont get a gun shoved up your ass or the threat therof for doing so.
If you will not extend such basic courtesy, then ALL notion of civilized discourse is OVER and FORFEIT- i repeat. you FORFEIT discourse and peace!
If you dont even let me freely disagree and threaten to use violence against me forcing me to fund this and that atrocity- public schools or social security etc, then YOU are acting no different from a BARBARIAN! plain and simple.
So of course, after a while it makes absolute sense to distance yourself from such psycopaths if they don't reform their behavior and attitude.
@swu880 We're not even having the same conversation. Look, I don't give a shit what your little cult leader told you, but to manipulate others into making life altering decisions without any consideration to the long term effects on them is disgusting. You, and this guy, are not accredited, qualified or of sound mind enough to do so. Do whatever you want with your own life but look to yourself before giving advice.
like i said, all it comes down to is the question am i free to disagree or not.
Being able to freely disagree is not about scribbling on some placards all day and waving a flag. bein able to freely disagree is about being able to remove any and all of your support and to TRULY freely support that which you want to support and value.
lets apply it to say- sex. ok? what happens if ik say ask you if i can freely disagree, and act on those beliefs. you say i may but i still "have to have sex with so and so". now firstly, if i try to dissuade you but after some time, you still insist that i "have to have sex with so and so", then is it not obvious that i should try to disassociate myself and distance myself from you if i REALLY do not want that?
@swu880 if i really do not want rape, is it not sensible to distance oneself from those who insist on rape?
it is only basic common sense and reasoning. this is only the most basic essentials of civilized behavior. If you dont even offer that much, how the hell can you even call that being civilized??? and then you insist that we still must be associated with one another???
molyneux isnt saying that, upon hearing that you insist of still forcing support for such institutions and programs that you disassociate yourself from them immediately. However, after some time, a line ought to be drawn, are you still going to continue to support, even after trying to dissuade, those persisting that you must have sex or do X, Y or Z though you disagree with such actions?
all i am doing here is using something called LOGIC and REASONING. that is all. really what im getting at is the very basic FUNDAMENTAL components of what is tooo often presumed or assumed away- the component of civilized behavior- aka the non aggression PRINCIPLE (note it aint some theory or philosophy)
This is one of my favorite videos put out by Stef or anyone making an impassioned argument about the belief/dogma/philosophy of statists. I submit to your guns...
I just got a mental image of them throwing me in a cell, then saying "You know, I kind of liked that, let's do it again"; then dragging me back out of the cell and throwing me back in.
@LearningAsIGo80 This is serious ****. He may very well be sincere. I know I get in this state when arguing with people about morality. To accept the non-aggression axiom and then to not see the 'big deal' with taxation can be very frustrating. But like I said it is serious, and many human issues are amplified exponentially by this legitimization of force and violence. It has to stop.
Thank you for your blinding truth,your raw emotion. I wanted to run up and down my street screaming"What the hell is wrong with you people?! NO MORE CAGES ,NO MORE GUNS TO MY HEAD?!" If I had...i would be in jail right now or in a straight jacket...because society at large just doesn't get it and would have their guns(the blue costumes) on me without soiling their hands.
damn,ive never seen u pissed off before ... usually when someone becomes angry i dont follow theyre thoughts presumptevly i think they're inlogic but U ... URE GOOD XD
You're wrong about one thing, Stephan. We are not surrounded by people who like weapons, rather than words, we are surrounded by people who believe that if they commit their violence vicariously, through other people with weapons then they do not have to confront the reality of using them. They are cowards who want nothing more than to hide themselves in the depths of Hobbes's Leviathan and to pretend that they have meaning through collective identity.
Powerful! The emotion cuts through the trance that the propraganda from the system has put them in. I am frustrated though, It just seems like we in the U.S. keep losing ground. Like with the passage of the NDAA. Now SOFA/PIPA are coming up for vote in congress. I just feel like the system keeps closing in on us. What do we do? I blog and talk to people, but I think I freak people out. It is as if truth is a bad thing and lies are valued the most. What do we do arm ourselves? I do what can do..
I don't see how isolating yourself is helpful. It takes time to convince people to shift their way of thinking. If we isolated people, in the anger that Stef is feeling here, it would lead to something more akin to civil war than revolution. Stef's anger in this video wasn't well channeled, it was a little awkward. At least I felt awkward for him when watching it. Don't forget Stef, the goal here is winning hearts and minds, not making it us vs. them with our own friends and family.
I would like to convince people the value of freedom and this usually takes time. I don't want to throw people away so quickly. Some friends disagree with most but accept one idea. Then when you see them later in a week or two they agree with two ideas. You can see that they are slowly coming around. An ultimatum would not have achieved this.
Overall a good video, though I feel the point would have come across just perfectly without cursing (twice!) Peace of mind, peace of heart through the eternal piece of Spirit and Soul, our original constitution. Blessings!
Dear twelve year old assholes, please stop making brainwashed comments you learned from your school teacher on stefs videos as his reasoning is totally sound.
@stefbot (1/2) I'm on the page with you in general about your points here, but I've wondered (with many of these "appeal to the human side of your friends/family" proposals) if you've considered the possibility that the "emotional blackmail", even if justified and reasonable, might be simply ineffective if people can't be rationally convinced of the blackmail's "premise", i.e. that reality actually is exactly as the proposal describes. (continued in next - 2/2)
@mattsamudio@stefbot (2/2) What I run into alot is that people have a hard time getting past the suspicion that I (or anyone with these proposals) am a raving paranoid conspiracy-minded lunatic, and the accusations that are being laid at their feet are some kind of "trick" or brainwashing. In other words, they have a hard time shaking their *actual* brainwashing, and simply don't quite believe the premise that the "emotional blackmailing" is based on, and so it doesn't work.
@mattsamudio You are right that this approach is perhaps less likely to help people see the truh, but it seems like the only way to have a life free of violence. Wich, I guess, steph would argue is worth more than any set of friends you care to propose.
My wife and I have lost a number of acquaintances due to our objection to the wars. We made some logical arguments against the wars, very politely, on 9/11/11, when most people were in a nationalistic fervor, and many people became extremely offended. Mentioning an objection to the war on drugs has also caused quite a few rifts in our social circle. My wife summed it up pretty well though, she said, "I am glad I said what I said, it revealed to me who is my friend and who isn't."
This guy is such a drama queen as well as a control freak. The state is a tool, like any other tool it can be used for good or evil depending upon who is using it.
@ninjapig2011 In the U.S. evil, but my point is stat-ism is not inherently evil. I'm a democratic socialist and when I look at a prosperous country like Norway I don't see evil. The happiest and most prosperous states in the world are democratic socialist states. We don't need less regulation, but more and smarter regulation. Deregulation of Wall Street is what caused this economic mess we're in.
@ShadeToSun You're missing the underlying argument that Stef actually holds. He can't re-state it from the beginning at every turn, so its an unfortunate inconvenience that some have to take the time to inform themselves of it. What I refer to is the rather well-supported argument that *any* state, regardless of its particulars, is by nature a monopoly on force, which *is* inherently evil. What happens in your "friendly" socialist states when someone refuses to comply with their laws ?
@ShadeToSun I disagree - I rather think its naive to consider all proposals of anarchy trivially indefensible (which is what would be implied by your statement concerning naivety).
@mattsamudio It should be obvious that once states are removed society would descend into a tyrannous rule of corporations. As a matter of fact, the deregulation of Wall Street has practically given us that now.
@ShadeToSun Corporations can't exists without a state.
Might I suggest that you read and thoroughly consider actual well-structured arguments for anarchy, and actually have something logically compelling to counter with before dismissing. Stef's free books, in particular "How (not) to Achieve Freedom" and "Practical Anarchy", would be good places to start.
@mattsamudio Nothing the man has said has many any sense yet. He mostly regurgitates Rand who is a dime-store version of Nietzsche. It just more repackaged justifications for selfishness. Chomsky has pretty much made the argument against this brand of anarchy. I suggest you check out what he has to say on it. watch?v=YIpJQEcXP7A
@ShadeToSun Unfortunately, your cite doesn't apply very well - he only addresses corporatations as they exist in the 20th century (by his own admission), which are, sorry to correct you, complete fabrications born of state power. He says nothing that counters proposals by Stef, who also, by the way, very openly opposes Rand on several points. I'd advise addressing proposals directly instead of erecting generalization-based strawmen. Chomsky is also wrong on alot of things, IMHO.
I went and watched chomsky's video as you suggested. He's wrong on a fundamental level- the public sector is not accountable to anyone. He has it completely backwards. I've got a comment there at the top if you want to check it out.
@ShadeToSun Governance is often falsely linked to the use of force. Voluntary groups have organization. They "govern" how they operate as a group bu they don't use force. Oddly enough, the use of force tend to prevent effective organization. One way to think about this is traffic rules such as everyone drives one direction drive on the the same side of the road. People don't need to be forced to do that. People must be forced to do things they don't agree with or are harmful to them.
@ShadeToSun Yeah, that's true. I don't like the idea of being "led" but in a civil country like Norway I wouldn't complain about paying taxes, being that they go to bettering the people.
@ShadeToSun But the thing is, that if you would change the bad things that government brings with it, there would be nothing left to call government. For example: "Government" without the use of violence. That would be a charity based company. If you take the violence away from government the fewest people would choose their solutions because it would be allowed for other people to provide the services which people need.
@ShadeToSun Since I know now from all the posts i've red from you and the little visit in your channel that you are just a troll trying to disturb anyone with your dumb ass accusations, I wont talk with you anymore. Because I dont think you are just not intelligent enough to understand stefs stuff, I think you are just a very bad person.
@andrewh817 Yes, it's one thing to put forth a point of view, quite another to tell your followers to cut relations with anyone who doesn't agree with you. He's more than a guy who makes videos, he's a budding cult leader. I'm glad you and others don't agree with me, I would be quite concerned if everybody did agree with me. But I stand by my statement, but I agree there are very few benevolent examples of states, but some socialist states seem to truly stand for their citizens.
@ShadeToSun He didn't tell his followers to cut relations with anyone who doesn't agree with them. If you're going to make accusations at least be sure they hold up to a moment's cross-referencing. He said to the people who brought up emotional blackmail that it is ridiculous to chastise him for advocating that when their statist friends are advocating them being chained or killed for putting their disagreement into action against state policies. Get your facts straight.
@andrewh817 I'm not referring to this video exclusively. His beliefs and teachings are intentionally divisive. There are websites dedicated to the families broken up by this man's beliefs and instruction to young people to turn their backs on their families. You should do your own fact checking before questioning mine.
@ShadeToSun It doesn't matter if you're referring to this video exclusively. His ideas are divisive - they divide truth from falsehood, though he speaks of his opinions as well. I've been listening to FDR for over 2 1/2 years so telling me to fact check is ridiculous - he's never told anyone to turn their back on their families. He says to be honest and open with those they want in their lives, see their reaction, and in some cases breaking with those people is a healthy response.
@ShadeToSun I think you already know. It's withdrawing association from members of your family who have been abusive to you if when you confront them about said abuse they are condescending towards you and your feelings and refuse to empathize with how you felt then and feel now. But this whole topic is relevant to any of my criticisms of you and your lack of intellectual integrity anyhow, because he's never told anyone they must defoo.
@ShadeToSun As much as you like to use religious phrases like "his teachings" and "his followers," they don't change the fact that he advocates the use of reason and evidence above all other ideas, which is NOTHING like a cult leader. He doesn't tell people what their opinions should be, he doesn't tell people what to do, and he doesn't demand that everyone agree with him. If you have arguments against his ideas, put them forth instead of spouting vague, negatively connotated words
@RKAddict101 If you act out like a raving idiot, yes, that makes you a drama queen. I appreciate intellectual calm over insane ranting any day. Stevie-boy is style (using that word loosely) over substance. Many who use bravado to sell their ideas do so because they know they are standing on a weak base. I feel this is the case here. I am angry over how states lie to create reasons for war too, but this video is 'grandstanding' for effect and salesmanship.
euhm, I think I was the one who uttered the words emotional blackmail. and I think I won't ever do it again. although If I was the one provoking this response I'm kinda proud, though emberessment comes more to mind. finally put in my place I guess
again, you are completly right. at the moment not sure who my enemies, frienemies enefriends en whatnot are. but ill figure it out. momentairily happy to be alive and "free"
Beautiful. I love the tempered anger. Particularly poignant was ending at the beginning -- the problem is not emotional blackmail. Fools. They know not what they do.
im sorry but i really dont see anything changing until people are willing to do more than just talk about the subject and are willing to put something more substantial on the line than just words at this point im afraid its like trying to reason with a thug beating your for his pleasure more than to just get your money and no amount of reasoning will turn him back.
I thought he was going to extend his middle digit at the very end. : )
The best response to the idiots who still support the war on drugs is: People like you should be rounded up and put into re-education camps or prison.
i brandish my weapons in the face of a totalitarian "administration" and retreat to the safety of the wilderness in order to live a life free of arbitrary restrictions that directly interfere with my life, my liberty, and the pursuit of my happiness.
surviving in the wilderness can't be much harder than surviving in this society.
For as much as I agree with you (100% is an understatement lol), I would like to point out that with time your videos have been getting angrier. I totally understand your anger as the same things ruin my days. But please Stef, if not for your credibility, then for your health, please try to chill. Smoke a joint or something :D Your daughter will appreciate having you around as long as possible, and all this anger is doing nothing but raising your blood pressure which may result in illness. LOVE!
@elchafa Anger is a very healthy emotion. No emotion is unhealthy. Just replace the word anger with happy in your statement and you'll see how horrific that is.
@Gu3rr1lla Hmmm it is healthy to express emotions, but would you be more interested to be around a smiley or a screaming person? Who would you say has a better chance to live longer, the smiley or the angry person? I rest my point.
@elchafa I've been watching his videos and listening to his podcasts for 2 1/2 years and I don't see the increase in anger that you're talking about. And why would anger hurt the credibility of one's argument?
People who bring up their opponent's emotional state rather than address their opponent's arguments are not interested in the truth.
Cred: It shouldn't but it does because some people are morons. And those people are precisely the ones whose minds we need to help change in order for a better society to exist.
As a side note, why is everybody replying nonsense to my original comment? It's like you are offended that I made a comment to Stefan with a healthy opinion, and that is a sign that you are getting fanaticized. Stef is just a person, like you and me, not an idol to worship.
@elchafa If people can't look past the emotions of the person making the argument and actually listen to the argument then they're not the type of people willing to change their minds when presented with reason and evidence when it comes to philosophy. Telling me that "Stef is just a person, like you and me, not an idol to worship" is extremely condescending.
I don't really think statists think like that - I don't think they think at all. But never the less they think you should be thrown in jail if you, for example, don't wear your belt when driving in your car.. its a crazy world..
those who said your position was emotional blackmail were demonstrating their awareness that it is they who are blackmailed emotionally, which is a strong theme in this line of reasoning. They were also demonstrating classic transference. It is always easier to blame the messenger than to take responsibility for ones own cognitive dissonance. The state cannot exist as it does today without the acquiescence of all those who bury their heads in the sand.
I object to this advocacy of throwing away friends who refuse to see reason. My friends and family are extremely important to me. That doesn't mean I won't try to convince them to pursue freedom with me, rather that I'll never give up on them. Like Luke and Vader.
I feel the same way. Sadly, I have lost most of my friends. However, I have no regret. By advocating violence against me, they were never really my friends in the first place. Fantastic speech.
I agree 100%...that's why I've been promoting the ideology to cease paying taxes, because those taxes go to supporting said atrocities. That's also why I have not generated any amount of taxable income last year. This will be the first year I will be able to submit a tax return with a free and clear conscience. How much tax will they be able to acquire from me in order to continue perpetuating these atrocities?...$0.00. :)
I find it amazing and sad the way that people have been domesticated into this messed up sense of morality. Stef, you've smashed it again! The problem is that mankind has been dazzled by the sales pitch - I'm not saying you're making a sales pitch -you're telling the truth. The philosophical stuff is important, but what I find is that when you back it up with evidence of how it's been done - not ideologically but technically - light bulbs go off in peoples heads. Good work, Stef!
Stef, great video. But just in case anyone has to be somewhere and doesn't have the time here's a quick version I made up: "You won't be able to live the way you've always lived, and wake up in the world you hope to see".
Well dude, you give so called "Liberals" a bad name, your friends are your friends. Your intolerance is your downfall. I'm not Liberal or Conservative, I'm not a Ron Paul supporter. You are sorely wrong, in my faith we have to love people as a person no matter what the sin, political beliefs, race, traditions.
By the way, you just described most Liberal mentalities and the end days.
@SlaveryEvolves Its not delusion, its the way some people claim to be but never live up to it. Even a man who doesn't believe in God, can love and accept people. Though I have not ran into many, even Atheist can be conservative, republican and whatever is associated with those these days.
@SlaveryEvolves Every elder that I know, that is older than my parents says: No one has respect for each-other anymore. Men used to hold their foul language among woman, people used to hold their foul language in respect for others.
@IFE10M Not all people think its alright to use foul words, even if they are not christian. A "bitch" is a female dog but when you call a woman one, your calling her a used woman, a illegitimate mother (What do you think a "bastard"), prostitute, a whore. Does that sound respectful?
It also makes you look unintelligent and shows lack of self respect when you over curse words. Kind of like those who use the word "fuck" more than any word in the english language when they are mad, etc. Like those people who end a argument with "Fuck you", even to a man to a man. A literal mind person might throw a wise crack at them and tease them a bit, and another type would be like "Did you know what you just said to me?".
@TheOsaka1337 Pretty sure I didn't say anything that anyone would consider a foul word. If something I said insulted you, that's different. I'm sorry if that's the case, but everything I said is true, so the problem here lies in your delusion, honestly.
It's not emotional blackmail. It's textbook narcissistic personality disorder. I suggest getting some counseling for yourself if you cant reconcile with others having opposing views, particularly when you're advising others. I also notice more than a healthy amount of hostility.
deziistheone 3 days ago
@deziistheone
uh- narcissist? all statists are EXTREME narcissists- hence why they support the state- its called STOCKHOLM SYNDROME
swu880 2 days ago
@swu880 A rather absolutist statement there.
I think the fact that this guy has cut off ties to his family and doesn't associate with anyone that doesn't submit to his prescribed views is tragic. However, to suggest others do the same is deplorable, and yes, about the most self-absorbed thing I could think of.
deziistheone 1 day ago
@deziistheone
hardly. the statement that statists are essentially narcissists is a factual statement based on the actual definition and the implications of being a statist. That is- someone who supports the state. That is a state by definition- (not my definition but THE definition) a state is a territorial monopoly on the initiation of force and ultimate decision making in ALL CONFLICTS INCLUDING THOSE INVOLVING ITSELF!
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
To BLINDLY without a shred of thorough and sound reasoning, support such an institution. And to even go so far as to RATIONALIZE every one of its atrocious actions when rational people even question them (ie. wars, taxes, kidnappings, rape, molestation, fraud, and flat out lies, etc), is a clear example of what is called the Stockholm Syndrome.
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
If you even question the veil of legitamicy of the state, the statists clingin to such a false notion of a state then threaten to use violence against you- whether its throwing you in jail or beating you up. And then they dare claim that such violence is 'justice' when they dont even know what the word means. That is pure narcissism- essentially every bureaucrat is a narcisist - hence why they are BUREAUCRATS.
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
Once you understand the very sound basic logic that government is not a positive entity and that it is nothing more than a parasite(EVERYTING that government claims to have, it first takes at the barrel of a gun), its obvious WHO would even want to associate with such an institution- narcissists and lunatics.
See the video, "The state is not great"
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
What kind of sane moral person would even think of stealing from someone else? And what kind of person, upon stealing it, would then claim to have some sort of legitimacy for the stealing and then dare claim that it is somehow 'justice'? Only the worst of the worst parasites could even think of such a thing. Not even a thief would pretend to have any veil of legitamicy to such actions
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
i apologize for the long post. But statism is the absolute worst religion of all of history. Neither christianity nor islam nor any of the other 1000s of religions throughout history has even come close to even a FRACTION of the number of murders, slaughters, thefts, rapes, frauds, and lies committed by the so called 'State'
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880 You are more than welcome to your opinion my friend. And if you were to disassociate yourself from people with differing opinions on the subject, again, that would be your right. However, if you were to encourage others to do the same, I would call that deplorable, irresponsible behavior and possibly a sign of a personality disorder.
deziistheone 1 day ago
@deziistheone
i dont deal much with opinions. I only deal in terms of facts, logic and reason. I have 6 good friends who have taught me everything that i know: Who, what, Where, When, How, and Why. Maybe you should get acquainted with them sometime and actually apply it to your reasoning or rationalization for the illusion of the state. the state is the utmost greatest violator of rights.
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
don't believe me? ok thats fine cuz its not my statement- just show me 1 single institution that has been even half as destructive and atrocious as the state.
if you actually apply reason to the veil of legitimacy surrounding government, you realize that all bureaucrats are just fencing stolen goods around- parasites.
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
Moreover, what makes the matter all the more atrocious is not so much all the raping, theft and murders that government bureaucrats commit on an hourly basis, but the sheer flat out denial of reasoning and the statists claim to totally annihilate all forms of peaceful discourse.
Molyneux has another video that explains this.It all comes down to 2 simple questions. 1) Am I FREE to disagree with you? 2) Am I FREE to act on such beliefs?
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
Whether its about the wars in Iraq, 'nam, 'social security' or anything at all- can i freely disagree with you and act accordingly to those beliefs?
I respect whatever position you have regardless how logically foolish it may be. I dont threaten to put you in a cage, or beat you up for it. Can you extend the same BASIC courtesy of peaceful discourse and civilized behavior to me?
Can i NOT pay for wars, the DEA, FDA, FEMA and all the other crap?
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
If you say that i can 'freely disagree' but do not allow me to act freely on those beliefs and still force me to fund such atrocities, you are to say the least, anti-social and narcissist and self contradictory. Being able to disagree freely means that you dont get a gun shoved up your ass or the threat therof for doing so.
If you will not extend such basic courtesy, then ALL notion of civilized discourse is OVER and FORFEIT- i repeat. you FORFEIT discourse and peace!
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
If you dont even let me freely disagree and threaten to use violence against me forcing me to fund this and that atrocity- public schools or social security etc, then YOU are acting no different from a BARBARIAN! plain and simple.
So of course, after a while it makes absolute sense to distance yourself from such psycopaths if they don't reform their behavior and attitude.
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880 We're not even having the same conversation. Look, I don't give a shit what your little cult leader told you, but to manipulate others into making life altering decisions without any consideration to the long term effects on them is disgusting. You, and this guy, are not accredited, qualified or of sound mind enough to do so. Do whatever you want with your own life but look to yourself before giving advice.
deziistheone 1 day ago
@deziistheone
like i said, all it comes down to is the question am i free to disagree or not.
Being able to freely disagree is not about scribbling on some placards all day and waving a flag. bein able to freely disagree is about being able to remove any and all of your support and to TRULY freely support that which you want to support and value.
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
lets apply it to say- sex. ok? what happens if ik say ask you if i can freely disagree, and act on those beliefs. you say i may but i still "have to have sex with so and so". now firstly, if i try to dissuade you but after some time, you still insist that i "have to have sex with so and so", then is it not obvious that i should try to disassociate myself and distance myself from you if i REALLY do not want that?
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880 if i really do not want rape, is it not sensible to distance oneself from those who insist on rape?
it is only basic common sense and reasoning. this is only the most basic essentials of civilized behavior. If you dont even offer that much, how the hell can you even call that being civilized??? and then you insist that we still must be associated with one another???
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
that is quite disgusting
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
molyneux isnt saying that, upon hearing that you insist of still forcing support for such institutions and programs that you disassociate yourself from them immediately. However, after some time, a line ought to be drawn, are you still going to continue to support, even after trying to dissuade, those persisting that you must have sex or do X, Y or Z though you disagree with such actions?
swu880 1 day ago
@swu880
all i am doing here is using something called LOGIC and REASONING. that is all. really what im getting at is the very basic FUNDAMENTAL components of what is tooo often presumed or assumed away- the component of civilized behavior- aka the non aggression PRINCIPLE (note it aint some theory or philosophy)
swu880 1 day ago
they (meaning the ones with guns) may be able to control our bodies, but a well disciplined mind is a more dangerous weapon and cannot be controlled.
fothinator 1 week ago
this presentation is a master piece.
darrenrooke 2 weeks ago
This is one of my favorite videos put out by Stef or anyone making an impassioned argument about the belief/dogma/philosophy of statists. I submit to your guns...
TheLibertyMinute 3 weeks ago
Is this one of Stefans best videos ever?
111076tom 3 weeks ago
"...who must be double-thrown in jail!"
I just got a mental image of them throwing me in a cell, then saying "You know, I kind of liked that, let's do it again"; then dragging me back out of the cell and throwing me back in.
MabusZero 4 weeks ago
I've lost lots of "friends" & I'm hated by youtube watchers. I figure I'm doing something right. & btw. I love when Stef gets pissed. :)
rockstarofredondo 1 month ago 4
I agree with most of what this guy is saying but the theatrics get on my nerves.
LearningAsIGo80 1 month ago 3
@LearningAsIGo80 This is serious ****. He may very well be sincere. I know I get in this state when arguing with people about morality. To accept the non-aggression axiom and then to not see the 'big deal' with taxation can be very frustrating. But like I said it is serious, and many human issues are amplified exponentially by this legitimization of force and violence. It has to stop.
robertvfritsch 2 weeks ago
Is it possible to withdraw your funding for things you don't support?
JJStarcade 1 month ago
@JJStarcade Yes, quit paying taxes and wait for the little man in the little blue suit to come take you away to your cage.
TURBOMAGNUM 1 month ago
Man , you spoke right to me in this vid . Agree 100% with your opinion man .
ConvictedTerrorism 1 month ago 2
Stef, you look sick. How is your wife and kid? I really hope they are not against war on drugs ;)
luarwick125 1 month ago
We've basically been indoctrinated saying: "The Government is good. Criticize the government and you're anti-American and anti-Constitution."
I really think our founding fathers would shed a tear if they can see what this government has become.
DarkZerkerX 1 month ago in playlist More videos from stefbot 7
Stefan Molyneux.... What a fuckin' legend.
YourHeartIsTheKey 1 month ago 3
Awesome :)
Keep it up, spread the logic :)
spystyle 1 month ago 2
Thank you for your blinding truth,your raw emotion. I wanted to run up and down my street screaming"What the hell is wrong with you people?! NO MORE CAGES ,NO MORE GUNS TO MY HEAD?!" If I had...i would be in jail right now or in a straight jacket...because society at large just doesn't get it and would have their guns(the blue costumes) on me without soiling their hands.
How disturbingly sick society really is!
andjusticeforall2010 1 month ago in playlist More videos from stefbot 4
Brilliant, now I've got a decent video to sent people, instead of shouting this at them :)
Well said!
ketherable 1 month ago 4
Brilliant.........!
sparklord66 1 month ago
Let us stop internalizing this government hegemony (propaganda) by demanding people to "pay the fair share" of their f@#$ing taxes!
capitalistsamurai 1 month ago
damn,ive never seen u pissed off before ... usually when someone becomes angry i dont follow theyre thoughts presumptevly i think they're inlogic but U ... URE GOOD XD
onxiaftw 1 month ago
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NickBravoReturns 1 month ago
Your passion about prison is the same as my own. Just thinking about prison sickens me, to the point where I can't even truly think of it.
Aurini 1 month ago
I dont like you
mrkiller08tc 1 month ago
Very convincing!
bestiaccia 1 month ago
Another GREAT video Stefan!
111076tom 1 month ago 2
You're wrong about one thing, Stephan. We are not surrounded by people who like weapons, rather than words, we are surrounded by people who believe that if they commit their violence vicariously, through other people with weapons then they do not have to confront the reality of using them. They are cowards who want nothing more than to hide themselves in the depths of Hobbes's Leviathan and to pretend that they have meaning through collective identity.
deepfriedsammich 1 month ago 5
Drugs are unsafe and make you a drain on society.
So here's some prison rape and a free stay care of the taxpayer.
Drugs are a choice and not a right.
So let a jihad or a crusade slip through because religion is a right no matter how many it kills.
But drugs have to be bad. Too much money would be lost from alcohol, wood pulp, pharmaceuticals ect.
"The drug laws (in this country) are so stupid that anyone supporting them is either a complete moron or part of the racket." - Alan Watts
SojournerLi 1 month ago
This says it all! watch?v=xB79spC8sDU
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
Another great video Stef :)
AMY66354 1 month ago
Powerful! The emotion cuts through the trance that the propraganda from the system has put them in. I am frustrated though, It just seems like we in the U.S. keep losing ground. Like with the passage of the NDAA. Now SOFA/PIPA are coming up for vote in congress. I just feel like the system keeps closing in on us. What do we do? I blog and talk to people, but I think I freak people out. It is as if truth is a bad thing and lies are valued the most. What do we do arm ourselves? I do what can do..
CaniPaul1 1 month ago
I don't see how isolating yourself is helpful. It takes time to convince people to shift their way of thinking. If we isolated people, in the anger that Stef is feeling here, it would lead to something more akin to civil war than revolution. Stef's anger in this video wasn't well channeled, it was a little awkward. At least I felt awkward for him when watching it. Don't forget Stef, the goal here is winning hearts and minds, not making it us vs. them with our own friends and family.
CheckAllFrequencies 1 month ago 3
Did you have too much coffee before this video?
I would like to convince people the value of freedom and this usually takes time. I don't want to throw people away so quickly. Some friends disagree with most but accept one idea. Then when you see them later in a week or two they agree with two ideas. You can see that they are slowly coming around. An ultimatum would not have achieved this.
ronwandell 1 month ago
every one needs to put there money where there mouth is!!! dont pay your taxes fuck them
deadongeorge 1 month ago
Overall a good video, though I feel the point would have come across just perfectly without cursing (twice!) Peace of mind, peace of heart through the eternal piece of Spirit and Soul, our original constitution. Blessings!
carlojonkers 1 month ago
@carlojonkers What did you expect, the man is a drama queen.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun I'm just saying... the point would come better across without that fowling of the entire energy of the video, to my humble opinion.
carlojonkers 1 month ago
this is the fuckin' truth. recognize.
Fennias 1 month ago
Dear twelve year old assholes, please stop making brainwashed comments you learned from your school teacher on stefs videos as his reasoning is totally sound.
lordweaselfreak 1 month ago 19
@lordweaselfreak It's actually contradictory to his prior videos.
twilightawakening 1 month ago in playlist More videos from stefbot
aaaaand,
He wants you to have only friends that think like him. Friends are kind of a personal choice, I always thought.
People can have a few good points, and still be totally daft. I don't mean friends, I mean this guy.
SlimStrontem 1 month ago
Fuckin' A Stef! Fuckin' A!
TigronX 1 month ago
@stefbot (1/2) I'm on the page with you in general about your points here, but I've wondered (with many of these "appeal to the human side of your friends/family" proposals) if you've considered the possibility that the "emotional blackmail", even if justified and reasonable, might be simply ineffective if people can't be rationally convinced of the blackmail's "premise", i.e. that reality actually is exactly as the proposal describes. (continued in next - 2/2)
mattsamudio 1 month ago
@mattsamudio @stefbot (2/2) What I run into alot is that people have a hard time getting past the suspicion that I (or anyone with these proposals) am a raving paranoid conspiracy-minded lunatic, and the accusations that are being laid at their feet are some kind of "trick" or brainwashing. In other words, they have a hard time shaking their *actual* brainwashing, and simply don't quite believe the premise that the "emotional blackmailing" is based on, and so it doesn't work.
mattsamudio 1 month ago
@mattsamudio You are right that this approach is perhaps less likely to help people see the truh, but it seems like the only way to have a life free of violence. Wich, I guess, steph would argue is worth more than any set of friends you care to propose.
SlaveryEvolves 1 month ago
My wife and I have lost a number of acquaintances due to our objection to the wars. We made some logical arguments against the wars, very politely, on 9/11/11, when most people were in a nationalistic fervor, and many people became extremely offended. Mentioning an objection to the war on drugs has also caused quite a few rifts in our social circle. My wife summed it up pretty well though, she said, "I am glad I said what I said, it revealed to me who is my friend and who isn't."
erentheca 1 month ago 33
well said stef
Xtrainious 1 month ago
STOP THAT! MY SPEAKERS!!!!!
humacyrnus 1 month ago in playlist More videos from stefbot
love it bro <3
wingedknight 1 month ago
This guy is such a drama queen as well as a control freak. The state is a tool, like any other tool it can be used for good or evil depending upon who is using it.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun yes, and most of the people in power now are just there for the gold lined pension plan. they don't care about you, only your money.
MrAmalsam 1 month ago
@MrAmalsam You mean their money, it's all their money. At least that's how they see it.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun What would you say it's being used for right now then? good or evil?
ninjapig2011 1 month ago
@ninjapig2011 In the U.S. evil, but my point is stat-ism is not inherently evil. I'm a democratic socialist and when I look at a prosperous country like Norway I don't see evil. The happiest and most prosperous states in the world are democratic socialist states. We don't need less regulation, but more and smarter regulation. Deregulation of Wall Street is what caused this economic mess we're in.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun You're missing the underlying argument that Stef actually holds. He can't re-state it from the beginning at every turn, so its an unfortunate inconvenience that some have to take the time to inform themselves of it. What I refer to is the rather well-supported argument that *any* state, regardless of its particulars, is by nature a monopoly on force, which *is* inherently evil. What happens in your "friendly" socialist states when someone refuses to comply with their laws ?
mattsamudio 1 month ago
@mattsamudio It is naive to believe that people can exist without some form of governance.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun I disagree - I rather think its naive to consider all proposals of anarchy trivially indefensible (which is what would be implied by your statement concerning naivety).
mattsamudio 1 month ago
@mattsamudio It should be obvious that once states are removed society would descend into a tyrannous rule of corporations. As a matter of fact, the deregulation of Wall Street has practically given us that now.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun Corporations can't exists without a state.
Might I suggest that you read and thoroughly consider actual well-structured arguments for anarchy, and actually have something logically compelling to counter with before dismissing. Stef's free books, in particular "How (not) to Achieve Freedom" and "Practical Anarchy", would be good places to start.
mattsamudio 1 month ago
@mattsamudio Nothing the man has said has many any sense yet. He mostly regurgitates Rand who is a dime-store version of Nietzsche. It just more repackaged justifications for selfishness. Chomsky has pretty much made the argument against this brand of anarchy. I suggest you check out what he has to say on it. watch?v=YIpJQEcXP7A
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun An Ayn Rand troll on the interwebs? no wai! I am shocked.
YourNameHere1212 1 month ago
@YourNameHere1212 LOL, and this one is possibly the worst of them all.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun Unfortunately, your cite doesn't apply very well - he only addresses corporatations as they exist in the 20th century (by his own admission), which are, sorry to correct you, complete fabrications born of state power. He says nothing that counters proposals by Stef, who also, by the way, very openly opposes Rand on several points. I'd advise addressing proposals directly instead of erecting generalization-based strawmen. Chomsky is also wrong on alot of things, IMHO.
mattsamudio 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun
I went and watched chomsky's video as you suggested. He's wrong on a fundamental level- the public sector is not accountable to anyone. He has it completely backwards. I've got a comment there at the top if you want to check it out.
jarvy251 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun Governance is often falsely linked to the use of force. Voluntary groups have organization. They "govern" how they operate as a group bu they don't use force. Oddly enough, the use of force tend to prevent effective organization. One way to think about this is traffic rules such as everyone drives one direction drive on the the same side of the road. People don't need to be forced to do that. People must be forced to do things they don't agree with or are harmful to them.
MarkProffitt 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun Yeah, that's true. I don't like the idea of being "led" but in a civil country like Norway I wouldn't complain about paying taxes, being that they go to bettering the people.
ninjapig2011 1 month ago
@ninjapig2011 Exactly!!, If you're getting a good return it's worth it, if it's being pissed away ,time for a change.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun But the thing is, that if you would change the bad things that government brings with it, there would be nothing left to call government. For example: "Government" without the use of violence. That would be a charity based company. If you take the violence away from government the fewest people would choose their solutions because it would be allowed for other people to provide the services which people need.
gozxdesastros 1 month ago
@gozxdesastros I don't agree with your premise.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun Since I know now from all the posts i've red from you and the little visit in your channel that you are just a troll trying to disturb anyone with your dumb ass accusations, I wont talk with you anymore. Because I dont think you are just not intelligent enough to understand stefs stuff, I think you are just a very bad person.
gozxdesastros 1 month ago
@gozxdesastros Actually I see through it. It's shit.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun You're actually calling a guy who makes videos on Youtube a control freak?
The state is tool that requires evil to even exist in the first place so I can't agree with your argument.
andrewh817 1 month ago
@andrewh817 Yes, it's one thing to put forth a point of view, quite another to tell your followers to cut relations with anyone who doesn't agree with you. He's more than a guy who makes videos, he's a budding cult leader. I'm glad you and others don't agree with me, I would be quite concerned if everybody did agree with me. But I stand by my statement, but I agree there are very few benevolent examples of states, but some socialist states seem to truly stand for their citizens.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun He didn't tell his followers to cut relations with anyone who doesn't agree with them. If you're going to make accusations at least be sure they hold up to a moment's cross-referencing. He said to the people who brought up emotional blackmail that it is ridiculous to chastise him for advocating that when their statist friends are advocating them being chained or killed for putting their disagreement into action against state policies. Get your facts straight.
andrewh817 1 month ago
@andrewh817 I'm not referring to this video exclusively. His beliefs and teachings are intentionally divisive. There are websites dedicated to the families broken up by this man's beliefs and instruction to young people to turn their backs on their families. You should do your own fact checking before questioning mine.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun It doesn't matter if you're referring to this video exclusively. His ideas are divisive - they divide truth from falsehood, though he speaks of his opinions as well. I've been listening to FDR for over 2 1/2 years so telling me to fact check is ridiculous - he's never told anyone to turn their back on their families. He says to be honest and open with those they want in their lives, see their reaction, and in some cases breaking with those people is a healthy response.
andrewh817 1 month ago
@andrewh817 Then what is defooing?
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun I think you already know. It's withdrawing association from members of your family who have been abusive to you if when you confront them about said abuse they are condescending towards you and your feelings and refuse to empathize with how you felt then and feel now. But this whole topic is relevant to any of my criticisms of you and your lack of intellectual integrity anyhow, because he's never told anyone they must defoo.
andrewh817 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun As much as you like to use religious phrases like "his teachings" and "his followers," they don't change the fact that he advocates the use of reason and evidence above all other ideas, which is NOTHING like a cult leader. He doesn't tell people what their opinions should be, he doesn't tell people what to do, and he doesn't demand that everyone agree with him. If you have arguments against his ideas, put them forth instead of spouting vague, negatively connotated words
andrewh817 1 month ago
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@andrewh817 " he doesn't demand that everyone agree with him", no but that you only associate with those who do.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
@ShadeToSun I'm upset hundreds of thousands of innocent people die overseas and I'm a drama queen!
RKAddict101 1 month ago
@RKAddict101 If you act out like a raving idiot, yes, that makes you a drama queen. I appreciate intellectual calm over insane ranting any day. Stevie-boy is style (using that word loosely) over substance. Many who use bravado to sell their ideas do so because they know they are standing on a weak base. I feel this is the case here. I am angry over how states lie to create reasons for war too, but this video is 'grandstanding' for effect and salesmanship.
ShadeToSun 1 month ago
I like how you say 'Eviiiil!'
AwokenTigerEyE 1 month ago
I like how you say 'Eviiiil!'
AwokenTigerEyE 1 month ago
I would like the people who want to lock me up to be locked up.
undeadpresident 1 month ago
euhm, I think I was the one who uttered the words emotional blackmail. and I think I won't ever do it again. although If I was the one provoking this response I'm kinda proud, though emberessment comes more to mind. finally put in my place I guess
again, you are completly right. at the moment not sure who my enemies, frienemies enefriends en whatnot are. but ill figure it out. momentairily happy to be alive and "free"
thank you.
landloper1986 1 month ago
Beautiful. I love the tempered anger. Particularly poignant was ending at the beginning -- the problem is not emotional blackmail. Fools. They know not what they do.
rabbitcreative 1 month ago
im sorry but i really dont see anything changing until people are willing to do more than just talk about the subject and are willing to put something more substantial on the line than just words at this point im afraid its like trying to reason with a thug beating your for his pleasure more than to just get your money and no amount of reasoning will turn him back.
whiterchocolate 1 month ago
This shoutout had just the right amount of shouting, very passionate! Love you Stef!
MonkeyBusiness233 1 month ago
I thought he was going to extend his middle digit at the very end. : )
The best response to the idiots who still support the war on drugs is: People like you should be rounded up and put into re-education camps or prison.
4Freedomrider 1 month ago
Thanks for a great video.
kurtbirk 1 month ago
Stef, would you vote for Ron Paul if a friend made a passionate speech for it?
glasnikov 1 month ago
steff the true self knows you speak the truth.
darrenrooke 1 month ago
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darrenrooke 1 month ago
i brandish my weapons in the face of a totalitarian "administration" and retreat to the safety of the wilderness in order to live a life free of arbitrary restrictions that directly interfere with my life, my liberty, and the pursuit of my happiness.
surviving in the wilderness can't be much harder than surviving in this society.
Mueychacha 1 month ago
Powerful video right here. Thank you!
Permaculturist 1 month ago
For as much as I agree with you (100% is an understatement lol), I would like to point out that with time your videos have been getting angrier. I totally understand your anger as the same things ruin my days. But please Stef, if not for your credibility, then for your health, please try to chill. Smoke a joint or something :D Your daughter will appreciate having you around as long as possible, and all this anger is doing nothing but raising your blood pressure which may result in illness. LOVE!
elchafa 1 month ago
@elchafa Anger is a very healthy emotion. No emotion is unhealthy. Just replace the word anger with happy in your statement and you'll see how horrific that is.
Gu3rr1lla 1 month ago
@Gu3rr1lla Hmmm it is healthy to express emotions, but would you be more interested to be around a smiley or a screaming person? Who would you say has a better chance to live longer, the smiley or the angry person? I rest my point.
elchafa 1 month ago
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Mueychacha 1 month ago
peace and love are not physical shields against fascism
Mueychacha 1 month ago
@elchafa I've been watching his videos and listening to his podcasts for 2 1/2 years and I don't see the increase in anger that you're talking about. And why would anger hurt the credibility of one's argument?
People who bring up their opponent's emotional state rather than address their opponent's arguments are not interested in the truth.
andrewh817 1 month ago
@andrewh817 He didn't scream on earlier videos.
Cred: It shouldn't but it does because some people are morons. And those people are precisely the ones whose minds we need to help change in order for a better society to exist.
As a side note, why is everybody replying nonsense to my original comment? It's like you are offended that I made a comment to Stefan with a healthy opinion, and that is a sign that you are getting fanaticized. Stef is just a person, like you and me, not an idol to worship.
elchafa 1 month ago
@elchafa If people can't look past the emotions of the person making the argument and actually listen to the argument then they're not the type of people willing to change their minds when presented with reason and evidence when it comes to philosophy. Telling me that "Stef is just a person, like you and me, not an idol to worship" is extremely condescending.
andrewh817 1 month ago
I don't really think statists think like that - I don't think they think at all. But never the less they think you should be thrown in jail if you, for example, don't wear your belt when driving in your car.. its a crazy world..
STAB1L 1 month ago
Stop the wars, stop the killings. What's wrong with us humans.
wisefulone 1 month ago
excellent video and spot on ideology
dezldummi 1 month ago
Thank you, Stef!
MrSethAction 1 month ago
Remind me never to piss of Stef.
SuperMarcBot 1 month ago
those who said your position was emotional blackmail were demonstrating their awareness that it is they who are blackmailed emotionally, which is a strong theme in this line of reasoning. They were also demonstrating classic transference. It is always easier to blame the messenger than to take responsibility for ones own cognitive dissonance. The state cannot exist as it does today without the acquiescence of all those who bury their heads in the sand.
krynnotaur 1 month ago
So much for "without too much shouting." :)
I object to this advocacy of throwing away friends who refuse to see reason. My friends and family are extremely important to me. That doesn't mean I won't try to convince them to pursue freedom with me, rather that I'll never give up on them. Like Luke and Vader.
josephfwalker 1 month ago
Calm down Stefan. Your anger was distracting.
optionism 1 month ago
wow! fired up today. always great but even better today.
dickiepipes 1 month ago
Stef,
I feel the same way. Sadly, I have lost most of my friends. However, I have no regret. By advocating violence against me, they were never really my friends in the first place. Fantastic speech.
chuska8383 1 month ago
Anybody else brought to tears?
dijion23 1 month ago
@dijion23 Yes
OliverGerard 1 month ago
I agree 100%...that's why I've been promoting the ideology to cease paying taxes, because those taxes go to supporting said atrocities. That's also why I have not generated any amount of taxable income last year. This will be the first year I will be able to submit a tax return with a free and clear conscience. How much tax will they be able to acquire from me in order to continue perpetuating these atrocities?...$0.00. :)
mdlittle5466 1 month ago
spot on Stefan, The blood of millions is , indirectley on the hands of millions of US taxpayers. They are too dumbed down to realize it.
stealinator 1 month ago
I find it amazing and sad the way that people have been domesticated into this messed up sense of morality. Stef, you've smashed it again! The problem is that mankind has been dazzled by the sales pitch - I'm not saying you're making a sales pitch -you're telling the truth. The philosophical stuff is important, but what I find is that when you back it up with evidence of how it's been done - not ideologically but technically - light bulbs go off in peoples heads. Good work, Stef!
anafael1 1 month ago
Great point about funding being the real target and not so much protests and argument. Gonna share this!
karlpokus 1 month ago in playlist Fler videoklipp från stefbot
You still got it stef!
LibertarianOnline 1 month ago
Statrix in YOUR FACE GODDAMMIT!
moondoomj 1 month ago
Stef, great video. But just in case anyone has to be somewhere and doesn't have the time here's a quick version I made up: "You won't be able to live the way you've always lived, and wake up in the world you hope to see".
alistairproductions 1 month ago
I guess im lucky to have friends that dont give a shit about politics.
If I gave them this speech they would say, "uhh yeah whatever bro, i dont know anything about that shit".
Works for me.
Equity213 1 month ago
@Equity213 if you dont do politics, politics do you.
TheHemanHunter 1 month ago
One of the best rants I've ever seen - and one of your best videos too. Awesome.
jabmeister 1 month ago
wow Stef. fired up bro. i feel you.
weeearthlings 1 month ago
epic
darrenrooke 1 month ago
Stef nailed it (again!), beautiful!
cowfootman 1 month ago
awesome
Zlo53 1 month ago
This man speaks truth.
Draginvry2 1 month ago 11
What a fantastic video. Thank you.
8daystillmonday 1 month ago 5
I see a lot of division of country and division of friends in the near future.
Slings66 1 month ago
@Slings66 I see no freedom in the cultures around the world. i see tyranny, slavery, wars, debt if we continue on this path.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
I love this passion Stef!
veritasunleashed 1 month ago
Well dude, you give so called "Liberals" a bad name, your friends are your friends. Your intolerance is your downfall. I'm not Liberal or Conservative, I'm not a Ron Paul supporter. You are sorely wrong, in my faith we have to love people as a person no matter what the sin, political beliefs, race, traditions.
By the way, you just described most Liberal mentalities and the end days.
TheOsaka1337 1 month ago
@TheOsaka1337 Faith is a politically correct way of saying delusion, and perhaps a sorry excuse for not taking responsibility, but nothing more.
SlaveryEvolves 1 month ago
@SlaveryEvolves Its not delusion, its the way some people claim to be but never live up to it. Even a man who doesn't believe in God, can love and accept people. Though I have not ran into many, even Atheist can be conservative, republican and whatever is associated with those these days.
TheOsaka1337 1 month ago
@SlaveryEvolves Every elder that I know, that is older than my parents says: No one has respect for each-other anymore. Men used to hold their foul language among woman, people used to hold their foul language in respect for others.
Time's change, why does respect have to?
TheOsaka1337 1 month ago
@TheOsaka1337 what does "foul" language have to do with respect?
IFE10M 1 month ago
@IFE10M Not all people think its alright to use foul words, even if they are not christian. A "bitch" is a female dog but when you call a woman one, your calling her a used woman, a illegitimate mother (What do you think a "bastard"), prostitute, a whore. Does that sound respectful?
TheOsaka1337 1 month ago
@TheOsaka1337
1. Define what makes a word foul
2. Insulting someone with any word shows a lack of respect for that that person, not just with ones that you consider foul.
IFE10M 1 month ago
@IFE10M Pretty much any insult is what I meant.
It also makes you look unintelligent and shows lack of self respect when you over curse words. Kind of like those who use the word "fuck" more than any word in the english language when they are mad, etc. Like those people who end a argument with "Fuck you", even to a man to a man. A literal mind person might throw a wise crack at them and tease them a bit, and another type would be like "Did you know what you just said to me?".
TheOsaka1337 1 month ago
@TheOsaka1337 Pretty sure I didn't say anything that anyone would consider a foul word. If something I said insulted you, that's different. I'm sorry if that's the case, but everything I said is true, so the problem here lies in your delusion, honestly.
SlaveryEvolves 1 month ago