I've done some manganese thermites too, and mine were pretty violent as RokSrakaCar said (two of my videos feature it). I used MnO2:Al in a ratio of 2.42:1 by weight, with 425 mesh aluminum powder. I've found that finer powder makes a huge difference in the speed of reaction, so maybe that's why yours didn't go as quickly?
mabakken, great experiments, but I have a question. You say copper oxide is much lower on the reactivity scale, but your experiment shows it to react quickly and explosively. Can you explain?
its like the alkali metals, the further down you go, the more reactive they become, this should also be the case for metals because then they have more electrons to use up in the reaction
Due to it being lower on the reactivity series it's potential for it to be displaced by a more reactive metal is high. Metals high in the reactivity series have much lower potential to be reduce there for the rate of reaction is much lower and the required activation energy higher.
That's not a thermite reaction thats just a normal redox-reaction. Thermite reactions are a special type of redox-reactions between a metal oxide and a metal..
no...what was your ratio (mine was MnO2 : Al = 2,4 : 1). But I did find out, that this thermite is more violent in large quantities. However, small reactions were still quite violent.
Probably because of the high oxidation number of manganese (+4), this oxide acted more violently than predictes only by the Al/Mn electrochemical series.
The reaction could be:
3MnO2 + 2Al --> 3MnO + Al2O3
Instead of the classical thermite substitution. 3MnO2 + 4Al --> 3Mn + 2Al2O3
In my opinion, it's strongly depend what kind of aluminium powder did you used. There are various micro meter in size (the smaller size is make the mixture more homogeneous -> more reactive), and there are flake- or sphercial aluminium powders. In pyrotechnical mixtures the various aluminium powders (flake or sphercial) are strongly define the mixture burn rate!
In copper(I) Oxide, Copper is in oxidation state +1, but in Copper(II) Oxide it is in oxidation state +2. The chemical formulas are Cu2O and CuO, respectively.
With respect to reactivity, Copper(II) Oxide is very low in the reactivity series with regard to Aluminum, and therefore the reaction is much more violent!
so that's what happened on 9/11
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A Florida engineer, Jonathan Cole, recently demonstrated how to use packaged thermite to cut steel girders, box columns, and bolts. See my video:
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punxsutawneybarney 9 months ago
So that's what "blur mixed with blur" is! :-D
DevilMaster 1 year ago 3
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haha, that's right ;)
mabakken 1 year ago
and how much did all the oxidising chemicals and the aluminimum and iron powder cost you to do this?
GWR4079 1 year ago
You should try that with Uranium oxide... :-)
amourdutigre 1 year ago
I've done some manganese thermites too, and mine were pretty violent as RokSrakaCar said (two of my videos feature it). I used MnO2:Al in a ratio of 2.42:1 by weight, with 425 mesh aluminum powder. I've found that finer powder makes a huge difference in the speed of reaction, so maybe that's why yours didn't go as quickly?
mrhomescientist 1 year ago
I made one out of Copper(II)oxide and titanium metal, I put it in a tube and left a crater in my lawn.
Bernler75 1 year ago
Have you ever tried NaOH + Al?
mV33rs 1 year ago
freeze it at 3:05
reven676 1 year ago
What did u put at the end?
GingleGangle1 2 years ago
dagerous
Revelde20 2 years ago
you meen dangerous? what a fail at spelling
reven676 1 year ago
you mean to like" meen" and mean? check your self! typo and fail to spell ! ?
Revelde20 1 year ago
Lipsmalloy:
Precisely cos copper is unreactive, it is easily displaced by metals(eg aluminium and zinc) from its compounds therefore rate of reaction is fast.
dreamwalkercchms 2 years ago
AWESOME were do you get the hand held torch?
lewisvz 2 years ago
You are a dane, right? :-D
"Magnesium bånd" :P
VilliVanilli 2 years ago
mabakken, great experiments, but I have a question. You say copper oxide is much lower on the reactivity scale, but your experiment shows it to react quickly and explosively. Can you explain?
LipsMalloy 2 years ago
its like the alkali metals, the further down you go, the more reactive they become, this should also be the case for metals because then they have more electrons to use up in the reaction
seuntjie900 2 years ago
@LipsMalloy
Due to it being lower on the reactivity series it's potential for it to be displaced by a more reactive metal is high. Metals high in the reactivity series have much lower potential to be reduce there for the rate of reaction is much lower and the required activation energy higher.
mewrox99 2 years ago
GREAT VIDEO! Thanks so much for posting this! I am already in the process of recommending this to people! :)
ravensmomscorp76 2 years ago
Try doing this without the bricks.
johnm7115 2 years ago
Very instructive, since I know of this reactions for a while, but never saw them before
respaldoscero 2 years ago
Awesome!
SirSmokeal0t 2 years ago
I wonder, what would it be like if you used gold oxide?
dragonridley 2 years ago
was thinking exactly the same
mV33rs 2 years ago
can i use aluminum oxide in thermite?
alleyezon50cent 2 years ago
stick with iron oxide, some of the other oxides react more rapidly at lower temps causing explosions
starshock01 2 years ago
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alleyezon50cent 2 years ago
just wondering if it will work
alleyezon50cent 2 years ago
excellent job. I'd been wanting to test CuO thermite for a while...
zcuttlefish 2 years ago
mabakken, you do a good job!
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retalz 2 years ago
Hi
Tin oxide works good as well , hard to get the tin metal out though cool video BTW
twirlywirly55 2 years ago
A few months ago I made some MnO2 thermite and it burnt allmost explosive.
potassiumperchlorate 2 years ago
Anhydrous plaster powder with aluminium is also very powerful, see my video.
b43e65f77 3 years ago
That's not a thermite reaction thats just a normal redox-reaction. Thermite reactions are a special type of redox-reactions between a metal oxide and a metal..
potassiumperchlorate 2 years ago
mmmm what about titanium oxide? mmmmm tonight i will try!
EzraKile 3 years ago
titanium is more reactive than many people think. Try silver oxide!
sciencoking 2 years ago
Copper (II) Oxide and Aluminum?
slyscafe 3 years ago
sweet. I saw one of your other videos and immediately went to your page to see if you had a thermite reaction one ;)
asofaihp 3 years ago
Gold(III) oxide (if you can get some) would be worth watching too =D
Proph3tTroyer 3 years ago
no...what was your ratio (mine was MnO2 : Al = 2,4 : 1). But I did find out, that this thermite is more violent in large quantities. However, small reactions were still quite violent.
RokSrakaCar 3 years ago
that's odd! in my case, manganese thermite was very violent... check out my video (big thermite reactions)
RokSrakaCar 3 years ago
That is strange...did you use the same oxide? MnO2?
mabakken 3 years ago
yes, i did
RokSrakaCar 3 years ago
Strange. According to the electrochemical series, it SHOULD behave like it did in my video. Any theories?
mabakken 3 years ago
Probably because of the high oxidation number of manganese (+4), this oxide acted more violently than predictes only by the Al/Mn electrochemical series.
The reaction could be:
3MnO2 + 2Al --> 3MnO + Al2O3
Instead of the classical thermite substitution. 3MnO2 + 4Al --> 3Mn + 2Al2O3
derkozten 3 years ago
@mabakken
In my opinion, it's strongly depend what kind of aluminium powder did you used. There are various micro meter in size (the smaller size is make the mixture more homogeneous -> more reactive), and there are flake- or sphercial aluminium powders. In pyrotechnical mixtures the various aluminium powders (flake or sphercial) are strongly define the mixture burn rate!
syntheser 1 year ago
@mabakken maganese burns in small and explodes in big. copper explodes in small but burns in big
MrAde9999 4 months ago
any1 know where I can get Magnesium Ribbon Cheap and easy? (I live in Sweden)
Bernler75 3 years ago
no but if u are useing it to light thermite easily try KNO3 + S + Al to light the thermite but u have to use black powder to light the KNO3 + S + AL
kyubi890 3 years ago
Er du dansk?
Marcooftw 3 years ago
Nei, jeg er norsk. :)
mabakken 3 years ago
NICE VIDEO
nachtparade 3 years ago
mmm, very informative video... I'll have to play around with these one day!
thanks :)
iman10000 3 years ago
i covered a turd in that stuff and it smlet REALY BAD!!!!!
rchad14 3 years ago
And the diameter of the fireball was approximately about one meter?
Quite impressive for an unconfined thermite.
Nilss7 3 years ago
great. What amount of CuO/Al did you use?
Nilss7 3 years ago
They were mixed in an exact stoichiometric ratio, with ca 5 grams Aluminum. :)
mabakken 3 years ago
can the glycerol with KMnO4 ignite the ZnO thermite?
nulladiessine 3 years ago
It can ignite any Thermite that is thermodynamically favorable!
mabakken 3 years ago
whats the difference between copper oxide (I)
and copper oxide (II)
Basco36 4 years ago
In copper(I) Oxide, Copper is in oxidation state +1, but in Copper(II) Oxide it is in oxidation state +2. The chemical formulas are Cu2O and CuO, respectively.
With respect to reactivity, Copper(II) Oxide is very low in the reactivity series with regard to Aluminum, and therefore the reaction is much more violent!
mabakken 4 years ago
coooooooooooooooool
RokSrakaCar 4 years ago