hey ff621. to compare Pedro Martinez to Nolan Ryan or Juan Marichal or Nolan Ryan is downright idiotic. For one, they pitched in different eras. when Pedro started to pitch the idea of the bullpen wasnt quite fully developed yet but was by the time he reached his prime. another thing to consider is the things that Pedro could do at his size (5"11' 180 pounds) were just ridiculous and he was a workhorse by the standards of any team in his prime. one more thing, if Koufax made the hall, Petey will
@ff621 So you don't know much about regular Joe either. Your books are irrelevant, and Martinez is no Marichal, Koufax or Ryan, but he is one of the best pitchers of our lifetime. I am a Yankee fan and that guy has my respect. You need to learn a lot.
@iakny yeah you are right I don't know $hit about baseballand apologize for being such an uninformed moron, I was wondering when was Pedro Inducted into the Hall of Fame? according to you he is a hall of famer already. doctors are not doctors til they graduate and get their titles. : )
@ff621 so now that we have gotten political and tense correctness out of our way, the only thing your tiny little self has left to unsuccessfully argue is " will Pedro make the hall of fame?" The answer is yes. Strike one for you. Then you will say " no, Pedro sucks". Strike 2. Then, "but he is no Nolan Ryan" Strike 3, because not all the pitchers in the hall or to be inducted are Nolan Ryan.
@ff621 lastly, go to baseball reference, wikipedia, or any MLB related site, and check out Pedro's stats and accomplishments. then head to the forums where real sports fans debate someone's eligibility. the answer everywhere will disappoint you. you will realize that you have shitted in your face by saying something really retarded.
@ff621 So you can't even get the name of your country right on your you tube profile, let alone debate baseball. or you just outright lie because you are ashamed of where you are from and your turd personality.
@ff621 Do yourself a favor, and stop embarrassing yourself like this. You are now at a point where you have no valid point to make, and now you are resorting to pointless nonsense that has got nothing to do with baseball, and its taking you nowhere but bringing you back to Marichal and Ryan. It seems to me like you were reading baseball history one night, and the needle got stuck on one or two names, and you can't move on.
by the way, you never told me why you lied about your country.
@ff621 for a guy who nitpicks on little technical details and longs for political correctness, you should know that no one pitches from the heart. Last time I checked, pitchers use hands and brain to pitch. I wonder how that got past a no-lifer such like you.
Let me tell you the last thing before you go hiding in your basement...Pedro is a Hall of Famer, and you are an idiot.
Say my hello to everyone on Virgin Islands...err....wherever the fuck you are from.
@imranite Pedro was lucky he pitched in the Era that he pitched were the managers protect the Starting pitchers. Ryan pitched 72 CG in three years combined. Pedro Got 46 in his entire career. Ryan had 5 years with +300 K 2 of those years were+350 K. Pedro only had 2 years with +300 K . Pedro was lucky he played with good teams most of his career. Ryan played with the worst and still managed to get 7 No-No.
@ff621 Pedro actually pitched in the steroid era which makes his hof caliber stats even more impressive. look at his winning % and his era before making stupid comments like " pedro sucks". the guy is no Ryan but not all great pitchers are Nolan Ryan.
@imranite what bother me about Pedro is that he was always looking for excuses for his poor performances, if it wasn't his cleats, it was a colf/flu or his shoulder it was always something. if he got hit 3-4 runs by the second inning he was pulled out right away. why not let him try to clean his own mess?? that's how they used to do it in the old days.
@ff621 All those things don't take anything away from what Pedro has accomplished. Whatever bothers you, or how different he is from the old timers, is irrelevant to people who will eventually vote him into the hall of fame. Yep, the people who actually know baseball.
@ff621 If you knew anything about baseball, you would know that teams don't like to take chances with pitchers who are past their prime, in the twilight of their career, with a history of injury. athletes don't play forever, and their dominance is in the prime of their career, for most of them. If that is your reason to state that Pedro sucks, then it is a very idiotic one.
@ff621 Yes, they did, as it is well document. You know what else is well documented? Pedro's stats and accomplishments. First of all, no one is comparing Pedro to Nolan or Marichal here, but you. Your comparisons are as stupid and pointless as comparing Jason Kidd to Magic Johnson. Both are among the greatest point guards of all time but Kidd isn't as great as Magic. However, this doesn't take anything away from Kidd. Does this help? You sound like you could use some help.
@ff621 Just do yourself a favor. Don't say that Pedro sucks to anyone else who knows about baseball. Save yourself from being called an idiot who doesn't know anything about baseball. Learn how to analyze a pitcher without comparing him to Nolan Ryans of the world. Don't be an idiot.
@ff621 wow that exactly proves my point that you are nothing but a clueless idiot who does not know anything about baseball at all. Shove your stupid, childish comparisons up your candy ass, and don't forget to visit Cooperstown in 5 years, where you will see Pedro's name. In the mean time, grow the fuck up.
@ff621 thanks for that useless piece of information, but Pedro is a hall of famer, and you can either sit there and bitch about it, or you can actually learn something about baseball.
@ff621 @ imranite, this guy is a fucking troll, isnt that obvious to you? even the biggest retard in the world who knows a little baseball knows how dominant Pedro is, so dont listen to this fucking moron. look at his profile for fuck sake. the guy is a retard. i fucking hate pedro, but he has my and real baseball peoples respect, so who gives a flying fuck what this dick face says about pedro on you tube? ignore this dumb cock sucker.
@iakny Pedro is so Dominant that he is not even a 300 game winner. he is so dominat that he never pitched a no-hitter, he is so dominant that he avg a 1 shutout a year, WOW!!! How dominant he was. Pedro's arm wasn't good enough to pitch more than 240 Innings, fucking guy was babied his entired career. Pedro pitched 46 CG in 18 years Ryan pitched 72 CG in 3 years.
@ff621 Sports Illustrated's Joe Posnanski wrote, "There has never been a pitcher in baseball history — not Walter Johnson, not Lefty Grove, not Sandy Koufax, not Tom Seaver, not Roger Clemens — who was more overwhelming than the young Pedro."[2]
@ff621 you have just confirmed that you are a toddler. your analogy is as stupid as you are. doctors are not doctors till they graduate because when they are studying, they aren't professional yet. on the other hand, when we say that this athlete is a hall of famer, we use his entire body of work and how he has met the criteria to get elected in the hall of fame when eligible. Go outside your basement and ask anyone who knows baseball. they will confirm that Pedro is a lock to be elected.
@ff621 Have you ever thought of the possibilities of Pedro's name to come out in the Mitchell's report?? what would be the consequences if that ever happened will he get in the HOF?
@iakny Nope, because he is not in the hall of fame yet, but if you knew anything about sports, you would know sports lingo as well. When sports is discussed among real sports fans, the question always arises, " is he a hall of famer". then his body of work is discusses, and if he meets the criteria, the critics say, "yes, he is a hall of famer". is this statement politically correct? no. is it true? yes. Pedro is a hall of famer, but to make it clear to idiots like you, Pedro will be a HOFer.
@iakny I don't give a shit about Tim Duncan i'm not from the virgins island i'm dominican and i happen to live a few block away from Pedro Martinez's house.
@iakny See you don't know the whole Pedro story, Pedro was the Pitcher that refuse to pitch for his country, pedro never participated in the winter leagues in DR and never pitched the classic til last year. the only reason he did it was because he need it a contract and because he was going to face Holland. if he was to face Venezuela or PR he wouldn't have pitched.
@iakny here in DR Marichal is the man he pitched with heart. every game was battle for him he pitched the whole game wether he was winning or not. Pedro pitched with no heart if he was loosing in the begining of the game he wanted out and looked for an excuse gey out of the game right away.
@iakny yes one last one Pedro is not a HOF til he gets in and watch how they will bring out the dirty laundry from the Mitchell's report in another 2-3 years to screw things up for him like they did with Sosa.
@ff621 hes like 5 foot fucking 5. (I know he's listed at 5'11) theres no way he took steroids hes always been the same size, I know hes blown out his arm, but thats from rotartor cuff
@imranite If Pedro is so good I wonder why the phillies were the only team last year to offer him a contract and didn't even bother to resign him for this year.
@imranite if you Avg Pedro against Ryan and Marichal. they both put better numbers than Pedro avg 4 CG with an ERA of 2.93 with 1 SHO with 242 K when Ryan had 10 CG with an ERA of 3.19 with 3SHO and 245 K and Marichal Avg of 18 CG with an Avg of 2.89 with 4 SHO with 169 K. Ryan Pitched in the steroid Era too.
man wrigley is a great ball park
ConcepcionPR 2 weeks ago
he is a expos for ever
chepelatino 2 months ago
@bumblebee051985 Sorry, I'm gonna have to take Maddux over Pedro.
SimpleStuff31 6 months ago
@SimpleStuff31 Over his career, I would too, but if we're talking about best peak performance, no one matches Pedro.
LanceDirk 2 weeks ago
I FUCKING HATE SEEING PEDRO IN A FUCKING PHILLIES UNIFORM.
KarAniel1990 8 months ago 2
@KarAniel1990 i loved it!
BensHerps 8 months ago
@KarAniel1990 Mets fan?
player93ify 1 week ago
he did great in the World Series. He crowned the MVP lol
IWantDaveKast 11 months ago
@IWantDaveKast Thta's right he did LOL
ff621 11 months ago
pedro was the only pitcher in red sox history 2 be able 2 throw the ball from home plate 2 the bullpen
hardwick21 1 year ago
hey ff621. to compare Pedro Martinez to Nolan Ryan or Juan Marichal or Nolan Ryan is downright idiotic. For one, they pitched in different eras. when Pedro started to pitch the idea of the bullpen wasnt quite fully developed yet but was by the time he reached his prime. another thing to consider is the things that Pedro could do at his size (5"11' 180 pounds) were just ridiculous and he was a workhorse by the standards of any team in his prime. one more thing, if Koufax made the hall, Petey will
dtibbss 1 year ago
Pedro is Lucky Bastard
ff621 1 year ago
Pedro Sucks big time
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 You don't know much about Martinez, do you?
imranite 1 year ago
@imranite When Pedro pitch like Old Timers like Marichal,Koufax,Ryan.the he''ll be okin my books other than that he is a regular joe.
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 So you don't know much about regular Joe either. Your books are irrelevant, and Martinez is no Marichal, Koufax or Ryan, but he is one of the best pitchers of our lifetime. I am a Yankee fan and that guy has my respect. You need to learn a lot.
iakny 1 year ago
@iakny yeah you are right I don't know $hit about baseballand apologize for being such an uninformed moron, I was wondering when was Pedro Inducted into the Hall of Fame? according to you he is a hall of famer already. doctors are not doctors til they graduate and get their titles. : )
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 so now that we have gotten political and tense correctness out of our way, the only thing your tiny little self has left to unsuccessfully argue is " will Pedro make the hall of fame?" The answer is yes. Strike one for you. Then you will say " no, Pedro sucks". Strike 2. Then, "but he is no Nolan Ryan" Strike 3, because not all the pitchers in the hall or to be inducted are Nolan Ryan.
iakny 1 year ago
@ff621 lastly, go to baseball reference, wikipedia, or any MLB related site, and check out Pedro's stats and accomplishments. then head to the forums where real sports fans debate someone's eligibility. the answer everywhere will disappoint you. you will realize that you have shitted in your face by saying something really retarded.
iakny 1 year ago
@ff621 So you can't even get the name of your country right on your you tube profile, let alone debate baseball. or you just outright lie because you are ashamed of where you are from and your turd personality.
you lose again.
iakny 1 year ago
@ff621 Do yourself a favor, and stop embarrassing yourself like this. You are now at a point where you have no valid point to make, and now you are resorting to pointless nonsense that has got nothing to do with baseball, and its taking you nowhere but bringing you back to Marichal and Ryan. It seems to me like you were reading baseball history one night, and the needle got stuck on one or two names, and you can't move on.
by the way, you never told me why you lied about your country.
iakny 1 year ago
@ff621 blah blah blah blapati blapati blah...that is all I am hearing from you...got any valid point to make, you silly child?
iakny 1 year ago
@ff621 for a guy who nitpicks on little technical details and longs for political correctness, you should know that no one pitches from the heart. Last time I checked, pitchers use hands and brain to pitch. I wonder how that got past a no-lifer such like you.
Let me tell you the last thing before you go hiding in your basement...Pedro is a Hall of Famer, and you are an idiot.
Say my hello to everyone on Virgin Islands...err....wherever the fuck you are from.
iakny 1 year ago
@ff621 Its OK to admit that you are misinformed. Your comments prove it.
imranite 1 year ago
@imranite Pedro was lucky he pitched in the Era that he pitched were the managers protect the Starting pitchers. Ryan pitched 72 CG in three years combined. Pedro Got 46 in his entire career. Ryan had 5 years with +300 K 2 of those years were+350 K. Pedro only had 2 years with +300 K . Pedro was lucky he played with good teams most of his career. Ryan played with the worst and still managed to get 7 No-No.
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 Pedro actually pitched in the steroid era which makes his hof caliber stats even more impressive. look at his winning % and his era before making stupid comments like " pedro sucks". the guy is no Ryan but not all great pitchers are Nolan Ryan.
imranite 1 year ago
@imranite what bother me about Pedro is that he was always looking for excuses for his poor performances, if it wasn't his cleats, it was a colf/flu or his shoulder it was always something. if he got hit 3-4 runs by the second inning he was pulled out right away. why not let him try to clean his own mess?? that's how they used to do it in the old days.
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 All those things don't take anything away from what Pedro has accomplished. Whatever bothers you, or how different he is from the old timers, is irrelevant to people who will eventually vote him into the hall of fame. Yep, the people who actually know baseball.
imranite 1 year ago
@ff621 If you knew anything about baseball, you would know that teams don't like to take chances with pitchers who are past their prime, in the twilight of their career, with a history of injury. athletes don't play forever, and their dominance is in the prime of their career, for most of them. If that is your reason to state that Pedro sucks, then it is a very idiotic one.
imranite 1 year ago
@ff621 Yes, they did, as it is well document. You know what else is well documented? Pedro's stats and accomplishments. First of all, no one is comparing Pedro to Nolan or Marichal here, but you. Your comparisons are as stupid and pointless as comparing Jason Kidd to Magic Johnson. Both are among the greatest point guards of all time but Kidd isn't as great as Magic. However, this doesn't take anything away from Kidd. Does this help? You sound like you could use some help.
imranite 1 year ago
@ff621 Just do yourself a favor. Don't say that Pedro sucks to anyone else who knows about baseball. Save yourself from being called an idiot who doesn't know anything about baseball. Learn how to analyze a pitcher without comparing him to Nolan Ryans of the world. Don't be an idiot.
imranite 1 year ago
@ff621 wow that exactly proves my point that you are nothing but a clueless idiot who does not know anything about baseball at all. Shove your stupid, childish comparisons up your candy ass, and don't forget to visit Cooperstown in 5 years, where you will see Pedro's name. In the mean time, grow the fuck up.
imranite 1 year ago
@ff621 thanks for that useless piece of information, but Pedro is a hall of famer, and you can either sit there and bitch about it, or you can actually learn something about baseball.
imranite 1 year ago
@ff621 @ imranite, this guy is a fucking troll, isnt that obvious to you? even the biggest retard in the world who knows a little baseball knows how dominant Pedro is, so dont listen to this fucking moron. look at his profile for fuck sake. the guy is a retard. i fucking hate pedro, but he has my and real baseball peoples respect, so who gives a flying fuck what this dick face says about pedro on you tube? ignore this dumb cock sucker.
iakny 1 year ago
@iakny Pedro is so Dominant that he is not even a 300 game winner. he is so dominat that he never pitched a no-hitter, he is so dominant that he avg a 1 shutout a year, WOW!!! How dominant he was. Pedro's arm wasn't good enough to pitch more than 240 Innings, fucking guy was babied his entired career. Pedro pitched 46 CG in 18 years Ryan pitched 72 CG in 3 years.
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 Sports Illustrated's Joe Posnanski wrote, "There has never been a pitcher in baseball history — not Walter Johnson, not Lefty Grove, not Sandy Koufax, not Tom Seaver, not Roger Clemens — who was more overwhelming than the young Pedro."[2]
tng150 11 months ago 6
@ff621 Pedro Martinez is a Hall of Famer, and you can suck my cock because you are a stupid piece of shit who doesn't know jack shit about baseball.
iakny 1 year ago
@ff621 you have just confirmed that you are a toddler. your analogy is as stupid as you are. doctors are not doctors till they graduate because when they are studying, they aren't professional yet. on the other hand, when we say that this athlete is a hall of famer, we use his entire body of work and how he has met the criteria to get elected in the hall of fame when eligible. Go outside your basement and ask anyone who knows baseball. they will confirm that Pedro is a lock to be elected.
iakny 1 year ago
@iakny I Pedro Martinez's name in Cooperstown NY as we speak ?? yes or no??
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 Have you ever thought of the possibilities of Pedro's name to come out in the Mitchell's report?? what would be the consequences if that ever happened will he get in the HOF?
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 he never took steroids
tng150 11 months ago
@iakny Nope, because he is not in the hall of fame yet, but if you knew anything about sports, you would know sports lingo as well. When sports is discussed among real sports fans, the question always arises, " is he a hall of famer". then his body of work is discusses, and if he meets the criteria, the critics say, "yes, he is a hall of famer". is this statement politically correct? no. is it true? yes. Pedro is a hall of famer, but to make it clear to idiots like you, Pedro will be a HOFer.
iakny 1 year ago
@iakny I don't give a shit about Tim Duncan i'm not from the virgins island i'm dominican and i happen to live a few block away from Pedro Martinez's house.
ff621 1 year ago
@iakny See you don't know the whole Pedro story, Pedro was the Pitcher that refuse to pitch for his country, pedro never participated in the winter leagues in DR and never pitched the classic til last year. the only reason he did it was because he need it a contract and because he was going to face Holland. if he was to face Venezuela or PR he wouldn't have pitched.
ff621 1 year ago
@iakny here in DR Marichal is the man he pitched with heart. every game was battle for him he pitched the whole game wether he was winning or not. Pedro pitched with no heart if he was loosing in the begining of the game he wanted out and looked for an excuse gey out of the game right away.
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 your an idiot PEDRO is automatic HOF
NSCCASNSC 11 months ago
@ff621 marichal almost killed a guy with a bat, he has no heart
tng150 11 months ago
@iakny yes one last one Pedro is not a HOF til he gets in and watch how they will bring out the dirty laundry from the Mitchell's report in another 2-3 years to screw things up for him like they did with Sosa.
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 hes like 5 foot fucking 5. (I know he's listed at 5'11) theres no way he took steroids hes always been the same size, I know hes blown out his arm, but thats from rotartor cuff
tng150 11 months ago
@tng150 um, you do know steroids don't make you grow, right?.....
papapapenis 6 months ago
@papapapenis they make you bulkier
tng150 6 months ago
@iakny OK will do : ) give my regards to the stinking Mets.
ff621 1 year ago
@iakny lol you are clueless. I am a Yankee fan.
iakny 1 year ago
@ff621 I really hope that Tim Duncan isn't reading your crap because he would be ashamed of an idiot Virgin Islander.
iakny 1 year ago
@imranite If Pedro is so good I wonder why the phillies were the only team last year to offer him a contract and didn't even bother to resign him for this year.
ff621 1 year ago
@imranite if you Avg Pedro against Ryan and Marichal. they both put better numbers than Pedro avg 4 CG with an ERA of 2.93 with 1 SHO with 242 K when Ryan had 10 CG with an ERA of 3.19 with 3SHO and 245 K and Marichal Avg of 18 CG with an Avg of 2.89 with 4 SHO with 169 K. Ryan Pitched in the steroid Era too.
ff621 1 year ago
@imranite you and every other Pedro fan can kiss my ass
ff621 1 year ago
@imranite You know damn well that if Pedro would've pitched for 27 years like Ryan did , Pedro's Avg ERA would've been much higher than Ryans 3.19.
ff621 1 year ago
@ff621 LMAO what are you a fucking 5 year old? how much does Ryan pay you to be his cocksucking bitch?
iakny 1 year ago
idk i think there bull pen is to close to home plate
TheSprueTube 2 years ago