It was a mistake to go down in cruiser. Only weightclass you can compete at 42 is heavy. Maybe shed a few pounds of fat and build a few pounds of muscle would be better. And we all saw what happened to RJJ after a dramatic weightloss.
Toney is on his way back to cruiser weight as we speak after he defends his title and fights shamrock, to fight Tarver & possibly Hopkins.& the thing is that, his body has acclamted to training and fighting heavy consistantly, his bones ligaments and muscles all acclamated,you could tell in the Reed fight where he weighed 257 pounds, he moved as well as he did if not better than his firsts fights at 237. now he's dropping weight, he's going to be extremely, quick and powerful. Just Trouble
notice how Runnin reed backs up the whole fight and when Toney takes a step back to set a trap or change up the fight Reed acts like Toneys runnin. Runnin Reed won't throw a jab cause he knows if he does, he'll get in a fight.
@QawiBraxton81 If you're on the street and you know jiu jitsu, you're telling me you're not going to use it?
Why? Why would you limit yourself for no reason? "This isn't in a sport environment, so I'm certainly not going to use my grappling ability to choke you unconscious and end the conflict!"
@pearcemark2 Fuck off... Just fuck off... Im tired of this argument..."you cant box in a real street fight" ...I just want to slap your mom for raising a baboon.
BOXING. IS. A. COMBAT. SPORT. JUST. LIKE. JUDO.KARATE. TAEKWONDO. WRESTLING. JIU-JITSU...
It was never imagined as a form of real fighting. Its seen as a sport. It evolved around the glory of two men using their fists and power to beat eachother. Now it has evolved into the sweet science.
@dooooooer Bullshit most just because toney who's over the hill lost doesn't mean all of boxing won. Just like when Ray Mercer was Knocking people out in MMA that didn't mean Boxing won, it was just one fighter and one secluded fight. It always matters whos doing the fighting. So skip on with that MMA is better bullshit. Boxing is golden, the sweet science, and if your timing is correct, you will put it to anybody who tries to harm you.
@dooooooer lol im an mma fan but it isnt real fighting. i mean cmon. mma on the street? you cant possibly do the shit that jake shields and gsp pulled at ufc 129 and expect to win a fight.
@ljitsu i didnt say 100% real fight it is the closest thing to real fight..........well in real fight you have head Stomping and no gloves you have no cage etc etc stuff like that.
@dooooooer I'm in boxing and I have kicked some annoying idiots' ass on the street so boxing works too, believe me!! Cheers!! Besides as someone here just said very well, who cares about it? boxing is the best sport in the world!!
@dooooooer with a good combination you can beat people in the streets too... you don't need MMA. And remember that a lot of boxers started fighting in the streets first. Mike Tyson, Roberto Duran, Sonny Liston and many others used to kick people's ass in the ring and out of the ring. You don't need MMA to do that.
@dooooooer not true at all, because a guy on the street could have a gun, and no form of self defense can protect you from that. Boxing and MMA give you an advantage in self defense but neither one can protect you from anything. It's stupid to say a boxer couldn't beat a guy on the street.
@dooooooer mma vs good boxer no chance.when wou want make take down you get knocked out.boxing is the alphpa and omega of fighting.example muhammad ali kills all mma fighters.boxing rulz.
@MrKilluminati248 pff.lol look at kimbo.he is shit.he cant box good he cant wrstle good.he has no kicks.but he still not bad in mma.boxers like roy jones would dominate mma easy with only boxing,good movement,good reflexes and good eyes.
@MortalSyntax arthur abraham is not a good boxer.he has not good boxing skills.and kicks are deadly against good boxers.so easy to conter a kick with a punch.kicks are easy to see.
@MortalSyntax okay im a boxer.i fought kickboxers and they looked poor against me.their boxing is not that good and their kicks arent that good too.only low kicks were good.a taek wan doo fighter surely would make me much much more trouble.becouse they are the masters of kicking.
@MrKilluminati248 dude i watch alot of k1 and tae kwon do fighters always do poor against pure kickboxers. their style focuses on speed and flashy movements and they are not used to getting hit by the more powerful kickboxers. hell even joe rogan who was a tae kwon do champion said it was completely useless against most strikers besides other tae kwon do artist.
@AsHeS2SweLL what i mean is.tak wan doo fighters allways can surprise me.in k1 i dont know so many tak wan doe fighters.only one.the turkish samurai.he has the best kicks.kickboxers allways lost against me in sparring.when they kicked me i blocked and countered hard many times they lost balance anf fall down.you know they are not master of kicking and they are not master in boxing.they are like a middle thing.but thats my experience.and not all boxers are the same.boxers with bad movement suck
@MortalSyntax I said most people from the US call Haye and Klitchko rubbish... and when you say things like this look at James the Joke Toney... No one will give him a shot as hes not worhty of licking Hayes or Klithckos boots.. He's a BUM
@Lacqueras you are a clown. Mma is going to be the greatest sport in the world and there is nothing you can do about it. If you think marines are gay also who train in jiu jitsu and muay thai you are just a dumb ass.
@dooooooer mma is real fighting? lmaooooo. im a fan and i wrestle, box, and do jiu jitsu. i really like mma honestly. but i have to say i dont think its real fighting. its sport. did you see ufc 129? the shit jake and george pulled isnt real fighting. a real fight wouldve ended much quicker.
@lilsm555 Fuck! I thought i had blocked you. ! Military combat is one thing. A sport is another. Boxing has a more solid foundation and a greater history.
@djk28161 NOT IN THIS FIGHT SILLY LOL! After this fight he has lost around 50 pounds FOR REAL! He's getting ready for his cruiserweight fight in november vS Denis Lebedev Nov 4
The guy Toney was fighting is a joke......any real boxer would use the jab against Toney to get in. When it was near the end of the fight, you can easily see how drained Toney was and how weak his punches were getting....
If I were the other guy, I would of just let loose since it appears to me that Toney wasn't conditioned enough to throw a basic 3 hit combo and couldn't go toe to toe with him.
Toney was great back in the day, but he should of quit a loooooooong time ago
Toney is just a shadow of what he once was, major decline of skills and stamina, it`s painful to watch him now. Anybody in the top ten should be able to blow him away now. And he better stop calling the Klitschko bothers names..because they would knock him spark out in 3 rounds.
@yfytgfjhgkjhg You can say what you want but if The Bitchko sisters fought Toney, he would be the biggest name they ever fought. And he deserve a shot at them more than anyone in this world. He's an icon of many people all over the world
I agree on that. Toney is a big name and a very good fighter. But his time is up! actually it was up a few years ago. But i don`t really think he deserve a shot at the Klitschko brothers more than ANYONE in this world. NO WAY! Toney has not looked good in years. He lost to Samuel Peter twice in a row, thats a fighter Wladimir Klitschko actually beat TWICE. Toney has not faced anyone really good in years. And in this fight against Damon Reed (a C class heavyweight) He didn`t look good at all.
check out this press conference after Toneys 2nd round knock out of Greer.... " James Toney: "I just want to fight the best opposition out there!" " & Toney has really figured this heavyweight thing out, because he's handling 260 pounds now better than he was handling 237 pounds against Peter's in which fights he really should have won anyhow.
Good consistant effort from Toney, He's really moving well for 260 pounds and its natural for the body to have to acclamaite itself to heavier or lighter conditions. James in the last couple years for the first time in his life been consistantly this heavy and the more he fights and trains at heavier weights the easier it will become. Toney is doing as much as he can in this fight considering he's a counter PUNCHER WITH NO PUNCHES TO COUNTER! Toney needs to fight the best 4 it to be competitive
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 if Toney, Makes you look silly missing punches, punishes you with counter shots and talks to the crowd, that my friends is a Toney Victory, never mind the fact he's been pressing/ initiating the action in the heavyweight division.
Hmmm... it was nice to see Toney use some of his vintage skills in this fight like the slip and then counter uppercut that we havent seen in his last couple; but as someone who thinks he had the tools to be the GOAT in boxing this is hard to watch.
are these boxers or sumo wrestlers
Uprising771 1 month ago
It was a mistake to go down in cruiser. Only weightclass you can compete at 42 is heavy. Maybe shed a few pounds of fat and build a few pounds of muscle would be better. And we all saw what happened to RJJ after a dramatic weightloss.
TheBestBoxingGame 3 months ago
fat fuck... hope he beats lebedev though...old school champ don't let me down
madmak55 4 months ago
never seen toney so slim hahaha
ItsDatGirlJordz 4 months ago
White guy is the most boring fighter I've ever seen, he acts like hes a rookie not even throwing punches.
Executnr 6 months ago
wladimir and vitali are just LUCKY that they dont have to face james "the blob" toney. his belly would totally OWN their fists!
shellbsd23 6 months ago
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Toney is on his way back to cruiser weight as we speak after he defends his title and fights shamrock, to fight Tarver & possibly Hopkins.& the thing is that, his body has acclamted to training and fighting heavy consistantly, his bones ligaments and muscles all acclamated,you could tell in the Reed fight where he weighed 257 pounds, he moved as well as he did if not better than his firsts fights at 237. now he's dropping weight, he's going to be extremely, quick and powerful. Just Trouble
AKAMUSICkeepit100 7 months ago
damon reed sucks
TheMbrennan28 7 months ago
james toney funny as hell on the interviews
carlitoboxing 8 months ago
Slow Fat ass way past prime Toney...wake up, youre done!
YangShengVT 8 months ago
Whats the difference between 46 years old Bernard Hopkins & James Toney? Bernard doesnt eat everything he sees, as the fat pig Toney.
donshery 8 months ago
to be fair, Toney said for the longest time he would go over there and fight these guys and they ducked him.
AKAMUSICkeepit100 9 months ago
notice how Runnin reed backs up the whole fight and when Toney takes a step back to set a trap or change up the fight Reed acts like Toneys runnin. Runnin Reed won't throw a jab cause he knows if he does, he'll get in a fight.
AKAMUSICkeepit100 9 months ago
did james toney join team McDonalds with Tim sylvia for randy couture fight ?
Straaawberrycake 9 months ago in playlist James Lights Out Toney-Discriminated&Unappreciated=The Best
@QawiBraxton81 If you're on the street and you know jiu jitsu, you're telling me you're not going to use it?
Why? Why would you limit yourself for no reason? "This isn't in a sport environment, so I'm certainly not going to use my grappling ability to choke you unconscious and end the conflict!"
Seems pretty silly to me.
pearcemark2 9 months ago
@pearcemark2 Fuck off... Just fuck off... Im tired of this argument..."you cant box in a real street fight" ...I just want to slap your mom for raising a baboon.
BOXING. IS. A. COMBAT. SPORT. JUST. LIKE. JUDO.KARATE. TAEKWONDO. WRESTLING. JIU-JITSU...
It was never imagined as a form of real fighting. Its seen as a sport. It evolved around the glory of two men using their fists and power to beat eachother. Now it has evolved into the sweet science.
GTFO....
MortalSyntax 9 months ago
@MortalSyntax Why are you quoting and respond to something I never said? That's a little psycho. It's like me going:
"I love to kill and eat babies", WTF is wrong with you MortalSyntax, I should kick your mom in the tits for giving birth to a baby eater!!
pearcemark2 9 months ago
this is the worst toney has ever looked
kareemabdullah 9 months ago
Thanks for uploading...appreciate it.
London2ATL 9 months ago
@London2ATL Happy to do so. No one else seemed willing.
MortalSyntax 9 months ago
FAT ASS TONEY.........
jat52790 10 months ago
MMA is the real Deal guys. you want to beat a guy on the street then MMA not boxing.lol
dooooooer 11 months ago
@dooooooer True, but me and most other fans of boxers dont care aout street fighting. Its a fuckien sport.
MortalSyntax 11 months ago 8
@dooooooer Bullshit most just because toney who's over the hill lost doesn't mean all of boxing won. Just like when Ray Mercer was Knocking people out in MMA that didn't mean Boxing won, it was just one fighter and one secluded fight. It always matters whos doing the fighting. So skip on with that MMA is better bullshit. Boxing is golden, the sweet science, and if your timing is correct, you will put it to anybody who tries to harm you.
ItsJustUsEnt 10 months ago
@dooooooer lol im an mma fan but it isnt real fighting. i mean cmon. mma on the street? you cant possibly do the shit that jake shields and gsp pulled at ufc 129 and expect to win a fight.
ljitsu 10 months ago
@ljitsu i didnt say 100% real fight it is the closest thing to real fight..........well in real fight you have head Stomping and no gloves you have no cage etc etc stuff like that.
dooooooer 10 months ago
@dooooooer yeah i mean pride fc had stomping and stuff like that.
ljitsu 10 months ago
@ljitsu yup but in real fight you have no cage to hang your balance and the Ground is solid it will hurt.
dooooooer 10 months ago
@dooooooer pluss if you look at most pro and ammy cagefighters-they have some sort of boxing training
vanranken1 9 months ago
@dooooooer I'm in boxing and I have kicked some annoying idiots' ass on the street so boxing works too, believe me!! Cheers!! Besides as someone here just said very well, who cares about it? boxing is the best sport in the world!!
masterkid4u 8 months ago
@masterkid4u watch UFC 1 and UFC 2 thats all i have to say
dooooooer 8 months ago
@dooooooer Watch Mercer VS Sylvia and you'll see there's nothing written in fight sports
masterkid4u 8 months ago
@dooooooer with a good combination you can beat people in the streets too... you don't need MMA. And remember that a lot of boxers started fighting in the streets first. Mike Tyson, Roberto Duran, Sonny Liston and many others used to kick people's ass in the ring and out of the ring. You don't need MMA to do that.
carlitoboxing 8 months ago
@dooooooer not true at all, because a guy on the street could have a gun, and no form of self defense can protect you from that. Boxing and MMA give you an advantage in self defense but neither one can protect you from anything. It's stupid to say a boxer couldn't beat a guy on the street.
SPRINGS02 8 months ago
@dooooooer mma vs good boxer no chance.when wou want make take down you get knocked out.boxing is the alphpa and omega of fighting.example muhammad ali kills all mma fighters.boxing rulz.
MrKilluminati248 7 months ago
@MrKilluminati248 LOL @ ur comment. MMA will beat any boxer.
dooooooer 7 months ago
@dooooooer A novice MMA guy will lose to a Boxing veteran.
What MrKilluminati said is total bs.
MortalSyntax 7 months ago
@MrKilluminati248 pff.lol look at kimbo.he is shit.he cant box good he cant wrstle good.he has no kicks.but he still not bad in mma.boxers like roy jones would dominate mma easy with only boxing,good movement,good reflexes and good eyes.
MrKilluminati248 7 months ago
@MrKilluminati248 You cant just take one guy and compare him to the rest. The same would apply to Arthur Abraham.
If a experienced ground fighter gets a boxer to the ground he can beat him.
There are plenty of boxers who cant handle kicks as well and can be dropped in an instant.
MortalSyntax 7 months ago
@MortalSyntax arthur abraham is not a good boxer.he has not good boxing skills.and kicks are deadly against good boxers.so easy to conter a kick with a punch.kicks are easy to see.
MrKilluminati248 7 months ago
@MrKilluminati248
How can kicks be easy to see. You can faint with a jab and deliver a heavy kick to the head.
MortalSyntax 7 months ago
@MortalSyntax okay im a boxer.i fought kickboxers and they looked poor against me.their boxing is not that good and their kicks arent that good too.only low kicks were good.a taek wan doo fighter surely would make me much much more trouble.becouse they are the masters of kicking.
MrKilluminati248 7 months ago
@MrKilluminati248 dude i watch alot of k1 and tae kwon do fighters always do poor against pure kickboxers. their style focuses on speed and flashy movements and they are not used to getting hit by the more powerful kickboxers. hell even joe rogan who was a tae kwon do champion said it was completely useless against most strikers besides other tae kwon do artist.
AsHeS2SweLL 6 months ago
@AsHeS2SweLL what i mean is.tak wan doo fighters allways can surprise me.in k1 i dont know so many tak wan doe fighters.only one.the turkish samurai.he has the best kicks.kickboxers allways lost against me in sparring.when they kicked me i blocked and countered hard many times they lost balance anf fall down.you know they are not master of kicking and they are not master in boxing.they are like a middle thing.but thats my experience.and not all boxers are the same.boxers with bad movement suck
MrKilluminati248 6 months ago
Toney is shit...and you yanks call the Klichkos and Haye names.... James the fat man Toney is all you've got to offer :)
TheNetHasEyes1 11 months ago
@TheNetHasEyes1 Wtf ?
MortalSyntax 11 months ago
@MortalSyntax I said most people from the US call Haye and Klitchko rubbish... and when you say things like this look at James the Joke Toney... No one will give him a shot as hes not worhty of licking Hayes or Klithckos boots.. He's a BUM
TheNetHasEyes1 11 months ago
basic arm triangle defence learn it
sumoshinobi 11 months ago
wow this is a sell out crowd toney should retire he looks stupid,slow,fat the list goes on
TerryMMA85 11 months ago
@TerryMMA85 Get your ass back to gay porn (mma) videos u garbage.
Lacqueras 11 months ago
@Lacqueras you are a clown. Mma is going to be the greatest sport in the world and there is nothing you can do about it. If you think marines are gay also who train in jiu jitsu and muay thai you are just a dumb ass.
lilsm555 11 months ago
@lilsm555 And you get banned... Mma will never come close to what Boxing has achieved.
MortalSyntax 11 months ago
@MortalSyntax MMA is the closest thing to a real fight boxing in the other hand is fake and only applies for sport.
dooooooer 11 months ago
@dooooooer mma is real fighting? lmaooooo. im a fan and i wrestle, box, and do jiu jitsu. i really like mma honestly. but i have to say i dont think its real fighting. its sport. did you see ufc 129? the shit jake and george pulled isnt real fighting. a real fight wouldve ended much quicker.
ljitsu 10 months ago
@lilsm555 Keep your ass in gay porn mma videos. You are not welcome here
Lights777Out 11 months ago
@Lights777Out haha you must be in the closet or something because the military finds it as effective training
lilsm555 11 months ago
@lilsm555 Fuck! I thought i had blocked you. ! Military combat is one thing. A sport is another. Boxing has a more solid foundation and a greater history.
MortalSyntax 11 months ago
@Lacqueras why MMA is gay porn? could you clarify it. in detail please.
dooooooer 11 months ago
8:24 "He's a legend" TOTALY AGREE
Lacqueras 11 months ago 13
@Lacqueras yep! and nows he down to 213 POUNDS Lean and still mean lol....and strong he deadlifted 615 lbs!
LVSWTZ 6 months ago
@LVSWTZ 213 plus 70 is more like it
djk28161 5 months ago
@djk28161 NOT IN THIS FIGHT SILLY LOL! After this fight he has lost around 50 pounds FOR REAL! He's getting ready for his cruiserweight fight in november vS Denis Lebedev Nov 4
LVSWTZ 5 months ago
The guy Toney was fighting is a joke......any real boxer would use the jab against Toney to get in. When it was near the end of the fight, you can easily see how drained Toney was and how weak his punches were getting....
If I were the other guy, I would of just let loose since it appears to me that Toney wasn't conditioned enough to throw a basic 3 hit combo and couldn't go toe to toe with him.
Toney was great back in the day, but he should of quit a loooooooong time ago
conrifor 11 months ago
Toney is just a shadow of what he once was, major decline of skills and stamina, it`s painful to watch him now. Anybody in the top ten should be able to blow him away now. And he better stop calling the Klitschko bothers names..because they would knock him spark out in 3 rounds.
yfytgfjhgkjhg 11 months ago
@yfytgfjhgkjhg You can say what you want but if The Bitchko sisters fought Toney, he would be the biggest name they ever fought. And he deserve a shot at them more than anyone in this world. He's an icon of many people all over the world
Lacqueras 11 months ago
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yfytgfjhgkjhg 11 months ago
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I agree on that. Toney is a big name and a very good fighter. But his time is up! actually it was up a few years ago. But i don`t really think he deserve a shot at the Klitschko brothers more than ANYONE in this world. NO WAY! Toney has not looked good in years. He lost to Samuel Peter twice in a row, thats a fighter Wladimir Klitschko actually beat TWICE. Toney has not faced anyone really good in years. And in this fight against Damon Reed (a C class heavyweight) He didn`t look good at all.
yfytgfjhgkjhg 11 months ago
lol the announcer at the end needs a haircut
chillyayo09 11 months ago
check out this press conference after Toneys 2nd round knock out of Greer.... " James Toney: "I just want to fight the best opposition out there!" " & Toney has really figured this heavyweight thing out, because he's handling 260 pounds now better than he was handling 237 pounds against Peter's in which fights he really should have won anyhow.
AKAMUSICkeepit100 11 months ago
Good consistant effort from Toney, He's really moving well for 260 pounds and its natural for the body to have to acclamaite itself to heavier or lighter conditions. James in the last couple years for the first time in his life been consistantly this heavy and the more he fights and trains at heavier weights the easier it will become. Toney is doing as much as he can in this fight considering he's a counter PUNCHER WITH NO PUNCHES TO COUNTER! Toney needs to fight the best 4 it to be competitive
AKAMUSICkeepit100 11 months ago
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 if Toney, Makes you look silly missing punches, punishes you with counter shots and talks to the crowd, that my friends is a Toney Victory, never mind the fact he's been pressing/ initiating the action in the heavyweight division.
AKAMUSICkeepit100 11 months ago
david gay, lol
maskedmillionaire 11 months ago
Retire Toney
TheEnforcer754 11 months ago
I wonder if Toney fought the Bitchko sisters, would he get in shape?
Lacqueras 11 months ago
Hmmm... it was nice to see Toney use some of his vintage skills in this fight like the slip and then counter uppercut that we havent seen in his last couple; but as someone who thinks he had the tools to be the GOAT in boxing this is hard to watch.
loco4gogo1 11 months ago 3