@nrevelations777 The Backburner does an incredible amount these days. Lack of Airblast was a feature that even the basic Flamethrower had to earn. The Backburner chose extra damage over Airblast.
From the front it STILL does more damage than most weapons. Pyros with shotguns likely can only beat a Backburner Pyro.
I regularly beat backburner pyros by just airblasting them back and shotgunning them. I am also more survivable soldiers and demos, and I am able to knock ubers back, or in some cases knock people off cliffs.
10% damage is not even close to being worth the airblast, and I have the degreaser, so it's doubly not worth the airblast, since I can airblast then immediatly shotgun, or kill an overhealed heavy faster than any other class except spy or sniper with my axtinguisher.
I've also found Backburners a good anti-Spy weapon, as they run for their lives and Cloak after Sapping sometimes. The Homewrecker is on standby in case they get my Engi as well.
@nrevelations777 They may be just jerky in a suit, but they're twitchy little bastards... if they're Disguised as an Engineer during a Sap Streak, it's a little hard to tell the difference between him and your buddies setting up their defensive Sentries.
Sometimes they're hard to kill when they run. They hide around corners and dodge Flares a little easily...
You seem to be 'professional', so tell me... should I pursue a fleeing Spy until I kill him?
You can tell which engie is a spy because he's the one that's on fire when you spam fire around.
And it depends on the situation. If they run around a corner that your team doesn't control, like, back towards an enemy CP, it might be good to just let him run. If you're going homewrecker pyro, you've done you're job if he's running away, your teammates can get him, while you keep the buildings up. If he doesn't die, you're alerted that there's a (wounded) spy running around.
@iLoveEatingPie what Promenius said and also, its very hard to set up a decent base if your teamates cant hold off the other team for a while, and since pyro rush is very aggressive, the teamates could have a real problem to hold them off for long periods.
@xero5268 actually, if the spy disguised as a pyro and went in the back, it would be backstab heaven, as what spy would be suicidal enough to try for them to think of spy-checking?
so have i. i just said lets have a scout rush and everyone went scout it was so funny. when the doors opened everyone was in a formation i was in it to and we were chasing one engy it was funny and we captured two control points fast and the last one everyone went sniper for some reason
Can take down Good scouts, moderate soldiers, most pyro's, OK demomen and nooby heavy's...
But when they even meet any of those classes with similar skills to the pyro's, That pyro has got a big chance of lose that duel.
(Side note: Normal flamethrower, make it your fav again please. It allows you to go head on more giving you a steadier flow of kills and direct pressure AKA Credit to team.)
Well, I play this game on xbox, (shitty pc) with no weapon updates yet, and the pyro isn't overpowered at all. Its one of the more annoying classes to play against (apart from soldier IMO). But, maybe its the weapon updates which have affected the balance. I'm sure when they all come out it'll be better balanced again, and more interesting.
Yeah, the great thing about the weapon updates is that they have both an advantage and a disadvantage; generally, there is no "best" weapon (upgraded or not) for all situations.
So you know he moves at the same speed as all other classes, barring the Soldier, Heavy and Scout
Most classes can beat the Pyro in 1v1 combat by simply running back and shooting, the only real way the Pyro can get any kills without being slaughtered halfway through is by using the air blast or ambushing people.
Valve spent 9 years ironing out all the balance issues before releasing the game, and they continue to update it, nothing is overpowered no matter your opinion.
That would mean the only thing unable to outrun the Pyro would be the Heavy and Soldier, considering the rocket launcher will knock him away and the minigun will kill him in under a second at close range, the Pyro would become powerless and easy to defeat for almost every class.
No, That would force the pyro to have to AMBUSH, which the class is designed for. Like, everybody hated the pyro in TFC, because they didn't ambush. But they learned, and the skilled pyros ambushed back then. Now, a pyro can just hold down W, and hold Mouse1 and instantly win.
So the Pyro is basically another Spy, minus the disguises, speed, and instant kill backstab.
That flame isnt as overpowered as you think, yes it instant kills anybody with crit or at melee range but if they dont ambush, then I can simply hold S and mouse 1, easy kill.
No, spys get burned. A pyro is a spy with more health, can't be burned, and has a more overpowered weapon. AND can deflect rockets, flares, stickies, pipe-bombs, and any critical version of those.
If you get the timing right, and see it coming, in a reasonably large battle (above 6 players battling) its impossible to notice before it you get hit, and 25 ammo per burst, only 8 shots then no more flame or deflection
But you know what, im done arguing, you wont listen to logic, so forget it.
Lol, Pyros are overpowered? They're absolutely helpless in face-to-face approaches and their best option outside of the flamethrower's range (which isn't that far) is the shotgun, which everyone also has, or the flare gun, which is generally a terrible weapon.
Most of the people I've encountered that defend console FPS play way too much Halo, which, as far as multiplayer goes, is incredibly mediocre when compared to TF2. PC is defiantly the way to go for an FPS.
Imo, 3-4 pyros, 2 heavies w/ 2 medics, and a back-u[ sniper is an amazing combo on this map. My team won (along with other people than what I've listed) in 22 seconds xD
I almost did a full Pyro rush on Goldrush. Half pyros, and the other half insisted on being medics. It actually worked quite well and we slaughtered the opposition in just a couple of minutes :O
You guise, don't you get it? He's saying "kamehameha"! Hence the taunt.
JacobTefft 3 months ago
W+M1 to the MAX!!!
halfwelshman1 4 months ago
Glorious
KAR1975 4 months ago
ZERG RUUUUSH!
RawrNinjaBurgers 5 months ago
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Burn baby burn, disco inferno!
linkanator 6 months ago
Fire makes everything better!
TheGreatIbbolia 6 months ago
From 0:11 the heavy said " ohh shiet FUCK ME"
hksolo 7 months ago
Spy's Nightmare
Engineer's Dream
paladinxx10 7 months ago 3
BURNATION!!!!!!
Arawin1 9 months ago
pyro taunt
wienkmaster 10 months ago
You all should've use Backburners.
theguywhoannoysme 1 year ago
@theguywhoannoysme
Except they're not retarded.
nrevelations777 11 months ago
@nrevelations777 The Backburner does an incredible amount these days. Lack of Airblast was a feature that even the basic Flamethrower had to earn. The Backburner chose extra damage over Airblast.
From the front it STILL does more damage than most weapons. Pyros with shotguns likely can only beat a Backburner Pyro.
theguywhoannoysme 11 months ago
@theguywhoannoysme
I regularly beat backburner pyros by just airblasting them back and shotgunning them. I am also more survivable soldiers and demos, and I am able to knock ubers back, or in some cases knock people off cliffs.
10% damage is not even close to being worth the airblast, and I have the degreaser, so it's doubly not worth the airblast, since I can airblast then immediatly shotgun, or kill an overhealed heavy faster than any other class except spy or sniper with my axtinguisher.
nrevelations777 11 months ago
@nrevelations777 It's either Backburner or Degreaser.
I've also found Backburners a good anti-Spy weapon, as they run for their lives and Cloak after Sapping sometimes. The Homewrecker is on standby in case they get my Engi as well.
theguywhoannoysme 11 months ago
@theguywhoannoysme
Spies are so squishy, if you can't beat them with a degreaser + flare/shotgun you should play a different class.
nrevelations777 11 months ago
@nrevelations777 They may be just jerky in a suit, but they're twitchy little bastards... if they're Disguised as an Engineer during a Sap Streak, it's a little hard to tell the difference between him and your buddies setting up their defensive Sentries.
Sometimes they're hard to kill when they run. They hide around corners and dodge Flares a little easily...
You seem to be 'professional', so tell me... should I pursue a fleeing Spy until I kill him?
theguywhoannoysme 11 months ago
@theguywhoannoysme
You can tell which engie is a spy because he's the one that's on fire when you spam fire around.
And it depends on the situation. If they run around a corner that your team doesn't control, like, back towards an enemy CP, it might be good to just let him run. If you're going homewrecker pyro, you've done you're job if he's running away, your teammates can get him, while you keep the buildings up. If he doesn't die, you're alerted that there's a (wounded) spy running around.
nrevelations777 11 months ago
@nrevelations777 Thanks.
theguywhoannoysme 11 months ago
Its impossible too lose with a pyro rush...
As long as everyone has Flamethrower or Backburner+Flaregun+Axetinguisher you will pretty much win every match...
Darknectar18 1 year ago
Pyros
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TheSaintGamer 1 year ago
PRYO IS CREDIT TO TEAM
drmario711 1 year ago
I think i spy just woke up to a very bad nightmare
LordOgax 1 year ago
0:13
Heavy: INCOMING!!!!
Medic: They have pyros, RUN!
jakzine540 1 year ago
i have seen bad things before but this got to be the worst day on the red teams life O_o"
robinpers 1 year ago
/watch?v=T7Mhcbw-kiE
xD
imjusttryin 1 year ago
When you die, how come it zooms into the player who just killed you in a freeze frame?
MrCorpseGrinder88 1 year ago
I think you're very luck there's so few an engineer.
massoluk 1 year ago
The Gates of Hell have opened!
DYLANDISASTERbz 1 year ago
25 spys watched this video
itsH2so4 1 year ago
W+M1
TheDarkLatias950 1 year ago
I FUCKIN HATE PYRO'S!
vesleengen 1 year ago
@vesleengen The Pyro's what? What possession of The Pyro do you dislike?
thesxex 1 year ago
@thesxex - Pyro's exclamation point?
cyborgtroy 1 year ago
@cyborgtroy Maybe.
thesxex 1 year ago
why so srs :L
Barsee23 1 year ago
I can never get everyone to do this. And pretty much all I play is Pyro.
NeptuneMS385 1 year ago
Oh, merde!
Exarian 1 year ago
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1. You are terrible at Pyro AND Team Fortress 2, go away.
2. Pyro Rush isn't a viable tactic, fuck off.
3. You eat balls.
Sectus2345 1 year ago
It's super effective ! A couple of sentries would have ruined it though.
iLoveEatingPie 1 year ago
@iLoveEatingPie
I remember my whole team pyro rushing once... We took out all the sentries with volleys of flare guns :P (the ones we could reach, anyway).
Promenius 1 year ago
@iLoveEatingPie what Promenius said and also, its very hard to set up a decent base if your teamates cant hold off the other team for a while, and since pyro rush is very aggressive, the teamates could have a real problem to hold them off for long periods.
Sheeprwer 1 year ago
This doesn't work because they're all pyros, it works because of aggressive team play, something that is severely lacking from TF2.
SteveCenders 1 year ago
Invasion of the W+M1 Team
untitled1productions 1 year ago
poor spies :P
DudeTheCrazy 1 year ago
Pyros are the coolest things since 2012.
RoboBalo 1 year ago
mmpmhmphmphmphm
Ickysnuck 1 year ago
Spies = Screwed.
luigifan1111 1 year ago
Spy checker rush
kingneo115 2 years ago 4
Red team was obviously being pretty noobish. No demo-spam in the beginning and no sentry on the first point. Entertaining to watch anyway.
lolloxor 2 years ago
Lucky that there were no ubercharges at the beginning, but awesome!
jinjasurfer 2 years ago
WOW pyros are such noobs lol an army of them would be friggin unstopable.
SporeGladiator 2 years ago
..a spies worst nightmare....
xero5268 2 years ago 14
@xero5268 actually, if the spy disguised as a pyro and went in the back, it would be backstab heaven, as what spy would be suicidal enough to try for them to think of spy-checking?
DarkEman245 1 year ago
is there any chance of ppl sellign it at 2nd hand shop coz im thinking of getting t2
taigokai 2 years ago
Hell no... Buy the Orange Box for 20$
DeDaDoDu 2 years ago
where can i get orange box
taigokai 2 years ago
Store?
DeDaDoDu 2 years ago
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taigokai 2 years ago
Gamestop... Wal Mart... In every store which sells video games I guess...
Or you could download Steam, and buy and download it directly fro there, but you need a credit card
DeDaDoDu 2 years ago
dude i found orange box !!! sweet now i get the game!
taigokai 2 years ago
@taigokai Maybe you should be really "desparte" to learn how to execute the English language properly rather than getting a video game.
ifhgsfj 2 years ago
@taigokai at a gameshop
SporeGladiator 2 years ago
On steam, it's 30$.
hyru913 1 year ago
Dude i got mien for 50$ rip offf D:
taigokai 2 years ago
I forgot that orange box is 50$... Because in Europe it is 20€...
DeDaDoDu 2 years ago
@DeDaDoDu the orange box is 26 bucks now
OMGNero 1 year ago
i bought tf2 alone at fry's for like 10$
SpaceBanaynay 2 years ago
The best is a huntsmans sniper rush!:
"Go go go!*Sees a wall of arrows* RETIRE!"
Hilian95 2 years ago
The pyro that sets on fire is the spy. =3
Blaqoon 2 years ago
lol
masterchopy 2 years ago
the pyros a spy...... which pyro I dunno you find out...
mcdoobies24 2 years ago
i was in the sentery rush ppl went engi and set up senterys and dispensers it wus fun
daylanzee 2 years ago
the pyro rush was is not effective untill they got airblast :D now smart pyrorush just punch all ubers away from them
MaxRideWizardLord 2 years ago
My flesh, it burns
IAMTHECAPSGODLOL 2 years ago 2
lol, kill it with fire!
doifhg 2 years ago
FIGHT FAIAH WITH FAIAH!
soh22 2 years ago 4
sniper rush ftl
Q3HackerPolice 2 years ago
i love pyro's!
MATRIX0MAN007 2 years ago 3
i dont like pyro's ¬¬' I LOVE THEM! hehe specially because his funny voice,laugh and screams! Rhramhhamramha!
MrRevoluzzer 2 years ago 7
lol i had a scout rush
SirValor1177 2 years ago 4
so have i. i just said lets have a scout rush and everyone went scout it was so funny. when the doors opened everyone was in a formation i was in it to and we were chasing one engy it was funny and we captured two control points fast and the last one everyone went sniper for some reason
Matster196 2 years ago
Otherwise known as 'Spy Hell'.
TheMarvelousHat 2 years ago 116
*Spy sees this nightmare*
Spy: GOD! I saw that dream again that blues make pyro rush :(
Dragonmike2690 2 years ago 7
KILL IT WITH F1@H!
VirgoTheCougar 2 years ago
A spys worst nightmare!
LvlUpProductions 2 years ago 75
@LvlUpProductions true true..
RadovanEdmond 1 year ago
oh yeah mphmpppphmmmmmmmhmmmm
pavelcernik 2 years ago 2
Thats a lot of 4 year olds! lol jk
ebayebayebayebayebay 2 years ago
lol its spy hell
YoshiKing911 2 years ago 2
MMMMMHMMMMMM MMMMMMMPHH
itachi456789 2 years ago 2
your owning that team like nothing man i have to try this some day!
Matster196 2 years ago
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omg your all a bunch of real mr f's (faggots)
gehur 2 years ago
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not really impressive considering as a pyro you just move and hold down the fire button..
Pwnsauce93 2 years ago
spy proof
AnimeGod75 2 years ago 6
lol pyros vs red team witch r medic LOL
AnimeGod75 2 years ago
SNiper with Jarat and Kukri would be fun
KnorpelDelux 2 years ago
In match where the entire enemy team is a pyro, there is no such thing as a spy.
Hidole555 2 years ago 12
Spies would be totally useless in a pyro rush. Pyros are mah fav class cause i like toasting spies.
Starscream3352 2 years ago 5
It's interesting to hear the beta Sentry sounds
WarningSDE 2 years ago
soldier rush/heavy rush/pyro rush = epicness
grumpherys 2 years ago 3
I belive I'm on fire.
Sucks for the spies.
HelloChief117 2 years ago 4
That was nice.
Spy rushes are awesome too :3.
Shaleblade 2 years ago
I probably get more building destructions as pyro than demo.
R0ADR4GE 2 years ago
That was hot!
xD
xTReDx 2 years ago
THAT PYRO IS A SPAIII
TF2Pyrosux 2 years ago
oooo a SPA :D
Aflood23 2 years ago
A spy's worst nightmare :(
DougVF1 2 years ago 7
For every room filled with unguarded sentries....
There's this.
Firionmasa 2 years ago 4
SPY CHECK!!!
Raller00 2 years ago 7
Lol and this proves that the only class that matters is pyro.
tomgreensucksass 2 years ago
not really, other team COULD be noob
Aflood23 2 years ago
be funny if you were all heavys. or spys. you could all turn invisible and trick the other team. lol
respectyourman 2 years ago
lol mmmphmm mmphmmphmmmm
killer107wallenx 3 years ago
Pyro's burnin mah sentry.
mimefan 3 years ago
Man, I'd rather see this video from the perspective of the reds.
FIRE EVERYWHERE!
dhx84 3 years ago
Caution: You are flammable.
prettycolors2 3 years ago
sucks to be a spy right now.
32tim32 3 years ago 2
stop drop and roll
junkmailboy1000 3 years ago
Haha "Take down the turret first.." "SENTRY DOWN"
CattlePuncher 3 years ago 3
1:18 - Burn, foos.
Geronimoia 3 years ago
babys
daedricchamp 3 years ago
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A Very skilled pyro...
Can take down Good scouts, moderate soldiers, most pyro's, OK demomen and nooby heavy's...
But when they even meet any of those classes with similar skills to the pyro's, That pyro has got a big chance of lose that duel.
(Side note: Normal flamethrower, make it your fav again please. It allows you to go head on more giving you a steadier flow of kills and direct pressure AKA Credit to team.)
(Side note 2: Flare gun sucks)
Ahrussoh 3 years ago
dude this was before the achievements were even thought up of, when everyone who played was 15+ years old.
the good ol' days
IKnowWereYouSleep 3 years ago 3
This is a FIREWALL!
Masterblaze0 3 years ago 8
lol nice
BOBALOO919 3 years ago
Well, I play this game on xbox, (shitty pc) with no weapon updates yet, and the pyro isn't overpowered at all. Its one of the more annoying classes to play against (apart from soldier IMO). But, maybe its the weapon updates which have affected the balance. I'm sure when they all come out it'll be better balanced again, and more interesting.
joshcautley 3 years ago
Weapon upgrades have a minimal effect on game balance...
IHaveACoolName 3 years ago
Yeah, the great thing about the weapon updates is that they have both an advantage and a disadvantage; generally, there is no "best" weapon (upgraded or not) for all situations.
TamiyaGuy123 3 years ago 3
no aim? no skill? no problem, play pyro
crunchsixfoe 3 years ago
my favorite type of rush :D
Acornlad5 3 years ago
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Since Pyros are overpowered, you can probaly achieve what happened here with just one pyro.
iamsmert123 3 years ago
Since you probably suck at the game, you could un-install the game and go back to Counter-Strike.
TommytExtreme 3 years ago
Example: The pyros flame shoots out to 5 feet, but the range is 10 feet. And the pyro is too fast.
iamsmert123 3 years ago
Example: God damn your right!
TommytExtreme 3 years ago
"Pyro is too fast"
So you know he moves at the same speed as all other classes, barring the Soldier, Heavy and Scout
Most classes can beat the Pyro in 1v1 combat by simply running back and shooting, the only real way the Pyro can get any kills without being slaughtered halfway through is by using the air blast or ambushing people.
Valve spent 9 years ironing out all the balance issues before releasing the game, and they continue to update it, nothing is overpowered no matter your opinion.
TrueTactics 3 years ago 3
Most classes, not slow or scout, are as fast as the pyro. If the pyro was as slow as the soldier, less problems will be had.
iamsmert123 3 years ago
That would mean the only thing unable to outrun the Pyro would be the Heavy and Soldier, considering the rocket launcher will knock him away and the minigun will kill him in under a second at close range, the Pyro would become powerless and easy to defeat for almost every class.
TrueTactics 3 years ago
No, That would force the pyro to have to AMBUSH, which the class is designed for. Like, everybody hated the pyro in TFC, because they didn't ambush. But they learned, and the skilled pyros ambushed back then. Now, a pyro can just hold down W, and hold Mouse1 and instantly win.
iamsmert123 3 years ago
So the Pyro is basically another Spy, minus the disguises, speed, and instant kill backstab.
That flame isnt as overpowered as you think, yes it instant kills anybody with crit or at melee range but if they dont ambush, then I can simply hold S and mouse 1, easy kill.
TrueTactics 3 years ago
No, spys get burned. A pyro is a spy with more health, can't be burned, and has a more overpowered weapon. AND can deflect rockets, flares, stickies, pipe-bombs, and any critical version of those.
iamsmert123 3 years ago
If you get the timing right, and see it coming, in a reasonably large battle (above 6 players battling) its impossible to notice before it you get hit, and 25 ammo per burst, only 8 shots then no more flame or deflection
But you know what, im done arguing, you wont listen to logic, so forget it.
TrueTactics 3 years ago 2
No, Do you see pyros using the plain ol' vanilla setup? No, its flaregun, backburner, and axetinguisher.
All I hear is the ROARRR of the Backburner. And, the pyros range is fucked.
iamsmert123 3 years ago
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You are fucked, be course you cant kill a pyro, so you start thinking :" It r teh gaem!! It cant possibly be me!!!"
TheDanishBadger 3 years ago
Hm...
-Do you start all messages with a 'No,'?
CosinusPW 3 years ago
No.
SHIT!
iamsmert123 3 years ago 5
Lol, Pyros are overpowered? They're absolutely helpless in face-to-face approaches and their best option outside of the flamethrower's range (which isn't that far) is the shotgun, which everyone also has, or the flare gun, which is generally a terrible weapon.
DRaGZ141 3 years ago 5
lol fast win. XD
famouskoifish 3 years ago
The Announcer is more of a traitor than the spy.
Foolfyer 3 years ago
WIN.
Now try it as sniper lol
OoblickInc 3 years ago 6
that would be HARD
4ngry4nus 3 years ago
or engi ;p
crazykijker2233 3 years ago
HUDDA?
Warcrazy911 3 years ago
I love that celebratory slaughter of the losing team after every game.
DeadBeatNick 3 years ago 3
I play on the console and I prefer it over PC.
Reason being: I've used a joystick for more than one month of my life.
Unit047 3 years ago
then buy a joystick for the PC :P (or a wired 360 controller)
Xemnas879 3 years ago
Yeah I'm planning on playing on the PC when I get a graphics card, then I might just get used to the mouse.
Unit047 3 years ago
mmhmhmmmmmm mmmhhhmhhhmhmhpmmmpmmpmmmmhm
Kankuro666666 3 years ago
100% pryos = FUCKING WIN
alexthepure 3 years ago 4
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No skills? No problem just play pyro.
THEPHOTOBOOTH 3 years ago
Each class has different uses and the only ranged weapon pyro has is the weak flare. No maturity? No problem just be thephotobooth
SeraphianKnight 3 years ago 6
nice burn lol
LordNavac 3 years ago
Most of the people I've encountered that defend console FPS play way too much Halo, which, as far as multiplayer goes, is incredibly mediocre when compared to TF2. PC is defiantly the way to go for an FPS.
simbot15 3 years ago 31
makes me want to start playing pyro...
LOLOLLOLOLL 3 years ago
wow, pyro looks like it's the best sorta rush out there.
silencedknight 3 years ago
Medic and heavey :O
lkolo222 3 years ago
Imo, 3-4 pyros, 2 heavies w/ 2 medics, and a back-u[ sniper is an amazing combo on this map. My team won (along with other people than what I've listed) in 22 seconds xD
SpankyJones10 3 years ago
FEEL THE BURN! :D
Rumit185 3 years ago
there's always one person who refuses to change class....
havemercybabe 3 years ago 7
I almost did a full Pyro rush on Goldrush. Half pyros, and the other half insisted on being medics. It actually worked quite well and we slaughtered the opposition in just a couple of minutes :O
zornor 3 years ago
I hate it when you get serious players on VoIP on TF2.
oldbinny 3 years ago
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You're a total loser.
Oder777 3 years ago
wow this looks fun xd
BrainSeepsOut 3 years ago
A good sentry and say good bye to all pyros
Obiwank63 3 years ago 3