A stomp is a push. Side Kick is a powerful technique that can crack ribs. A push (stomp) simply won't accomplish that.
Side Kick is a fast penetrating technique, not a pushing one. I think he is saying that even though it is done with a stomping motion (ie. knee chambered into the chest) you can carry it too far and it becomes a pushing stomp, losing its speed thus it's penetrating power.
Side Kick is a powerful technique that can crack ribs.
A pushing motion (stomp) simply won't accomplish that.
I think what he is saying is even though it is done in a stomping manner (ie, knee into the chest) it can be taken too far making it a pushing stomp, causing it to lose speed thus penetrating power.
It's a very detailed oriented difference, but a very important one.
@TheGhostnthemachine your wrong it doesn't lose power If you bring your knee to your chest. Bringing you knee to your chest creates more power because it forces you to kick from you hip and not your knee. it also keeps your body inline.
@TKDGangsta1 I respectfully disagree. If your heel is inline with your kicking leg hip, then your body will be inline regardless. Kicking foot heel, knee, hip, and shoulder should be in line to maintain a "powerline" ( as said in the video). But bringing your knee all the way into your chest makes your kick weak by making it a pushing stomp. Don't get me wrong, you should pull your knee up and in, but a lot of people go to extremes. I've seen a lot of weak Side Kicks because people push.
@TheGhostnthemachine This is a very confusing and technical issue, but IF your goal is to bring the foot out in a perfectly straight line you must start with the heel slightly in front of the hip. It seems counterintuitive but it's correct.
This is a fantastic tutorial and everything else is 100% correct, but if you watch Ben's rechamber you'll notice it looks like a roundhouse rechamber, and it's difficult to see from this angle, but it returns in an arc rather than a perfectly straight line.
@0SCJustJohn I disagree about the rechamber being similar to a roundhouse kick rechamber though. Its not NEARLY that exaggerated even if it is off line a little. A correct roundhouse kick chamber (and rechamber) is to have the kicking foot BEHIND the leg. Basically if this were a roundhouse kick, his right knee would be inline with his right hip and right shoulder and his kicking foot would be behind his butt. Its not even CLOSE to that.
@TheGhostnthemachine I just meant that the motion looks like the motion for a roundhouse re-chamber, not that the foot/knee/hip alignment was similar.
I completely agree that the heel stays very close to the center line. I was simply raising the point that it's nearly impossible to keep it exactly on the line when you start with the heel all the way back at the hip.
@0SCJustJohn I see what you're saying. However, I don't think it strays very much at all from the center line. If its one gripe I have with this video, it would be that the kick is executed vertically. It is EXTREMELY difficult to maintain correct technique while executing a side kick vertically (which Ben does well) but it makes for a bad angle (you're practically seeing the kick from below). I would like to see Ben execute a side kick at his waist or head level.
Don't worry about it. That's how many people start. The reason isn't your flexibility (although that plays a role); it's your strength. Do the slow kicks he was talking about consistently. If it doesn't hurt, do them slower and higher. - It - Should - Hurt - . Push yourself to raise your kick up higher and higher in each step. Chamber, raise it up higher, kick out, raise it higher, rechamber, raise it higher. 10 reps each side every day? You'll kick head level in a matter of weeks.
Personally I like Ben better as a technical martial artist rather than a tricker. He has some of the cleanest basics out of the majority of extreme martial artist. May be a loss for said community but a substantial gain for the traditional martial arts community.
SIDE KICK IS A STOMP
GingerSkate7 1 year ago
WRONG. NO, IT ISN'T.
A stomp is a push. Side Kick is a powerful technique that can crack ribs. A push (stomp) simply won't accomplish that.
Side Kick is a fast penetrating technique, not a pushing one. I think he is saying that even though it is done with a stomping motion (ie. knee chambered into the chest) you can carry it too far and it becomes a pushing stomp, losing its speed thus it's penetrating power.
TheGhostnthemachine 1 year ago
WRONG. NO IT ISN'T.
Side Kick is a powerful technique that can crack ribs.
A pushing motion (stomp) simply won't accomplish that.
I think what he is saying is even though it is done in a stomping manner (ie, knee into the chest) it can be taken too far making it a pushing stomp, causing it to lose speed thus penetrating power.
It's a very detailed oriented difference, but a very important one.
TheGhostnthemachine 1 year ago
@TheGhostnthemachine your wrong it doesn't lose power If you bring your knee to your chest. Bringing you knee to your chest creates more power because it forces you to kick from you hip and not your knee. it also keeps your body inline.
TKDGangsta1 1 year ago
@TKDGangsta1 I respectfully disagree. If your heel is inline with your kicking leg hip, then your body will be inline regardless. Kicking foot heel, knee, hip, and shoulder should be in line to maintain a "powerline" ( as said in the video). But bringing your knee all the way into your chest makes your kick weak by making it a pushing stomp. Don't get me wrong, you should pull your knee up and in, but a lot of people go to extremes. I've seen a lot of weak Side Kicks because people push.
TheGhostnthemachine 1 year ago
@TheGhostnthemachine This is a very confusing and technical issue, but IF your goal is to bring the foot out in a perfectly straight line you must start with the heel slightly in front of the hip. It seems counterintuitive but it's correct.
This is a fantastic tutorial and everything else is 100% correct, but if you watch Ben's rechamber you'll notice it looks like a roundhouse rechamber, and it's difficult to see from this angle, but it returns in an arc rather than a perfectly straight line.
0SCJustJohn 1 year ago
@0SCJustJohn I disagree about the rechamber being similar to a roundhouse kick rechamber though. Its not NEARLY that exaggerated even if it is off line a little. A correct roundhouse kick chamber (and rechamber) is to have the kicking foot BEHIND the leg. Basically if this were a roundhouse kick, his right knee would be inline with his right hip and right shoulder and his kicking foot would be behind his butt. Its not even CLOSE to that.
TheGhostnthemachine 1 year ago
@TheGhostnthemachine I just meant that the motion looks like the motion for a roundhouse re-chamber, not that the foot/knee/hip alignment was similar.
I completely agree that the heel stays very close to the center line. I was simply raising the point that it's nearly impossible to keep it exactly on the line when you start with the heel all the way back at the hip.
0SCJustJohn 1 year ago
@TheGhostnthemachine He's a little hard to understand, but this guy addresses the issue from around 5:10-6:40 in this video: watch?v=B8HLJenYKeQ
If you try it I think you will find it is much easier to keep the kick from "slicing" this way. Best wishes and good training. -John
0SCJustJohn 1 year ago
@0SCJustJohn I see what you're saying. However, I don't think it strays very much at all from the center line. If its one gripe I have with this video, it would be that the kick is executed vertically. It is EXTREMELY difficult to maintain correct technique while executing a side kick vertically (which Ben does well) but it makes for a bad angle (you're practically seeing the kick from below). I would like to see Ben execute a side kick at his waist or head level.
TheGhostnthemachine 1 year ago
dude i suck at sidekicks, i can only kick at hip level =[ I won't give up tricking though NEVA
hakuboshi1 2 years ago
Don't worry about it. That's how many people start. The reason isn't your flexibility (although that plays a role); it's your strength. Do the slow kicks he was talking about consistently. If it doesn't hurt, do them slower and higher. - It - Should - Hurt - . Push yourself to raise your kick up higher and higher in each step. Chamber, raise it up higher, kick out, raise it higher, rechamber, raise it higher. 10 reps each side every day? You'll kick head level in a matter of weeks.
moose11235 2 years ago 4
i appreciate your comment very much. I started taekwondo, but your comment will definitly help. Thankyou very much
hakuboshi1 2 years ago 2
nice methodology!
masteringwushu 2 years ago
he is amazing
this helped so much
xoKarateQueen666 2 years ago
Personally I like Ben better as a technical martial artist rather than a tricker. He has some of the cleanest basics out of the majority of extreme martial artist. May be a loss for said community but a substantial gain for the traditional martial arts community.
HankV3ntur3 3 years ago 13
that Ben stopped tricking is maybe the biggest loss in tricking-history ( even if he still trains his martial arts basics) ...
I miss him so much...
Feilongtobi 3 years ago
perfect!!
valentinosolinas 3 years ago
beautiful; love your tutorials
SashimiTSK 3 years ago
amazingggg
davidtricks 3 years ago 2
Share more of his tutorials if you have any.
this was Really Helpfull
follemaru 3 years ago