HoN: Sandwraith Guide by Nigma

[atomlasr]

Nigma is so clueless...

[Kliiitsch]

Fayde has more :D

[MegaBob711]

the "top" of the list doesn't mean #1 -_-

[Kyluxian]

bahahaha! I play HoN after originally playing DotA, so stop saying who copied who when most things originated from DotA! The reason why I switched was because HoN had a better spin on the gameplay. Anyway, stop arguing on Nigmas video, if you respect him don't make his comments so trash.

[seaninductivo03]

SandWraith is easy to use than SPectre

[DaitoSamurai]

forgot mask of madness, or you not going to farm and hunt single targets as you SHOULD, lol

[CloudCovers]

Hey... HoN Nocturne!!!!!

[CrapTBH]

@CloudCovers sand wraith has been out a long time before nocturne

[runemaster123654]

@CloudCovers only similarities are ult and deserts curse, and its a different playstyle altogether.

[gmt62]

@CloudCovers I tried not to mention spectre......



[amsd1231]

@CloudCovers Pfff, you accuse HoN on copying LoL and the example you cite is Nocturne? You really are retarded. First off Sand Wraith came BEFORE Nocturne, so "Hey... LoL Sand Wraith!!!" would be more fitting. But Sand Wraith is just a port of Spectre from DotA so let's just stop there. But Nocturne is clearly an amalgam of the Dark Lady from HoN and Spectre from DotA. When Nocturne ults he says "darkness" and the enemy team loses sight, well guess what Dark Lady's ult does and what she says.

[demigodFUDO]

@amsd1231 /watch?v=eyNjBNoY6V0&feature=r­elated your argument, in the form of a link =D

[CloudCovers]

@amsd1231 Haha, I was just saying this because I was new to HoN, and had been playing LoL for some times earlier. I just thought that one resembled the other, not saying anything about who copied who, so relax man,

[LightningMalcolm1]

@RainjiKowaru actually, no. Nullfire is an exclusive modifier, and frostwolf is an attack modifier. I used to think that, but they DO stack.

[MrKumbayah]

How do u animation cancel

[halooser1]

@MrKumbayah default key is "S" with it u stop animation of spells and animation of your hero. Im gonna try it with sw today

[JuJuMonste]

how to split frost fire??

[GsStyles]

does brutalizer work with his illusions?

[LethalThoughts1992]

Im just wondering... What would happen if u build Sand Wraith as a DPS?..... u know get some health items buh get loads of damage on him? Rofl

[keng0418]

no wonder, spectre in dota is one of the feared heros in late games

[RainjiKowaru]

Uhm... Aren't Nullfire Blade and Frostskull both attack modifier? That means they don't stacks so...

[KARELASON]

@RainjiKowaru frostwolf-attack modifier, nullfire-exclusive modifier

[RoonyHD]

Isn't Fayde at the top of this list @0:17 with 5.97%?

[Quitjeans]

hilarious i think that magebane had nullfire blade.

[OkamiSojirou]

12 people didn't watch this vid before playing sand wraith and got pwnd playing him.

[LudlowsMusic]

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[saijaiantonio]

So out of date since frostwolf and nullfire doesn't propagate to illusions anymore

[devil724]

I like it when MsPudding commentates. Her speeh is a lot less rushed and not to mention it sounds nice too :)

[Keelle09]

lol is bettert than this stupid game

[krisakias]

@Keelle09 for kids like you yeah

[Sheik79]

@krisakias

herp derp i play hon so i think im better... lmao

[krisakias]

@Sheik79 you think, my name is zardas at hon, lets see whos better

[Sheik79]

@krisakias

name is ZFreeK

[Iampower123]

@Keelle09 LOL sucks

[Sheik79]

@Iampower123

haha......

[TriggerHappy1243]

@Iampower123

Your mom sucks

[dirrwen]

@Keelle09 mai spelling r bettert tan yurz

[Tobyturnerfan1]

Nocturne is a total Rippoff from Sandwraith...

[Corrysion]

@Tobyturnerfan1 Sandwraith of course is a DotA port.

[RsBeginnerHelp]

lol why is scout always the victim?

[dethsentance105]

can you plese do a guide on chronos

[ferdypanarto]

I guess keep clicking on enemy hero will speed its attacking speed. Correct me if im wrong, or thumbs up, so ppl can see

[saijaiantonio]

@ferdypanarto I think you have to move a bit to animation cancel. Experienced Dota and Hon player ^_^

[DevilBoyVex]

how do you cancel attack animation?

[TheDen1al]

Oh fuck yeh. That music.

[richiev18]

How do you animation cancel to speed up his attacks?

[wiggybamstar]

@richiev18 click walk where you want to go right after your attack lands

[merjil9]

THE DESERTS POWAAHHHH

[TheClashyyy]

LEGEND OF ZELDA I LOVE U GAHAHAHA

[imDivineLight]

Nigma you discouraged us from Mock and yet on prodex you have it as core for SW :/ I'm confused!!!

[DanielSon1996]

Wats the difference of this game and LoL?

[dospy1]

this game has a lot of new features such as opftions for entering MatchMaking Queue, you just have to chose the mode, map options(3v3/5v5) and wait for the server to match with your opponents.

in addition, a lot of stats are recorded during game, such as Kills, Deaths, Assists, creeps, APMs etc

Furthermore every game you gain some coins witch you can use to buy new sounds and models.

i personally thing that this game is totally overowning LoL

[TheSonOfTheSystem]

@DanielSon1996 Lol sucks. Hon does not.

[lolfunnystuff22]

@DanielSon1996 HoN is Better <3 imo

[khunag]

@DanielSon1996 LoL doesn't look so bland and boring, it's fun and free.

[Magnus2556]

Omg Nocturne ripoff. :D

[alucard92717]

@Magnus2556 Your fucking retarded, i play both games, Sand wraith was a port from DotA, and nocturne only has one thing in common with them, his trail.

Get out.

[Magnus2556]

@alucard92717 Trollbait says what? Sidenote, Nocturneès ultimate has nothing to do with shrouding ally vision and targeting an enemy of his choice amirite? -You- are fucking retarded, sir.

[alucard92717]

@Magnus2556 Must be bad that SW's ulti doesn't block vision.

Thats Dark Lady.

[fir283]

noob scout.

[YuTubeWeTube]

looks like fayde was top of the list

[DeVoirZ]

Geometers bane doesn't propagate anymore, so it's not recommended to buy that anymore, just telling that so everyone knows

[WeaponUser2]

What to buy and put spells on?

[WeaponUser2]

What do buy and how to set spells?

[amelyn80]

man plzz but plzz make an alternate avatar for scout :o3

[BreadOnToast1337]

So i play LoL not much of a fan of HoN, but after watching this... LoL ripped of HoN, they just realeased a hero called "nocturne" if you take a look at his skills they're almost exactly the same and the style of the character is too :\

[06Lance]

@BreadOnToast1337 You obviously haven't heard of DotA. This is Spectre(Mercurial) I believe in DotA. Just saying.

[jssa1995]

fuck your item build noob. helm of black legion first or ur tissue paper, especially since u get deserted first b4 dissipitate. MOCK OWNS, NOT FROSTWOLF OR SOME OTHER SHIT. ..l., ,.l..

[TheBojan3101]

@jssa1995 i would like to see a game between u and nigma

[shitpicklez]

@TheBojan3101 I had a friend who played in the same team as nigma in a pub and said he sucked and besides he doesnt even have high psr mock and helm is awesome

[BInRt]

Helm of the Black Legion as a first item is mandatory. Then you get Nullfire Blade, then Frostwolf Skull, either straight or through Frostburn, then either Behemoths Heart or Geometers Bane.

If you have freefarm and ultra-high gpm, you can also rush Mock of Brilliance if you can get it before 25 minutes.

[ToonEye]

intro music from zelda (ocarina of time i think?)??? if yes THUMPS UP!

[TheDotARampage]

@ToonEye TROLL MORE PLZ

[SwelolSwe]

@ToonEye fail

[zivkobabz]

Don't listen too much to this video coz the metagame changed quite a bit.

SW is competative again and is totally retarded in pubs since there's not much tp.

[vlictor]

great vid, thanks!

[FrykillerHoNn]

theres more to life on HoN hes prolly on a break or something

[suchapaintofoundit]

yeah radiance ( mock of brillance ) works pretty well, but you need a good babysiter in order to have the farm for it. In any case, i think it's black legion helm as first item, even before boots. I just learned something i didnt know thought, that stats bonus work on illu, but mock damage doesn't. Still true in latest version?

[0126090097]

Does radiance works well with sw like it does for spectre in dota?

[MrScorpionDK]

Nigma make a Wildsoul guide

PLZZ

[pacodimy]

a...lifesteal .,,,runed axe...nullfire...and u kill them all ....wtf ...

[sumzy41]

Have they changed his illusions now? Coz mock works with illusions now, and nullfire is still situational as to what you can purge off the other team

[BlaCkYaMp]

it's funny how scout always dies in the beggining :D

[satanlolz666]

Seriously, people never buy Frostwolf for SW. It's such an underrated item but it's so amazing.

[yondaimeeeeee]

did nigma quit ? dosent look like he is into hon anymore and do videos of other heroes :( 

[dagorren]

@yondaimeeeeee now he is working for S2 game and still making guides but its not him that is talking but he is the one that makes the movie

[xXLowRid3rXx]

@yondaimeeeeee

he works for S2 games now... he produces the videos on the S2 youtube channel :)

[yondaimeeeeee]

ITS GARAAA!!!!! 

[AssViolator619]

i instantly remembered the beggining theme music from Legend Of Zelda :) <3333

[Shumagorarthss]

@AssViolator619 ur name is assviolator LOL

[AssViolator619]

@Shumagorarthss yes. yes it is :)

[ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr]

@AssViolator619 Sandwraith ,and its the theme from that sand village :D Memories! LoZ is srsly the most fuckng awesome game series ever

[Username636]

@AssViolator619 its "gerudo valley" ;)

[AssViolator619]

@Username636 ah yes, thank you

[DocEmmittBrown]

@AssViolator619 gerudo fortress

[SilentVisionary]

Anyone ever considered Frostwolf skull for SW?

I know it's bloody expensive... but your ulti and 1st skill is such a ridiculous help to the team when you have it.

Plus. It adds to your max health.

After that... Geometer's bane and you're good to go.

[145955985]

@SilentVisionary I did try before my 2nd item after boots , I was just farming and farming for forstskull... and in the end the enemies start to panic when my illusion carry the item over and make them god damn slow and plus DMG !! Is a good idea if u can farm and adn take the kill to farm ur frostskull !!

[irvinlambchops]

if you think mock is only good at 20-25 minutes i'd have to say- "kid you play too much em" unless the other team's 2 support heroes are farming well and tanking up that mocks gonna keep killing them until the game is over, i like mock heart or mock frostwulf or mock geos or geos frost is fun too. I find that if you dont want to get a mock going geos for the move speed+ your slow is just as good as having nullfire. Then nullfire has its uses too so its all preference and depends on team comps

[niggy730]

Also the thing with sand wraith is that he is the ONLY carry that literally can take down the entire team on his own. The magic damage from mock and dissipate combined with the illu damage will take down the support heroes meanwhile the real sw and his teammates focus down their carries and other important heroes. This is what makes sw so valuable in lategame and why he can't be outcarried. In all higher level games mock is always the main item. This build is not as good as hotbl-mock

[niggy730]

You get fast hotbl, then steamboots strength. Now u have a lot of hp. combined with dissipate you're a tanking monster and literally cant die unless they are 4-5 players ganking you. Since he's the hardest carry in the game only pick sw if you're gonna aim for a 45+ min game. Start farming your mock, the magic damage coming from mock+dissipate aswell as the physical from illusions is OVERWHELMING. You will start owning. then get FWS/heart, then wingbow/nullfire. GG!!

[velqlol]

While Nigma provides good reasoning why to not get mock, it's still the item to get in high-mid level games when getting an early helm of the black legion. It's also worth taking into consideration that when you get a helm you won't be needing extra HP via steamboots, but instead you can go phase in order to get more hits in while following a cursed target by animation cancelling, and simply because the active from boots makes you way faster than with simply steamboots.

[Stylexxify]

Helm + Dissipate + = veeeeeerrryyy tanky

[Fortuna29]

Fantastic!!

[geturphil69]

YEAHHH. GET SAND IN THEIR VAGINAS!

[blackymon]

Gerudo valley theme from Zelda64! XD

[blackymon]

The sand is all-consuming!

[RebirthWoWGuild]

Eh frost wolf wtf?

[TheBloodshotFilms]

@RebirthWoWGuild Slow + hp.

[iqtuz]

Radience is great on sand wratih if you can get it early (20-25min) otherwise, just rush a diffusial blade or hacnk'nslash.

[niggy730]

@iqtuz mock is not only good 20-25 min, that's silly. The thing with sw is that he can take down the entire team at once, both carries and supports. Supports are always very weak on HP, so the magic damage coming from dissipate and mock will take them down easily. Even after 40+mins

[bitchslapper12]

1:27 Voice crack

[konimaru02]

The reason why people get mock on him because when you use your ult the effect of mock will be in the illusions as well.....

[xxBimmerxx]

I don't get what he means with sw attack animation ?

Am I to press h and then hit again ? or spam a + click on hero instead of rightclicking ? :)

[hoylguy11]

@xxBimmerxx press S to cancel the atack animation then atack again etc etc etc, if you are fast enought i suggest press A to atack then S then A then S and so on, just make sure to press S the exact moment you land your atack to take maximum advantage of the animation canceling.

[xxBimmerxx]

@hoylguy11 Thx a lot m8 :)

[laicheelip]

Nigma like to kill scout huh?

:/

[elgato9o]

nowaydays in most games i dont see much ppl run alone :( or if they r alone in their woods farming their allies r nearby so its not a good idea to teleport and try to go for a kill then

[erefrits]

Why Scout always die in your's intro?

[hunkeelin]

you are so wrong, mock of brilliance is a must in high level games. That is because in high level games it's very organized and sw should be able to get the 3400 at around 20~23min.

[felixdacat2]

isnt nullfire blade an orb? how can it stack with frostwolfskull?

[MaRkOsT26]

@felixdacat2 Mana combustion is a separate case, it stacks with any other attack modifier. Just read the item description and you'll know.

[konimaru02]

@felixdacat2 Nullfire is not an attack modifier so it CAN stuck with frostwolfskull....

[hoylguy11]

@felixdacat2 nullfire is exclusive modifier, frostskull is attack modifier, so yup they stack.

[coolcoollo]

Fun times = Nullfire/Geometers/Refresher. Ult, Manifest, use geo, use resto, ult, manifest, GEO. 14 Sands. Kthx for the lulz

[Dltize]

@coolcoollo ROFL. You should get two illusion runes as well. :D:D

[MrBuTProductiOnz]

one time me chasing a guy wit like 300 hp, another guy on his team was chasing me like 60 % hp i was like 70 %, and then i decide to just fight the guy chasing me, while gettin damaged, the guy wit 300 hp died from reflection and then i also killed the guy chasing me ahhaha so awesome, but this was in dota years ago

[sk555ify]

zelda theme ftw....simple as that

[t1nb4n3]

Did he say, "Dessert's Curse" when he first said it? heh

[AdmiralFear]

meh, The biggest thing I hate about HoN is that all the attack animations are too easy.

[Hatchatfatbat]

Poor scout always getting bullied by nigma :(

[Paksyiet]

Stupid Accursed

[kartofawe]

The first cool build i see... usually all roll helm/mock -.-

[Hatchatfatbat]

Zelda music FTW

[ItzAnameOk]

You know how SandWraith got most votes on that Guide pole??

1.He's friggin hard to farm.

2. He's abilities dont have much Use(Really dont have) in Early and Mid

3.He might have boost in Armor and Stuff but he's still boring but good in LATE game.

4. Really hard to farm and really really hard to manage(unless your good of course)

5.Lastly, The dude has low Base Damage even if he's lvl 11 or so with good Stats item.(IMO)

Anyways... Good guide by Nigma :D

[143229]

@ItzAnameOk Ehm...some points are right but alot is wrong. His abilities are awesome if used right.. His ulti is the most effective gank tool in the game since u can pop up on any enemy hero where ever u want..and he is as hard 2 farm as any1 else. And u can escape with his slow/speed nuke.He is a really good hero.

[ExperimentalAss]

nice vid

[JrKorvid]

notice how he always kills scout in the beginning?

[skerskies]

funny nigma.. best intro ever lol

[Koombsie]

odd why does the music sound like the music from legend of zelda when u get to that desert... cant remember wat its called

[laedarian]

@Koombsie It's the Music From Gerudo Valley in Ocarina of Time? xD

[Koombsie]

@laedarian thats it. love the music

[JrKorvid]

lol notice that scout dies like every guide?

[Ugletek]

Stopped laughing now so... (HAHAHAHAHA).... Turn English subtitles on... and laugh to death! XD

[vip1495]

ty thats realy help me:P

[EpiPaff]

i feel you didnt stress the importance of also getting hp so that dissipate is more effective

[AKSsasori]

Sand Wraith needs more buffz

[TheOverlordPlayer]

you forgot to mention that deserted is effected with your illsions too, with nulfire blade.

Also you shoudve mentioned that you can use your ulti as an escape mechanism too.

Just trhowing these out here

[emjoemjo]

i think i know who is the hero that going to practice :D

[Imperia96]

Isnt Fayde higher on votes?

[Sicyy]

Can anyone tell me how to get those $ signs when killing a creep?

[kabalan20]

0:09 And Scout dies again : )

[carvul1]

I guess this is specter from dota?

[CRUZEIROFUTBOLCLUBE]

@carvul1 yep its mercurial the spectre

[Sniffiduudi3]

correct me if im wrong. but behemot heart gives per centual damage to all damage. which in the case i understand also counts for mock dmg aoe burn and dissipates damage. so that is the case that makes mock burn better on longer games. i don't say mock is better! i mean to say that it depends. but on longer games my sand kills every1 with pure aoe from mock and dissipate. autoattacks are just bonus. and chasing hero with mock also kills lowbies fast. it never takes longer than 30min for mock,

[Sniffiduudi3]

correct me if im wrong. but behemot heart gives per centual damage to all damage. which in the case i understand also counts for mock dmg aoe burn and dissipates damage. so that is the case that makes mock burn better on longer games. i don't say mock is better! i mean to say that it depends. but on longer games my sand kills every1 with pure aoe from mock and dissipate. autoattacks are just bonus. and chasing hero with mock also kills lowbies fast. it never takes longer than 30min for mock,

[aalleezzzz]

u said u could disassemble the frostburn to make geomatres bane and and frostwolf skull, how do i disassemble an item? please reply to this

[gators11000]

@aalleezzzz you move the item to your inventory and you left click it and it should break it up into pieces

[irishbum2007]

gerudo valley theme, yeah!

[SashimiTSK]

I personally get barbed armor along with the said "core" items

[tuomashe]

m0ck mate



[BuisnessNinja]

Consider the following? who are you, Bill Nye?!

[hobo74123]

Legend of Zelda. p.s Link wud own scout

[RapistAsshole]

LoL > HoN

[OnlyKurial]

Lol Flash reference.

[deltras]

You didn't talk about your skill build? :x

[Frozenkex]

i would disagree about items prenerf atleast. Because main strength of sandwraith is dissipate which means health, mock is even more awesome. And if u get heart after mock your mock and dissipate damage does 10% more. Sadly dissipate is much weaker now since true damage is much better than magic damage.

[likeIwilltellyou]

Your the best nigma, great guide! (as always) :P

[Shadsythe]

Man the good ol days where sw wasnt nerfed horribly he was my fav hero, surprisingly during closed beta i built him with null and geo b4 i saw this vid and owned with him. I even broke a 1v3 by ulting and geo split for a buttload of illu :D

[Kamartenator]

120 apm? :o i have like 180 or more :D

[oyvinmoe]

Curse, Nullfire AND frostburn/frostwolf? Sounds like waste of money to me.

[Cabsinthehouse]

im wathicng too

[Trestano]

Интересная инфа...

[deathsnightmar3]

underestimated carry, hes beast. Not too op, but not underpowered either. If you aren't retarded you can play as good as any other carry.

[GWmackan]

Where can i find the site where you vote for heroes?

[PeterPetersilie8]

NIGMA LOST THE GAME WITH MADMAN IN THE LANING GUIDE :D ! (yes im proud the i have beaten him) :D:D:D:D

[D3M0N303]

SO much love for Zelda themes <3333333

[xintoxi]

Another great video nigma ;)

[Mystacinidae]

No boots on recommended items :( ??

[MeTalFeer]

yeah scout sucks ass. hes clean up crew

[C2MeLee]

Nigma really hates scout lol