You mock Olberman for acting like that, but when right wing commentators act the same way or worse, you're like precious little lap dogs. That's where you loose most credibility in case you haven't figured that out. "The media is brainwashing everyone!" you say..... then you go home and watch FOX.
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@joshuancts No, the progressive agenda of involving government where it doesn't belong is why we're in the disaster we are in. Government is not the solution, it stifles the solution.
@Fallout3Follower Really we went threw 8 years of Bush's progressive agenda? How about the Judges that approved "citizens united " all conservatives. Our democracy was handed over to corporations.
@RetSquid: they should submit any statements on politics to the popular rerendum of their members. No political contributions not expresssly authorised by their members should be allowed. I'd, frankly, treat using union dues for political activity as a crime. It is tyranny to force people to support a politics they despise. Unions are run like the old Soviet politboro, frankly.
I basically agree with you, "Joshuancts" wanted to ban corporations (groups of people) from speaking, but he didn't think about unions being corporations.
@RetSquid: I suppose I should start reading the through the whole discussions of other posters, but that can get so tedious. I took you for some union flack engaging in hysterical exageration of any efforts to restrict the abuses of union gangsterism. Members have a right to bar unions from using their dues for anything beyond collective bargaining, but the unions & their stooges in the Dem. Party fight any efforts to inform union members of their rights.
@521f -Heh, Yeah, 'cause Youtube counts are REAL important, amirite? How'dya like Tuesday, asshat? Can you eat that snark? Does it taste good? Tell you what-YOU WIN THE INTARWEBZ! YOU ARE LIKE SUPERCOOL! Now go and play while the adults get the state back together.
@77shard I can't say I care too much about tuesday, because A) I live in Canada(a superior nation with lower debt, public healthcare, lower crime rates and higher standards of living than yours) and B) the Republicans can't legislate effectively without control of the senate and the threat of presidential vetoes...By the way, there's a dead possum out on the road, I suggest you fry it up for dinner you hillbilly scum! Keep trying hard to learn proper English!
@521f Nope, little troll, sore loser, WINNER OF THE UTUBZ, you know niothihng of me and xcan't even field a decent guess suck on your hatred foolio y'all LOST HAHAHAHAHAHAHA byebye now asshat keep crying
@KittenButter Well that would be easy if the left wing agreed to actually have a debate. When was the last time Olbermann had a conservative or libertarian on his show? O'Reilly leaves open invitations to his opposition.
Has PJTV ever invited a Leftist onto any of their shows? Leftists engage in debates all the time, e.g. Noam Chomsky debated Richard Perle. Among other examples.
@KittenButter I can name drop too. Since we're talking about youtube channels, how about the young turks. Let's not make it about someone else though. Let's make it about us. I'm always around for a good conversation.
@KittenButter Again, let's not make it about some random channel. As a statist (only assuming), what do you support? Do you like Keith Olbermann? If so, why?
I'm not particularly interested in getting into a YouTube debate. But if you want to know what my ideology is, this might be helpful: wisegeek.com/what-is-democratic-socialism.htm
@KittenButter Interesting. I'd never heard of this. We'd have to scrap the constitution so I'll have to disagree. At least I learned something new today.
Maddow doesn't really agree with Olbermann, she's just biding her time until the inevitable brain haemorrage arrives from Keith's restless legs and revelations about him impersonating an ivy league alum. Doctor Professor Maddow can then pander to the affirmative action wing and the lowest common denominators who've just had their eyes opened by professors...
that's funny, because Keith Olberman never interviews anybody of the opposition because he's too chicken shit! He knows he'll lose. Can you picture him going up against AlfonZo Rachel.
@RavishingApparition He would never interview Zo because then he couldn't just claim raicism when he disagrees with obumble. Maybe someone should point out to the liberal idiots that Obama had about 30% more people approving of him when he started out, so for their theory that you only dislike him if you are racist was true, it would mean that 30% of the US just realized he was black.
@RavishingApparition I totally agree I would LITERALLY pay money to see Zo go up against any mainstream liberal, and I'm not even really on either side
@lancaster4314 And let me guess.... you have Glenn Beck's dick up your ass, right? You probably also have Sean Hannity's ball sack on your lips, and Bill O'Reilly's brown eye in your mouth.
@ultimatetalesfan19 You're trying to redefine things here. Fascism has always been a far-right ideology, while communism was far-left. The only thing they had in common, was the totalitarian nature of the system; the political goals were diametrically opposed. Hitler and Moussolini both destroyed the early communist and socialist movements in Germany/Italy in the early years of WW2. Same thing with Franco in Spain. That's why in Europe, all anti-fascist movements are traditionally left-wing.
how is fascism a far right ideology? Complete and total anarchy is the far right.
How is supporting corporations a right wing or left wing idea?
Hitler destroyed the communists because they threaten Nazi Germany, because Communists only saw National Socialism as the first step, while Hitler wanted it to be the last step.
Anti fascist groups are a bunch of idiots like the traditional hippies who don't have a clue what they are talking about, they are self haters destroying Europe, nothing more
@leungchaan "has always been" is usually the rallying cry of the brainwashed. Read the Nazi program. Among it's gems are nationalized healthcare, the government take over of corporations, the restriction of wartime profits, a minimum wage, government controlled affordable housing, and many other left wing dreams.
Granted, the right is harsher on immigration, as germans were, but that was a small part of their program. (Right is also more pro-Jew/Israel).
So what? Hitler was also a vegetarian. Are all vegetarians therefore fascists? HeH also built the first highways in Europe. So are you also against highways? Your argumentation is pretty lame. And you know exactly why the religious Right Wing is supporting Israel. Hint: It's not, because they like Jews.
@leungchaan Who defended Israel for the boat incident recently? It was FoxNews. Want to claim they are Left Wing? Sorry, it's the Right that supports Israel.
And yes, Hitler was a vegetarian and supporter of animal rights...both left wing causes. And yes, he was all about government building infrastructure...another left wing cause. My argument is simple: Hitler was more left wing than right wing. I don't think that means much, but it is historical fact.
@ultimatetalesfan19 Your so funny I forgot to laugh,you are so unintelligent about politics my friend you are mislead by those right wing nut jobs on fox news.I'm a Democrat and care about the poor,earth,and the education of America.All the Republicants in D.C. care about killing innocent solders in Iraq for oil,But they blame us Democrats for being baby killers because of abortion,Hypocrisy at it's finest by the right.
Fox News is far to the left of me idiot and has been for quite a while.
I was a Conservative since I knew what politics was even about, and I watched Fox AND MSNBC every day with my grandmother(who was brought up as a Liberal Democrat that became a Neo Con), and after college Conservatism wasn't good enough for me because I was convinced that it isn't enough to reverse the damage that is clearly on display in those "institutions of learning''.
Fox will die when a real right wing network shows up, and fortunately so will all the left medias as well.
If you take the spotlight off the Conservatives then they will win, and if you then take away the spotlight from Conservatives then the real far right will win
@cubbs357 If i had to base history on liberal comments like yours i would think that the usa was founded 10 years ago and there's only been two presidents.
@cubbs357 ok u awful jack ass thats right how dare we send soldiers who signed up for the military and knew there was a chance of going to iraq who were trained by the greatest millitary in the world supplied with guns gear and an abundance of technology but then have the balls to be upset about innocent defensless unborn children being MURDERED!! anyway u just keep watching the masters of ur opinion on msnbc come back here make another dumb comment and ill be glad to make ya feel stupid again
@irish4272 Listen smart one I had family fight in every war there was ok.There was no chance of us going to Iraq every American know's that for a fact.Bush sent us to Iraq for no reason and darnit I'm a true American I love my Country the USA.You can't make feel stupid you know the truth hurts.
@leungchaan Yeah Israel has the right to defend itself against people mortaring them. Its like if Mexico started bombing the USA, we would surely protect ourself
Capitalism IS fascism. Today's conservatives are quite different from yesterday's...they are a big part of the problem, they toe the Fascist status quo.
Now that's just silly. Economic Facism entails government control over and direction of the economy. Only in Capitalism do the people truly own the means of production. Facism allows the people to keep the means of production, but makes demands on what they will produce and how. As such, conservatives seeking to uphold private enterprise are not facist. So-called "Progressives" that seek greater govt management of the economy are the Economic Facists.
uh... right ao arguing for the free market restoring peoples liberties to live freely, etc that's fascism? i think you need to go pick up a dictionary
If only you'd aim your satire at the *real* villains, like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter, et al. Oh, wait, I forgot: you *aspire* to their lowest common denominator. You're a waste of talent, attacking our *true* patriots. Isn't their a law against traitors disguised as comedians?
@pewterbot9 Wow, I'm glad people like you belong to the minority in America (just look at olberman's ratings, what a joke). Yeah, let's round up everyone who says something we don't agree with and charge them with treason. Oh wait, wasn't this country, I dont know, created by just such treasonous people, who lost everything to create the free country we now live in? Good work fighting against what our ancestors died for. You can have fun in Nazi Germany under your Liberal Führer.
Free country? Hardly. What a joke to call this nation "free"...hatred abounds in many forms: racism, homophobia, elitism, glorified slave labor, etc. Why would I have fun in Nazi Germany, when I'm already not having fun in Nazi Amerikkka? You yourself are a typical Amerikkan patriot: brainwashed, violent, dumbass piece of shit. Yay, you go Amerikkka, yay, what an excellent country. NOT.
Let's refute these shall we. Racism and elitism both portrayed by the liberals of this country or "our *true* patriots" as you called them. Homophobia, something Liberals scream everytime we say we don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle, no fear involved so therefore not existant. Glorified slave labor, you're probably talking about low wages for illegal immigrants. Do people who break our laws deserve to be paid the same as law abiding citizens? I dont think so.
Homosexual is *not* a lifestyle, it is how God made us. Glorified slave labor: working full or part time to make some fat cat rich, and you don't even get health insurance. Minimum wage instead of living wage...how vulgar. Lose your job, go homeless. You don't even need to include illegal workers in the equation. I could go on, but I see no point in arguing with a dumbsh*t. Intelligence is not your cup of tea, obviously.
I didn't say lifestyle choice. I agree homosexuality isn't always a choice. I work a minimum wage job working full time and I accepted that when I was hired If I didn't like the pay I didn't have to take the job. And I did get health benefits, very good ones at that. Then the UFCW Union started crying and sueing the company and cuts had to be made. First went corporate wages, then hour quota to qualify for benefits, then store level manager cuts of 10%, 2% everyone else.
I disagree. Alot of women claim to be homosexual simply because they dislike the fact that many men are for the most part shallow and crave beauty. Not all homosexuals are gay by nature
I can't blame women for that...many men are also VIOLENT. It's the machismo, stupid...which also leads to breeding unwanted children, who become criminals, not to mention homophobes like you. ALL homosexuals are homosexual (gay) by nature. Likewise, it is all too obvious that you are ignorant by nature...ergo: heterosexual. For gays are also SMARTER than breeders, by nature. It's been scientfically proven.
I don't blame some women for hating men. But not all men are like that, you described men with basically no moral substance, and yeah there are alot of them. Now could you please stop calling me a homophobe? Or at least show me some evidence, based on what i've said, that I fear or dislike gay people. Now if I were to say Straights are smarter than gays liberals would scream homophobe at the top of their lungs, why can you do the opposite? Just because you say its proven doesn't make it true.
{{ Just because you say its proven doesn't make it true. }}
The fact is: heterocentrism is a brute force the oppresses women and non-heteros, including with extreme threats, violence and murder. It is the most universal of all hatreds, since most other oppressed minorities--regardless of their own marginilization by the majority--remain virulently homophobic even unto their own people.
Yes that is what 'heterocentrism' is, but not what heterosexuality is. As much could be said for Homocentrism. The reason there are more heteros than homos is because of nature. Now maybe Homosexuality is an evolution of sorts and they are the next greatest link in human evolution, but unless they find a way to reproduce...
Bonobos chimpanzees are a highly homosexualized species...and closest to humans on the evolutionary tree. They have no problem reproducing regardless of their non-heterosexual milieu. Various methods of non-hetero reproduction are now available to humanity...and will continue to improve, to the point where no woman would ever care to put her body through such an ordeal. In fact, gross overpopulation will soon lead to required license to breed, as there already is to adopt.
They don't reproduce with other males and they don't grow babies in jars. They reproduce through natural means. I doubt everybody is going to jump on the 'grow your baby in a jar' train. And the lincense to breed will only happen in the US once the Constitution is completely thrown out, in which case, I will be gone. China regulates its populations breeding, the US ont intrude on something so private. Adoption is different it isn't your child and you must be confirmed as responsible first.
Amerika thinks nothing of invading the bedrooms of gays. What goes around, comes around. No one has any right whatsoever, to bring unwanted children into this world. Rampant breeding is a sign of ignorance and insanity. Heteros are vulgar, filthy, and arrogant. Like you.
So you want the government to decide who can have children. I bet Hitler wished he'd thought of that (maybe he did, that is one fact I am ignorant of) He could just make it so all the jews were legally prohibited from breeding. The Jewish race would become extinct in a few generations. People think these policies are good but it only takes one bad man to turn use them for evil. Like the wire taps of the Patriot Act, Bush was using them for good reasons, but if an evil man were to use them...
If people can't run their own lives responsibly, and continue to breed unwanted children like rabbits, then YES I want gov't--whatever gov't--to decide who can have children. We're killing ourselves and this planet with heterosexist dogma that mandates everyone to breed...and those who don't get persecuted a.k.a. "homosexuals". The vast majority of heteros act like ignorant and violent pigs, breeding more of the same into existence, w/o restraint. Much like Nazis w/o restraint. That's evil!
Let's pretend the false premise you are arguing, over population, is a problem. Heterosexist dogma? You mean the law of nature that makes propagation of a species a priority. And humans can resist that natural inclination and who says every heterosexual person has a child?Tell me just how homosexuals get "persecuted" in america. They are only denied the title of 'married' and they are denied that because of the dictionary.
Homosexuality is likewise a law of nature. Gays are severely persecuted in the USA...there is barely a spot on our grand map, where we can't safely be ourselves in public. We are threatened w/violence and virulently assaulted on the airwaves and other public places, by religious zealots...many of whom run the gov't. Many are bashed, some even murdered. You are a typical homophobic, feigning ignorance of our plight, dumping your own evil nature at our feet. A pile of shit is more worthy then you.
Once again, you provide no facts, nothing of any significance accept your word and you just call me names. A few months ago a group of gay kids came through my work place openly showing themselves as what they were, no one got angry at them, no one hurt them, no one assaulted them in any way, shape, or form. We talked with them just as we would any other human beings. My mother's cousin is gay, he is a very nice guy and fun to be around, I don't dislike him in anyway. Stop being childish.
Stop being a liar. For one: you very limited experience does not reflect society at large. You choose to remain stick-ignorant about the plight of gays in America. I doubt you've *ever* read one gay news source in your entire, pathetic hetero life.
You can see the *real* attitude of the U.S. when
gays are murdered outright by the hundreds in Iraq,
What have I lied about? "gay news scource" Why should gay news be any different then straight news? Hitler killed the gays, no straights tried to cover that up. "plight of gays in America" And you provide an example in Iraq? Tell me, since I don't read "gay news scources", how did US action in Iraq force a Homophobic Holocaust in Iraq. Correct me if I'm wrong wasn't Hussein killing thousands upon thousands of his own people before we came in? I'm sure plenty of them were gay.
cont... The reason I do not believe you on this particular subject, is because you have outright claimed me to be homophobic, when I have never said a single thing that shows any hatred for gays, because I see them as people first and I judge people based on their character, not their sexual orientation, skin color, or other physical features. If you can call me a homophobe with no evidence other than my lack of being gay, why should I believe anything you say?
The evidence lies in your pathetic responses. You feign gay friendliness, but your remarks show otherwise. Were you a true ally of gays, you wouldn't wait for me to post you some gay news links, right? When it's sooooo easy to search for them yourself. You remain wilfully ignorant, excusing yourself by a blanket statement re. hetero vs. homo news...which is also a *false* statement.
What remarks show me to not be freindly to gays? The rest of your response doesn't make much sense to me... You are the one who brought up gay news. What is the difference? I simply asked for your source when you said gays were being killed in Iraq because of the US. That's a pretty bold statement. I see that Islamists in Iraq are killing gays yeah, but that has nothing to do with the US unless you are saying th US is a force of Islam and most people would laugh at that statement.
wait so people who don't breed are being persecuted? since when? pretty sure that my girlfriend and i aren't going to be reproducing any time soon. and surprisingly enough we have yet to be persecuted because of that
you're really not helping. in fact i do believe you just proved his point. he is a gay fanatic. and just like any other fanatic he will refuse to listen to any logic that may refute his claim
where the hell do you live that people are treating gay people that badly. i live in a place where there is a large population of homosexuals (men and women) as well as a large population of Catholics. now whenever the homosexuals have a public gathering the Catholics are never far behind but all in all even though the two believe different things they are still civil to each other. there are of course the outliers like yourself for example who get irate when anyone has a different view than you
Sometimes it is. Like in jail. I think that a lot of them might choose a woman if that choice were provided. Of course you could argue that it was their latent homosexual urges that caused them to choose a life of crime, and that they didn't choose those latent urges...
{{ you could argue that it was their latent homosexual urges }}
Your reasoned reply is most appreciated. Most people are born bisexual; it is only the oppression of a heterocentric regime that coerces most everyone to play things "straight". I therefore conclude that homosexuality is *not* a minority issue...it is a majority issue of endemic hypocrisy. Using gays as an example of what will happen to anyone else who does not toe the line of whatever Big Brother demands.
I don't get a hard on from gay porn, where as pictures of naked women make me horny. I'm a guy.
I don't know what else to say. I don't think that "society" has the power to over ride evolution and instinct. But I do think that nature does process that gene just to keep the herd a little thinner, and that's ok.
{{ I don't get a hard on from gay porn, where as pictures of naked women make me horny. I'm a guy. }}
I'm a guy, too. Being a "guy" does not by nature make you heterosexual. What you mean is "I'm a heterosexual guy"...please don't usurp the word "guy", "male" (and so on) as an intrinsic word for heterosexual.
So you're saying hetero people are only hetero because of social norms? Or big government? I disagree with both. Nature makes us hetero, because like every other species on earth, propagation of your species is written in your DNA. That is why sex feels good, so that even Humans who have evolved away from following natural inclinations, are still prone to propagation of their species.
cont... The company had to file chapter 11 bankruptcy and now our product sucks because we have bad credit, though we are coming out of chapter 11 soon. All because the workers wouldn't unionize and the corporate "fat cats" wouldn't force us to against our will. there shouldn't even be a minimum wage, it robs me of what i'm worth to the company. Thank you for calling me names, it really proves your point. Name calling really holds up well against facts and personal experiences.
"Homosexual is *not* a lifestyle, it is how God made us." This leads me to believe you are gay, yes? Let me tell you right now I do not dislike you or fear you because of that. I disagree with your political opinion obviously, but hate you cause you're gay, no. Yet, I am one of the people who gets called a homophobe for these opinions I put forward, can you see where I'm coming from? Being called something you're not based on a difference of opinion.
Maybe yes, maybe no. Any intelligent and compassionate heterosexual is quite capable of making such an informed statement. You don't need to be gay to stand up for gays. You don't need to be black to stand up for blacks. You don't need to be Jewish to stand up for Jews.
"Homosexual is *not* a lifestyle, it is how God made us."
I wasn't implying you had to be gay to defend gays. I'm not gay, I defend gays when they are attacked. I was talking about your use of the word "us" when you said homosexual is how god made us. Us includes you, and you were talking about homosexuals. Therefore, I concluded you were gay. I added the "yes?" Because I couldn't be sure and you could correct me if I was wrong about that.
cont... And unless you are suggesting I have brainwashed myself by researching history and applying morality to my life, your "brainwashed" accusation is incorrect. "Violent"? What have I said that is remotely violent? That one doesn't even warrant a real response. "Dumbass piece of shit", unless you actually believe I am human excriment with a brain to give the possibility for me to be dumb or otherwise, I'd say that one doesn't warrant a response either.
Cont... The reason I said have fun in Nazi Germany is because Nazi Germany is the Liberal paradise execept for the Nationalism. Hitler and the nazi's pushed for all the same things as Liberals, gun control, public education, universal healthcare, etc. Only Liberals believe those things are good, Nazi's wanted them for complete control of the public. I don't think Obama or any Liberals share hitler's motivation, but they are unintentionally setting us for the first dictator to take control.
Republicans are Nazis. Period. They are traitors, anti-American, and totally for raping the environment, licking the asses of powerful corporations. 8 years of a GOP president has virtually destroyed our once-great democracy. You're a goon, a grunt, a sweat-hog for these Nazis and Fascists. Also: ignorant as a stick.
What similarities are there between Nazi's and Conservatives besides love for one's country? The Nazi's are socialist, Conservatives are capitalist. Hitler said he agreed with the communist ideology on almost everything. So I point out these things and your response is to make a statement with no supporting evidence? No wonder you like olbermann. Bush was wrong on some things mainly his spending, but he did keep the Republic safe, which is the Federal Government's one real job.
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out"
"They" meaning Nazis, of course.
Bush was wrong on *everything*...he's a puppet for evil. I'm sure you never tire of licking his Aryan rectum. Today's conservatives a.k.a. "neocons" have no love for their country...they have no love at all. Just hatred. They are out to destrou Amerikkka, and then the world.
Fascism will come to America draped in a flag and waving a cross.
Hitler agreed with the Socialist, totalitarian ways of communism. The reason he hated Communists was because they threatened his own design of Nazism. Communsim was rising in the East as a powerful force and was begining to become a Global threat. If the Communists took over, where would that leave the Nazis? That is why he hated them. Yes, cutting taxes and government spending is going to destroy our country. Just like Rome...oh wait. That's what Rome didn't do just before it fell.
Either you're very confused MrCBRIDD, or you're lying through your teeth...and I believe it's the latter. Socialism is neither totalitarian nor communistic. Democracy, should it keep its promise of liberty for all, will incorporate socialist programs to meet the basic needs of all citizens...such as universal health care, free quality education right through college, living wage, and guaranteed decent housing regardless of income or lack thereof. Otherwise, only the wealthy can pursue happiness.
Yes, because Bill Gates started out wealthy, as well as every other successful businessman, they all started out wealthy. Socialism isn't totalitarian, but its a common tool used by Totalitarian Regimes to take away the freedoms of the public. And it walks hand in hand with communism, you know where 'everybody owns everything'. And guess what else? The US isn't a Democracy, its a Republic. You want to know why? Refer to Thomas Jefferson.
You would deny non-wealthy citizens health care, decent housing, quality education? How monstrous, how UNamerican. You must be very pleased to learn of the Texas education board's recent decision to remove any mention of Jefferson in the history books, elimination word "democracy" in describing the USA's government, and in the exclusion of the theory of evolution from all science books and classes.
Who said I would deny anything? I would allow the poor to make something of themselves by not keeping them dependant on socialized wealthfare. Why would I be pleased about that decision? Jefferson is one of my favorite Founders. And post a link to the totally biased article you gleaned this little piece of evidence from and I'll make my own judgements on the matter, but for know I'm calling your statement a load of bull.
@MrCBRIDD Thomas Jefferson? Oh, you mean the white guy who wrote the Declaration Of Independence, and saying that we all had rights, but then turned around and owned slaves???? That guy? Yeah, he's a GREAT ROLE MODEL.......LOL
Yes I mean Thomas Jefferson who replaced John lockes 'property' with 'pursuit of happiness' so that slavery would not be protected under the Constitution. Yes, I mean Jefferson who on two seperate occassions tried to legislate the emancipation of slaves. Yes I'd say he is a great role model.
@August25QDJ Jefferson's original drafts contained emancipation for slaves. The southern states would not go along. And CBRIDD is correct, Jefferson replaced the "property" with "pursuit of hapiness" Jefferson abhored slavery. He was the true patriot and lover of liberty among the bunch.
Cont... Note that I am talking about the Roman Republic not the Empire.
"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced. If the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt, people must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 BC
In short, liberals destroyed the last nation where the public and government were one.
@MrCBRIDD You are indeed a dufus. Debt has always increased vastly under a Republican Pres.'s watch, and decreased under a Democrat. Most recent examples: Bush Jr. created our present disaster with trillions in debt (which Obama inherited)...and Clinton gave us a surplu
Ah yes and Obama is fixing this by...spending even more? No idiot could ever believe that would work. Yes Bush spent too much, I cannot speak for Clinton because I was a child then. A budget Surplus is different then debt however. I didnt pay very much attention to Bush's Presidency either you know what with being distracted by teenage things like school and girls. From what I hear, Bush inherited a recession also. And our current economic problems occurred AFTER the Dems took Congress.
@MrCBRIDD You didn'tpay much attention to Bush's presidency? Worst cop-out ever. Then how can you make any intelligent analysis of Obama's presidency? The answer: you can't. Yet you insist on bashing Democrats, w/o understanding where all this horrible debt comes from. You are pathetically *clueless*, too brain-dead to study recent history. News flash: you're *still* a child, mentally. Typical hetero clone. Doesn't even know what he's talking about.
The debt came from spending more than the government takes in, its as simple that. I can tell you our debt would be significantly smaller if it werent for Liberal entitlement programs like social sercurity and medicare, which sap a huge amount of tax revenue. The fault lies with big federal government and our crappy tax code. You call me a "child" and yet you can't stop name-calling and making baseless accusations. Sounds like an angry child to me.
Let me tell you the difference between a budget surplus and debt, because they aren't opposites. Clinton's budget was what Congress allowed him to spend, he spent less. Just like Obama has a budget, if he spends less, there will be a "budget surplus" but what he did spend will be added to the debt. this means, simply, less debt than was deemed acceptable.
worst cop out ever? He kept the country afloat durring the biggest tradgedies since pearl harbor and the san francisco quake. he didn't turn the budget into something that could never be turned around. Obama has spent more than he did 7 times over. and Bush had to deal with the two aforementioned tragedies. and by the way, it's awesome that you showed how immature you are by going for a personal attack asap instead of putting up facts to back your argument. at least i waited
Can you point me to a reputable source showing Obama's expenditures compared to Bush's? Preferable something broken down including war time expenditures and showing revenue sources. It's important to see how much is being paid for with taxes vs what is pure debt.
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"That's clearly a photoshopped picture..."
Looks like Hasbro's Li'l Editor Edit Suite is a clear hit at the Johnson Junior High Junior Republicans meeting.
billo321 4 months ago
"That's clearly a photoshopped picture..."
Looks like Hasbro's Li'l Editor Edit Suite is a clear hit at the Johnson Junior High Junior Republicans meeting.
billo321 4 months ago
He should do one of Chris Matthews jacking off when hearing an Obama speech!
newalm 4 months ago
Well.... at least now we know who Maddow really is under her "girl suit" Nice one
SgtKUSMC 7 months ago
You mock Olberman for acting like that, but when right wing commentators act the same way or worse, you're like precious little lap dogs. That's where you loose most credibility in case you haven't figured that out. "The media is brainwashing everyone!" you say..... then you go home and watch FOX.
vylet271 7 months ago
If Keith Olbermann actually talked like this, I would watch him.
furryapolgetics 7 months ago
So good. LMAO!
lashkaretoiba 8 months ago
You nailed him Steven!!!
TheSethHazen 8 months ago
Crowder as Maddow turned me on.
TedT1478 10 months ago
awesome
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np001 11 months ago
The conservative path has led us to the disaster we are in today. When will you people wake up!!
joshuancts 11 months ago
@joshuancts No, the progressive agenda of involving government where it doesn't belong is why we're in the disaster we are in. Government is not the solution, it stifles the solution.
Fallout3Follower 11 months ago 2
@Fallout3Follower Really we went threw 8 years of Bush's progressive agenda? How about the Judges that approved "citizens united " all conservatives. Our democracy was handed over to corporations.
joshuancts 11 months ago
@joshuancts Wait, so Bush was a progressive AND he gave our democracy to corporation, that seems like an oxymoron.
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np001 11 months ago
@joshuancts
So we should ban Unions from making any political statements or supporting candidates?
RetSquid 8 months ago
@RetSquid: they should submit any statements on politics to the popular rerendum of their members. No political contributions not expresssly authorised by their members should be allowed. I'd, frankly, treat using union dues for political activity as a crime. It is tyranny to force people to support a politics they despise. Unions are run like the old Soviet politboro, frankly.
VictorLepanto 6 months ago
@VictorLepanto
I basically agree with you, "Joshuancts" wanted to ban corporations (groups of people) from speaking, but he didn't think about unions being corporations.
RetSquid 6 months ago
@RetSquid: I suppose I should start reading the through the whole discussions of other posters, but that can get so tedious. I took you for some union flack engaging in hysterical exageration of any efforts to restrict the abuses of union gangsterism. Members have a right to bar unions from using their dues for anything beyond collective bargaining, but the unions & their stooges in the Dem. Party fight any efforts to inform union members of their rights.
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np001 11 months ago
100 people don't wear power suits!
bennierave11 11 months ago
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np001 11 months ago
Perfect! You have KO'ed him exactly. Good job on Racheal also.
BriarsandBrambles 1 year ago
Thumbs up if you actually want to physically end Keith Oberfuhrer's life.....
yourass117 1 year ago
@yourass117 Lol!
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np001 11 months ago
LOL WIN!
paradym123 1 year ago
LMAO!!!! this is exactly what would happen
skoz14 1 year ago
Hilarious!!
mikedd56 1 year ago
LMAO! Classic!! Olberman is a douchebag of the highest order!
flyboymd82 1 year ago 2
Lol " What is this VINEGAR?!"
theaznfishy 1 year ago 2
Ha ha I like this one too Steven!
IamThePeople1 1 year ago
Wow, 77Shard, you realy ARE pathetic. You answer like you're 2 years old -.-
mocrazzz 1 year ago
lmao @ rachel maddow
docj09 1 year ago
nice view count you stupid conserverative shithead, only 19000? Pathetic lol.
521f 1 year ago
@521f -Heh, Yeah, 'cause Youtube counts are REAL important, amirite? How'dya like Tuesday, asshat? Can you eat that snark? Does it taste good? Tell you what-YOU WIN THE INTARWEBZ! YOU ARE LIKE SUPERCOOL! Now go and play while the adults get the state back together.
77shard 1 year ago
@77shard I can't say I care too much about tuesday, because A) I live in Canada(a superior nation with lower debt, public healthcare, lower crime rates and higher standards of living than yours) and B) the Republicans can't legislate effectively without control of the senate and the threat of presidential vetoes...By the way, there's a dead possum out on the road, I suggest you fry it up for dinner you hillbilly scum! Keep trying hard to learn proper English!
521f 1 year ago
@521f Nope, little troll, sore loser, WINNER OF THE UTUBZ, you know niothihng of me and xcan't even field a decent guess suck on your hatred foolio y'all LOST HAHAHAHAHAHAHA byebye now asshat keep crying
77shard 1 year ago
How cowardly to pretend to be your own opposition. I dare PJTV to interview someone who disagrees with them.
KittenButter 1 year ago
@KittenButter Well that would be easy if the left wing agreed to actually have a debate. When was the last time Olbermann had a conservative or libertarian on his show? O'Reilly leaves open invitations to his opposition.
los314 1 year ago
@los314
Has PJTV ever invited a Leftist onto any of their shows? Leftists engage in debates all the time, e.g. Noam Chomsky debated Richard Perle. Among other examples.
KittenButter 1 year ago
@KittenButter I can name drop too. Since we're talking about youtube channels, how about the young turks. Let's not make it about someone else though. Let's make it about us. I'm always around for a good conversation.
los314 1 year ago
@los314
What about the Young Turks? Are they supposed to be an example of Leftists who don't debate?
At least they don't pretend to be their own opposition.
KittenButter 1 year ago
@KittenButter Again, let's not make it about some random channel. As a statist (only assuming), what do you support? Do you like Keith Olbermann? If so, why?
los314 1 year ago
@los314
No, I don't particularly like Keith Olbermann.
I'm not particularly interested in getting into a YouTube debate. But if you want to know what my ideology is, this might be helpful: wisegeek.com/what-is-democratic-socialism.htm
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KittenButter 1 year ago
@los314
Sorry, I meant: wisegeek.com/what-is-democratic-socialism.htm
KittenButter 1 year ago
@KittenButter Interesting. I'd never heard of this. We'd have to scrap the constitution so I'll have to disagree. At least I learned something new today.
los314 1 year ago
Imitation is the sincerest form of parody?
MagnusPrime01 1 year ago
In reality Olbermann is nowhere near as reasonable as he was presented here.
BTW: For future videos like this I suggest putting a crawl along the bottom filled with absurdly leftist propaganda.
ScubaSteve1974 1 year ago 2
hahahahahahahahah Loved it .
JAMRAND 1 year ago
Maddow doesn't really agree with Olbermann, she's just biding her time until the inevitable brain haemorrage arrives from Keith's restless legs and revelations about him impersonating an ivy league alum. Doctor Professor Maddow can then pander to the affirmative action wing and the lowest common denominators who've just had their eyes opened by professors...
fomastephanovitch 1 year ago
olberman is usless like fraud al gore.
7119frankr 1 year ago 2
olberman is a liberal, politically, correct dumb ass,idiot.that is a capitolist like the fraud al gore!!!!!!
7119frankr 1 year ago
Obnoxious Oberman created to balance out O'Reilly's insanity. Like two halfs of a asswhole.
If you want to challenge Oberman, then go on his show in real life.
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JohananRaatz 1 year ago
Whether you like him or not, his ratings are just as shitty as they've always been.
Darkrunner1975 1 year ago
Haha the Rachel Maddow bit always makes me laugh!
rmweav11 1 year ago
that's funny, because Keith Olberman never interviews anybody of the opposition because he's too chicken shit! He knows he'll lose. Can you picture him going up against AlfonZo Rachel.
RavishingApparition 1 year ago 38
@RavishingApparition Nah, he doesn't have the balls to go up against a kindergartener, let alone Zo.
fluteygurl0 1 year ago
@RavishingApparition He would never interview Zo because then he couldn't just claim raicism when he disagrees with obumble. Maybe someone should point out to the liberal idiots that Obama had about 30% more people approving of him when he started out, so for their theory that you only dislike him if you are racist was true, it would mean that 30% of the US just realized he was black.
Daishar 1 year ago
@RavishingApparition I totally agree I would LITERALLY pay money to see Zo go up against any mainstream liberal, and I'm not even really on either side
17GreenLantern 1 year ago
@RavishingApparition That... would be beautiful.
lonestar2078 3 months ago
hahahah rachel maddow!
Yamaha52g 1 year ago
Olberman is not from this planet . He can't help his ignorance. Pity him.
Great video
nick451 1 year ago
"Oberman" WORST PERSON in the UNIVERSE!
lancaster4314 1 year ago 27
@lancaster4314 OLberman is Awesome better than that Right Wing Unintelligent sean hannity.
cubbs357 1 year ago
@lancaster4314 And let me guess.... you have Glenn Beck's dick up your ass, right? You probably also have Sean Hannity's ball sack on your lips, and Bill O'Reilly's brown eye in your mouth.
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leungchaan 1 year ago
I'd like to see this for real. Steve would completely stuff his ass!
SuperGuitarman69 1 year ago
olberman is an ahole!
corrymac 1 year ago 2
Fascism isn't centrist because they don't use any ideas from the right wing, they are almost as far left as communists
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19
No ideas from the right wing? Hahahahahaaa... That's a good one..:-D
Yo have no clue...
leungchaan 1 year ago
Actually you have no clue what the right wing is, that is your problem.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19 You're trying to redefine things here. Fascism has always been a far-right ideology, while communism was far-left. The only thing they had in common, was the totalitarian nature of the system; the political goals were diametrically opposed. Hitler and Moussolini both destroyed the early communist and socialist movements in Germany/Italy in the early years of WW2. Same thing with Franco in Spain. That's why in Europe, all anti-fascist movements are traditionally left-wing.
leungchaan 1 year ago
how is fascism a far right ideology? Complete and total anarchy is the far right.
How is supporting corporations a right wing or left wing idea?
Hitler destroyed the communists because they threaten Nazi Germany, because Communists only saw National Socialism as the first step, while Hitler wanted it to be the last step.
Anti fascist groups are a bunch of idiots like the traditional hippies who don't have a clue what they are talking about, they are self haters destroying Europe, nothing more
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@leungchaan "has always been" is usually the rallying cry of the brainwashed. Read the Nazi program. Among it's gems are nationalized healthcare, the government take over of corporations, the restriction of wartime profits, a minimum wage, government controlled affordable housing, and many other left wing dreams.
Granted, the right is harsher on immigration, as germans were, but that was a small part of their program. (Right is also more pro-Jew/Israel).
darwinkilledgod 1 year ago
@darwinkilledgod
So what? Hitler was also a vegetarian. Are all vegetarians therefore fascists? HeH also built the first highways in Europe. So are you also against highways? Your argumentation is pretty lame. And you know exactly why the religious Right Wing is supporting Israel. Hint: It's not, because they like Jews.
leungchaan 1 year ago
@leungchaan Who defended Israel for the boat incident recently? It was FoxNews. Want to claim they are Left Wing? Sorry, it's the Right that supports Israel.
And yes, Hitler was a vegetarian and supporter of animal rights...both left wing causes. And yes, he was all about government building infrastructure...another left wing cause. My argument is simple: Hitler was more left wing than right wing. I don't think that means much, but it is historical fact.
darwinkilledgod 1 year ago
You are right about Hitler, but not because of the reasons you gave.
Vegetarians and animal rights supporters are always left wingers?
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19 We care about the Earth the right cares about the rich karma will bite the Republicant's in November.
cubbs357 1 year ago
Dems don't care about anything but themselves.
and btw if you aren't a rich govt worker then Democrats sure as hell don't care about you.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19 Your so funny I forgot to laugh,you are so unintelligent about politics my friend you are mislead by those right wing nut jobs on fox news.I'm a Democrat and care about the poor,earth,and the education of America.All the Republicants in D.C. care about killing innocent solders in Iraq for oil,But they blame us Democrats for being baby killers because of abortion,Hypocrisy at it's finest by the right.
cubbs357 1 year ago
Fox News is far to the left of me idiot and has been for quite a while.
I was a Conservative since I knew what politics was even about, and I watched Fox AND MSNBC every day with my grandmother(who was brought up as a Liberal Democrat that became a Neo Con), and after college Conservatism wasn't good enough for me because I was convinced that it isn't enough to reverse the damage that is clearly on display in those "institutions of learning''.
You know nothing about politics, I know enough.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19 Fox news is for the right I do know things about politics.
cubbs357 1 year ago
Fox will die when a real right wing network shows up, and fortunately so will all the left medias as well.
If you take the spotlight off the Conservatives then they will win, and if you then take away the spotlight from Conservatives then the real far right will win
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19 Yeah the Republicant's destroyed the Country.
cubbs357 1 year ago
@cubbs357 If i had to base history on liberal comments like yours i would think that the usa was founded 10 years ago and there's only been two presidents.
XxUrSoLoStxX 1 year ago
@XxUrSoLoStxX Ohh wow how Special!!!
cubbs357 1 year ago
@cubbs357 i'm glad you think that..
XxUrSoLoStxX 1 year ago
@cubbs357 ok u awful jack ass thats right how dare we send soldiers who signed up for the military and knew there was a chance of going to iraq who were trained by the greatest millitary in the world supplied with guns gear and an abundance of technology but then have the balls to be upset about innocent defensless unborn children being MURDERED!! anyway u just keep watching the masters of ur opinion on msnbc come back here make another dumb comment and ill be glad to make ya feel stupid again
irish4272 1 year ago
@irish4272 Listen smart one I had family fight in every war there was ok.There was no chance of us going to Iraq every American know's that for a fact.Bush sent us to Iraq for no reason and darnit I'm a true American I love my Country the USA.You can't make feel stupid you know the truth hurts.
cubbs357 1 year ago
@leungchaan Yeah Israel has the right to defend itself against people mortaring them. Its like if Mexico started bombing the USA, we would surely protect ourself
nintendude60 1 year ago
@nintendude60 Wake Up plz, if america went and took over mexican land then could you blame them for fighting for their land?
wanderlei786 1 year ago
@nintendude60 you completely missed my point. I never said something against Israel's right to defend itself.
leungchaan 1 year ago
@leungchaan Hitler was also Twice voted people magazines man of the year!
wanderlei786 1 year ago 2
actually some the right does care about Israel, while the left largely doesn't.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
keith never has anyone on his show that doesn't suck up to him.
MildTabascofries 1 year ago
baby games
btc8128 1 year ago
Where was this alledged "smack down" by this whiner 'Overly_douched'?
'Overly_douched' was ranting idiotically, sounding a lot like Obama when the teleprompter isn't working...
russ1951 1 year ago
That is the way it is
the media is more corrupt than
the gay Catholic Priests
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Mixman77 1 year ago
Capitalism IS fascism. Today's conservatives are quite different from yesterday's...they are a big part of the problem, they toe the Fascist status quo.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
Fascism: Government control of business (Volkswagen)
Capitalism: Free enterprise (GM, oh wait Obama just...)
Yeah, not exactly the same. Progressives have just been changing it away from capitalism.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
Now that's just silly. Economic Facism entails government control over and direction of the economy. Only in Capitalism do the people truly own the means of production. Facism allows the people to keep the means of production, but makes demands on what they will produce and how. As such, conservatives seeking to uphold private enterprise are not facist. So-called "Progressives" that seek greater govt management of the economy are the Economic Facists.
xagcx 1 year ago
uh... right ao arguing for the free market restoring peoples liberties to live freely, etc that's fascism? i think you need to go pick up a dictionary
rreggio12 1 year ago 2
Actually Crowder's Olberman is far more entertaining then the real thing, politics be damned XD
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
If only you'd aim your satire at the *real* villains, like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter, et al. Oh, wait, I forgot: you *aspire* to their lowest common denominator. You're a waste of talent, attacking our *true* patriots. Isn't their a law against traitors disguised as comedians?
pewterbot9 2 years ago
@pewterbot9 Wow, I'm glad people like you belong to the minority in America (just look at olberman's ratings, what a joke). Yeah, let's round up everyone who says something we don't agree with and charge them with treason. Oh wait, wasn't this country, I dont know, created by just such treasonous people, who lost everything to create the free country we now live in? Good work fighting against what our ancestors died for. You can have fun in Nazi Germany under your Liberal Führer.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
Free country? Hardly. What a joke to call this nation "free"...hatred abounds in many forms: racism, homophobia, elitism, glorified slave labor, etc. Why would I have fun in Nazi Germany, when I'm already not having fun in Nazi Amerikkka? You yourself are a typical Amerikkan patriot: brainwashed, violent, dumbass piece of shit. Yay, you go Amerikkka, yay, what an excellent country. NOT.
pewterbot9 2 years ago
Let's refute these shall we. Racism and elitism both portrayed by the liberals of this country or "our *true* patriots" as you called them. Homophobia, something Liberals scream everytime we say we don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle, no fear involved so therefore not existant. Glorified slave labor, you're probably talking about low wages for illegal immigrants. Do people who break our laws deserve to be paid the same as law abiding citizens? I dont think so.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
Homosexual is *not* a lifestyle, it is how God made us. Glorified slave labor: working full or part time to make some fat cat rich, and you don't even get health insurance. Minimum wage instead of living wage...how vulgar. Lose your job, go homeless. You don't even need to include illegal workers in the equation. I could go on, but I see no point in arguing with a dumbsh*t. Intelligence is not your cup of tea, obviously.
pewterbot9 2 years ago
I didn't say lifestyle choice. I agree homosexuality isn't always a choice. I work a minimum wage job working full time and I accepted that when I was hired If I didn't like the pay I didn't have to take the job. And I did get health benefits, very good ones at that. Then the UFCW Union started crying and sueing the company and cuts had to be made. First went corporate wages, then hour quota to qualify for benefits, then store level manager cuts of 10%, 2% everyone else.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
"I agree homosexuality isn't always a choice."
It is NEVER a choice. Idiot.
pewterbot9 2 years ago
I disagree. Alot of women claim to be homosexual simply because they dislike the fact that many men are for the most part shallow and crave beauty. Not all homosexuals are gay by nature
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
I can't blame women for that...many men are also VIOLENT. It's the machismo, stupid...which also leads to breeding unwanted children, who become criminals, not to mention homophobes like you. ALL homosexuals are homosexual (gay) by nature. Likewise, it is all too obvious that you are ignorant by nature...ergo: heterosexual. For gays are also SMARTER than breeders, by nature. It's been scientfically proven.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
I don't blame some women for hating men. But not all men are like that, you described men with basically no moral substance, and yeah there are alot of them. Now could you please stop calling me a homophobe? Or at least show me some evidence, based on what i've said, that I fear or dislike gay people. Now if I were to say Straights are smarter than gays liberals would scream homophobe at the top of their lungs, why can you do the opposite? Just because you say its proven doesn't make it true.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
{{ Just because you say its proven doesn't make it true. }}
The fact is: heterocentrism is a brute force the oppresses women and non-heteros, including with extreme threats, violence and murder. It is the most universal of all hatreds, since most other oppressed minorities--regardless of their own marginilization by the majority--remain virulently homophobic even unto their own people.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
Yes that is what 'heterocentrism' is, but not what heterosexuality is. As much could be said for Homocentrism. The reason there are more heteros than homos is because of nature. Now maybe Homosexuality is an evolution of sorts and they are the next greatest link in human evolution, but unless they find a way to reproduce...
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
Bonobos chimpanzees are a highly homosexualized species...and closest to humans on the evolutionary tree. They have no problem reproducing regardless of their non-heterosexual milieu. Various methods of non-hetero reproduction are now available to humanity...and will continue to improve, to the point where no woman would ever care to put her body through such an ordeal. In fact, gross overpopulation will soon lead to required license to breed, as there already is to adopt.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
They don't reproduce with other males and they don't grow babies in jars. They reproduce through natural means. I doubt everybody is going to jump on the 'grow your baby in a jar' train. And the lincense to breed will only happen in the US once the Constitution is completely thrown out, in which case, I will be gone. China regulates its populations breeding, the US ont intrude on something so private. Adoption is different it isn't your child and you must be confirmed as responsible first.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
Amerika thinks nothing of invading the bedrooms of gays. What goes around, comes around. No one has any right whatsoever, to bring unwanted children into this world. Rampant breeding is a sign of ignorance and insanity. Heteros are vulgar, filthy, and arrogant. Like you.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
So you want the government to decide who can have children. I bet Hitler wished he'd thought of that (maybe he did, that is one fact I am ignorant of) He could just make it so all the jews were legally prohibited from breeding. The Jewish race would become extinct in a few generations. People think these policies are good but it only takes one bad man to turn use them for evil. Like the wire taps of the Patriot Act, Bush was using them for good reasons, but if an evil man were to use them...
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
If people can't run their own lives responsibly, and continue to breed unwanted children like rabbits, then YES I want gov't--whatever gov't--to decide who can have children. We're killing ourselves and this planet with heterosexist dogma that mandates everyone to breed...and those who don't get persecuted a.k.a. "homosexuals". The vast majority of heteros act like ignorant and violent pigs, breeding more of the same into existence, w/o restraint. Much like Nazis w/o restraint. That's evil!
pewterbot9 1 year ago
Let's pretend the false premise you are arguing, over population, is a problem. Heterosexist dogma? You mean the law of nature that makes propagation of a species a priority. And humans can resist that natural inclination and who says every heterosexual person has a child?Tell me just how homosexuals get "persecuted" in america. They are only denied the title of 'married' and they are denied that because of the dictionary.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
Homosexuality is likewise a law of nature. Gays are severely persecuted in the USA...there is barely a spot on our grand map, where we can't safely be ourselves in public. We are threatened w/violence and virulently assaulted on the airwaves and other public places, by religious zealots...many of whom run the gov't. Many are bashed, some even murdered. You are a typical homophobic, feigning ignorance of our plight, dumping your own evil nature at our feet. A pile of shit is more worthy then you.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
Once again, you provide no facts, nothing of any significance accept your word and you just call me names. A few months ago a group of gay kids came through my work place openly showing themselves as what they were, no one got angry at them, no one hurt them, no one assaulted them in any way, shape, or form. We talked with them just as we would any other human beings. My mother's cousin is gay, he is a very nice guy and fun to be around, I don't dislike him in anyway. Stop being childish.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
Stop being a liar. For one: you very limited experience does not reflect society at large. You choose to remain stick-ignorant about the plight of gays in America. I doubt you've *ever* read one gay news source in your entire, pathetic hetero life.
You can see the *real* attitude of the U.S. when
gays are murdered outright by the hundreds in Iraq,
a direct result of U.S. action, and the U.S. does
not even grant asylum. And the media does not
even MENTION this.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
What have I lied about? "gay news scource" Why should gay news be any different then straight news? Hitler killed the gays, no straights tried to cover that up. "plight of gays in America" And you provide an example in Iraq? Tell me, since I don't read "gay news scources", how did US action in Iraq force a Homophobic Holocaust in Iraq. Correct me if I'm wrong wasn't Hussein killing thousands upon thousands of his own people before we came in? I'm sure plenty of them were gay.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
cont... The reason I do not believe you on this particular subject, is because you have outright claimed me to be homophobic, when I have never said a single thing that shows any hatred for gays, because I see them as people first and I judge people based on their character, not their sexual orientation, skin color, or other physical features. If you can call me a homophobe with no evidence other than my lack of being gay, why should I believe anything you say?
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
The evidence lies in your pathetic responses. You feign gay friendliness, but your remarks show otherwise. Were you a true ally of gays, you wouldn't wait for me to post you some gay news links, right? When it's sooooo easy to search for them yourself. You remain wilfully ignorant, excusing yourself by a blanket statement re. hetero vs. homo news...which is also a *false* statement.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
What remarks show me to not be freindly to gays? The rest of your response doesn't make much sense to me... You are the one who brought up gay news. What is the difference? I simply asked for your source when you said gays were being killed in Iraq because of the US. That's a pretty bold statement. I see that Islamists in Iraq are killing gays yeah, but that has nothing to do with the US unless you are saying th US is a force of Islam and most people would laugh at that statement.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
wait so people who don't breed are being persecuted? since when? pretty sure that my girlfriend and i aren't going to be reproducing any time soon. and surprisingly enough we have yet to be persecuted because of that
rreggio12 1 year ago
If you cant fucking spell America, then we should come into your bedroom, and fucking kill you. Your an idiot
griptick 1 year ago
Sorry, I stand corrected:
AmeriKKKa.
Your death threat indicates you as yet one more pinhead, heteroscum false patriot.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
you're really not helping. in fact i do believe you just proved his point. he is a gay fanatic. and just like any other fanatic he will refuse to listen to any logic that may refute his claim
rreggio12 1 year ago
where the hell do you live that people are treating gay people that badly. i live in a place where there is a large population of homosexuals (men and women) as well as a large population of Catholics. now whenever the homosexuals have a public gathering the Catholics are never far behind but all in all even though the two believe different things they are still civil to each other. there are of course the outliers like yourself for example who get irate when anyone has a different view than you
rreggio12 1 year ago
Sometimes it is. Like in jail. I think that a lot of them might choose a woman if that choice were provided. Of course you could argue that it was their latent homosexual urges that caused them to choose a life of crime, and that they didn't choose those latent urges...
FFGG22E 1 year ago
{{ you could argue that it was their latent homosexual urges }}
Your reasoned reply is most appreciated. Most people are born bisexual; it is only the oppression of a heterocentric regime that coerces most everyone to play things "straight". I therefore conclude that homosexuality is *not* a minority issue...it is a majority issue of endemic hypocrisy. Using gays as an example of what will happen to anyone else who does not toe the line of whatever Big Brother demands.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
I don't get a hard on from gay porn, where as pictures of naked women make me horny. I'm a guy.
I don't know what else to say. I don't think that "society" has the power to over ride evolution and instinct. But I do think that nature does process that gene just to keep the herd a little thinner, and that's ok.
FFGG22E 1 year ago
{{ I don't get a hard on from gay porn, where as pictures of naked women make me horny. I'm a guy. }}
I'm a guy, too. Being a "guy" does not by nature make you heterosexual. What you mean is "I'm a heterosexual guy"...please don't usurp the word "guy", "male" (and so on) as an intrinsic word for heterosexual.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
Sorry man.
FFGG22E 1 year ago
So you're saying hetero people are only hetero because of social norms? Or big government? I disagree with both. Nature makes us hetero, because like every other species on earth, propagation of your species is written in your DNA. That is why sex feels good, so that even Humans who have evolved away from following natural inclinations, are still prone to propagation of their species.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
cont... The company had to file chapter 11 bankruptcy and now our product sucks because we have bad credit, though we are coming out of chapter 11 soon. All because the workers wouldn't unionize and the corporate "fat cats" wouldn't force us to against our will. there shouldn't even be a minimum wage, it robs me of what i'm worth to the company. Thank you for calling me names, it really proves your point. Name calling really holds up well against facts and personal experiences.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
"Homosexual is *not* a lifestyle, it is how God made us." This leads me to believe you are gay, yes? Let me tell you right now I do not dislike you or fear you because of that. I disagree with your political opinion obviously, but hate you cause you're gay, no. Yet, I am one of the people who gets called a homophobe for these opinions I put forward, can you see where I'm coming from? Being called something you're not based on a difference of opinion.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
{{ This leads me to believe you are gay, yes? }}
Maybe yes, maybe no. Any intelligent and compassionate heterosexual is quite capable of making such an informed statement. You don't need to be gay to stand up for gays. You don't need to be black to stand up for blacks. You don't need to be Jewish to stand up for Jews.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
"Homosexual is *not* a lifestyle, it is how God made us."
I wasn't implying you had to be gay to defend gays. I'm not gay, I defend gays when they are attacked. I was talking about your use of the word "us" when you said homosexual is how god made us. Us includes you, and you were talking about homosexuals. Therefore, I concluded you were gay. I added the "yes?" Because I couldn't be sure and you could correct me if I was wrong about that.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
cont... And unless you are suggesting I have brainwashed myself by researching history and applying morality to my life, your "brainwashed" accusation is incorrect. "Violent"? What have I said that is remotely violent? That one doesn't even warrant a real response. "Dumbass piece of shit", unless you actually believe I am human excriment with a brain to give the possibility for me to be dumb or otherwise, I'd say that one doesn't warrant a response either.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
Cont... The reason I said have fun in Nazi Germany is because Nazi Germany is the Liberal paradise execept for the Nationalism. Hitler and the nazi's pushed for all the same things as Liberals, gun control, public education, universal healthcare, etc. Only Liberals believe those things are good, Nazi's wanted them for complete control of the public. I don't think Obama or any Liberals share hitler's motivation, but they are unintentionally setting us for the first dictator to take control.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago 2
Republicans are Nazis. Period. They are traitors, anti-American, and totally for raping the environment, licking the asses of powerful corporations. 8 years of a GOP president has virtually destroyed our once-great democracy. You're a goon, a grunt, a sweat-hog for these Nazis and Fascists. Also: ignorant as a stick.
pewterbot9 2 years ago
What similarities are there between Nazi's and Conservatives besides love for one's country? The Nazi's are socialist, Conservatives are capitalist. Hitler said he agreed with the communist ideology on almost everything. So I point out these things and your response is to make a statement with no supporting evidence? No wonder you like olbermann. Bush was wrong on some things mainly his spending, but he did keep the Republic safe, which is the Federal Government's one real job.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
Your ignorance of history is abominable. I quote:
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out"
"They" meaning Nazis, of course.
Bush was wrong on *everything*...he's a puppet for evil. I'm sure you never tire of licking his Aryan rectum. Today's conservatives a.k.a. "neocons" have no love for their country...they have no love at all. Just hatred. They are out to destrou Amerikkka, and then the world.
Fascism will come to America draped in a flag and waving a cross.
pewterbot9 2 years ago
Hitler agreed with the Socialist, totalitarian ways of communism. The reason he hated Communists was because they threatened his own design of Nazism. Communsim was rising in the East as a powerful force and was begining to become a Global threat. If the Communists took over, where would that leave the Nazis? That is why he hated them. Yes, cutting taxes and government spending is going to destroy our country. Just like Rome...oh wait. That's what Rome didn't do just before it fell.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
Either you're very confused MrCBRIDD, or you're lying through your teeth...and I believe it's the latter. Socialism is neither totalitarian nor communistic. Democracy, should it keep its promise of liberty for all, will incorporate socialist programs to meet the basic needs of all citizens...such as universal health care, free quality education right through college, living wage, and guaranteed decent housing regardless of income or lack thereof. Otherwise, only the wealthy can pursue happiness.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
Yes, because Bill Gates started out wealthy, as well as every other successful businessman, they all started out wealthy. Socialism isn't totalitarian, but its a common tool used by Totalitarian Regimes to take away the freedoms of the public. And it walks hand in hand with communism, you know where 'everybody owns everything'. And guess what else? The US isn't a Democracy, its a Republic. You want to know why? Refer to Thomas Jefferson.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
You would deny non-wealthy citizens health care, decent housing, quality education? How monstrous, how UNamerican. You must be very pleased to learn of the Texas education board's recent decision to remove any mention of Jefferson in the history books, elimination word "democracy" in describing the USA's government, and in the exclusion of the theory of evolution from all science books and classes.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
Who said I would deny anything? I would allow the poor to make something of themselves by not keeping them dependant on socialized wealthfare. Why would I be pleased about that decision? Jefferson is one of my favorite Founders. And post a link to the totally biased article you gleaned this little piece of evidence from and I'll make my own judgements on the matter, but for know I'm calling your statement a load of bull.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
@MrCBRIDD Thomas Jefferson? Oh, you mean the white guy who wrote the Declaration Of Independence, and saying that we all had rights, but then turned around and owned slaves???? That guy? Yeah, he's a GREAT ROLE MODEL.......LOL
August25QDJ 1 year ago
@August25QDJ
Yes I mean Thomas Jefferson who replaced John lockes 'property' with 'pursuit of happiness' so that slavery would not be protected under the Constitution. Yes, I mean Jefferson who on two seperate occassions tried to legislate the emancipation of slaves. Yes I'd say he is a great role model.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
@August25QDJ Jefferson's original drafts contained emancipation for slaves. The southern states would not go along. And CBRIDD is correct, Jefferson replaced the "property" with "pursuit of hapiness" Jefferson abhored slavery. He was the true patriot and lover of liberty among the bunch.
ghahandi 1 year ago
@pewterbot9 truth be told.
docmurdoc69 1 year ago
Cont... Note that I am talking about the Roman Republic not the Empire.
"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced. If the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt, people must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 BC
In short, liberals destroyed the last nation where the public and government were one.
MrCBRIDD 2 years ago
@MrCBRIDD You are indeed a dufus. Debt has always increased vastly under a Republican Pres.'s watch, and decreased under a Democrat. Most recent examples: Bush Jr. created our present disaster with trillions in debt (which Obama inherited)...and Clinton gave us a surplu
pewterbot9 1 year ago
Ah yes and Obama is fixing this by...spending even more? No idiot could ever believe that would work. Yes Bush spent too much, I cannot speak for Clinton because I was a child then. A budget Surplus is different then debt however. I didnt pay very much attention to Bush's Presidency either you know what with being distracted by teenage things like school and girls. From what I hear, Bush inherited a recession also. And our current economic problems occurred AFTER the Dems took Congress.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
@MrCBRIDD You didn'tpay much attention to Bush's presidency? Worst cop-out ever. Then how can you make any intelligent analysis of Obama's presidency? The answer: you can't. Yet you insist on bashing Democrats, w/o understanding where all this horrible debt comes from. You are pathetically *clueless*, too brain-dead to study recent history. News flash: you're *still* a child, mentally. Typical hetero clone. Doesn't even know what he's talking about.
pewterbot9 1 year ago
The debt came from spending more than the government takes in, its as simple that. I can tell you our debt would be significantly smaller if it werent for Liberal entitlement programs like social sercurity and medicare, which sap a huge amount of tax revenue. The fault lies with big federal government and our crappy tax code. You call me a "child" and yet you can't stop name-calling and making baseless accusations. Sounds like an angry child to me.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
Let me tell you the difference between a budget surplus and debt, because they aren't opposites. Clinton's budget was what Congress allowed him to spend, he spent less. Just like Obama has a budget, if he spends less, there will be a "budget surplus" but what he did spend will be added to the debt. this means, simply, less debt than was deemed acceptable.
MrCBRIDD 1 year ago
@pewterbot9
worst cop out ever? He kept the country afloat durring the biggest tradgedies since pearl harbor and the san francisco quake. he didn't turn the budget into something that could never be turned around. Obama has spent more than he did 7 times over. and Bush had to deal with the two aforementioned tragedies. and by the way, it's awesome that you showed how immature you are by going for a personal attack asap instead of putting up facts to back your argument. at least i waited
daPlumber702 1 year ago
@daPlumber702
Can you point me to a reputable source showing Obama's expenditures compared to Bush's? Preferable something broken down including war time expenditures and showing revenue sources. It's important to see how much is being paid for with taxes vs what is pure debt.
ekpil2000 1 year ago