Empfindung, the 7th sense*, allows one to perceive the future directly due to its being a potential receptacle for electromagnetic-energetically-carried information travelling faster than the speed of light in a 3-dimensional vacuum. Human beings feel such things as "Ahnungen" when the feelings are perturbed by Empfindung from future states of consciousness. * Feelings are the 6th sense.
Not that time is deterministic and linear, but rather, that time is in a sense spatial and contains 'nodes' of absolutely certain events in the future along with other events which may or may not occur depending upon free will (something caused when thought of any kind arises out of spiritual energy, in effect causing itself with respect to material influences)--all of this with respect to the now of human perception and being, which of course varies for every spatial and temporal state possible
Experiencing the effect of something is one thing, interpreting its cause is another, we reason within the framework of our intelligence and imagination. If you stand in front of an ant he may experience the effect of your presence, like you blocking out the sun for him may cause him to experience the change of temperature or your footsteps could make him experience tremors (phenomenon) but the ant cannot conceptualize you as a human(noumenon) or the reasons of your actions in this universe.
Your argument contains some truth, yet ultimately implies a self-contradictory dichotomy between mind and 'objective reality' or somesuch. The general boundary which contains both material and mental reality is the boundary of spiritual reality (Geist), and one can logically know the degree of isomorphism of a theory in Verstand to the boundary of being in experiential reality (die Grenze der Form), since this by its very nature is the projection of internal consciousness into perception.
The dual-split (wave-particle) experiment shows that perception is subject to logic as much as logic is subject to perception. What's first, the chicken or the egg? If our scientific paradigm adopted premises that lead to inferential paradoxes like 'big bang theories' we can rest assure that logic is a form of belief and not necessary consistent. Hypnosis (neuroscience) shows that logic has no role what-so-ever in human experience and perception, the brain has a tendency to confabulate theories
You should know full well that the idea that logic has nothing to do with human experience completely contradicts the notion that hyponosis could ever extract information of any value; namely, the subconscious mind must operate totally logically in order to obtain this exacting memory of perceptual data, uncoloured by egoistical fabrications. Logic and perception are part of the same whole of form and being which naturally shows itself in all facets of Creation.
Logical syntax of Logos or form/boundary of being is a direct consequence of the fact that reality is always perceived, in effect, by itself, and thereout forms itself within boundaries dictated by those perceptions, while the perceptions are subject to a phenomenal reality manifest within the hierarchical logic of universal creative-natural law. At the highest level, it is all one timeless, self-closing loop. To speak of chickens and eggs is just a false analogy.
Circular reasoning is always necessary at the level of self-sustaining, self-closing form; as many a mathematician knows. The circular ouroboros of Creation is not subject to the restriction of external form, since the Universe is both its internal and external body.
Furthermore, logic is the basis of knowledge--the criterion being that that which is known is that with consecutive logic when cognizized. That which is believed, however, need only be accepted arbitrarily into one's image of reality--it can thus just as well be complte "Wahnsinn" without any capacity for non-destructive logical examination, regardless of the particular metaphorical, verstandesmaessige framework used to isomorphise the consecutive structure of the belief.
The study of the universe has become the study of human cognition. There are no physical laws that rule the dreamworld of sleep, there experience and perception is framed by mere imagination. Logic is made up of axioms, hypothesis, theories, inferences and premises that are all compatible with a certain paradigm which allows us to experience an ordered world. What we experience as real are the impressions that are communicable to other observers, i.e. the ones that we collectively believe in.
Unless you embrace faith you will always head into the future looking into the rear mirror. Reason developes from past experience and therefore only serves to analyse past events, if we use reason to make logic assertions about the future we are using deductive-logic which is speculative by mere definition because we can never be sure that we are considering all the parameters that influence the outcome of events.
I always liked McKenna's Attractor at the End of Time idea. I have a blog/essay on it, "'X' Marks the Plot," that I want to adapt into a video, We see echoes of the strange attractor in pop culture... in consumer goods, car commercials.
wonder if there was a dinasour running around and screaming: "Man, we are too big! Think of the future! Think if an asteroid hits us, what then? Damn those pesky mammals!" ;)
The attractor does lie in the future in every 4 dimensional sense of the word. Understanding the past can help, but ultimately to see what lies ahead one must look into the future and how the present impacts it. Learning from historical mistakes is important, but the mistakes we make in the present will impact the planet in the future more so than what occurred in the past. The past is done and there is nothing we can do about it at this point.
i really like how this guy thinks.
he makes very good points.
SONofEIRE1987 2 years ago
who's eric yonch?
LothairApoclyane 2 years ago
Eric Janch, a system's theorist.
0ThouArtThat0 2 years ago
Erich Jantsch
schpew 2 years ago
Peace!
Honker66 3 years ago
Empfindung, the 7th sense*, allows one to perceive the future directly due to its being a potential receptacle for electromagnetic-energetically-carried information travelling faster than the speed of light in a 3-dimensional vacuum. Human beings feel such things as "Ahnungen" when the feelings are perturbed by Empfindung from future states of consciousness. * Feelings are the 6th sense.
elgaed42 3 years ago
Not that time is deterministic and linear, but rather, that time is in a sense spatial and contains 'nodes' of absolutely certain events in the future along with other events which may or may not occur depending upon free will (something caused when thought of any kind arises out of spiritual energy, in effect causing itself with respect to material influences)--all of this with respect to the now of human perception and being, which of course varies for every spatial and temporal state possible
elgaed42 3 years ago
Experiencing the effect of something is one thing, interpreting its cause is another, we reason within the framework of our intelligence and imagination. If you stand in front of an ant he may experience the effect of your presence, like you blocking out the sun for him may cause him to experience the change of temperature or your footsteps could make him experience tremors (phenomenon) but the ant cannot conceptualize you as a human(noumenon) or the reasons of your actions in this universe.
August1977 3 years ago
Your argument contains some truth, yet ultimately implies a self-contradictory dichotomy between mind and 'objective reality' or somesuch. The general boundary which contains both material and mental reality is the boundary of spiritual reality (Geist), and one can logically know the degree of isomorphism of a theory in Verstand to the boundary of being in experiential reality (die Grenze der Form), since this by its very nature is the projection of internal consciousness into perception.
elgaed42 3 years ago
The dual-split (wave-particle) experiment shows that perception is subject to logic as much as logic is subject to perception. What's first, the chicken or the egg? If our scientific paradigm adopted premises that lead to inferential paradoxes like 'big bang theories' we can rest assure that logic is a form of belief and not necessary consistent. Hypnosis (neuroscience) shows that logic has no role what-so-ever in human experience and perception, the brain has a tendency to confabulate theories
August1977 3 years ago
You should know full well that the idea that logic has nothing to do with human experience completely contradicts the notion that hyponosis could ever extract information of any value; namely, the subconscious mind must operate totally logically in order to obtain this exacting memory of perceptual data, uncoloured by egoistical fabrications. Logic and perception are part of the same whole of form and being which naturally shows itself in all facets of Creation.
elgaed42 3 years ago
Logical syntax of Logos or form/boundary of being is a direct consequence of the fact that reality is always perceived, in effect, by itself, and thereout forms itself within boundaries dictated by those perceptions, while the perceptions are subject to a phenomenal reality manifest within the hierarchical logic of universal creative-natural law. At the highest level, it is all one timeless, self-closing loop. To speak of chickens and eggs is just a false analogy.
elgaed42 3 years ago
Circular reasoning is always necessary at the level of self-sustaining, self-closing form; as many a mathematician knows. The circular ouroboros of Creation is not subject to the restriction of external form, since the Universe is both its internal and external body.
elgaed42 3 years ago
Furthermore, logic is the basis of knowledge--the criterion being that that which is known is that with consecutive logic when cognizized. That which is believed, however, need only be accepted arbitrarily into one's image of reality--it can thus just as well be complte "Wahnsinn" without any capacity for non-destructive logical examination, regardless of the particular metaphorical, verstandesmaessige framework used to isomorphise the consecutive structure of the belief.
elgaed42 3 years ago
The study of the universe has become the study of human cognition. There are no physical laws that rule the dreamworld of sleep, there experience and perception is framed by mere imagination. Logic is made up of axioms, hypothesis, theories, inferences and premises that are all compatible with a certain paradigm which allows us to experience an ordered world. What we experience as real are the impressions that are communicable to other observers, i.e. the ones that we collectively believe in.
August1977 3 years ago
The attractor at the end of time = The Creation = die Schoepfung.
elgaed42 3 years ago
Unless you embrace faith you will always head into the future looking into the rear mirror. Reason developes from past experience and therefore only serves to analyse past events, if we use reason to make logic assertions about the future we are using deductive-logic which is speculative by mere definition because we can never be sure that we are considering all the parameters that influence the outcome of events.
August1977 3 years ago
Faith is useless. Insight, however, Empfindung, spirit, foresight--these are useful.
elgaed42 3 years ago
FEEL IT HAPPENING...
teamhumanity 3 years ago
Another awesome excerpt. Keep posting, we're listening! =) 5*
thedarkener 3 years ago
I always liked McKenna's Attractor at the End of Time idea. I have a blog/essay on it, "'X' Marks the Plot," that I want to adapt into a video, We see echoes of the strange attractor in pop culture... in consumer goods, car commercials.
StevenErnest 3 years ago
wonder if there was a dinasour running around and screaming: "Man, we are too big! Think of the future! Think if an asteroid hits us, what then? Damn those pesky mammals!" ;)
jogayot 3 years ago
The attractor does lie in the future in every 4 dimensional sense of the word. Understanding the past can help, but ultimately to see what lies ahead one must look into the future and how the present impacts it. Learning from historical mistakes is important, but the mistakes we make in the present will impact the planet in the future more so than what occurred in the past. The past is done and there is nothing we can do about it at this point.
silverbackman 3 years ago
"in the grip of an attractor that lies ahead of us in time"
That's a great line. Almost seemed to describe the Earth's place in the universe in a nutshell.
Thanks for sharing this.
HaleyMary 3 years ago
*Looks backwards in the mirror for the answer*
Doh, Its nOw!
cosmanthony21 3 years ago
LOL
MaBu888 3 years ago
you like to twist the knife, don't you?
who knew?
lol
bipolarcooksoldlady 3 years ago
Something is revealed to us, through us. That's a great line.
jonesr999 3 years ago
Terence McKenna FTW!!
ParadigmShift22 3 years ago